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Old 06-23-2005, 02:43 AM   #46
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Now thats funny. Dont be hating on the price my friend . Just because modo got more out of your pocket that should not make you jelous of Silo. Silo knows what it's doing. Trust me if they could not offered to give us that price, it would cost just as much as modo. But i think for customers its a good bargain and we should enjoy it while it lasts.

But i do think in the near future they might raise the price since they are working on lots of new things, and also lots of new modeling tools as well.



I'm curious, VisualKing. Have you used Modo? What is it about Silo, in your opinion, besides the price, that makes it a better modeler than Modo?

** oh, and I agree with you about the prices, it seems if you are gonna get a new modeler, now is the time.

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Old 06-24-2005, 07:01 AM   #47
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hey fez

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I'm curious, VisualKing. Have you used Modo? What is it about Silo, in your opinion, besides the price, that makes it a better modeler than Modo?

** oh, and I agree with you about the prices, it seems if you are gonna get a new modeler, now is the time.



Did i say Silo was better than Modo? I do not think i mentioned that. They are 2 different programs with different sets of tools, i concider them great new toys for the future.

To answer your question, i have used Modo in fact i have about 6 more days left from the trial version. Its a nice program to tell you the truth, but i like the interface better on silo and its easier to grasp. Since i am a maya/max user i can see why the lightwave users get so excited over Modo. Just to let you know, i am watching both programs closely as they hit siggraph05. They both have their strenghts and weaknesses, and isnt that the case for all programs? We all wish we had tools modo had, and im sure Modo users also wish the same on some tools that Silo has.

They are both great tools but so far i am leaning more towards Silo. Silo will have new tools, new updates in the near future so i can not be wrong on any of these programs if i were to choose. But since i am also a Zbrush user, Silo are used more among Zbrush users than Modo as i have observed. Modo is not mentioned much on zcentral, mostly Silo for the Topology brush that people use when importing from Zbrush. I am working on the same workflow and for that reason, Silo suits me well. But i think in the future, most programs will copy this tool like Zbrush already has something similar in the next update. I would not be surprised if all the rest of the applications would follow this trend because i think this is the next revolution for any modeler.

Model first, and worry about topology later. Its so much easier than worrying about topology in the beginning and than you model.

I hope this helped you a little and i just wanted to clear that up that i have nothing against Modo. I think modo will follow the trend in my opinion and so are the rest of the programs.
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Old 06-24-2005, 07:12 AM   #48
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hi fez

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Did i say Silo was better than Modo? I do not think i mentioned that. They are 2 different programs with different sets of tools, i concider them great new toys for the future. .


To answer your question, i have used Modo in fact i have about 6 more days left from the trial version. Its a nice program to tell you the truth, but i like the interface better on silo and its easier to grasp. Since i am a maya/max user i can see why the lightwave users get so excited over Modo. Just to let you know, i am watching both programs closely as they hit siggraph05. They both have their strenghts and weaknesses, and isnt that the case for all programs? We all wish we had tools modo had, and im sure Modo users also wish the same on some tools that Silo has.

They are both great tools but so far i am leaning more towards Silo. Silo will have new tools, new updates in the near future so i can not be wrong on any of these programs if i were to choose. But since i am also a Zbrush user, Silo are used more among Zbrush users than Modo as i have observed. Modo is not mentioned much on zcentral, mostly Silo for the Topology brush that people use when importing from Zbrush. I am working on the same workflow and for that reason, Silo suits me well. But i think in the future, most programs will copy this tool like Zbrush already has something similar in the next update. I would not be surprised if all the rest of the applications would follow this trend because i think this is the next revolution for any modeler.

Model first, and worry about topology later. Its so much easier than worrying about topology in the beginning and than limit yourself from speed and creativity. I say be creative first, and than do the rest. Constantly fighting your way through modeling with edgeloops is time consuming and not as fun.

I hope this helped you a little and i just wanted to clear that up that i have nothing against Modo. I think modo will follow the trend in my opinion and so are the rest of the programs.[/QUOTE]
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:39 AM   #49
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Silo = An artists tool.
Modo = A technicians tool.

Just my opinion

Modos workflow just feels totally awkward to me, but I've already commented on these issues so many times, try a search to read up on my opinion about that one.
 
Old 06-24-2005, 08:27 PM   #50
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Am I the only one that wish threads like these had more comparitive info on toolsets ?

I'm a firm believer in the best tool but you can only download and fully test so many demo's at a time.
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Old 06-24-2005, 08:35 PM   #51
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that's what I wish too, comparisons. But it "seems" not to work because people always take it too personally. If you insult their package it's like your insulting their ego.
 
Old 06-25-2005, 10:25 PM   #52
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Nevercenter is a couple of guys in Utah. Luxology is a massive team in the San Francisco bay area. Luxology's overhead for operations is probably alot higer than Nevercenters.


Good to see that concepts like right or wrong don't slow down your posting. Your Rainman-like skill with numbers is astounding.
 
Old 06-25-2005, 10:54 PM   #53
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If this thread is gonna stay open, let's keep it to "Silo has this feature, Modo has that, I like this one more than that one because *in my opinion*..."
 
Old 06-25-2005, 11:27 PM   #54
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So if you talk about Silo next to Modo, Silo is already a "Bentley" next to your BMW. Go to the Siggraph 2005 this year and see the next update for Silo. I think Silo will have the last laugh. It will speak for itself.




Can we hold you to that?

seriously?

Silo is a bentley? LOL!! that was good for a nice laugh.
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Old 06-26-2005, 12:07 AM   #55
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If this thread is gonna stay open, let's keep it to "Silo has this feature, Modo has that, I like this one more than that one because *in my opinion*..."


Silo has ME as a user. Modo DOESN'T!
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Old 06-26-2005, 12:58 AM   #56
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Silo has ME as a user. Modo DOESN'T!


And because KBOC uses it seems to make it an industry standard. :P
 
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And because KBOC uses it seems to make it an industry standard. :P


NEVER FORGET THAT!!! Yes, it will be on the test!
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:29 AM   #58
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:35 AM   #59
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Can we hold you to that?

seriously?

Silo is a bentley? LOL!! that was good for a nice laugh.


Since i can tell you are a hardcore modo user, i will not bother. I just want you to laugh all the way to siggraph2005.

I will let Silo speak for itself. No need to bash applications here because it does not worth it. With the tools silo has you can model anything you want. Organic or hard surface. To me it does not matter what tools are you using. You could hate the tool or love it. In my case of course i love it. In your case is the opposite but hey everyone got their own thing and i respect that.

Cheers..
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Example: This thread has turned out to be quite opinionated.


Jam, Feed, do us a favor and lock this motha' up.
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