Master and Servant 3D Entry: David Marsh

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Old 03 March 2005   #16
Hi again David

First of all, hope you had luck/skills to pull yourself out of the december+ situation.

Great concept. Like it a lot. Itīs so true, we really are little servants in these situations....and in a lot others btw...

The model looks fine so far. I have to say, that I dont find her body attractive. Dont know what it is. Probably just personal taste. No big issue here. But you sure made some big advantages...

I would work a little more on her attitude. I dont think she looks bored in your scene concept. I want her to do something active, to look like she couldnīt care less about those men. Reading a book maybe, even though it would be a strange thing to do in this inviroment. Just doing something, totally without taking notice to the guys standing around her. Hope it makes sense.

And finally, I want to wish you good luck with this. You sure are in you field with this challenge...

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Old 03 March 2005   #17
Hi Kragh, good to hear from you.

Glad you like the concept, hopefully I can give the final image a nice comic appeal.

I see your point about her attitude in the picture. My original idea was to have her bored and disinterested. However, although attractive women must hate it when guys continually letch over them, i'm sure that on some level they are enjoying the attention.

So what I need is apparently bored but secretly loving it... tough one.

Cheers for dropping by, you in on this one?

H3rbie - Cheers for your comments, I want to go for something a little more characatured so expect to see those curves getting even bigger by the time i've finished, but yeah, you're right they need to match whatever happens.

Thanks for all c&cs always appreciated.
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Old 03 March 2005   #18
I'd like the same at home!!
Very good body modeling!
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Old 03 March 2005   #19
Modeling: Modeling Female Body

Back view...
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Old 03 March 2005   #20
What can i say, love the sketch, love the model , what program r u using?
Old 03 March 2005   #21
I canīt believe my eyes, our minds are the same. I usually start with head, and than I made a body. Your character looks good. Good luck
Old 03 March 2005   #22
Hi Nebezial,

3DMax is my software of choice.

Glad you're liking it. I see that our ideas are taking us down some similar modeling paths.

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Old 03 March 2005   #23
Hi David

Yeah, I am in on this too...not in 3D though, trying out my drawing skills this time.

Tough one, being bored and exited at the same time....really cant give you any advice on that, it sounds to me as being very complicated....but interesting. To give you an idea, still using the book(I know the book isnt a good idea, its just to give you an example of these two emotions working together): Sheīs reading the book, having a little smile on her mouth...maybe not starring at the pages very focused...I dont know, just to get you started...

With your character addiction, you really should give zbrush a try....(im paid by pixologic to say that)...I was stunned by the angler movie on their webpage.

Have fun

EDIT: Btw, you female character is very attractive from behind....just wanted to say, that this view on her, changes my overall view...nice...
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Old 03 March 2005   #24
Muffin1 - We have gone down similar paths here haven't we. I always used to start with the head myself but I tend to dwell on them when really i should be moving on to other stuff. As this deadline is a bit shorter than previous challenges i'm trying to make sure i get everything done that I can - hence body first, head last.

Kragh - I do like the book idea. I think you are right suggesting that the expression and emotion of the woman will make or break this image. It needs to be just right. I like the 'looking at a book but not reading it' idea as it will allow me to express the type of emotion I have in mind. Plus, it might make her look more intellectual and subsequently give her a more subtle level of attractiveness than the in your face pixel porn we're used to.

Hmmm, you've definately given me food for thought...

As for ZBrush, you're right I probably should use it more. I've got a copy and have had a go but found the interface so frustrating I gave up. I've seen what some people have done for this challenge and it's truely amazing that they're knocking out top quality stuff in no time atall. It's worth mastering I guess if just to keep up with the competition.

I'll check out that angler movie, cheers,
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Old 03 March 2005   #25
Thumbs up

your servant is a dream of every man in the world....
Old 03 March 2005   #26
Hey, the body is looking like its coming along just nicely. Haha, I know what you mean about Zbrush. I just recently began using it myself. After a while you get more and more used to the interface and eventually you start to like it alot. I recommend that you look some at the Practical Manual.pdf and look in the index to find what you want to be able to do. Since, it is that which is important right now. You can always go back and learn the application step by step once your not in a competition. As for me, I wanted to know how to sculp and how to paint my mesh which I imported from max. And once I understood the workflow basics, it started to show off results which kept getting better as I progressed with the application and reading only tiny bits from the practican guide and generall exploring on my own.

Good luck with it, happy modelling!
Old 03 March 2005   #27
Modeling: Feet!

A close up of the feet - untextured at this stage. A veritable treat for any foot fetishists out there! :)
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Old 03 March 2005   #28
havent seen this ( so many entrys) great work and i be cheking in later
see you and

Old 03 March 2005   #29
wicked. I personally would prefer a little less fat on the waist, but of course - de gustibus non est disputantum . Great modelling, good luck and have fun
Old 03 March 2005   #30
To Swamps

Hey I like your way of finking. Sometimes weamen make everything the wnat with us just because...(put here all the stuff about breasts). The have that strange kind of power over most men just from the moment they are born. Damn! Guys, we supposed to do something about that. (NO offence? Ladys. We're helpless anyway).
So use your image to make us all (men) to fill a shame for our slave-like behavior.

P.S. Don't take all these seriously.
Comrade AK

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