Originally Posted by 99sproth
You really have to feel it to know what its really like. I really hate it when I know people are thinking I'm just having a winge, or some late teenage angst.
I feel exactly the same way. I don't even let people in my life know how I feel any more because I know they wouldn't understand. Although I'm not sure it's so much about understanding as being able to do anything about it. I don't think there is an external cure for feeling like this, it has to come from the inside. The problem I have is that I feel like this because I choose to see everything as meaningless. In order for me to be happy, I'd have to change that opinion. It's like the saying goes: life is not worth living until you find something you are willing to die for. That could have a flawed meaning in that if you are willing to die for nothing then life is worth living but it really means that until you find or make a purpose for your life, you can't be satisfied. As Agent Smith points out:
Agent Smith: But, as you well know, appearances can be deceiving, which brings me back to the reason why we're here. We're not here because we're free. We're here because we're not free. There is no escaping reason; no denying purpose. Because as we both know, without purpose, we would not exist.
Agent Smith Clone 1: It is purpose that created us.
Agent Smith Clone 2: Purpose that connects us.
Agent Smith Clone 3: Purpose that pulls us.
Agent Smith Clone 4: That guides us.
Agent Smith Clone 5: That drives us.
Agent Smith Clone 6: It is purpose that defines us.
Agent Smith Clone 7: Purpose that binds us.
Agent Smith: We are here because of you, Mr Anderson. We're here to take from you what you tried to take from us.
Agent Smith: Purpose.
Some people create meaning in their lives with love, family, career but if you are looking from the outside, it doesn't make sense. You have to be part of the system. If you don't want to be part of the system (like me), another world beckons. The Matrix is one of my favourite films of all time because it presents that idea so fluently.
Originally Posted by Arces
but the permanent remedy for depression that I found is (believe it or not) - love.
I don't agree with that. A lot of people have been saying the same thing, even on other forums I visited. To me love is no more than a bodily interpretation of compatibility. I have been in love with people but only because I have things in common or because the girl was so stunningly attractive. The latter is lust but people sometimes consider that love or it leads to love.
I got the feelings in my stomach and thought about them from the time I got up until the time I went to bed. However, if I was blind and deaf, I would never have been in love at all. It's not a transcendental force that supercedes everything, it's false and material just like everything else.
Love also is not permanent. Humans don't seem to me capable of being totally selfless and unconditionally loving.