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Old 03-23-2005, 12:15 PM   #1
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Master and Servant 3D Entry: Robert Mack

Robert Mack has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

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Latest Update: Final Image: Thanks a mountain CGTalkers

Well here it is guys:) The result of many sleep deprived evenings... Massive thanks to all who contributed to this process with me... I have grown in both my understanding of my tools and my need to express aspects of humanity as art...

here's the link to the full image... 'Cindy' 3072x3840 1.2mb

Here's where it started...

The main jist of it went something like this..."I am attempting to communicate the relationship between a little girl-and the things she fears/ is driven by. In the image I’m creating it is hoped that upon first viewing the audience will interpret the girl as the master and then, as they study the scene, grasp that she is actually the servant of the creatures in her head…
I hope to convey a real sense of power yet helplessness in each individual in the image…that is my main challenge"

And here's where it went to...

My current story for the image goes... "My Servant is a seemingly innocent little orphan named Cindy whose parents hated her and cruelly tormented her before they died in an ‘accident’ just over a year ago (their house mysteriously burnt down while Cindy wasn’t in it)…Well, as a result of listening to her subconscious demons (her masters), Cindy has just set fire to Bentwood, the orphanage where she spent her last few hellish months…We meet Cindy just as she is leaving Bentwood… She feels empowered to be taking control of her life again, in the only way that she and her demons know…by fire…she is on her way to ‘visit’ her grandma, who she wants to 'repay' for putting her in the orphanage after her parents died…

It was consistently a major goal with this image to initially ‘trick’ the viewer into thinking Cindy is in contol... and then realize that it is her demons that are driving her toward more evil deeds, within moments of viewing… Also, if I've done my job well, that Cindy is as much the master of fire 'as a cleanser' as she is a servant to it... It was my way of communicating the blurred line between a human as individual consciousness, and subconsciously driven actions..."

Thanks CGTalk and all associated for giving me the vehicle through which to envisage, and then realise this piece, like I said before, it's been a priceless experience for me, that has taght me much, every step along the way... Cheers;)

And thanks to all my imaginary friends who helped me so much, and in such a personal manner... You know who you are!! Cheers ;)
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Old 03-23-2005, 11:59 PM   #2
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first ruff

Woohoo, spent some time scribbling out rough concepts for this piece and here's the first notable direction it went in...

added 'vibe' test

Basically it will be a pic of a little 'innocent' girl taking her demons for a walk...I will attempt to communicate that the girl is just as driven by her demons as they are pulled along by her, hence steering this toward my original goal of blurring the line between...

I plan to develop each character in this piece conceptually as much as possible prior to 3d...I need 3-6 more 'demon' concepts...any ideas
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Old 03-24-2005, 01:10 AM   #3
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Hey great sketch, the monsters look great. Good luck. I will look forward to seeing your image develop.
Old 03-24-2005, 01:18 AM   #4
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Demons: Skulls, skeletons, ghosts, zombies (Parents?), Teachers, ...

Cool concept.
Old 03-24-2005, 01:47 AM   #5
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Nice to see you join, I was looking for your thread. Nice concept. Are you planning to go with comical looking demons and girl or serious/realistic?
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Old 03-24-2005, 02:02 AM   #6
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OMG its the artist formerly known as sumdumguy!

I like the contrasts very much, innocent pretty/ ugly sinister, nice adams family feel!

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Old 03-24-2005, 02:06 AM   #7
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liking the idea daddymack best of luck with the chalenge. love the teddy how about an evil puppy??
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Old 03-24-2005, 02:24 AM   #8
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Nice concept, first thing I heard in my head was "lions and tigers and bears oh my!" from the Wizard of Oz. I guess demons that each represent a different childhood fear would be interesting...closet, under the bed, heights, spiders & bugs, things that bite, etc. Just an idea...good luck!

Old 03-24-2005, 02:27 AM   #9
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Nice concept, as for other demon types Im not sure off hand but it will come to you though, Good luck!

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Old 03-24-2005, 08:34 AM   #10
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nice man, i wanna see more! keep it up!
Old 03-24-2005, 08:46 AM   #11
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Unique idea...can wait to see bro !!
Old 03-24-2005, 04:54 PM   #12
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going to be fun to se this develop, great idea. see you

Old 03-25-2005, 01:13 AM   #13
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nice concept..feels almost a bit tim burton inspired
Old 03-25-2005, 08:01 AM   #14
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Hey DaddyMack. Great concept - like the fact you are trying to show that we are as much driven by our demons as dragging them round with us! Cool.....! Good luck and look forward to seeing your ideas progress. Claireabella
Old 03-25-2005, 08:56 AM   #15
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I love the sketch. When I first saw it, i thought is was about a girl and her imaginary friends, which would have also been cool, but the little girl with demons is a great twist. I'm also drawing a blank on childhood nightmare creatures at the moment. I'll try to come up with something.
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