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01 January 2011, 01:26 PM
I submitted this image to the finished forum but got turned down because of low standard of work.

Looking over the piece I have to agree with the administratorís opinion. Key points i feel Iím failing on is the deck sheís standing on... sheís not grounded to it, any help there would be great. And if anyone can see faults please let me know.

Iíve been painting digitally now for around 4-5 years and Iím still learning and feel Iíve still a lot to learn to get myself to the standard i want to be at, and any help would be greatly appreciated.

Program used is Gimp; i also have Photoshop CS2 but very rarely use it.

Thanks in advance Jonny Marvel

01 January 2011, 12:29 AM
Not sure what happened there Jonny, but your previous painting had a much higher level of finish. The current version looks more like a sketch. Having a clear cut like at the arm doesn't really help either. ;)

01 January 2011, 01:25 PM
Start looking over the detail on the image after it got rejected and worked away at it, adding shadows and light and general beefing up of the image and removing the straight line of the railing in favour of something more organic. Itís still not there but itís getting there, my problem is the empty space at the bottom right of the picture.... it needs something but not sure what yet

There is actually allot of detail but it gets lost when shrunk of posting, hear close ups of the areas Iíve been working on at the moment.

01 January 2011, 04:50 PM
I love this crop. Very nice contrast and impressionism in here...

There's a very "stringy" look to the overall painting...the queen's hair looks like string, her staff has masses of string coming off it, the vines look kind of like string, the waves in the water even look like string, and the shadows in the folds of her dress do not look completely well planned out which makes some of the shadows kind of look like string as well. Most important is to fix the hair though.

The shading on the woman's backside looks somewhat inconsistent and this does not give the the impression of the proper shape, instead making it look lumpy.

I really like the satiny colors in her dress, but it doesn't look like you've taken enough care into designing where the folds are, and you've been too sloppy in drawing the folds. With some work I think this dress could be really good.

01 January 2011, 09:55 PM
thank you for your crits, I've been beefing the image up a bit and added some shading and lighting to the back but it still needs work.

01 January 2011, 12:17 AM
i think i'm done, but i'll happily take what ever crits you offer

01 January 2011, 12:33 AM
the background details and colors are only distracting
you also need to thing a bit more about her lighting

01 January 2011, 01:35 PM
maybe a bit more dramatic lighting on her and mybe a bit foreground framing too. I don't want to loose the bacround detail, but i might drop the saturation on the flowers.. and i've been playing around with a extra bit of wok that should bring mor attention to her.

But as always, thanks for the crits and the push to do better :)

01 January 2011, 02:30 PM
Creeto makes a good point. The background has a higher contrast ratio and level of detail, so it naturally attracts more attention than your main subject, the lady. If you don't want to loose detail in the background, best to up the foreground in value range and detail level.

Also remember the colour variations that happen naturally in human skin. This will increase colour range and make her skin more interesting to look at too. Areas like fingertips, palms, nose, cheeks, around the eyes tend to be more red for instance.

The setting sun seems to have no influence on the lady.

You also still have that hard cut between the upper arm and lower arm. And that stringy look as stu called it is still very present as well. Your previous lady at the lake work had it too, but it was less distracting due to the low key.

01 January 2011, 12:51 PM
this is the change i've been playing around with. i've also put more of a colour range to the skin.

I've got more to do to the water wrap, some loose droplets.
again let me know what you think.

01 January 2011, 11:15 PM
ok, the finished version is in my gallery,awaiting approval form the experts at cgs, cross fingers for me :)

01 January 2011, 10:44 PM
It got turned down again...... because its already posted........ but its not already posted..........any ideas what i do ??

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