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Old 11-15-2004, 04:22 PM   #61
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I dont see it that way.
It is sure clear that the artist has talent, but if you see how many replies are like "Wow, great shirt" then (provided the shirt is a photo) it is misleading not to give information about how the work was composed.
It does not mean the work does not deserve respect, but the presentation is misleading.

What would you guys say if I posted an incredible car where all I did was exchange the rear mirror, rest is a photo and not tell you?
I can understand people that like the pic, because its nich.
But this is the finished work: §D and animation forum and I would appreciate a bit more information when the work is not entirely 3D.


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I wonder if this fussīs giving results!?

And if a reply from "The Starter" would explain!

I would agree whith the fact ( as someone else before me as refer it)
that it doesnīt have to be necessary difficult to do, to increase qualaty or
deserve respect, (or to be front page), thow ( and as others said; and well "spoken")
a posting (of processes) would "desmestify" the hole fuss!

Complety "3D" or not ( like itīs not) it workīs as real.
It fools many (1st impression) as good job it is!
The final result dependes of the main purpose! Or on Cgīs Moral rules!
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Old 11-15-2004, 04:57 PM   #62
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Hey guys, what`s that talk about....?
Only the shirt is a photo!!
The head is Full 3d.
And it`s not front planar maping!
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Old 11-15-2004, 05:07 PM   #63
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It's about being clearer when you post dude. How many people commented on your amazing shirt shader? I am not suggesting for one second that you were being deliberately misleading, but people are mistaking what's real and what's not (take it as a compliment!).

I would still like to see the original reference photo if you have it available as a matter of interest...

It is still good work don't get me wrong
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Old 11-15-2004, 05:33 PM   #64
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LT anyone?

OK.... So it's settled. It's a CG head on top of a photo. For those who think he looks familiar: Does he look like Lawrence Taylor to anyone maybe? That's who I thought of. Can't get a good picture of LT online but this is the best I could do:



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Old 11-15-2004, 05:42 PM   #65
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I would still like to see the original reference photo ...
It is still good work ...
and to finish all a normal wire render from camara angle.

P.s - Good choice about modeling Lawrence Taylor (if itīs him)
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:12 PM   #66
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It`s not him, It`s random face of balck man. So i can`t just use planar maping of any photos, i have to texture it by hand and help with reference photos
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:38 PM   #67
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great work !
keep that !
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:52 PM   #68
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I totally agree with Olli Wuensch. In the introduction of the picture there should have been mentioned what was done in Photoshop and what pieces are totally 3d. I donīt say that it is bad work, but I am a little bit dissapointed that it did hit the frontpage. In the past there were such great works, hard works with a lot of details, which surely did take a lot longer and they never did even get so much replies. I think it is really the missunderstanding that Olli Wuensch mentioned. The head maybe 3d, but it is only a small part of the entire picture.

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Old 11-15-2004, 07:30 PM   #69
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Agreed it should not of made the front page. Not because its bad its just that there are far more interesting, detailed, and inspiring peices. This still is an above average piece and maybe a lesson to people. Good compositing is important and useful.
 
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It`s not him, It`s random face of balck man. So i can`t just use planar maping of any photos, i have to texture it by hand and help with reference photos

So can we see the texture?
 
Old 11-15-2004, 08:45 PM   #71
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The texture was probably painted with Zbrushes AUV proj paint mode. Which means the texture wont make much sense. This is fine i think its reasonable to beleive he hand painted the texture, which is very well done imo.
 
Old 11-15-2004, 09:15 PM   #72
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Originally Posted by apocalypseneon
Uhmm, I' m not very sure about light on kid's face,

Kid's face? Are you serious?
That looks like a "vintage" guy to me!

Btw, great work man! I like. If I not wrong, this is the first black textured character I've see arround here. Great job again. keep up the great work!
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Old 11-15-2004, 09:42 PM   #73
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Quote:

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but I am a little bit dissapointed that it did hit the frontpage. In the past there were such great works, hard works with a lot of details, which surely did take a lot longer and they never did even get so much replies

I canīt understand the devotion for baroquism it seems to reign in the CG community. Everybody is like "look what Iīve done in 3 months time with 15 million polys" instead of "hereīs what I did with 200 polys in 15 minutes".
We are disscusing about art, time and polygons, brushes or layers are important information, no doubt but are not the point.
by the way, when I first saw it I only thought "woooooow, what a shirt, amazingly done!" shame itīs a photo.
 
Old 11-16-2004, 12:39 AM   #74
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thats amazing work! zbrush is really cool cheap too!
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:46 AM   #75
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I canīt understand the devotion for baroquism it seems to reign in the CG community. Everybody is like "look what Iīve done in 3 months time with 15 million polys" instead of "hereīs what I did with 200 polys in 15 minutes".
We are disscusing about art, time and polygons, brushes or layers are important information, no doubt but are not the point.
by the way, when I first saw it I only thought "woooooow, what a shirt, amazingly done!" shame itīs a photo.
Sure, you are right! For 7 hours it is really great work. It really fits great into the picture! But that is not the point. Neither the enviroment nor the body are part of the 3d-creation. Even you yourself said what a great shirt... my opinion is that it had to be mentioned in the introduction to get a fair and correct rating from everyone! That was what I meant. Now we have this... unpleasant situation for us and the creator. Splitted in two factions. It was not my intention to offend someone or to crititze work. Just wanted to make my point clear.

And now I am out! Enough said to that in this post! This is not the right place to discuss that.

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