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Old 11 November 2012   #16
I really enjoyed it. The historical nods were welcome too. I disliked some of the other bond films that felt the need to abandon typical Bondism's just to appease 'modern audiences'.

What really excited me was the miniature work. It got me so excited and cant wait to find out more about these guys.


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Plot wise? I loved it up until the end pay off scene. I would of liked to have seen more about the compromised planted agents, just to get a sense of the enormity of the situation. They seem to have forgot about this aspect of the plot when it became a hunt for M(ummy). They could of done both plots strands justice.
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Old 11 November 2012   #17
Originally Posted by grrinc: I really enjoyed it. The historical nods were welcome too. I disliked some of the other bond films that felt the need to abandon typical Bondism's just to appease 'modern audiences'.


Oh agreed...
This movie said SCREW that.

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Old 11 November 2012   #18
And I felt it's outdated for the modern audience. It's like a 70's romantic plot. I think even Bourne isn't quite there yet, but closer.
 
Old 11 November 2012   #19
To be quite honest the latest Bond movies looked more like a Farcry Game conversion to the cinemas than a James Bond movie anyway.


Haven't watched this one but hearing that it might be more akin to the old ones makes me want to go watch it.
 
Old 11 November 2012   #20
I liked it, but my favorite is still casino Royale. Character development and dramatic tension were much better executed.
Bardem's brilliant acting was not fully taken advantage of either. I guess out of fear of overpowering Bond's character?
Cinematography was great, but I didn't get to see it in IMAX. The IMAX latitude and sharpness is still visible in a normal projection though.
Good flick.

Very nice critique by the OP BTW.
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Old 11 November 2012   #21
Originally Posted by SheepFactory: I liked the movie but I think Casino Royale was a much better film.

I don't see what was so special about the cinematography to be honest, The skyfall parts were beautifully shot but it never awed me like say Road to Perdition did. If you want to see awe inspiring cinematography watch that. Conrad Hall is still unequaled.


I think his work on American Beauty was better. That movie is probably the most beautifully lit, and framed movie I ever saw. Sam Mendez definitely loves good cinematographers.
 
Old 11 November 2012   #22
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im a fan so im biased and i liked this a lot more than quantum and im still struggling, and wanting to, but falling short, of liking it more than Casino Royale.

Theres a few script shortcomings, there's the fact that Bond for the 2nd movie in a row did no espionage work, but did go Rambo on bad guys instead. It feels very americanized, the only part that kept it in UK for me was the very end and the new MI6 being underground.

CG was also badly implemented. Some complained about the explosion at MI6 but i found it fine. The worst sections were the CG helis over the bad guy island and perhaps slightly less bad were the komodo dragons. As soon as they showed them inside the casino, it means Bond will be in the pit with them. too much of a giveaway, and unnecessary.

Perhaps what crappy about those 2 thing is that both could've been done in real life fairly easily with a pile of cash. CG should be used for extremely subtle things or extremely over the top stuff. This middle ground cop-out CG, Im not a fan of.

Then there's the obligatory Bond girl which in this movie, she had little to no reason to exist.

those are the few things that jumped at me as "off". Better than Quantum though.
 
Old 11 November 2012   #23
I saw this last night and liked it pretty well. I agree that the cinematography was amazing, especially the skyscraper sequence and skyfall sequences. The new Bond is pretty minimal in gadgets which is ok I guess, but I'm kind of starting to miss them. It seems like they are trying to set things up for payoff in the next films (and maybe they will have an easier time w/ that now that UA isn't going through bankruptcy).
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I thought Bardem did a pretty good job as the villian, but coincidentally having watched "No Country For Old Men" just the other night I agree that he felt a little bit too restrained here. I was unsure if his "flamboyancy" was a "Bond Bad Guy" thing or if he was just messing with Bond but I was kind of sad that Bond didn't take advantage of his, uh, medical condition that they set up in the MI6 jail. I thought for sure he ended up melting or something. Also thought it was weird that Bond doesn't confront M about putting him back on active duty when he wasn't fit. Seems like they should have taken advantage of Bardem messing with his mind. This is my 2nd favorite Craig Bond movie and I like that you find out more of his past.
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Old 11 November 2012   #24
Originally Posted by grrinc: ***************SPOILER ALERT**************
Plot wise? I loved it up until the end pay off scene. I would of liked to have seen more about the compromised planted agents, just to get a sense of the enormity of the situation. They seem to have forgot about this aspect of the plot when it became a hunt for M(ummy). They could of done both plots strands justice.


