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Secure and Secret.
Not gonna tell ya.
Canada
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Hmmm... Good point. The only thing that I can think of is:
[ SPOILER - Click to reveal ] Loose alright. Loose like a sweater made of boiled spaghetti worn while you're jumping on a trampoline! |
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Part-Time Blenderite
Giancarlo Ng
Quezon City,
Philippines
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Good.. except if that was the story:
[ SPOILER - Click to reveal ] __________________
"Your most creative work is pre-production, once the film is in production, demands on time force you to produce rather than create." My ArtStation |
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Secure and Secret.
Not gonna tell ya.
Canada
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If Jack was a real hero, he would have
[ SPOILER - Click to reveal ] |
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lifelong scholar of art
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Andrew Prewett
Animator
walnut creek,
USA
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Alright I just got back from watching the film, I actually thought it was magnificent as a whole as long as it isn't over thought. The shots are immensely gorgeous and serious kudos to the design from drones to towers to the marvelous bubble ships. It was delightful watching the machinery work, especially the flying combat scenes where he is rotating and fighting the drones with the ship going in a different direction than his rotating cockpit. I was a huge fan of the Tron soundtrack so hearing this film's score left me just as happy in that aspect as well.
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Giancarlo Ng
Quezon City,
Philippines
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Beech (Morgan Freeman) explains that:
[ SPOILER - Click to reveal ] __________________
"Your most creative work is pre-production, once the film is in production, demands on time force you to produce rather than create." My ArtStation |
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Secure and Secret.
Not gonna tell ya.
Canada
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I think the question was more related to what Vika sees on her screens from the guncam footage, or footage downloaded from the TET.
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lifelong scholar of art
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Andrew Prewett
Animator
walnut creek,
USA
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I did mean the footage.
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Expert
Eric Marodon
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I concur with the rest : Kosinski proved once again he's got a great eye for production design, visual style and the music is top notch, overall a very good craftsman, but when it comes to the story... it's plot-hole galore.
It only holds if you try to not think of it... a la Transformers/Avengers... except that the film pretends to be smart, emotional, contemplative, subtle... which suggests that you SHOULD engage your brain and leaves you plenty of time to analyze everything and ask the right questions about the characters motivations etc... Had it been a mindless action flick, Michael Bay style, it wouldn't have mattered. You get what you pay for. It's dumb, but you asked for it. But here it tried to be a good intelligent movie and not only a good VFX showreel, hence the backlash. Overall it's only "decent experience" when it could have been awsome. Last edited by EricM : 04 April 2013 at 05:27 PM. |
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Daddy x 4
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Wyatt Harris
WyattHarris.com
Baton Rouge,
USA
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Good grief, do you guys really analyze a movie that much while you're watching it. How would you find time to possible enjoy it?
I thought it was pretty good, beautiful to look at for sure and that house. I wants it! It was a neat little puzzle to figure out but you'll have the plot figured out pretty quick. The pacing was way long, my brother said he nodded off 3 times during the first half which I could definitely understand. We had just finished a big meal so that didn't help. I was making my wife laugh the whole time with Maud'dib and Wall-E jokes. There was a point at which I had to say, "For he is the Kwisatz Haderach." You'll know it when you see it. __________________
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Andrew Prewett
Animator
walnut creek,
USA
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Well I used to be able to just enjoy any movie without a second though, the problem with dwelling in cinematography, storytelling and other similar areas of interest is that everything is a learning tool and merits to be nit picked hah. I wasn't cutting down the film though, I strongly feel it was money well spent to enjoy it on the big screen and it is very likely it will jump onto my home shelf when it comes out.
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Michael Sime
animator/rigger
NYC,
USA
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Originally Posted by WyattHarris:
Good grief, do you guys really analyze a movie that much while you're watching it. How would you find time to possible enjoy it?
If a "thinking" film is done well, the analyzing is how you enjoy it, and is rewarding, Unfortunately most sci-fi these days (I'm looking at you Prometheus and Looper) ask you to "think" but then fall apart the second you do. Haven't seen this yet though, so don't have an opinion on its plot. And thanks for all the spoiler tags, appreciate it! __________________
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Secure and Secret.
Not gonna tell ya.
Canada
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Originally Posted by WyattHarris:
Good grief, do you guys really analyze a movie that much while you're watching it. How would you find time to possible enjoy it?
I've seen it twice. I'm also a writer, so I study the storycraft used in specific films, to find out if it works or not, and find out how to elevate my writing. This film is an example of how to not build your story. |
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Daddy x 4
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Wyatt Harris
WyattHarris.com
Baton Rouge,
USA
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Originally Posted by Pixanaut:
I've seen it twice. I'm also a writer, so I study the storycraft used in specific films, to find out if it works or not, and find out how to elevate my writing. This film is an example of how to not build your story.
Ah, that makes sense then. After that mile long post from you earlier I thought about my analysis of the film and it consisted of about 5-10 min. on the ride back with the 5 of us who went. After that I put it out of my mind because as you guys have said, there wasn't much there to dwell on. I will say, the flight sequences made it worth seeing on the big screen. I like to feel (aurally, tactiley) a movie as much as see it and that was pretty good. __________________
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Secure and Secret.
Not gonna tell ya.
Canada
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Originally Posted by Andrewty07:
I did mean the footage.
I think that [ SPOILER - Click to reveal ] |
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Part-Time Blenderite
Giancarlo Ng
Quezon City,
Philippines
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I also think that:
[ SPOILER - Click to reveal ] @WyattHarris: The issue I had was that the film betrayed itself and its "agreement" with the audience for details it lays out quite a few times. The examples cited above actually bothered me too. Some things you just can't ignore like: [ SPOILER - Click to reveal ] Still, it was sort of good for the big screen. It was spectacular and everything, and I actually still enjoyed it. Somewhere in there was a GREAT movie that would have "rung all the three bells"... But it didn't quite come out this time. My parents came out of the cinema today saying GI JOE Retaliation was better than Oblivion - *shrug*... __________________
"Your most creative work is pre-production, once the film is in production, demands on time force you to produce rather than create." My ArtStation Last edited by CGIPadawan : 04 April 2013 at 12:46 AM. |
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