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View Full Version : Softimage 3D 4.0 is $1495, would you buy it or XSI?

06-06-2002, 06:25 PM
Would you buy 4.0 or XSI?

06-06-2002, 07:36 PM
xsi plz....but it still costs a load more :( Frankly i would rather have maya than softimage|3d 4.0, both roughly cost the same.

06-06-2002, 08:01 PM
XSI or you might as well buy maya for that price like the man said.

06-07-2002, 11:20 AM
how much is it if you buy soft 3d and then upgrade to xsi?

06-10-2002, 11:23 AM
that would be some loophole wouldn't it ;)

I believe the upgrading days ended with XSI version 1.5, they are no longer connected.

06-10-2002, 02:18 PM
If you buy softimage 3D you can do an upgrade to XSI check out the response I got from a dealer:

Hi Corey,

I see that softimage now has Softimage 3d v4 for a good price, what would be my trade in credit for that to XSI essentials?

Thanks again!

I could give you a trade-in credit of $2440.00 CAD towards XSI Essentials.


06-10-2002, 02:22 PM
Really? :surprised
So you would be saving some $1400? :)

06-11-2002, 05:37 PM
"ILM upgraded to SOFTIMAGE|3D 4.0 to take advantage of new features"

If it's good enough for ILM you would think it would be a good choice?

06-11-2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by 3DDave
"ILM upgraded to SOFTIMAGE|3D 4.0 to take advantage of new features"

If it's good enough for ILM you would think it would be a good choice?

Not at all. You see, ILM has a team of programmers, and over the years they developped in-house tools that you can only dream of. The mortal users we are must deal with the basic package.

Just my 2 cents
Salutations - Cheers
Bernard Lebel

06-11-2002, 06:28 PM
The only reason ILM uses softimage|3d is because their production pipe is wound so closely around it. Did you also know that they use software other than softimage? Shocked? Dont buy into all of the marketing hype. If you want to make ILM quality imagery, learn RenderMan.

06-11-2002, 10:24 PM
I agree that Softimage 3D is only the beginning foundation to what ILM produces. I am actually a Lightwave 7 user, but I like to keep an eye on what the industry is doing and explore other options as they may fit in my future goals. The 3D tools may be coming down in price, but the cost of rendering certainly is not. That's the one area that does not have a lot of competition at the moment.

06-12-2002, 05:17 AM
Actually you can snag a copy of entropy (a renderman compliant renderer WITH GI) for about 1800$ now (much better than paying pixar 8000$ per CPU for PRman). Hopefully new apps like Messiah render will add even more competition.

06-13-2002, 07:50 PM
is it a good value though, with Maya being only slightly above? Not a Maya vs Soft thingy, just want to know if I'd get my money's worth with the recent price drops and all

06-21-2002, 11:31 AM
Maya was actually used for quite alot of the podrace sequence for Episode 1. But Softimage3D is still their main tool. Actually the scene from Episode II where Artoo is flyng around was animated in Cinema 4D!

06-21-2002, 11:35 AM
cinema4d? where did you read that?
you today almost every package is used on big budget projects.

06-21-2002, 01:57 PM

R2 scene was animated with Lightwave on a mac by an artist named BillyBrooks

06-21-2002, 02:03 PM
Here's the original e-mail from Brad Peepbler (

I personally know an animator at ILM who created a completely CG R2D2 in LightWave. You can see it on the trailer in 2 places. Once following Amadala and Ani and once flying around. These are both fully CG and fully LightWave. They used radiosity baking to get the photorealism.

NewTek is not allowed to advertise this as ILM is very private about their work, but we are allowed to "talk" about it, so there you go.


06-24-2002, 01:15 AM
OK you got me there!! Ofcourse it was Lightwave not Cinema 4D. Sorry sir.

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