Yeah, could have been cool to have more agents being outed and hunted down kind of like in "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy". Then again that movie was terribly boring.
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Old 11 November 2012   #25
Originally Posted by Andrewty07: It was decent in my opinion, as mentioned it is one gorgeous film with nearly every shot leaving me in awe. Maybe if they retitled it as "Gorgeous Shots Featuring Daniel Craig" or something. Some of the CG irritated me a bit as well like the lizards, one of my friends complained about the helicopters as well which stuck out a bit also. Overall it was a worthy addition to the series just a bit lacking after some hype.


Nah... you know what was REALLY annoying?

That shot close-up of Javier Bardem's stunt double sliding down the escalator. That one shouldn't have made final print.
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Old 11 November 2012   #26
Originally Posted by japetus: I saw this last night and liked it pretty well. I agree that the cinematography was amazing, especially the skyscraper sequence and skyfall sequences. The new Bond is pretty minimal in gadgets which is ok I guess, but I'm kind of starting to miss them. It seems like they are trying to set things up for payoff in the next films (and maybe they will have an easier time w/ that now that UA isn't going through bankruptcy).



Well....When they announced the re-boot I pointed to the film "Dr. No" and told everybody that "This is where they will land eventually..... "

And so...

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They will have an easier time now that they've gotten rid of the "antagonistic M".

In one of few details that carry-over from film to film... it's that the Judi-Dench-M has a penchant for mishandling Bond, and in Skyfall they make it that she's caught up for mishandling the entire outlay of field agents, beginning with Raoul Silva.

I still wish Mendes had chosen to make Silva affiliated with Quantum which would allow all the reinvented elements to sit together:

Bond, M, Moneypenny, Q, and Quantum.

I also like it that they establish immediately that the Ralph Fiennes version of M is supportive of out-of-the-box solutions and trusts his operatives to work together. This is the sort of M I always felt the new 007 needed - not that whining woman Bond always calls "bitch" nowadays (It wasn't like that in the Brosnan era).

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Old 11 November 2012   #27
Originally Posted by SheepFactory: Reading the reviews of people after seeing the film, yes, a lot of people feel the same way. Casino Royale was a better film in every respect.


I'm always amazed about the love CR gets, when it is just as dumb as any conventionally bad Bond movie. Whole thing practically revolves around killing folks to get cellphone info ... and these are 'pros' who would keep info in their heads! Add to Bond acting about as mature as Maverick in TOPGUN.

But I disliked SKYFALL even more - it's not even a Bond movie to me. It jumps realities with the inclusion of the fully-equipped DB5, and motivations here are ... as arbitrary as the new spins on Bond's heritage. I loved and reread the books and liked the Connery and Dalton films, (parts of QUANTUM too) but this is something else. Something wrong.
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Old 11 November 2012   #28
Originally Posted by grrinc:
What really excited me was the miniature work. It got me so excited and cant wait to find out more about these guys.
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The last half of my piece deals a bit with VFX, mainly the miniatures at the end:

http://www.hdvideopro.com/display/f...-agent-man.html
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Old 11 November 2012   #29
I have a feeling that after SKYFALL, the ALEXA camera system will become very popular. Digital camera with synthetic grain look plus color keying software built-in.....

Amazing. Explains a lot of things about why it looked so "animated" in parts.
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Old 11 November 2012   #30
voxeljet builds Aston Martin models for James Bond film Skyfall




http://www.3ders.org/articles/20121...lm-skyfall.html
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