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  07 July 2013
Audacity for Audio Editing

Periodically I edit a podcast. For the last episode I used open source Audacity rather than Adobe Audition. Worked great. For some very fundamental functions, Audacity has a better UI. There was only one feature that could've been improved for my workflow, and when I posted about it on their forum, they actually responded and discussed it.
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  07 July 2013
Things that need to be covered.

For my workflow, one of the most challenging things to replace is the use of vector graphic. Between PShop, Illustrator, and AE, the ability to exchange vector objects, especially via the clipboard is very useful (though could be much better). Also, Maya will import Illustrator vectors. Anyone have experience with alternative vector app for use with alternative Paint and Composite?

Also, compositing has the most complex requirements. From expressions, vectors, plugins, matting, color correction etc. - we need a lot of capability. Thinking out loud, I'm wondering if we should create a list of functions that we need in compositing and list which software has those functions.

Also thinking out loud, I wonder if a plugin standard could be developed, so all the cool plugins could theoretically be used by any app developer who wanted to include them - a big win for all the independent developers!
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  07 July 2013
Well, for a 2D plug-in standard, we have OFX and it's supported by quite a few compositing and video apps.

http://openfx.sourceforge.net/
 
  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by RobertoOrtiz: This might be interest for those looking for a Photoshop alternative
http://www.madewithmischief.com/


Wow, what a great find. Never heard of it before.
Great feel for sketching and infinite resolution.
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  07 July 2013
Flash Alternative

Found an interesting Flash alternative, Amethyst 2, that integrates with Visual Studio (including a free VS Shell version).

While you can use the Flash IDE, you can also work in AS3 in Amethyst's VS design and scripting/coding interface, including toolbox components. Import/convert from Flash CS.x. Export to Flash or AIR (latter includes Windows, Android, IOS: cross-platform deployment) via Flex SDK/AIR SDK.

http://www.sapphiresteel.com/Amethyst-Product-Page

HTH

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  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by BradT: Well, for a 2D plug-in standard, we have OFX and it's supported by quite a few compositing and video apps.

http://openfx.sourceforge.net/
That is excellent! I will certainly be encouraging my favorite plugin developers to consider this. It's great to see that Re:vision is participating. It'd be great to see Red Giant, Trapcode, and Video Copilot to be onboard. I have used AE since it was in beta in the early 90's, so I have a ton of time invested in using it. The question remains which compositing app to try next...
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  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by Pixero: Wow, what a great find. Never heard of it before.
Great feel for sketching and infinite resolution.


I second the motion!
 
  07 July 2013
I reformatted Roberto's list and put it in the original post. I will go through this thread and add any other programs. Feel free to PM me w/changes and additions.
Thanks.
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  07 July 2013
I know this is a thread about alternatives (and an excellent one at that) but I thought I'd post my alternative:

We upgraded all our older versions to CS6, purchased the number of required licenses, and we'll be sticking with that indefinitely until a viable alternative comes along.

Adobe's CC is a forced, gun-to-the-head upgrade fueled by nothing more than greed and clearly customers don't appreciate that. We, for one, have lost any interest in Adobe from here on in.

It will be very interesting to see what happens in the industry now. They had a massive backlash (enough to reconsider 'tweaking' their 'plans') but unfortunately too many disgruntled artists still committed because they don't have an alternative: and Adobe knows this.

Now is the time for a competitor such as Nuke, for instance, to offer competitively priced options that post-Adobe clients would totally scramble to and jump on. I know we would.

Keep the alternatives flowing!

-Richard
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  07 July 2013
Richard, it is interesting to hear these views from someone as high profile as yourself that also makes plugins for the Adobe platform. Btw, I am big fan DOFPro!

Eightbit, I have some more alternatives to add to your ever increasing list.

Since you are listing audio editors, it would be amiss to leave out SoundForge and WaveLab. But if you want some other free or OS ones:

http://www.wavosaur.com/ ...far beyond what Audacity can do but Win only

http://www.ocenaudio.com.br/ ...cross platform and similar to audacity in its simplicity

Black Ink, is a Windows only painting app that has a procedural brush engine, GPU based and beautiful GUI:

http://www.bleank.com/BlackInk-a115.html

Flash/vector animation alternatives:

http://www.synfig.org/cms/ ...FOSS 2d animation software

http://nodebox.net/node/ ...Nodebox3... FOSS node based vector graphics...Amazing potential!

http://www.swishzone.com/index.php?...cts&product=max ...SwishMax4

Interactive Software:

http://vvvv.org/ ... free Windows node based software for installations and motion gfx

https://www.scirra.com/ ....Construct 2 ...html5 games engine, but you can make any 2d interactive project with it...using visual scripting, highly recommended
 
  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by EightBit: That is excellent! I will certainly be encouraging my favorite plugin developers to consider this. It's great to see that Re:vision is participating. It'd be great to see Red Giant, Trapcode, and Video Copilot to be onboard. I have used AE since it was in beta in the early 90's, so I have a ton of time invested in using it. The question remains which compositing app to try next...


if you're doing composition and not motion graphics, Nuke is far better than AE.
 
  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by Zendorf: http://www.wavosaur.com/ ...far beyond what Audacity can do but Win only
http://www.ocenaudio.com.br/ ...cross platform and similar to audacity in its simplicity
Note that neither of these is a multichannel editor like Audacity (They are for editing only 1 file at a time).
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  07 July 2013
Originally Posted by cgbeige: if you're doing composition and not motion graphics, Nuke is far better than AE.


If there wasnt such high price difference im sure it wouldnt be a 'hard' coice to switch to nuke
 
  08 August 2013
Serif MoviePlus

I recently used Serif MoviePlus to edit a video. Interface is very clean and efficient. Features are thoughtful. I didn't use the image processing functions, but they are plentiful.
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  08 August 2013
Originally Posted by CHRiTTeR: If there wasnt such high price difference im sure it wouldnt be a 'hard' coice to switch to nuke


The latest Fusion shouldn't be overlooked either and stands up against Nuke well and a little cheaper.

http://www.eyeonline.com/Fusion.html
 
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