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Old 07-22-2006, 11:38 AM   #1
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Hi all!

Something I want to consult with you about, and a proffesional tip will be alot of help - because I am really confused.

My name is Matan, and drawing is more than a hobby for me. You can have a look in some of my artwork here:
http://www.expoze.co.il/show_portfolio.php?id=666&cat=0
and here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77645942@N00/show/

After being exposed to Heinrich kley's work
(http://www.coconino-world.com/sites...ey/mng_kley.htm), I thought about buying a really fine fountain pen - which will fill my lines with life - in compare to the dead lines of the rapidograph I am using (0.1 and 0.05 - very thin). My ideal pen is as thin as a pen can be, and available for use everywhere (in compare to ink and nib that can be thin and make living lines - but can't be used in the bus, for example). Wondering in pen stores here in Israel made me realize that extra fine fountain pens are not available here, and even if I will find one - it will be really expansive. Disappointed, i tried ebay, and found some not-so-expansive fountain pens that I can allow myself.

I wanted to ask for your experienced opinions - Are those pens worth buying? Will they be able to make lines as thin as the 0.05 rapidograph? Do they nead special kind of paper? Will they survive a long time?

I have an old fountain pen - but it's nib is only fine (not extra-fine). Is it possible to just replace the nib?

Here are the links to the pens I have thought about:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ROTRING-ESPRIT-...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pilot-Elite-Fou...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROTRING-INITIAL...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/WASP-Addipoint-...1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks,

Matan
 
Old 07-22-2006, 10:07 PM   #2
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Just get dip pens. That what artists typically use--especially comic book artists in both the west and in the east. The Japanese manga artists are partial to the G nibs, and many American comic book artists use them as well based on their reputation. I used all kinds of pens when I worked in comic books, including technical pens for buildings, and lots of brushes for organic stuff--you have to try them all and decide for yourself what you personally like. Lucky for you, nibs are relatively cheap compared to the fountain pens you are looking at. The main reason you shouldn't go for fountain pens is that they are unnecessarily expensive, and if you draw a lot, the tip will wear down fast. That's why you use dip nibs, because they can easily be replaced and cheap.


Some links for you:

http://www.wetpaintart.com/Product_..._Wet_Paint.html

http://www.mangaarts.com.au/pen_nib.htm

http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/inking/ink.html

http://www.tothfans.com/forums/topi...C_ID=1108&#5182

A lot of comic book artists just use regular water-proof plastic nib pens, and they "fake" line weights by going over the thicker parts. That's valid too--no one cares how you do it, as long as it looks pretty. I personally loved brushes, but they are expensive (never use cheap ones).
 
Old 07-23-2006, 06:30 PM   #3
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Thanks

It does help me alot, because when I thought about buying a fountain pen I didnt think about the life time of the tip of the nib.
My problem with nibs is that ink is not such a portable medium. I think I will stay with my simple pens and rapidographs. If anybody has a better idea I will be glad to hear it..

Matan
 
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