View Full Version : LOTR TT : extended edition or not? And an opinion on the 1st extended dvd


TheGreenGiant
08 August 2003, 09:17 PM
Hello.

in the other LOTR thread about GOllum and posters, someone mentioned waiting for the extended TT dvd boxset ...

well, I picked up FOTR extended edition and I must say I didn't enjoy the film as much with the extended footage. It felt a lot more laboured and lengthy (it was). I also didn't feel as though the extra footage added a lot more to the film. The fact that the dvd had NO option to play the film sans additional footage was not a good thing imo. What do you guys think?

Well, the flick on DVD in about a week's time here and I was wondering if I should wait for the extended version. Any word on what sort of stuff you'll get with the extended DVD edition. The bookends that came with the first flick were nice although hardly essentials.

???
08 August 2003, 09:24 PM
I haven't saw the movie yet.. so i dont wanna wait till november.. cumon.. :shrug: i dont realy care about the extras/how do they make..gollum or whatever.. i NEED to see the movie !

slime
08 August 2003, 09:41 PM
The extended edition was great IMO. The details that were left in the normal version are not important for the plot, but beautiful, and helpful to know more abbout the inner side of the characters.

ambient-whisper
08 August 2003, 09:49 PM
heh. i also thought that the extra stuff on the extended made it much more closer to the book. a lot of subtle details here and there. i actually thought the theatrical completely paled in comparrison.

leigh
08 August 2003, 09:51 PM
I love the Extended edition as well, especially because of scenes like Galadriels gifts - little things that were special in the books :)
The statues that came in the set are awesome as well - I have them here on my desk. The Gollum statue that is coming with the TTT Extended edition Collectors set is going to be totally cool too - I can't wait!

I am going to buy both versions simply because I am a collector.

TheGreenGiant
08 August 2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Leigh
IThe Gollum statue that is coming with the TTT Extended edition Collectors set is going to be totally cool too - I can't wait!

SOLD!!! TGG = gollum whore.

Valkyrien
08 August 2003, 09:57 PM
Fellowship v2 ROCKS!!! Laboured and lengthy? Lengthy yes, laboured not on your life! The new scenes are damn good additions, and now i refuse to accept v1 as the full movie!

gah, all this heretical talk is making me dizzy...:surprised

Nikodemus
08 August 2003, 10:23 PM
i liked the exteded version bunches! loved the gift scene with Galadriel and the new hobbit town intro...
i cant wait for TT special edition ext footage dvds...
:wip:

LocoMan
08 August 2003, 10:30 PM
Most of what the FoTR extended edition added were things that weren't in the movie but were in the book. I guess the answer would be that extended editions are worth if you're a big fan of the books (at least IMHO).

There is one thing, though, in TTT, Frodo tells Gollum that he knows his real name, if you hadn't seen the extra scene with Frodo and Gandalf in the extended edition of FoTR, then you wouldn't have a clue of when did he learn that.... maybe they'll do something like that this time too... :)

JDex
08 August 2003, 10:48 PM
Extended edition all the way... I will likely rent or borrow the v1 release once or twice to keep me patient, but TTT EE is the only one truly worth owning, the other is just for collectors and suckers IMHO.

ambient-whisper
08 August 2003, 10:48 PM
even if you arent a fan of the books.. the extra 2-3 dvds that came with the extended edition were reason enough to get it. i mean hell.. theres like over 12 hours of bonus stuff on that, ranging from the digital stuff, music, filming, bigatures, costumes, gallery of concept art, the perspective stuff ( man did that ever freakin rule ) the weta workshop stuff, the compositing stuff,...and a hella more.. i cant find one reason why not to get that..

Vushvush
08 August 2003, 10:57 PM
Getting the 4 disc set is, as AW said, worth it for the extras alone. So much info you will go mad!

I have the FOTR extended edition, but I don't remember if there is the option to view the original version as we as the extended?

The extended FOTR, is, unfortunately, not as good as the theatrical. Honestly, while I liked seeing the extra scenes, and while they were informative and good on their own, disrupted the flow of the movie to an extent. If you see directors comment on cut scenes in other DVDs, often you'll hear them say they cut them cause they disrupted the pacing/flow of the movie. And since this IS a movie, not a book, I'm glad they did cut those scenes out.

