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Old 08-29-2012, 08:20 PM   #1
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Autodesk 360 (Cloud Service) TOS: Have you guys read this stuff?

The Term of Serive contains the following language:
“You hereby grant Autodesk (or warrant that the licensor of such rights has expressly granted) a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free, paid-up, worldwide, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) license to store, display, reproduce, modify, use and transmit Your Content, and further waive “moral” rights or other rights with respect to attribution of authorship or integrity of Your Content that You may have under any applicable law and under any legal theory.”

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servle...112&id=17784802)

EDIT: I have friends who work with lawyers and they send me here...
What are MORAL rights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_...(copyright_law)
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:26 PM   #2
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Hahahahaha! This is just wonderful!
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:30 PM   #3
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Apple, Microsoft, and almost anyone who has a cloud service has very similar wording in their small print as well. I'm really not surprised.
 
Old 08-29-2012, 08:33 PM   #4
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Then there is no way in hell the legal department in my job will let me use their services.
Wow just wow.
Correct me if I am wrong ,but it reads like you are giving away your rights to your content.

I wonder how our clients would feel about this.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:35 PM   #5
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Then there is no way in hell the legal department in my job will let me use their services.


Exactly the reason we aren't allowed to use most cloud services (even the Adobe services which I don't think have as strict a clause). Until some of that language changes, the company I work for won't even let us consider looking at a cloud service.
 
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What scare me is that those rules have been up there for almost a year.
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So... it could only be useful if it's not paid work. In the case of paid work, you can't use it because it would violate any NDA's that were signed with these terms. (Probably would anyway.)

Add the lack of plugins and script support, and I'm not really sure who they are targeting with this. Students maybe? Hobbyists?

I hope the cost of this isn't why the max sub price is going up.

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That's a deal breaker where I work. If these are the conditions, that will never be a solution for us.
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That is absolutely shocking. I deal with licensing agreements on a daily basis, not only is this absolutely insane (I would never agree to waive my moral rights, ever), agreeing to those terms would make using it in a professional environment absolutely impossible.

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Originally Posted by RobertoOrtiz
The Term of Serive contains the following language:
“You hereby grant Autodesk (or warrant that the licensor of such rights has expressly granted) a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free, paid-up, worldwide, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) license to store, display, reproduce, modify, use and transmit Your Content, and further waive “moral” rights or other rights with respect to attribution of authorship or integrity of Your Content that You may have under any applicable law and under any legal theory.”]



That's one of the funniest things Iv read all week.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:00 PM   #11
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So they expect everyone to move to a cloud service but then make agreements like this? Are they insane?
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:07 PM   #12
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Seems odd to me. I was trying to figure out how it might be protection against law suits, but it seems like they just want free images for advertising the service.

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Old 08-29-2012, 09:08 PM   #13
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I have to wonder.... Does Autodesk actually want anyone to use their software or continue using their software....I mean it seems like one blundering screw over after another...

I have been a max user for over 15 years, but it's really hard to watch all this happen and sit back and do nothing. Price hikes, the layoffs, added 3dsmax advantages to suite owners over just normal max subscription (which have nothing to do with the other products in the suite), the egg spline, lame upgrades for the past at least 3 years, XBR ( what's going on with this?)...and now this cloud thing.....where does it stop?

It all just seems a bit crazy!
 
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Forcing everyone to shift over to a cloud service is just retarded. I really don't know why Autodesk can't see that.

BTW, Facebook does the same thing with anything you post on it, it belongs to them. So don't post any of your images on there if you're worried about this type of stuff.
 
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BTW, Facebook does the same thing with anything you post on it, it belongs to them. So don't post any of your images on there if you're worried about this type of stuff.


Exactly. Like I said before, most people are probably already using a service of one type or another with this type of wording in it and they don't even know it. Read the small print. It's there for a reason. Not saying I agree with it, but just that it's not unusual and not specific or unique to AD.
 
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