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Old 05-13-2013, 02:27 AM   #16
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Not saying they are not entertaining but putting
pointy ears on some unknown actor and calling him Spock is akin to putting lipstick on a pig and calling it Rosie.


I'd hardly call him unknown, he was the main bad guy in Heroes and played a character similar to Spock in the lacking of emotions part and was utterly fascinating to watch.
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I'd hardly call him unknown, he was the main bad guy in Heroes and played a character similar to Spock in the lacking of emotions part and was utterly fascinating to watch.


Nice to hear from the one person who watched that dopey network tv show.
Odd that will all of their superpowers, they couldn't make that show not suck.

Thanks for proving my point. Now I consider him unknown AND insignificant.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 05:55 AM   #18
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Nice to hear from the one person who watched that dopey network tv show.
Odd that will all of their superpowers, they couldn't make that show not suck.

Thanks for proving my point. Now I consider him unknown AND insignificant.


It went downhilll after season 1 but that's no reflection on the guy's acting. Many of us were very happy to see him become Spock.
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Don't you love it when people who have not seen the film get angry and swear not to go see it? Your loss buddy, your loss.

Oh, and i didnt even notice the lens flares.


Don't blame me for your lack of vision.
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Don't blame me for your lack of vision.


What on earth are you on about mate?

Oh..wait, you used to write for Cinefex....nevermind
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For an excellent example of Quinto's acting, watch season 2 of American Horror Story. He is excellent in that.

Im bunking work on Friday to watch Into Darkness on Friday...woo!
 
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Actors of Shatner and Nimoy's generation had different training--much more theatrical work--also their voices were distinctive.
I dont know what happened to "character actors" but there arent nearly as many of them around as there used to be.
Its a charisma related issue.
Stick an actor with a lot of charm into a room with actors who are less interesting and he or she can steal the scene even if they have little or no dialogue.

Although there were some interesting things to the first Star Trek pilot I prefer the changes made for what became the final original series (although women authority characters were sacrificed).

The cg makeover is really good-I hardly notice the changes in the redone episodes I have watched.
 
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I dont know what happened to "character actors" but there arent nearly as many of them around as there used to be.

I feel the same way. Character actors seem to be too scarce in films nowadays.
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:32 AM   #24
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For an excellent example of Quinto's acting, watch season 2 of American Horror Story. He is excellent in that.

Im bunking work on Friday to watch Into Darkness on Friday...woo!


Thanks for that. Yeah, I reckon he's the kind of "unknown" that Harrison Ford was. A talent that nobody knew about until he was given the opportunity to shine.

There seems to be a lot more character development in the first film but I dont mind that this one was more of an action movie. I feel we'll see a lot more of the characters in the next one, now the franchise is romping along nicely.
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Pretty ho-hum exploshuns, pew-pew, with cool CG. A bunch of action sequences stitched together with very little character. Fun for an afternoon of wasting time but you could replace any of the characters with any other random sci-fi character and it wouldn't make any difference to how the movie turned out. You've got your comic relief, straight guy, rash guy, girl and 1 dimensional bad guy.
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It didnt really go anywhere with relationships either.

Its like they loaded it up with lots of content, but none of it has any substance.
 
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As one reviewer puts it,

"A bad cover of your favorite song."

"Abrams’ flashy movie, made for idiots, or at least an imaginary constituency of the same, a crowd who don’t expect and wouldn’t appreciate a flick that demanded any psychological investment from them, is an awkward confection; part post-9/11 morality tale (and you thought we were past all that), part broad comedy and part bleak revenge picture. The golden thread that runs through these disparate themes is that dusty old Hollywood cliché, the importance of family; though in a sign of the times, showing how far we’ve moved since the days we could infer the Enterprise crew were a space brood, it’s said openly here and often. Whoever Abrams imagines is paying to see this thing, he doesn’t think they’re fans of the internal monologue."

full review here


Folks who hold current, crap ass tv series as the gold standard for story content and acting will enjoy this movie.
 
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As a life long Star Trek fan, my expectations for this movie are rock bottom. I was so excited about Star Trek 2009, and came out of that just feeling "meh" and overall disappointed. Abrams' first Trek was ok, not bad, not great, but mostly been there done that.

I will go into Into Darkness mainly to watch an ILM reel of starships. If by some chance the movie exceeds my already low expectations, then I'll enjoy that too.
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Seems the only sci-fi we can get these days is either mindless, stupid action or overly complicated messes riddled with plot/logic holes.
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... overly complicated messes riddled with plot/logic holes.


Prometheus.
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