Placement of eyes

I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on the placement and shape of the eyes within the head. I know the corner is placed above the wing of the nose, yet I have a tendency to draw the eyes (At least the upper lid) first and it tends to get a little silly.
Is there a way of judging the shape and how the shape curves around the head?

Thanks alot

Hi FarDays

What works for me is to simplify the form of the head I want to draw into a sphere where the sides are sliced off a bit.
Adding a cross wher the horizontal line represents the eyebrow line and the vertical line is used as a guide for nose and mouth placement, will surely help determine the correct place of the facial features.

If this isn't making much sense, take a look here where I was facing the same problems with respect to placing the facial features...

Hope it helps,
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Edit:
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