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  12 December 2016
Feed back and Advice on Sketches/2D art

Hello,

I have here some recent sketches that I have done over the last few weeks and I just wanted some feedback if possible from someone other than myself lol. I have been following tutorials from ctrlpaint.com, studying from Andrew Loomis's figure drawing for all it's worth, and doing some constructive drawing.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sh...157#post4013157

I am quite frustrated because I don't really know what to study or how I should study art. I don't have a portfolio and I haven't done a finished piece in years. Currently I am trying to practice anatomy and trying to learn how to paint digitally but, I am not sure if this way of learning is helping me to improve.

If I may ask, how do you guys study and improve?

Thank you for your time,

- wmkhan13

Last edited by wmkhan13 : 12 December 2016 at 05:23 PM.
 
  12 December 2016
Have you read the sticky threads at the top of this subforum? I have written extensive posts on this exact topic, explaining how to learn and practice effectively so you don't waste precious years of your time using ineffective methods and fall victim to bad habits, while not seeing any significant improvements.

Start with this sticky thread, and then also read the others ones too: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthr...?f=166&t=844409
 
  01 January 2017
I just went through them. Thank you for linking them to me, those threads are very helpful and I should have looked at them first. That does answer most of my questions but, I was also hoping someone could take a look at my sketches and tell me what they think. Like how does the perspective and anatomy drawings look? Do my skull and life drawings look accurate? How are the proportions? I would like to know so that I know what areas I am lacking in and that I could correct.

Thank you again, Lunatique for your response.
 
  01 January 2017
Your overall accuracy of shapes and proportions needs to be much higher. This is normal because you're still a beginner. The main issue is that you're being too lenient on yourself and not critical enough. To achieve accuracy, your standard needs to be much higher. You need to be able to first gain the basic skill of adequate eye-to-hand coordination and critical visual assessment. Your copies need to look so similar to your source that people would have to really pay attention to be able to tell them apart. Until you have attained that level of skill, you'll find yourself continuing to draw shapes and proportions that look incorrect and misshapen.

One of the boot-camp drills I give my students in the first week of my workshop (linked below in my signature) is to be able to draw/paint from a reference photo so accurately that you wouldn't be able to tell them apart easily without looking closer. There are specific techniques for achieving accuracy and that's just a small portion of what I teach in the first week alone. This is basic skill for proficiency as an artist, because it forces you to recalibrate your standard for accurate shapes, proportions, values, edges, etc. And you can't just pick any photo either--it has to be one that's carefully chosen to maximize the amount of training and insights you would gain from the exercise.
 
  01 January 2017
Thank you for your critique Lunatique.

I have been having trouble with my proportions for a long time and wondering how good my sketches actually were. Your response is very helpful.

I looked at your course and it does look very good and is something I definitely want to take it but, in my current situation I am in university right now in a non-art related program and I don't know if I could take your course at the same time with my classes and be able to handle it but, I will definitely keep your course in mind if I am able to take an art course.

If I may also ask, I draw both traditionally and digitally and I practice from life and from photographs. I am trying to get more use to using the stylus and I am doing some digital sketches to get better at drawing. One thing that I have been doing for the last while is that I would draw from a photograph from direct observation and then move my sketch over on top of the photograph to see how accurate my sketch is. Do you think that is a good way to fix my proportion issues?
 
  01 January 2017
There are no deadlines in my workshop so you can take your time and work at your own pace. Some students even had emergencies in the family or lost their jobs or had unexpected vacations, and they simply come back to the workshop weeks or months or even years later and pick up right where they left off, and I don't treat them any differently and still answer their questions and give them in-depth critiques. That is one aspect of my workshop that's unlike any other workshop out there--you get basically life-time mentoring from me. Ask any of my alumni students and they'll tell you it's true. I've been mentoring all of them for years now, and many of my very earliest students from 2010 are still constantly getting guidance from me in our private Alumni Lounge forum.

As for your question about drawing accurate, I have a specific set of strategies to cater to different situations and levels, including horizontal flips, modular grid system, visual assessment methods by matching distances, angles, negative space, and simplification. What you described (putting your drawing as another layer on top of the original) is one method, but that can't be the only method you use, because when they two images are overlaid together, you're not engaging your brain's visual assessment that's required for a reference to copy scenario--you're just assessing one image that's a composite of two different images. That's useful for when you can no longer spot any differences between your copy and the original reference, but yours still looks wrong. If you're not at that point yet then it won't help you nearly as much as the combination of the other techniques I mentioned. You need to use all of them together in order to be able to draw accurately.
 
  01 January 2017
You say that I can take my time but, when I head to the enrollment page it says that the course is 8 weeks long and we have access to the material for 4 weeks after the course, is done is this correct? Also, when would the next enrollment period be after the February period if you don't mind me asking?

Thank you for your response.
 
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