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06 June 2002, 08:36 AM (

06 June 2002, 08:46 AM
Great artwork,

There´s nothing really i could criticize here, everything to my tyred bloody eyes seems right in place...

But i wonder about ur references, for this and for other similar(kinda arquitectural) works of u...

Do u "copy" a real place somewhere, that u photograph...

Is that a mix of real references and some imaginative tweaks...

Or totally imaginative places with some small real references...



06 June 2002, 08:53 AM
I think that you are "The Ripper" in disguise :) Do you guys hang out or work together. That style of lighting is the tee. Which means it is damn good. I wish I had a some really good crits for you..but Im not a nit picker like some of these guys here. Im sure they will do that for me. You can never go wrong with adding some more scratches on your spec maps....and also maybe more grease around certain areas. There are alot of moving parts in an alevator and they usually need to be hella greased. Maybe make the actual cables look like they are wound with some metal. Some cables are wound for extra reinforcement. Also make it look like it has been serviced or something ...add some finger prints or other signs that people have been in that area. Just suggestions....file it or toss it :) Looks awesome man...maybe someday you guys will write a tutorial on how to get that type of realistic lighing.....yeah, yeah, yeah "Observation is the only thing I do"...that's what they all say ;)

06 June 2002, 09:19 AM
very pretty!

a good management of the lights and a good environment!

quite detailed! superb! :thumbsup:

I am admiring! :drool:

06 June 2002, 09:29 AM
Mmmm yeah, that thing just looks good from every angle. :bowdown:

Only thing I could pick out is, the girder(?) above the H on the left doesn't seem like it should be shiny or reflective..if that's something else, nevermind, it just kind of read as wrong in this pic.

Really want to see that mother animate now..can only imagine what that would look like with the light and shadows shifting, etc.

rock on :buttrock:

P.S. When did you guys do the parking garage? That's looking pretty swift as well.

eric P
06 June 2002, 09:59 AM
Really great,impressive,.........5 stars no doubt. kick ass:applause:

06 June 2002, 11:33 AM
Really excelent texturing, lighting. The modeling of the car is impressive as well!
The picture showing the corridor with the shelves is too sharp IMHO, Iwould try to give it some DOF. Anyway, much bettter than everything I have been able to come up with...
I had a plugin- error in the movie- section of your webpage, any hints, what might have caused that?

06 June 2002, 01:37 PM
wow very very nice lighting and rendering...

and the others images on your web site is excellent !!!!

06 June 2002, 01:55 PM
Thanks for your comments ,

--> Sorry to disappoint you, but "The Ripper" and " The Black Tulip " are 2 differents persons.

Were're soon going to update our site '' and we'll clear up few points:

-Who we are.
-Where were are based.
-What are our projects.

- I know the "elevator" isn't a creative work but It's to improve my skills. I think it's important for my next work.

- When you want play guitar, how to draw or take photos , you must first learn the technics.

- That's exactly what I do .

06 June 2002, 02:00 PM
very kewl, love the lighting and texturing. lets see some more angles?!!!


06 June 2002, 02:23 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause:
Will you publish it as wallpaper 1280x1024? plz! Just to take time to watch it deeply...

06 June 2002, 02:25 PM
Holy Quality.

1600x1200 plz! Wallpapers would be nice.

edit: After reviewing the rest of your work, it'd be premature to say "Why aren't you working for a professional CG house?" Because you most likely already do. If not, you're either on a boat somewhere, or are a fool, because you can seriously be making a load of cash right now man! Props.

Tim Deneau
06 June 2002, 03:12 PM
Amazing attention to detail, I wouldn't be able to point out if it were real or a picture. Your website is impressive as well, hope to see more soon :)

Could we get a wireframe shot if it wasn't too much trouble? I'm sure it would look insane...

06 June 2002, 07:02 PM
it reminds me of the work buf compagnie did on fight club and panic room. it would be cool to see you do some impossible moving camera shots like the ones in those films. f'sheezy.

06 June 2002, 07:17 PM
some practical advice - don't change a thing. Purebrilliant that is.

06 June 2002, 07:44 PM
Amazing Render!

Very detailed and interesting. Found myself staring at it for minutes on end.... :thumbsup:


06 June 2002, 09:53 PM
Thanxxxxx guys ,

The car is really nice and made by " The Ripper" ...

I think render a really large image but not right now because I'm working on another think .

Maybe I could working in a professional CG house , But I'm afraid to take a boat ;) . ( If you have a good adress you can send me quickly , Thanks )

I like David Fincher, Tim Burton and Jean-Pičre Jeunet for their style and their great atmosphere.

