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Old 05 May 2013   #16
technically impressive

everything else, f@#king terrible

edit: a comment from the website "Oh Cool! Bambi with Dinosaurs!" lol..
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Old 05 May 2013   #17
Originally Posted by Clanger: Minor gripe No.2, it's 7 months away! How am I going to wait that long?


I know, they always seem to do that to us. Tease us and then leave us waiting half a lifetime before we can see the movie.
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Old 05 May 2013   #18
Originally Posted by squidinc: technically impressive

everything else, f@#king terrible

edit: a comment from the website "Oh Cool! Bambi with Dinosaurs!" lol..


Wow, harsh! There were some comments on the linked page that were much the same. Did I see the same trailer? I mean, do people think it's terrible because it anthropomorphizes the dinos too much? Or that it uses the WwD brand name and doesn't appear to be a straight-up documentary? And they keep mentioning the awful V.O. as if that will be throughout the film. It won't, will it?

And didn't Disney already make this movie (though technically speaking, this looks much better)? Wasn't the much maligned and delayed movie Dinosaur supposed to be a "real life" story about dinosaurs, then turned out to be more like Land Before Time?
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Old 05 May 2013   #19
Originally Posted by Artbot: I mean, do people think it's terrible because it anthropomorphizes the dinos too much? Or that it uses the WwD brand name and doesn't appear to be a straight-up documentary?


in a word, yes
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Old 05 May 2013   #20
Actually, Dinosaur had some pretty awesome stuff. Haven't seen it in a while but I'd say a lot of it can still stand up quite well. Visually, I mean.
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Old 05 May 2013   #21
I thought it was old shots from Disneys Dinosaur at first, which it looks like visually, which still by todays standards is pretty great, amazing what they did back then,


Is this from AL studios? I think it looks nice, even thought I would expect better comping from AL if its from them, the comp artists I worked with there on a live action feature with CG (who may be gone) were very talented, but the CG and live action feel very separated, with some shots looking fully cg (stylized) and others clearly back-plate with CG. Cool stuff anyhoo, must have kept a lot of folks working
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Old 05 May 2013   #22
Originally Posted by redbellpeppers: The 3D is enough to make me head out of town to the IMAX.

Did you have 3D in mind when doing this? Or was it an after thought? What kind of balance between what some call "gimmicky" (or what I call the fun into your lap) and just depth added to 2D did you strive for and achieve?

It was always conceived as a stereo show, and entirely shot in stereo on double Epics with a lot of attention put on the DOs and DONTs of it during the shoots. It's not a cardboard post stereo with tails and heads poking out of the frame every other shot

@Ray: it was all Animal Logic, Julien was the comp supe.
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Old 05 May 2013   #23
"One courageous survivor will grow to be the biggest hero"....hmmm I wonder if we'll see a Diplodocus make friends with a Stegosaurus and through their unwavering bond help each other cross the tarpits...I'd love that it would be so cute.

ummm.

Nice gfx though, well done for that.
 
Old 05 May 2013   #24
I think it looks entertaining, which is the most important. For cg, I think it looks good, and I think it's hard keeping it consistent and not boring as it's all basically, 3d characters. For compositing, It looks inconsistent at places, but why should it be? Wouldn't it be boring? And it's very difficult, as it's not something we can compare to real things.
 
Old 05 May 2013   #25
Dinosaurs are insanely interesting enough without having to have the naff marketed idea of heroes. It should in theory be impossible to make a boring film with this subject matter.
 
Old 05 May 2013   #26
Originally Posted by francomanko: Dinosaurs are insanely interesting enough without having to have the naff marketed idea of heroes. It should in theory be impossible to make a boring film with this subject matter.


Really? I always found them boring and overused. Every 3-rd cg-artist models them. Personally I can't stand them, and this movie looks at least something entertaining.
 
Old 05 May 2013   #27
I meant interesting as a subject matter, history science etc .
 
Old 05 May 2013   #28
Originally Posted by francomanko: I meant interesting as a subject matter, history science etc .

You mean making it like a documentary? Maybe. I still enjoy it's realistic, but funny.
 
Old 05 May 2013   #29
I love dinosaurs and I'm looking forward to seeing this with my (by then) 8 year old son, but there's something just a little strange about it. There are obviously dramatic stories of survival and struggle of animals to tell, but what's disconcerting is if they appear to have some kind of conscious goal. Animals generally seek only two things: food and passing on their genes. Sure, there are animals today with a sense of play (dogs, seals, birds, chimps, etc.) but one thing none of them have is the ability to consciously quantify their future and make course corrections. They are all instinct.

I always look at movies like this as, What if they replaced the dinos with modern species? Would the story and the characters' intentions still work, or would they just look silly? I guess I'm confused about what this movie is trying to be. Is it The Lion King or March of the Penguins?
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Old 05 May 2013   #30
Originally Posted by ThE_JacO: Trailer's been Disneyfied a bit through accurate selection of shots. The movie has its fair share of animalistic and brutal moments (don't know if the gore made it, probably not ).

But yeah, we would all have loved reptilian eyelines (head sideways and still/twitchy all the time), but it makes it almost impossible to read scenes, and I'm not talking about just this movie.
You're left constantly wondering WTH is going on following the creatures noses instinctually when the action was on the opposite corner of the screen.

The sense of antropomorphization you get is 99% that.

It's good when you have animalistic shots and want a frightening creature briefly (Raptor animatronic in the 3rd JP in the eggs scene is hella disquieting without doing anything thanks to that, it creates that alien feeling of knowing you're not looking at a human) but a few shots in a row of it and it becomes extremely confusing.

It's funny, but it seems we generally suck at reading non-human eyelines as a species. Had the same problem with Sucker Punch's dragon, it constantly made the beast look stupid and we ended up straghtening its vision considerably.


That's funny, because with human characters and even in live-action sometimes you see directors coaching actors to "look at a certain spot instead of where you'd normally look because that's better for the blocking."

But I guess one can argue that's still a "use of front-oriented eyelines".

So this movie is like "Land Before Time" meets "Jurassic Park" with a dash of "Lion King" and a sprinkling of "Happy Feet" but without the singing and dancing?

Another odd feeling I had btw watching this was that... there's quite a few daylight shots, but for some reason the dinosaurs in this one felt "brighter" than the ones in Jurassic Park... But when I looked at JP again, I noticed even the grass was not the same color... So I guess it was just a bit more washed out in JP.

You shot the outdoor plates on Digital or something?
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