So again, if I want to see the original, do I need to buy both, or does the extended include them all? I'd like to know now, and not have to wait a few hours before I get home to see for myself! :P

ambient-whisper
08 August 2003, 11:12 PM
actually they cut a lot of the scenes to make the "under 3 hour mark" not every single scene disrupted the flow. galadriels gifts disrupted nothing.. the extra few quick cuts at the end where boromnir fights makes the fight a lot more complete it seems.

the scene in the marshes when they were going toward rivendell added to the "journey" for such a long distance they travelled. in the theatrical it felt like they left the village and 2 second later they were at rivendell... also find out about aragorns mother from his song/explaination.

the only real moment i thought that disrupted the flow is where bilbo talks to frodo when the bagginses are trying to find him during the party..( that part was just badly done IMO ),.

i dunno. it just seemed like the theatrical was too much an action movie with very little story to it. "get ring from point a to b" ( where frodo was putting on the ring every 2 minutes ) while the extended fleshed out a lot of the characters out a lot more. showed us more of their life styles, etc.

slime
08 August 2003, 11:15 PM
Yup, the extras were amazing. Tee extended edition is worth it for the extras alone. absolutely. I had a fantastic time looking at them... :drool:

Vushvush
08 August 2003, 11:42 PM
That's your opinion.

I thought the song was not required, neither the gifts, as well as some others, mostly couldn't wait to get the **** out of the shire in the new version. I didn't dispute that getting more information and learning minor details about characters is nice and all, but if you look at it objectivly as a movie they were not needed. The key word being needed.

ambient-whisper
08 August 2003, 12:11 AM
well then if you talk about NEEDed scenes then all you technically need is like a few scenes.. you can skip all the ring wraith scenes since they dont add much ot the story at all. just have them in once and skip the rest, show gandalf going off with his horse but not where hes gone to, since it doesnt have too much from frodos/ring point of view, cut all the pan scenes ( gosh theres more than a few in there eh ;) ) cut the pub scene and just have aragorn go up to frodo and say "hey there laddie, nice shoes."
skip the party at the beginning. .. way too long. just have bilbo dissapear when gandalf shows up, and have gandalf go "wtf?!".
lothlorien. skip that too. just have galadriel give em her goods and let em be on their way. boat shots.. no need. just have em depart and arrive. lengthy fight at the end? nah. just rid of boromnir and let frodo go. im sure theres about 3 hours of fat in there.

hell. just give em a teleport ring and skip the entire movie. none of it is needed. just jump to the volcano scene and just end it. :D

( yes. i like the word "just" )

Joviex
08 August 2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by TheGreenGiant
Hello.

in the other LOTR thread about GOllum and posters, someone mentioned waiting for the extended TT dvd boxset ...

well, I picked up FOTR extended edition and I must say I didn't enjoy the film as much with the extended footage. It felt a lot more laboured and lengthy (it was). I also didn't feel as though the extra footage added a lot more to the film. The fact that the


Right, cause all that extra stuff in the book is stupid too, why couldn't they have just left us with a butchered version of a true classic? :surprised

Joviex
08 August 2003, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by Vushvush
That's your opinion.

I thought the song was not required, neither the gifts, as well as some others, mostly couldn't wait to get the **** out of the shire in the new version. I didn't dispute that getting more information

LOL!

That is funny, cause without the gifts, the story ends about 15 minutes into ROTK.

Vushvush
08 August 2003, 12:57 AM
LOL that is funny.

Both of you can stop being geeks about it, and be mature and objective.

Ambient, you know what I mean when I say need, and if that response is the best you can come up with ... well...:thumbsdow

And as far as the gifts, do you not think that seen will be used as a flashback and/or the scene in ROTK will be changed? You think they are going to put something in ROTK that only geeks that bought the extended DVD (including me :blush: ) saw?

Guys, we are supposed to be mature here, lets all think before we post! :thumbsup:

Valkyrien
08 August 2003, 01:11 AM
posting on a message board to call someone a geek. Now that makes sense...;)

and speaking of thinking before posting, maybe you should think before insulting a mod:surprised

TheGreenGiant
08 August 2003, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Vushvush
LOL that is funny.

Both of you can stop being geeks about it, and be mature and objective.

Ambient, you know what I mean when I say need, and if that response is the best you can come up with ... well...:thumbsdow

And as far as the gifts, do you not think that seen will be used as a flashback and/or the scene in ROTK will be changed? You think they are going to put something in ROTK that only geeks that bought the extended DVD (including me :blush: ) saw?

Guys, we are supposed to be mature here, lets all think before we post! :thumbsup:

dude, I wasn't going to say this but in this and the other thread about POSER, I've found your posts to be very anti-social and slanted. Just because someone else has a different point of you from you doesn't give you a right to start slagging them off. You suggested in that I don't speak/understand English.. and I didn't even bother responding. I did think "shit, this guy is a knob". I'm sure you're the difficult to please sort in real life. Could you please stop. Thanks.

