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Old 06-10-2005, 06:45 PM   #1
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Is Road Kill Art?

LONDON - A rabbit becomes a pot plant and a beheaded owl is turned into a desk tidy: by the alchemy of art, British university student Ebony Andrews is turning dead animals — including pieces of roadkill — into provoking artworks...

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Old 06-10-2005, 06:53 PM   #2
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Wow. Never thought I'd ever see something like that happening. I wonder what he does about the smell...
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:14 PM   #3
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definalty not my kind of art... but if it comes from an idea it is art..
so i guess.. yes it is art..

true.. wonder how they smelt.. must be a quick gallery ... or.. the air conditioning was maxed out
 
Old 06-10-2005, 07:27 PM   #4
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I imagine they have been preserved using taxidermy so they aren't decomposing.
 
Old 06-10-2005, 07:34 PM   #5
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but if it comes from an idea it is art..
so i guess.. yes it is art..


So by that logic, the gas chambers in World War II were art too, because they came from an idea? Unusual way of looking at things

This sort of thing is certainly not to my taste, but if people want to surround themselves with this, then that's their choice.
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:39 PM   #6
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How are you supposed to answer that if you haven't even seen the artwork? This is tantamount to asking: Are pencil marks on paper considered art?
 
Old 06-10-2005, 07:42 PM   #7
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this reminds me of the Duchamp "the fountain" debate. I suppose it can be considered art, although I can't say that I like the message or appreciate the form.
 
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may is, maybe is not. Maybe the artist just want to make a shock to the art community, it's a good pub for him. A couples years ago there was shit art and it was not that original because the idea is a little bit easy, there is often no good research in that kind of art. (Like a lot of art student who say: heu yeah, I put black in my drawing because the feeling is sad and i am sad and black is sad to show the society is sad...)

But maybe I am worng, we must hear the artist to know what is his intention with that.

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this reminds me of the Duchamp "the fountain" debate. I suppose it can be considered art, although I can't say that I like the message or appreciate the form.


Yes and he won the artwork of the century!

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Old 06-10-2005, 07:54 PM   #10
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So by that logic, the gas chambers in World War II were art too, because they came from an idea? Unusual way of looking at things

This sort of thing is certainly not to my taste, but if people want to surround themselves with this, then that's their choice.



speaking of nazis, it was them who used the term "entartete kunst" (degenerated art) when they started burning books and banned art they didn't like.
IMO this is the best argument why nobody should dismiss art just because it's disturbing or doesn't follow common aesthetic guidelines.
 
Old 06-10-2005, 08:25 PM   #11
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Is there actually a line as to what art is?? I really don't think there is one anymore... you don't even need to think anymore, just create instinctively.


Maybe THAT is what art is...something that is created. There you go, I've solved the dilemma!

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Old 06-10-2005, 08:30 PM   #12
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The real question is: Is Art roadkill?
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:10 PM   #13
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Seen it all before.

"Oooh look , I pickled a cow, how controversial!!"

Boring, but it does seem to hit the newspapers so I suppose it's worth doing for the publicity, someone give her a Turner Prize.
 
Old 06-10-2005, 09:22 PM   #14
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It's absurd to compare the work of an art student to Gas chambres..that doesn't give any merits to the argument.

As Nate mentioned, we haven't seen the work, how could we judge it? But if we want to build a wall around what art is, then it is a different discussion.

Dead animals are being stuffed with preservative materials and being sold in many places around the world, exhibited in museums for learning purposes, a form of art that has been practiced by older tribes in more primitive societies, it's been practiced along history, now suddenly it's wrong!!
It is disgusting to my taste, and pathetic, but doesn't make it wrong. What is wrong is killing the animal for pathetic reasons like art. If that student killed the animal to use its parts for a project, then yes, this goes beyond this discussion, and there is no point of questioning the artistic merits anymore.
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Edit: re; first line above: Surely, art definition doesn't follow the logic of the idea as an essence, however the idea represents one of core values to define art.

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Old 06-10-2005, 09:30 PM   #15
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she uses road kill in her art. It works.
http://www.customcreaturetaxidermy....sy/fantasy.html. made me think twice about it.
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