FRANKENWEENIE Has Teeny Weeny Numbers at the Box Office. Gets Buried by TAKEN 2

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Old 10 October 2012   #1
FRANKENWEENIE Has Teeny Weeny Numbers at the Box Office. Gets Buried by TAKEN 2



Frankenweenie gets TAKEN out by Liam Neeson!

"Leveraging good will from the first movie, Taken 2 dominated at the box office this weekend with one of the best October debuts ever. Pitch Perfect performed admirably in its nationwide expansion, while Frankenweenie bombed against tough holdover competition from Hotel Transylvania."

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3541&p=.htm

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...2-leads-weekend

Even good reviews couldn't stop this film from being a dog at the box office:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/frankenweenie_2012/

"The stop-motion animation - a favorite tool of Burton's - is given loving attention, and the character design is full of terrific touches, such as the hulking flat-topped schoolmate who looks a bit like a certain man-made monster."

"This 3-D, black-and-white "family" comedy is the year's most inventive, endearing animated feature."

"The best thing about an animated monster movie with this much heart is: It's alive. In the best possible way."

"Frankenweenie" may just be a wacky horror cartoon, but it's an awfully good wacky horror cartoon. Frighteningly good, you might say."

"A strikingly original and delightfully offbeat gem, and one that is, indeed, alive -- alive!"

"In a lot of ways you could look at Frankenweenie as Burton's 'greatest hits' album."


"A heartwarming, funny tale about a boy and his reanimated dog."

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Old 10 October 2012   #2
Taken 2 was shot here in Istanbul. If a lot of people watch it, it may increase the number of tourists who visit here, which would be a good thing.

Sorry to hear about Frankenwenie. Maybe it'll do better on DVD/Bluray...
 
Old 10 October 2012   #3
Wink

While I'm sure Tim Burton did it for a reason and style, it doesn't change the fact kids love colorful things.
 
Old 10 October 2012   #4
Yeah, it got crushed not so much by Taken as by Hotel Transylvania, which has a huge amount of color, maybe one of its few assets is it has color But it had a very low dropoff from last week as well.

I think the release too close to another animated halloween movie, and mostly the lack of color, hurt this one unduly. It's hard enough selling stop motion without it being even stranger to both today's kids and their parents.

Good to hear it is a decent movie though in spite of it being a Burton retread..I was firmly in the "why?" camp.
 
Old 10 October 2012   #5
There is also a creep factor here that is likely keeping audiences away. I've had several beloved pets that have died, including just recently, that I wish could be brought back to life again, but just as I remembered them, and not as reanimated Frankenstein monsters, with their body parts barely held together by rows of stitches. This film seems a bit reminiscent of Stephen King's Pet Sematary, which was not at all cute and fuzzy. Maybe, there is a touching boy and his dog story at the heart of this film, but Burton's stitched it all together with rotted parts from his old films, and a concept that just might be a bit too macabre for young audiences.
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Old 10 October 2012   #6
I wonder if it also has something to do with Paranorman, another creepy/cute stop motion film coming out so recently.
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Old 10 October 2012   #7
I did not think this movie looked very good. Neither did my 5 year old.
 
Old 10 October 2012   #8
I seen Taken 2 at the weekend. I thought it was good, but not as good as the first one.
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Old 10 October 2012   #9
I loved the first TAKEN film. This second one looks so derivative of the first one, that I haven't decided if I will see this one in the theatre, or just wait for the blu-ray.
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Old 10 October 2012   #10
I think.... I will wait for Skyfall.
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Old 10 October 2012   #11
Originally Posted by CGIPadawan: I think.... I will wait for Skyfall.

The more I see of SKYFALL, the more I want to see it. I think they might even have the Bond theme in this one. I sure hope so.
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Old 10 October 2012   #12
Originally Posted by webhead: The more I see of SKYFALL, the more I want to see it. I think they might even have the Bond theme in this one. I sure hope so.


I'm honestly hoping this is the one where they kill off M so we can go back to a version of M that was more like the original one and doesn't antagonize Bond.