Vushvush
08 August 2003, 01:18 AM
OK, this is the LAST time I repeat something for your benefit.

"posting on a message board to call someone a geek. Now that makes sense..."

And I wrote:

"that only geeks that bought the extended DVD (including me ) saw?"

Understand? Good.

And I'm not insulting the mod, I'm asking the mod to be more mature, as I know he can be, for my benefit as well as his own. If everyone here READs the post they respond to things will be really great.

Vushvush
08 August 2003, 01:20 AM
Nice to see you didn't bother to respond there, but chose to here. :thumbsup:

All I said to you, and again here is, read before you respond. It will make all these discussion much better!:applause:

JB
08 August 2003, 01:32 AM
I love the extended edition, it's the only version I watch anymore. :)

Valkyrien
08 August 2003, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Vushvush
And I'm not insulting the mod, I'm asking the mod to be more mature

ah, your maturity is a source of inspiration to us all:)

Vushvush
08 August 2003, 01:45 AM
That is, without a doubt, the most clever comeback I've ever seen! :applause:

TheGreenGiant
08 August 2003, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by Valkyrien
ah, your maturity is a source of inspiration to us all:)

lol. So true. I am enlightened.

slime
08 August 2003, 01:55 AM
Calm down, Vushvush! :shame:
I don't think only geeks bought the extended version. It's like saying only people interested in CG watched this movie.... :thumbsdow

peanuckle
08 August 2003, 01:57 AM
man i just buy both. I get the first one watch is a lot of time. Then a month or so later i buy the other with all the special stuff. It adds a lot more to the movie IMHO.

pea~

KingMob
08 August 2003, 03:18 AM
I actually agree those scenes were not needed, thats why theya re not in the theatrical version, but for those of who like the whole story the extended version is just great...its why I actually really like that they have 2 versions of the movie with different stuff.. not just a bunch of random cut scenes.

it's funny to watch you people argue about it cause in the end you are all right, and can all buty the version that appeals to you the most.

I know I will end up getting both..But i am a geek.

And proud of it.


:beer:

(by that I mean, int he spirit of the freak challenge, that I bite heads of chickens)

Walx
08 August 2003, 03:10 PM
I think that all scenes are needed since it's the director idea. PJ is doing this because he thinks the scenes where meant to be seen.

All in all, there will always be people who diss something because of their own taste regardless of the taste of others. I know people who didn't saw the movies...and they still don't want to and think it's a loss of time.

I'm a fan of the books, and I think I enjoyed every scenes added. particularly the scene in the bar with the song. ANd the Aragorn song. In the story they always sing, and many of them. it's not like a Disney song, just tell more of the inside story.

I would have liked to see Bombadil all joyfull and singing in strange verses and jumping around. many people may think it would be weird but I find the idea interesting. It would have added a fun part to the movie wich is sad and serious most of the time. In the book the adventure start in the wood and it's like an exercise for them, it's more slow, and also a sight of a great and powerful being and lady.
more length!:)

I will buy the extended version of TTT and same thing for the ROTK. I'm even considering the gift set for the gollum figure
:buttrock:

Mike RB
08 August 2003, 03:36 PM
Yeah? You guys thought the FOTR extended version changed too much? Just wait for the LOTR "Superpack" Extended Edition that comes out 8 months after ROTK is in theaters. It changes everything. At the council Gandalf brings up the idea that the Eagles can help, who had just saved him from Saruman. They Fly frodo from Rivendell to Mt. Doom... Then after 6 hours of flying they get right above Mt. Doom and the eagle, knowing frodo won't be able to just drop the ring in, tips both Sam and Frodo off his back into the fiery magma. Victory! This will be the version not to miss...

Mike

TheGreenGiant
08 August 2003, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by Mike RB
Yeah? You guys thought the FOTR extended version changed too much? Just wait for the LOTR "Superpack" Extended Edition that comes out 8 months after ROTK is in theaters. It changes everything. At the council Gandalf brings up the idea that the Eagles can help, who had just saved him from Saruman. They Fly frodo from Rivendell to Mt. Doom... Then after 6 hours of flying they get right above Mt. Doom and the eagle, knowing frodo won't be able to just drop the ring in, tips both Sam and Frodo off his back into the fiery magma. Victory! This will be the version not to miss...

Mike

are you serious? :scream: :D :surprised

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