LC#43 Tears in the Rain (by Stahlberg)

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  02 February 2016
Hello to all,
so a bit of feedback in reverse order
@ gfx really great image, I will add a bit more drops on the background and boost the front light in order to boost also SSS in the nose and give it a more human flesh. Also the blood should be more red since now it seems dry. great comp overall I love this image
@ rabblenarms great image and thanks also for posting the comp breakdown Since it doesn t need rerendering can you try also other color grading ? I am curious to see how they will look like
@ ahqi I am really curious to see how it looks with textured eyes. the tshirt seems eeal while the overall hear is a bit sparkling but in the right way hope to see more soon
@ abuha please include the image in the post so we can all see it. the eyes are really shining while the overall image seems a bit too dark. probably it-s just my monitor pls post more
@ Since it-s a still probably I will go for the modelled approach. realflow can really do magic but i never tried it on fur. please keep experimenting and show your results
@luck6 great texture pls add updates
@ chris can you make a version with a darker background ? it will be interesting to compare the two version.
@ it is an incredible start pls post more I am also curious to see redshift since I have never tested it
@ It seems the eyes texture has something off. pls check the dimensions. Also you should try to make the face more wet like the neck keep going and post more please

thanks to all for taking part. this is a real challenge in my opinion. sorry for typos I am writing from a keyboard in another language. to all keep the pace and keep going
Giorgio
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  02 February 2016
Originally Posted by rabble1narms: The only thing I would add is a bit more rim on his nose,




Good call rabble1narms. I was staring at the nose thinking why does it look so flat. Failing to see the wood for the trees!

I put a small spot light just on his nose so as not to disrupt everything else.

I have also gone in for some heavy post fx including a fair bit of sharpening to give it some bite. This has pushed it away from the reference image but that Bladerunner frame seems to be smoothed out due to compression. I think the sharpness is arresting and I'd like to know how to do that in Arnold if possible. The sharpening is a bit of a cheat to make him look wet and greasy without using the shaders to do it completely.

I have noticed that my image and other people's look quite different full size, so it's a good idea to go full screen on them.

jojo1975, thanks for your input too. I should know a thing or two about how rain looks since I live in London, however I have added a few more drops. The blood remains dry for now I'm afraid! It's another challenge to get it wet too. It was hard to get it to stand out as red among the blue lights I used. I should have lit with white and graded it all together perhaps.

I think I've learned a lot about the Arnold skin shader. I would approach it differently next time. Many thanks to the thread moderator and Steven Stahlberg for the model.
 
  02 February 2016
Unfortunately i lost my old composition so i did it again.More darker than before.
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  02 February 2016
Originally Posted by chris_lwgr: Unfortunately i lost my old composition so i did it again.More darker than before.

Looks great! Very artistic and balanced feel. Emotional too.

Tiny things that stood out to me. The rain over his face is pure white. Surely not may things are that pure, except perhaps the eye highlights? Try a tiny bit of green or blue in there.

The specular reflections in the eyes don't match which puts me off a little. If they are both reflecting the same thing and are both almost spherical shouldn't they match a bit more?

Plus, is the darkness under his chin and on his neck correct. If there was that much light falling on his face wouldn't some bounce back off the floor or surrounding environment and make it not complete black in that area? This could be the film grade making it black but his face isn't that heavily graded. Of course you can discount this question by just saying that's artistically what works best!

The white blob in the background is a bit distracting compositionally. It draws the eye away from the focus point you intended.
 
  02 February 2016
The rain over his face is pure white. Surely not may things are that pure, except perhaps the eye highlights? Try a tiny bit of green or blue in there. I was using B/W background so i changed some colors on post.You were right!

The specular reflections in the eyes don't match which puts me off a little. If they are both reflecting the same thing and are both almost spherical shouldn't they match a bit more?Something weird happened with reflections.

Plus, is the darkness under his chin and on his neck correct. If there was that much light falling on his face wouldn't some bounce back off the floor or surrounding environment and make it not complete black in that area? This could be the film grade making it black but his face isn't that heavily graded. Of course you can discount this question by just saying that's artistically what works best! It was intentionally dark but i added some GI to fill the dark.

The white blob in the background is a bit distracting compositionally. It draws the eye away from the focus point you intended.Corrected.I didnt liked too.

Also added some blood veins to his eyes.
Thanks for your comments.

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  02 February 2016
Some color variations....(Best viewed by clicking on image and then on photobucket clicking the magnifying glass)
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  02 February 2016
Thanks chris_lwgr - I could not resist having a go at grading your image. Hope you don't mind!


Image credit chris_lwgr, model Stahlberg
 
  02 February 2016
Wip 6. Figured out a decent way to make rain on the face. I took a duplicate mesh and scaled it in. After that I subdivided it up and sculped rain up from that point. Applied a glass shader to it and it gave it a pretty solid feeling. This is the first test at the approach so its a little heavy handed. Whole image needs to be cleaned up

 
  02 February 2016
Added blood using the prestonplatt technique mentioned above.

Added some images of Tokyo in the background. You might not believe me but they are there.

 
  02 February 2016

A bonus image!. A Blade Runner 2 teaser poster inspired by the fact filming begins in 2016 and early information indicates that it will again star Harrison Ford with Sir Ridley Scott producing.

If you share this please credit Stahlberg for the model.
 
  02 February 2016
I need to add that my character has obviously had his eyelashes cinged off during whatever he has been through!. I only just noticed the model came with eye lash placement polys.I have also pushed it away from trying to achieve 'realism' towards some kind of illustration style.

Last edited by cgx : 02 February 2016 at 01:38 PM.
 
  02 February 2016
Weird your last two pictures, I cant see them on the forum
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  02 February 2016
Does this work? Drag them to your address bar to view full size.
Sorry if people are seeing these more than once.


 
  02 February 2016
I have made a new guy using what I learnt on the old one. The previous one had no real SSS in evidence so I have tried 3 different SSS image maps on this one.

So far so good.

 
  02 February 2016
work in progress
 
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