They already have "Quantum" in place of "SPECTRE" and the only serious problem I have is that the current M continues in the vein of the 1996 version who is antagonistic of James Bond.

It would be good (and fitting of the title) if Skyfall actually reveals that the Judi-Dench-M was actually a Quantum sleeper and that she is eliminated to make way for someone closer to the Bernard Lee version to make the circular re-start complete. (As they have already brought back Q)

I think that as the Craig-Bond matures a more supportive, but still quick-witted boss would be better for the character as Judi-Dench-M's constant badgering and beat-downs are really pulling down the Bond character in my view. And it would be a great comeuppance for us to learn she was like that because she was actually a traitor.

Sorry to take the thread off topic.. But I was thinking about whether I should get my action fix on Taken 2 (which is getting a lot of good press in the original post), or wait for Skyfall.
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Old 10 October 2012   #13
Originally Posted by CGIPadawan: I'm honestly hoping this is the one where they kill off M so we can go back to a version of M that was more like the original one and doesn't antagonize Bond...
...It would be good (and fitting of the title) if Skyfall actually reveals that the Judi-Dench-M was actually a Quantum sleeper and that she is eliminated to make way for someone closer to the Bernard Lee version to make the circular re-start complete. (As they have already brought back Q)

I agree with you about having an "M" closer to Bernard Lee's "M." The guy who took over the role of "M" after him was so much nastier to Bond, and that nasty attitude has stuck with Bond's boss ever since. "M" acts like Bond is an incompetent boob, when he's actually the best agent she has by far. The Bond villains seem more appreciative of their right-hand men then "M" is of 007. He's saved the world, and her sorry butt how many times? You would think that "M" would be a little bit more appreciative of all that 007 has done for Queen and country.
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Old 10 October 2012   #14
Originally Posted by webhead: I agree with you about having an "M" closer to Bernard Lee's "M." The guy who took over the role of "M" after him was so much nastier to Bond, and that nasty attitude has stuck with Bond's boss ever since. "M" acts like Bond is an incompetent boob, when he's actually the best agent she has by far. The Bond villains seem more appreciative of their right-hand men then "M" is of 007. He's saved the world, and her sorry butt how many times? You would think that "M" would be a little bit more appreciative of all that 007 has done for Queen and country.


It has also something to do with on-screen chemistry. Judi Dench was actually not so bad as M in the Brosnan era because the Pierce Brosnan version of the character always had a ready expression for everytime the Judi-Dench-M would try to scold him.

Pierce always had that "Whatever you say, you old bag." kind of attitude and you got the impression that everything M said fell out the other ear with him. The way the plots were written in that time was that M and Bond grudgingly worked together and M likes to defend 007 in front of other intelligence services.

The Craig character pouts a bit too much during these sequences and he ends up looking more like he hates reporting to his boss. At this point in the "re-start loop" there aren't too many occasions for M to face the greater intelligence community. Bond acts too rebellious and M seems too insecure about his sense of judgment that I keep wondering if Bond's licence is about to be revoked.

I don't think it can go on like that. Skyfall will either see Judi-Dench-M become more supportive of 007 because of the crisis they will share together (as implied in synopsis) or she will be killed off in favor of a new M.

Either way I can't see M continuing to beat 007 with a verbal rattan stick. In "Casino Royale" I can understand it... but Webhead is right... 007 has done enough by pulling the veil off Quantum to supposedly earn some respect from his boss.

On Topic, I think Skyfall is the better bet for my ticket money over either Frakenweenie or Taken 2 ("I killed your son because he kidnapped my daughter!" - I mean.. yeah.. sure... that's the logical continuation...)
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Old 10 October 2012   #15
Originally Posted by webhead: I loved the first TAKEN film. This second one looks so derivative of the first one, that I haven't decided if I will see this one in the theatre, or just wait for the blu-ray.


I seen the first one. I didn't think too much of Neeson in the lead role. He isn't an action actor and it showed through in some of the fighting scenes. I think his best performance ever was in Schindlers List. Taken 2 I can live without.
 
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