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  08 August 2005
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Guys, I don't want to be the only one posting comments here, but I will respond to belail's question about the watermark. The photos are the property of Hong Ly and he did put the watermark on the photos for good reason. I can ask him about maybe reducing their opacity or something, but I respect his right to copyright his work in the manner which he feels is appropriate. It's amazing in the first place that he has procured permission from the models to post their images online; the potential for abuse of intellectual property is great, and photos of nude models? There's just too much risk involved for these images NOT to be watermarked in some way.

In truth, I was working from the images last night, and at first, the watermarks bothered me. But after a while, I just stopped noticing them.

I'll ask Hong about it though.

Great posts, by the way! Keep up the great work guys!!!

~Rebeccak
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  08 August 2005
wow.. all of these are great, belail, your colour one is coming on really nicely, and libor the linework on your sketch s lovely, though the shading in the crook of her back looks a little flat. You may well be working further on it, so ignore my comments if so.
Squibbit, gorgeous gorgeous work on the texture, it almost looks like something straight out of the old renaissance, were it not for the demon wings and horns. Her left leg (as we look) seems to be short in comparison to her thigh, but there is some foreshortening, so maybe thats to blame.

And now I'm rambled over everyone elses, here's my effort, done in PS 6 with a wacom in about 2.5 hours, working with only three colours and the background colour. I'm moderately happy with it and really enjoyed the experience. And rebecca... I really wanna see your efforts too missus... get posting!

 
  08 August 2005
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Zepyhri,

*competition...too...stiff...must...call...for backup...*

Great work!!!

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  08 August 2005
I hope WIPs are OK:

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  08 August 2005
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augustus,

Wow, starting to look really nice, the lower half of the body is really shaping up nicely. Please keep the painterly feel, and don't render the heck out of the thing. Your drawings have the same nice painterly quality to them which I personally prefer to a highly polished look (though it just depends on the piece).

Nice color sense too, you may want to offset all of the warm colors with just a touch of the cool here and there for contrast.

Great work so far, WIPs are fine with me so long as there aren't a zillion of them and they show real progress!

~Rebeccak
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  08 August 2005
Oi! I figured I'll never get any help if I keep chickening out. This was done with paper and H pencil. Background in charcoal. I'll keep working on it in photoshop during the workshop. Boy I cant wait for school to start so I can at least learn the correct way of doing these things.

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  08 August 2005
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Queensoul,

*Does the wave* ~ Cool beans!!! Thank you for braving the horrible beasts who frequent these forums and posting your work! ~Nah, everyone here is cool, so I'm really happy to see you post!

I'm going to withhold comments until you tweak a bit in Photoshop. Things change drastically, so I'm just going to bite my tongue for the time being. Looking forward to your update!

~Rebeccak
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  08 August 2005
Originally Posted by rebeccak:
I'm going to withhold comments until you tweak a bit in Photoshop. Things change drastically, so I'm just going to bite my tongue for the time being. Looking forward to your update!

~Rebeccak

bwaaa don't you dare That is the only reason I publicly humiliated myself. So you guys can show me how to make it better. A month ago I didnt even know I could get this far. So get to whispering to me

EDIT: I have noticed some definite areas myself. Like the legs look too short to me. I have measure it over and over again and it matches the picture but It looks wrong wrong wrong.
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  08 August 2005
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Anyone feel free to jump in here! Nudie picture reviews for me will have to wait until I go home.

~Rebeccak
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  08 August 2005
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Queensoul,

I couldn't ignore the outraged sound of bwaaa! so I jimmied up a little review which I hope you will find useful.



My recommendation would be to trace, either traditionally or digitally, your image and refine and simplify your linework, not worrying about background shading yet. As you successively trace and simplify, you will gain more confidence with your linework ~ I can draw much more easily after that first initial sketch which is almost always for me a throwaway sketch, a way to get past that psychological barrier of fear. People often think that they have to get things right on the first try, but what is the principle behind that? Practice makes perfect, so always rework stuff you don't feel worked out the first time.

Something I did after I graduated was to retrace a LOT of my old crappy drawings (using tracing paper), just to soothe my ego and feel that I actually DID know something about drawing. What I found when I made the leap to digital art was that it wasn't a matter of me not knowing how to see, but it was a matter of the level of undos which you lack in traditional media, which, in some cases, can only be pushed so far. I found that doing a LOT of work which didn't always turn out so pretty in the end, wasn't so much building a Raphaelian portfolio so much as training my eye to see ~ such that, with the leap to digital work, I was so well-trained to work hard at getting results from the limitations of tradtional work, I was pleasantly surprised to find that indeed I was not retarded and could achieve much more and go much further digitally. Go figure. The long and short of it ~ don't be afraid to work and rework your drawings. The end result is not the purpose. The purpose is to train your eye to see. That is why they say that the better traditional artist you are, the better digital artist you will be.

~Rebeccak

Ah, my boss has gone home, I can critique nude pictures until the cows come home! Or something.



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  08 August 2005
*bows down to your uber arty-good-ness
 
  08 August 2005
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Blue demo,

Moi? Nah, it's all fake.

One thing I learned on the long road to artisticnicity *copyright 2005* is that I really wasn't that talented in comparison to my peers in school. This hit me like a ton of bricks, and trust me, I didn't take it well or gracefully. But it did force me to work hard so I didn't get my a** kicked on a daily basis. I would say that 90% of what I do is hard work, and 10% talent. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I only know a few lucky b******* who don't have to work hard to get decent results. All the rest of us just have to do the work to get better.

~Rebeccak
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  08 August 2005
Wip

Here's how I'm getting on - this is the first time I've used my wacom in anger, unless Warcraft 3 counts.

Please let me know if i'm going along the right lines.

Thanks

Amy
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  08 August 2005
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Originally Posted by rebeccak:
I would say that 90% of what I do is hard work, and 10% talent. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

~Rebeccak


Andrew Loomis says pretty much the same thing in Figure Drawing for all its worth. He claims he was "told to go home" after 2 weeks of art school. He also says that it annoyed him when people put down to talent, what infact was blood, sweat and tears on his part to climb the hill....

He is probably the most amazing illustrator I have ever seen - (or his idol Howard Pyle.)
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  08 August 2005
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default.rol,

That's cool, I didn't know that. Oh, trust me, I fully understand being completely intimidated by the guy or gal sitting next to you, happily creating a masterpiece seemingly effortlessly. It's funny, because years and years after I had graduated, and I finally felt as though I had had a right to attend my school in the first place, I realized that many of the most talented folks in my class had had loads of pre-college preparation at top-notch institutions which I did not have access to. I did attend an arts magnet program in high school, but it was nothing on the level of what some of my peers had attended. I just had to work harder for longer, and in the end, I think I've outstripped some of those for whom school was just too easy. That's why people who are older than you always tell you not to compare yourselves to others ~ that success is relative only to yourself, and is a long-term game. It's impossible in practice, but in theory, it makes sense.

That's why I just encourage people to show their work, no matter what their skill level. Number one, anyone who posts their work is guaranteed to improve, because they will see their work in a new light when compared to the work of others. Two, no one learns well in a vacuum, and part of the great thing about CGTalk is that artists don't have to work in lonely isolation anymore. So I just encourage folks to utilize this as an opportunity to grow in their work without fearing that others will come down on them. So far, everyone has been great, and that has been greatly appreciated!

~Rebeccak
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