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Old 09 September 2004   #1
Inah, Igo Pavlov (3D)



Title: Inah
Name: Igo Pavlov
Country: Canada
Software: Xsi, Maya

Style of the character design is inspired by various European comics.Basic modeling is done with Sofimage XSI in abut 2 days + 2 more days of tweaking. UV layouts, rigg and render performed in Maya. Rendered with lighting ring of more than 20 directional lights in Maya.
 
Old 09 September 2004   #2
Shes nice. You got that eastern feeling right but I think there is a bit more work to do on the earings as it looks like the earing and the ear a soldered togheter.

Continue your great work!!!
 
Old 09 September 2004   #3
Nice.

I recomend using another shader for her skin, tho. It looks too plastic with that one.
 
Old 09 September 2004   #4
Igor,

Man...I don't know what to say about this model. I hope this doesn't come off too harsh - but, you've already graded from VFS, this model would have been acceptable in Term 1 or 2, but I think at this point you should have gained a greater knowledge of modeling. I'd like to give you crits but there are just so many things you have to fix. I suggest you ignore texturing and just try to do a model with proper lineflow and anatomy, which is asthetically pleasing.

Good luck man,

-Kol
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Old 09 September 2004   #5
I tried to go for style and make my animators life easier, not exhibit (mimic) the Star Wars/Golum achievements.

Originally Posted by KWAK: Igor,

Man...I don't know what to say about this model. I hope this doesn't come off too harsh - but, you've already graded from VFS, this model would have been acceptable in Term 1 or 2, but I think at this point you should have gained a greater knowledge of modeling. I'd like to give you crits but there are just so many things you have to fix. I suggest you ignore texturing and just try to do a model with proper lineflow and anatomy, which is asthetically pleasing.

Good luck man,

-Kol
 
Old 09 September 2004   #6
one can (and should) employ proper lineflow while producing a stylized 'animation' character. Your animations would be a million times better and easier to produce if you had a visually-interesting character without loads of tris and N-gons. I'm also confused at to why her feet and hands are so heavily subdivided and cleanly defined while her body is so light and messy.

Just because a model isn't realistic doesn't give you excuse to model sloppy, unattractive characters - look at Woody from toy story, or Mr. Incredible from the Incredibles. In repect to geometry they are both relatively simple, stylized, 'cartoony' characters, yet they're also very asthetically pleasing and employ subtle yet realistic textures to push the model up a notch.

I still would suggest that you go back and try to model a character with proper lineflow, and develop a definable, interesting style.

-Kol.
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Old 09 September 2004   #7
VFS (stigma) about triangles and part of the body that need to be differently defined are not always 100% right way. Generally I got your point and thank you for finding the time for the critique.


Originally Posted by KWAK: one can (and should) employ proper lineflow while producing a stylized 'animation' character. Your animations would be a million times better and easier to produce if you had a visually-interesting character without loads of tris and N-gons. I'm also confused at to why her feet and hands are so heavily subdivided and cleanly defined while her body is so light and messy.

Just because a model isn't realistic doesn't give you excuse to model sloppy, unattractive characters - look at Woody from toy story, or Mr. Incredible from the Incredibles. In repect to geometry they are both relatively simple, stylized, 'cartoony' characters, yet they're also very asthetically pleasing and employ subtle yet realistic textures to push the model up a notch.

I still would suggest that you go back and try to model a character with proper lineflow, and develop a definable, interesting style.

-Kol.
 
Old 09 September 2004   #8
Originally Posted by igopavlov: VFS (stigma) about triangles and part of the body that need to be differently defined are not always 100% right way. Generally I got your point and thank you for finding the time for the critique.
My aversion to tris and N-gons is NOT due to some VFS stigma, I'm complaining about them as a professional character modeller, Tris create poles upon sub-division/approximation (causing artifacts and pinching during render), and thus should be avoided whenever possible. N-gons (5+ points) should ALWAYS be avoided. You could easily avoid the tris and N-gons in your character, I would advise you to rework your topology.
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Old 09 September 2004   #9
I’ll do the “re-flow” – thank you again

Originally Posted by KWAK: My aversion to tris and N-gons is due to some VFS stigma, I'm complaining about them as a professional character modeller, Tris create poles upon sub-division/approximation (causing artifacts and pinching during render), and thus should be avoided whenever possible. N-gons (5+ points) should ALWAYS be avoided. You could easily avoid the tris and N-gons in your character, I would advise you to rework your topology.
 
Old 09 September 2004   #10
Hey Igo, good to see you posting.

I'm totally with Kolby here. He's got some good crits and solid modeling advice. I managed to get a look at your wires before they disappeared off your website and yeah... even animators need good clean meshes to work with.

With the models you had worked with in term 3 and on your reel I would think you would have a better sense of line flow/topology by now. Not only that but the purpose behind it. I must admit I am also quite confused about the hands and toes of your model... They look like they were done in a totally different way than the rest of the character. It's one think to speak of style, but then you go and create a character with elemnts that so blatantly don't match. Just something to consider.


Anyway, don't get discouraged... Keep going! hoep the crits help!
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Old 09 September 2004   #11
I agree. I just don’t believe in this 100% quad-trias-fobia. I removed the wire-pics to redo them, damn IT! I’ll repost it as soon as I finish. The hands are nurbs, rest is poly.

Thanks for the comment

Igo®


Originally Posted by 3d43Jesse: Hey Igo, good to see you posting.

I'm totally with Kolby here. He's got some good crits and solid modeling advice. I managed to get a look at your wires before they disappeared off your website and yeah... even animators need good clean meshes to work with.

With the models you had worked with in term 3 and on your reel I would think you would have a better sense of line flow/topology by now. Not only that but the purpose behind it. I must admit I am also quite confused about the hands and toes of your model... They look like they were done in a totally different way than the rest of the character. It's one think to speak of style, but then you go and create a character with elemnts that so blatantly don't match. Just something to consider.


Anyway, don't get discouraged... Keep going! hoep the crits help!
 
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