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08 August 2003, 11:51 PM
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First paragraphs:

Action-Hungry DVD Fans Sway Hollywood
New York Times

Matthew Grossman, a 38-year-old schoolteacher in Toronto with a bulging collection of about 700 DVD's, enjoys movies of all kinds. But, when it comes to buying discs, he like many DVD owners gravitates to action-packed adventure films with plenty of special effects like "Die Hard" and "Terminator 2."

"You can really enjoy the impact of an action film on DVD, especially with a large screen and a powerful set of speakers," Mr. Grossman said. "And, you might want to watch it more than once. With a romantic comedy or something, you watch it and laugh and never look at it again."

Men like Mr. Grossman and it is men who are buying the most DVD's, studio executives say are an increasingly powerful influence on Hollywood. Home video sales accounted for more than 58 percent of Hollywood's income last year, more than twice as much as box-office revenues. Sales of DVD's to consumers are the biggest, most profitable and fastest-growing component of that revenue.

For studio executives, that means the home video market is no longer the afterthought it was when renting videotapes dominated the business. "It is becoming, in a lot of ways, the primary market in determining whether to green light a movie or not," said Chris McGuirk, vice chairman of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc.


So, if next year, we're wondering why movie audiences are choking on the same plot-driven, empty explosion/CG fests again... It's just as much our fault as it is Hollywood's! :surprised


Peter Reynolds
08 August 2003, 12:30 AM
Oh great, just what we need.

08 August 2003, 01:16 AM
And I bet the target audience also owns a healthy collection of porn on DVD too. . .. Why doesn't Hollywood tap into THAT market? :rolleyes:

08 August 2003, 01:21 AM
My collection is close to that guys :D

and not a single porn dvd :D

08 August 2003, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by Lunatique
And I bet the target audience also owns a healthy collection of porn on DVD too. . .. Why doesn't Hollywood tap into THAT market? :rolleyes:

Oh there's plenty of pron shoot in and around HoWo (Hollywood)..

08 August 2003, 01:47 AM
I love action flicks, I don't care!!!

08 August 2003, 02:09 AM
Yay, more mindless action to look forward to... Fcuk...

08 August 2003, 02:17 AM
And this is suprising in exactly what ways?

08 August 2003, 04:01 AM
becuase its in the news.

08 August 2003, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by amorano
And this is suprising in exactly what ways?

Well, in the past we've had threads here where folks command Hollywood to stop giving us empty crap because "we" don't want it anymore... This article, while in some ways obvious, does point out that Hollywood has every reason to continue because it's profiting very nicely off of crap. And, since this same group of consumers loves video games, we can expect more of those kinds of films... and so on.

But, it is also a lilttle surprising because many believe the teen market is the largest holy grail for marketing your movies. But, since a lot of teens just rip copies of DVDs off the web and the 20-something single guy is actually buying his, maybe teens aren't as hot anymore? Who knows?


08 August 2003, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by moovieboy
Well, in the past we've had threads here where folks command Hollywood to stop giving us empty crap because "we" don't want it anymore... This article, while in some ways obvious,

Yeah, but don't ya know, text messages and video game sales are what are driving Hollywood to give us crap, I mean

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08 August 2003, 07:09 AM
Yeah, yeah... lol :D


08 August 2003, 07:57 AM
What's wrong with porn and action flicks? It's like having a beer and pizza for dinner. Obviously wine and lobster would be much nicer, but you probably wouldn't appreciate it as much if you had it every day. The "mindless" Hollywood blockbusters statisy our craving for fast, easy fun and entertainment. Truly magnificent films are a treat, but they do take a bit longer to digest. Personally, I can apreciate a film like "Memento" (IMO one of the best films of the past few years) because it's a nice change of pace from the action and FX-laden blockbusters. Still, after a long day of work I'm grabbing the beer and pizza.

Frankly, it's a bit silly how so many folks just join the herd and bash every film that comes out because it's not some great masterpiece of cinema. You can't expect every film to break the mold or be "perfect" (whatever that means). The majority of films are intended to do nothing more than provide a quick escape of the daily doldrums. And most "mindless" Hollywood blockbusters are capable of doing that (provided you don't disillusion yourself into believing you are about to witness some sort of miraculous achievement in the art of filmmaking).

08 August 2003, 03:38 PM
If you eat shit every day and then somebody servers you stale, week-old pizza you'll say Hey, this pizza tastes really good!

My point is that these mindless "quick escapes" bring down the level of this whole industry/artform. As soon as a mediocre film appears you think it's the best film you've ever seen because you're so used to crap. Before film effects started taking over it used to be that B and C movies were a niche, they where not in the spot light. Now good movies, the so called "deep" movies where you're are actually required to pay just a little more attention are in the back, indy movies, played at select theaters.

For example just examine the dialog of most current movies, even the "serious dramas" and compare them to older movies. It's like people forgot how to communicate! Not sure why but writers before could actually captivate an audience, they where good, experienced writers. Now I have the impression that most scripts are written by computers.

Not even comparing the quality of dialog, but the amount, I think if you where to take the scripts of all movies made in say 70-73, count the words in those scripts, and compare that to the scripts from movies in 00-03 you would find a difference of at least 60-70%!

That's not normal. We are getting dumber in a way, speaking from an intellectual and spiritual point of view. Personally I don't want everything served up to me, I don't want everything shoved in my face, or ready made so I can just digest it and forget about it.

If you say action movies are supposed to be "dumb", then that's fine, I guess there's a place for them too. But there's no balance anymore.

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