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Old 08-13-2013, 04:12 PM   #31
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:31 PM   #32
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I like Batman and usually I am very happy to see new ideas but this one is not one of them.

Studios are trying new ways to bring peoples to watch there show but this is for me is one of the lowest batman I have seen.

This one might amuse younger crowd.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:50 PM   #33
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I just watched those clips with no sound.
I've seen better animation from students.
I'm no animator by any means, but it reminds me of the Clone Wars animated movie that came out with all that stiff running and extreme closeups as to not show the flaws.

Comp in some Z passes too, Depth of Field for the win! Which this lacks.

I'm really hating on this show.
 
Old 08-13-2013, 04:56 PM   #34
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I think the animation isnt too bad. The action motion is pretty good. Just the look feels weird. The stylization looks good but it looks like everything was kept to a real minimum and low budget. The suit on the big bad guy hasn't got chamfering on the sharp edges.
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Old 08-13-2013, 06:49 PM   #35
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Eh, the clips don't look as bad as I originally thought. May check it out if I'm awake that early on a Saturday morning.
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:37 AM   #36
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Looks, moves, and feels like one of those Barbie shows.

Which is to say... it doesn't feel like Batman.....It feels like..... Barbie... in black.

I mean.. I think I'd love Barbie in Black.... but this isn't Barbie the woman in black.. It's Barbie the SHOW.... in black.....
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Looks, moves, and feels like one of those Barbie shows.

Which is to say... it doesn't feel like Batman.....It feels like..... Barbie... in black.

I mean.. I think I'd love Barbie in Black.... but this isn't Barbie the woman in black.. It's Barbie the SHOW.... in black.....


Wow, I think you nailed it.

I just hate it when I see a character run and their head is perfectly centered with no movement to it while the body rotates back and forth. Looks like garbage.
 
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Well guys, you go to consider the high volumeof content they have to produce.
Add to that a low budget.
I would harly call it "garbage" considering the talent involved, and the contraints they have to deal with.
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I wouldn't call it garbage, for a Saturday morning cartoon its right at the right level.
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It must be a ridiculously low budget because the texture mapping (did I see procedural noise maps on the walls?) and lighting is well eye opening. Not sure if I could actually watch this or not. lol Don't get me wrong, I'm always for more comic related visuals and stories. I just figured with the names Cartoon Network and Batman behind it, they would have received a little more budget friendly TLC.
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I've worked saturday morning, I know the constraints and I know how things like this can happen even with very skilled people doing the work..so, nothing against any of them, but I just can't like this, or give it a free pass. As you said, the IP and companies involved, why should it be anything less than great, or at least good?

Maybe because I have worked with editorial and camera so much or studied a lot of movies, but it's like every cut is held a second longer than it needs to be, and for every dynamic camera angle there's another that is completely bland. It makes it feel like huge pauses in the action and flow. I'm not talking about moments where there is a dramatic pause either, I'm talking about in the middle of a fight. It's like the choreography is potentially there, but it's just not adding up. That AND the sparsely done backgrounds and characters and it just comes out to dull, dull, dull. At least for me.

Maybe kids are more forgiving, I know a lot of the "action packed" stuff I remembered as a kid is outright awful, but a lot of modern kids have been spoiled by animation that does pay attention to all of those things and looks and moves and flows much better as a result.
 
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Well guys, you go to consider the high volumeof content they have to produce.
Add to that a low budget.
I would harly call it "garbage" considering the talent involved, and the contraints they have to deal with.

Either this show should not have been done in 3D or they needed stronger direction to make the best use of what little resources they had. I would say that ReBoot showed more ambition given the higher technical restraints and that was 16 years ago. Which brings up the question: Why was this show done in 3D? Because it complimented the style of the show? I don't believe so.

They could have taken a page from the original Batman The Animated Series from the 90's. Simple dark deco silhouettes, dramatic lighting, gradients everywhere, sparing use of well done animation and that ominous red sky. All of which would have been possible. Instead you get what amounts to a pile of poor decisions.
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One of the most jarring things about the show is that every shot of Gotham seems to be wide and shows a city completely devoid of life.

The streets are empty. No people, no cars, no trash, no birds, nothing but flat buildings.

It's like a scene from Vanilla Sky.
 
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I wouldn't call it garbage, for a Saturday morning cartoon its right at the right level.


Unfortunately the "Right Level" is a moving target... Today this is "at the right level"


Blame ILM Singapore and the many Indian, Chinese, Filipino, etc. artists who put it there.

To wit, the budget on Clone Wars isn't high... obviously I don't know for sure if the budget for this and the Batman show are comparable, and even if they were.... I do know that after Season 3, the Clone Wars started getting Technical Directors from the feature film group, so it would be valid to argue that even with low $$$ budget the point would be the Clone Wars show was tapping into "High $$$ Experience".

Right.

Just saying.. .from a Consumer standpoint? That is the "right level". The audience doesn't care what circumstances the artists are in... and you cannot print your budget into the titles or End-Credits anyway to make the audience understand what limits you had.
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:33 PM   #45
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