I can't render the animation now because the render time is long and you can understand I need my pc for work but I have already few ideas for the motions camera.

06 June 2002, 11:56 AM
Very nice lighting set up. Nice surfacing job too.

06 June 2002, 01:00 PM
juste une remarque.... je n arrive pas a accedé a ton siteweb :(

je suis sur mac.. est ce que ca serai ca ?

06 June 2002, 01:45 PM

"Not bad at all! But there is room for improvement!" - as my boss says always... I hate it. Hope you too, but let stand here some 'building' critics. (NdRstood, building critics, hehe).

- The shadow what the 6 bolts cast are not enough sharp, as well as at the cables.
- The black cables on the floor are not laying on the floor. On the 1st picture it can't be seen, only on the 2nd ones. Maybe because of shadow (bias).
- Some kind of durt like sand or wall-pieces could work
- and some wallcracks without pieces of wall

I really like it, it reminds me to Matrix. A bit at least. :cool:

It's truly awesome!!!

06 June 2002, 04:35 PM
budpartytime:As I'm the one who's working on the website, could you tell me what browser you have? and do you have the flash 5.0 plugin installed on your computer?

xyth:Wow, you must be a real specialist about lightings, how do you for sure how soft shadows should be in this particular situation???.

What about showing some of your works to see how good you're about lighting techniques.

06 June 2002, 07:39 PM
Thanxxxxx for your critics ....

budpartytime : as tu bien installé les plugins de flash 5 ?
Quel browser utilises tu ?

xyth : If you are Hungarian you can understand this ,

-Nem vagyok benne biztos, hogy az ŕrynéknak éllesebnek kell lennie. Nézd a joboldali neont és a fényt amit a fall visszaver.

-A kŕbel hajlékonysŕga különbözö lehet.
Ennek ellenére köszönöm a figyelmesztetéseidet.

----> üdv The Black Tulip


06 June 2002, 09:59 PM
that's really cool

Ed Lee
06 June 2002, 08:00 AM
I gotta ask, and I know it's going to sound like I'm crediting the soft rather than the artist but I think the images is very well done, despite "weathering" and "wear and tear" textures...


06 June 2002, 04:44 PM
Awesome !!!

Reminds me the conematography of fight club and Panic room.

06 June 2002, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by THE BLACK TULIP
I like David Fincher, Tim Burton and Jean-Pičre Jeunet for their style and their great atmosphere.

Oooh I just saw this ,

You have great taste man ;) , you cant go wrong with those directors. Especially Jean-Piere Jeunet , City of lost children rules :thumbsup:

06 June 2002, 08:24 AM

The Ripper: the soft shadow wouldn't be a problem in itself. But I was guessing it should be sharper, because there is high specularity on that metal pillar where it is screwed to. But The Black Tulip pointed out it is illuminated by a neon tube.

The Black Tulip: Thanks for your hungarian words... Nice to see it on these pages. :) But still the wires... The black wires wires are not laying on the floor, where they are straight. Maybe they are, but the shadows are shifted towards the camera. Especially at the lower wire! Can you see that? Maybe the light bias is high (> 0.0 :))

But still amazing... :) Királyság!


06 June 2002, 01:09 PM
Thanks guys ,

I have divided the render time by 2 , you know how ?
With a new processor . Coooool no .

Ed Lee : Lightwave for the soft .

I have seen your work . Really cool .

xyth : Ok , I'm changing this right now . Thanxxxx for your remarks .

Peace .

06 June 2002, 02:04 PM
Hi artquantic!

My browser Mozilla can't see anything but a black window of 1024x768.
I use the plugin Shockwave Flash 6.0 r23
Am I forced to reinstall explorer of Bill?

06 June 2002, 03:58 PM
great image, great site - nothing more to say!!!:xtreme:

02 February 2003, 11:20 AM
Digging up some of the classics ;)

You have received the CGtalk choice award .Please feel free to display this image anywhere you like! Keep it up amazing work bud!

upon receiving this award, it guarantees you a spot in the cgtalk gallery hall of fame ( - which you are now placed

P.S. Please email me @ for the .psd file


02 February 2003, 12:41 PM
very cool!!

02 February 2003, 12:58 PM
mmm.... perfect :thumbsup:

02 February 2003, 06:28 PM
congrats for an excellent piece of art m8!

02 February 2003, 03:03 AM
Wow man! Great work! How long did this take you?

09 September 2004, 02:53 PM
Amazing work over amazing work over amazing work...
i think is brilliant how you develop your textures,and your lighting skills are great too.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

10 October 2004, 06:29 AM
hyper-realistic. great job on the textures and light.

07 July 2005, 01:28 PM
Great artwork.
Really impeccable.:thumbsup:

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