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  02 February 2009
Wondering

For a while now, I've had it in mind to do an image, using Max, composed entirely of ephemera, old letters, ads, photos, cards, stuff like that. Either on like a bulletin board or in like a shadowbox. But I'm not sure where that comes down in art. Is it a good use of 3D? Would it be just as good done in Photoshop? I'm just not sure where it stands in terms of art. I'm primarily an illustrator. I do like to think what I do is art, and many years of traditional art instruction lead me to believe I at least halfway know what I'm doing. I'm just not sure that a scene composed of entirely paper works into the whole genre.
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  02 February 2009
I think it's a good idea, and to make it worthwhile to do it in 3D, you must treat the image like it really exists in a spatial reality. Light the "scene" so that there's a sense of depth. Take a look at Dave McKean's early work (before he even started using Photoshop, like the early Sandman covers). He would use objects, photographs, drawing/painting, cutouts...etc and construct an image that has a sense of real presence.
 
  02 February 2009
Well, in this case, I want to use Vray and get as close to photo realism as I can. Not something I usually do. I tend to not like to take images that far. But in this case, I want it real. I just wasn't sure that portraying a scene of just papers and photos and ephemera, although from different time periods, was a worthy thing to do artwise.
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  02 February 2009
http://www.gbtate.com/auctionsalesx...aidinfull4x.jpg there's the one I was looking for
 
  02 February 2009
I've seen similar paintings before, and while I like them, they're mostly a sub genre of still lifes. They don't tell a story, at least not to me. My concept is that I want, by carefully selecting the ephemera and photos in the image, to tell a kind of story, a history if you will. I'm not sure it's possible to do that in a way people will grasp. But I really want to try, and it's been something I've been thinking about for nearly a year. In one respect it's simple. Not a big deal image in 3D. But in another respect it's terrifically complex. In terms of composition it's horrendous. I mean, you have photos, letters, tickets, assorted bits of paper all tacked up on like a bulletin board. How to arrange a good composition for that is a question I haven't answered yet. Because the ephemera is layered, like history, with only bits and pieces showing as well as whole bits. I have a traditional art education, and I like to think I'm pretty good at composition, but this kind of composition is outside my experience. That's one reason I've been pondering it for so long. But if I can get it right, I think I will have genuinely created 'art'.
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  02 February 2009
how can you question if something is worthy artwise? Its your art if you want it that way, then by all means make it.

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  02 February 2009
Well, that's what my ex wife says too. Yes, we're friends, It can happen lol. But if you have a traditional art education, you often stop to wonder about whether something is "art" or not. You get doubts.
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