The Journey Begins Challenge (2D) Entry: Ramy Badie

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Old 04 April 2006   #61
Coloring WIP: the light shines through



Ok I tried my best to incorporate as many of the suggestions as I could from what I have been told so far, hopefully you will like the changes :) Obviously I haven't worked on the kid yet, and the foreground is still a bit too alive. I'll get to fixing these things next week though because I'm about to head on over to my uncle's house til wednesday, so for now, let me know what you think :)
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Old 04 April 2006   #62
ahbeejieh- wow that's a lot of good stuff to take in, hopefully I'll be able to work it all in. Thanks for the advice.
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Old 04 April 2006   #63
Well, I'm back, and it's time for me to get back to work on this piece of course. Hopefully I'll have some meaningful updates tomorrow, I start spring break friday so I should have a bit more time to work on this for about a week, even though I'm going away monday and tuesday. So hopefully some good progress and updates will come your way tomorrow.
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Old 04 April 2006   #64
hi Ramy,

sorry it's been so long. been really busy at work. your pics lookin great. i think the thing you need to try with your perspective is this. i reason that if it's two inches on your canvas to the horizon, then at one inch toward the horizon he'd be half the hieght he is now. right? so using that rule i estimate your cottage is still probably half the size it should be. the same would go for a trail deminishing into the distance. (the width, of course, not height)

as far as the hill thing. i'm just saying that if you're going to have the house be lower than the people, as if it were in a little valley, try to make the horizon of that hill distinguishable. for an example you can look at my master and srevant piece. it's not great, but it has a hill in it and you can make out the edge of it easily. otherwise you run the risk of your house just looking very short. i hope that's a little clearer than i was before.

another thing i noticed is that your sky seams to have elements of both a sunrise and sunset. i'm thinking it's a sunset, but i would try to check out some reference and verify that your pallet is right, they're fairly subtle. you also have a pretty constant level of saturation and contrast throught the whole image that's making it feel flat. i assume you haven't really attacked that yet. if you have and you're fighting it, then use more drastic changes and force it into a dynamic range.


hope some of this helps. keep up the good work!
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Old 04 April 2006   #65
Coloring WIP: bush closeup



Just enough time right now for a quick closeup shot, I'll be back to respond to comments and work more on it based on crits later :)
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Old 04 April 2006   #66
Coloring WIP: proportional change



Basically I changed the size of the house and the characters by comparison to each other (still need to adjust the proportions of the characters themselves), here's a before and after shot of the change. Hopefully it looks better now. I also desaturated the background slightly so that it wasn't glowing so much, and introduced some blues into the top of the sky. I want to make it appear as more of a sunrise so that it can signify the beginning of a journey more. Hopefully you will have some suggestions for me :)
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Old 04 April 2006   #67
Hey anzibon, nice to see you in here again I'm trying to fix the picture up based on what you are saying one step at a time, hopefully it's at least partly better now than it was before. I'm glad I have a while still before the deadline because I still have so much work to do Hopefully it'll all come together.
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Old 04 April 2006   #68
Coloring WIP: saturation and lighting



After a great deal of tweaking the lighting and saturation of the picture, here's what I come up with. I suppose it isn't too much different from before, but I decided that I would make the background sky the most saturated, then make the foreground the least. I don't know how well this works, but I feel that it at least looks more dynamic and deep than before. Hopefully someone will have some insight for me from this point, I really need to get to work on the characters, but I want to get the lighting and saturation to a point whre I am satisfied first so that I don't have to reshade them a hundred times. For now the characters are just place holders in a sense, so I'd love to hear what you think about the rest of the image, as well as the positioning and sizes of the characters by comparison to the rest of the image.
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Old 04 April 2006   #69
Coloring WIP: mysterious



Please tell me which one of these looks better, I just can't seem to come up with any sort of appealing atmosphere. I feel like the second one has more of a mysterious hazy feel that I like, so I'm leaning towards that one a bit, but I really would like to hear what you think about it.

By the way, you can see a bigger version of verison 2 here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../mysterious.jpg
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Old 04 April 2006   #70
The one on the right edges out the other one in my opinion. Creates that nice atmospheric effect, which delineates a greater contrast between the foreboding foreground and the safe, comfortable background.

I may have missed it, but why the switch from the pregnant woman to this? I loved the colors in the first concept! Actually, you have excellent color usage regardless.

Excellent work man! Can hardly wait to see the finish product.
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Old 04 April 2006   #71
Thanks for the kind words, and I'm glad you said the one on the right since it confirmed my opinion. I changed the concept before because I just wasn't pleased with how the other one was turning out and I couldn't seem to get it right at all, I'm fairly happy with this new concept, I have a few ideas still that I would've prefered to do but I'm so far into this one now that I figure I might as well finish it and make it as interesting as I can. Hopefully it will turn out well.
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Old 04 April 2006   #72
I like the right one too... the colors are great... and those flowers you show in an earlier update look really good..
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Old 04 April 2006   #73
Hi Ramy, you have such a cool name! As for your picture, may I suggest darkening the foreground elements (the upper parts most especially, like the hanging vines) to help focus the viewer to the subjects in the midground better. Try increasing the size of the father and sister and see if it works well with the current size of boy. Turn the skeleton a bit to the right, and perhaps tilt it down a bit because right now it sits unnaturally straight up (unless it is hanged or tied to the tree). If you still want it to sit that way, then the skull should be looking down from the weight of gravity.

The bushes behind the boy looks really great!
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Old 04 April 2006   #74
Coloring WIP: boy redone



Hopefully he looks better, he isn't finished yet but at least it's an improvement I think, it's a starting point for now. Let me know what you think :)
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Old 04 April 2006   #75
but to me it looks like he have two right hands...

but I like his pose and faceexpression...
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