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Old 10-27-2003, 10:35 AM   #1
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New Forum – Evocative

Howdy everyone,

We've just started a new CGTalk forum called "Evocative", which Mark Snoswell talks about in detail here:
Read the article

In a nutshell, Evocative is a serious, focused critique forum for everyone to learn how to present or 'evoke' emotion in your existing artwork.

Before posting, please read the article to get a better understanding of what this forum is for.


Old 10-27-2003, 12:01 PM   #2
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Hi Mark

I think this is an interesting article and I think it worth emphasizing the point that pictures are enhanced when they provoke some sort of emotion in the viewer.

But, I also think that in 3D it should be possible to admire a model for its own sake, i.e. its shape and form, proportion etc. without feeling that it must necessarily be textured, put into scene, tell a story or whatever.

Expose 1 does have one or two models that are not textured and in a way I don't think the car (and architectural) renders that appear are intended to evoke any particular emotion, except maybe admiration for their realism and the skill that has gone into doing them. I hope that Expose 2 will also have a place for such models and renders.

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Old 10-27-2003, 02:00 PM   #3
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eyyy very good idea this forum. This one's gonna be one hell of an inspiration source for me.

consider me subscribed
Old 10-27-2003, 02:03 PM   #4
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This is definetly a forum I will get new wallpapers off

one thing, I doubt that many will actually post here to begin with so it would be great if mods would move extremely inspiring and well done works from the wip forum to this one, just to get this one started
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Old 10-27-2003, 02:06 PM   #5
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This is THE place for people to hone their skills in creating truly stunning imagery -- images that have great artistic and commercial value!

It will get every bit of attention that I can give it to help people hone their skills. Dramatically improve the appeal of your work -- and you stand a way better chance of getting published in in film, TV and of course books like EXPOSÉ 2.


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Old 10-27-2003, 02:09 PM   #6
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Ahh great... another freaking forum for me to spend too much time checking... no really this is a great idea and I hope that it helps to improve the "art" of my work and the community as a whole. Good idea Mark!
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Old 10-27-2003, 02:11 PM   #7
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excellent should be an invaluable resourse
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Old 10-27-2003, 02:11 PM   #8
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I hope there will be a lot of input soon wherefrom i can learn to improve my pictures =)
Good idea, I hope people will use it a lot
Old 10-27-2003, 02:12 PM   #9
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hey Mark I agree more with you

I'm sorry I make a mistake.I know your meaning now.
Thank you for your idea and help,MARK ;-)

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Old 10-27-2003, 02:15 PM   #10
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Re: New Forum – Evocative

Hi .. I hope you're all starting by reading the article and not just jumping in and engaging your mouths before brains ...

Read the article

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Old 10-27-2003, 02:25 PM   #11
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mmm hehe cool, I was wondering what that maintanance break was, happening at this time of night in Australia...

I'm really looking forward the seeing the new images and reading the comments in this forum (/me subscribes in anticipation), it's sounds like a great way to get some variation from the mostly technical style of critiques in the forums

(hey, it'd be cool if there was a button or something to move your thread in between the forums to try and control the type of feedback you received for different stages of the work... so you could work on technical aspects of a model in the WIP or focussed critique forum, and then move the thread over to here for more artistic crits).

hmm, and the way the main CGTalk page has been recatagorised looks neat too
Old 10-27-2003, 02:29 PM   #12
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I'm greatly looking forward to seeing the work submitted here for critique

Please bear in mind that this forum, like the Focused Crits forum, will be heavily moderated - the purpose of this forum is to make great work even more fabulous, so that means no rabble, guys!

Now let's make some art
Old 10-27-2003, 02:32 PM   #13
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this is it

lately i have been running out of good ideas and been wondering why i haven't been creative. after reading this article of yours i realized that i have been stuck in that technical world (oh man i gotta makesomething that looks really cool hdri this and global gi that)...but i always had no idea what to make...and NOW after reading this, at this moment, alot of ideas just sparked in my head.. i have written them and drawn them on paper already..but i just want to say thank you for that intro article, because it opened up my creativity again.

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Old 10-27-2003, 02:35 PM   #14
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Great idea to create a forum, which gives you the time that you
can express your feelings.I agree with evreyrthing.
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Old 10-27-2003, 02:53 PM   #15
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Seems like a good idea to fight the 'Hey, you just press some buttons on that computer and pretty pictures come out'mis-conception but I'm a bit confused - is there a forum order we should be posting images to get critiqued? What I mean is, is it o.k. to post an image on this forum without first posting it anywhere else on cgtalk or would you rather people submitted the picture to 'focused critiques' first to get the tecnical issues ironed out?

I assume once it's been through this forum, a piece would go to it's relative 2D or 3D 'Finished Works' forum?

And another question (sorry, just trying to get this stuff clear in my head) will front page plugs come from this forum or just the 'finished works' forums?

Basically what I'm getting at is will this forum and the 'finished' forums operate in parallel and independant to each other or serially as part of a process.

I think that's it for today.....=]-

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