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08-09-2003, 04:43 PM
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An editorial piece on censorship in America.

08-09-2003, 05:02 PM
very well done ::thumbsup:

08-09-2003, 05:52 PM
Thanks Simon

08-09-2003, 06:18 PM
Looks nice!:applause:

08-09-2003, 06:30 PM
Now that is interesting!:thumbsup:

08-09-2003, 06:38 PM
Love it:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

08-09-2003, 06:39 PM
Lovely work and a great theme to it....very clever and well thought out...the art is great too...a little flat in some places but that's just nitpicking...well done...:)

08-09-2003, 06:54 PM
Do u have a link to the editorial peice?

By the way im assuming something here .. that is that an editorial peice is a paper on censorship perhaps for a magazine or online journal?

Forgot to mention i like it. I think drawing cloth is soo hard and to do it as well as what you have here is a talent ...... awesome

08-09-2003, 06:54 PM
Thanks guys!!

08-09-2003, 06:57 PM
Yes, it is for a magazine...the story hasn't run yet. When it does....I'll post a link.


That Adrian Guy
08-09-2003, 06:59 PM
The color tones and saturations are great

The hair is amazing!

08-09-2003, 07:04 PM
Nice Job!


08-09-2003, 07:20 PM
Nice work, reminds me a lot fo the Muhammad Ali pic.

I'd definitely exagerate it by adding just a little more of a core shadow to his right side to match the intensity of the shadow underneath his head. As is the difference makes his body look too flat compared to his head.

good stuff tho

08-09-2003, 07:32 PM
Love it Phil.:applause:

08-09-2003, 07:41 PM
That really gets my juices going,what a provocative piece!
I am inspired to create something hhmmmmmm.:applause:

I think you should make him look sweaty so as to convey that not only is there a "struggle" but that there is also a "fight" being faught, I am in no means taking away from this amazing piece and mean absolutley no dis-respect, but I thought you might like to hear some constructive praise.

And again! amazing job!


08-09-2003, 07:45 PM
Stunning! It looks like a photograph but it is so much more vivid and smooth. Excellent work! :applause:

08-09-2003, 07:48 PM
ekk :eek: , he looks really real :thumbsup:

08-09-2003, 08:07 PM
Good use of the symbol.
And great craftsmanship

08-09-2003, 08:20 PM
Great piece of art man, very well thought, it realy gets the idea through.

08-09-2003, 08:41 PM
Very nice craftsmanship. Not so impressed with the outdated theme. Might have worked if it was 50 years ago.

08-09-2003, 08:46 PM

08-09-2003, 08:53 PM
Hi friend thats nice work. Very well done! :thumbsup:

08-09-2003, 08:58 PM
hair very realistic :buttrock:

08-09-2003, 09:01 PM
Nice piece. I like the pinup/painterly look it has to it.

However there seems to be something odd going on with the right upper arm, if you compare it to the shoulder and the lower arm, it appears to be somewhat inflated.

All in all a nice piece.

08-09-2003, 09:27 PM
Thanks for the front page post!

jud: great idea on the sweat and struggle thing.

Thanks for all your comments guys!

08-09-2003, 09:56 PM
Beutiful image, and I love the message as well.

08-09-2003, 10:18 PM
Great art work really impressive stuff.

08-09-2003, 10:52 PM
very nice man

i liked it....
no words
:applause: :thumbsup:

08-09-2003, 11:02 PM
Great job man; do you have a website with some more images?

08-09-2003, 11:12 PM
Very VERY nice, and most derserving of the front page I feel.

08-09-2003, 11:35 PM
absolutly wonderfull

That Adrian Guy
08-09-2003, 11:55 PM
So... how was this made?

IS this really oils?

It looks... too real.

but it still kicks ass :scream:

08-10-2003, 12:00 AM
Yep, Straub kicks butt - he's also an Elite over on GFXartist.

Here's the link to his personal site:
PhillipStraub (http://www.philipstraub.com/)

08-10-2003, 12:01 AM
Fantastic piece of art man !
I looked your website, it's such a great and interesting work you done, particulary about design and illustrations, i like the style.

:buttrock: :buttrock:

08-10-2003, 12:47 AM
I hardly ever post cos Im lazy but this one really demands it!!! Im a graphic designer myself and this peice is not only done well but the subject and the way you have portrayed it are simply stunning, however I would agree with Joe, some sweat and signs of strugle would convey your message better. None the less, its really unbeleivable. Gimme some of your talent dude!!!

08-10-2003, 01:09 AM
Great ART!

08-10-2003, 03:01 AM
absolutely beautiful. perhaps I would have a suggestion about composition though, just to make it more effective emotionally. to put the character in a corner of the composition, with nothing in the rest of the place, making him look like a completely ignored voice, would be great. obviously the black could be changed to something, a "dirty" industrial colour or something like that. but the character himself. man. beautiful...

08-10-2003, 03:27 AM
I wish this image could go on the front page of every American newspaper. Speaks volumes about the demise of reportage and the insular nature of their media. Congratulations.

08-10-2003, 08:33 AM
Oh :( after reading all these great posts on how good this image is. The picture isn't loading for me :hmm:

08-10-2003, 09:29 AM
damn....dead link

08-10-2003, 11:21 AM
Must have been censored. ;)

08-10-2003, 12:18 PM
Exceptional. The light is fantastic, especially on the hair.

Ex Tessera
08-10-2003, 12:43 PM
Didn't you read the CGtalk rules? Check out article 9a. I quote:

No inciting rebellion against our glorious masters

Yes, that was a joke

Actually, I'm not able to see it, it seems to be down. Anybody got a mirror?

J. Epp (Moksha)
08-10-2003, 01:51 PM
I Think it's o.k. Nothing real deep meaning. Just some guy wrapped in a flag.

Beautifully painted.

A more controversial image could be shown with a women wrapped in an afgan robe, but the robe is an american flag. Yikes.

ivo D
08-10-2003, 02:40 PM
it looks wonderfull!!!!!

ive read soemonese comment about some flat parts..

i only think you have to make some brighter spots on his shoulder.. and than its even better.. but it rocks allready!!

could be a great nofx cover -war on errorism hehe

08-10-2003, 02:46 PM
anybody going to model this?

08-10-2003, 03:52 PM
Thanks again for all the comments.

Meats: you the man!...thanks for the props. I'm gonna e-mail you and see what you decided.

That adrian Guy: It would be a bit difficult for me to give a detailed explanation of how I mad this image on the forum. However, I am working on some tutorials for my website so please check back there and I may have something up.

A quick explanation is as follows.

1. Some sketches
2. full value charcoal study
3. Reference (from life and photo's)
4. color study
5. Gesso bainbridge # 172 illustration board in a mid value gray with foam brush until completely smooth (value is defined by the overall tone of piece)
6. Tight value drawing on gessoed board with 9h pencil and white charcoal
7.Seal drawing on board with crystal clear
8. Value and hue underpainting with acrylics
9.oil paints (nearly all in one shot (alla prima). I usually work in one section at a time...meaning...I'll do the whole body. Then do the background and flag...making sure I can soften the edges of each object where they need it.

08-10-2003, 06:21 PM

I don't agree with the statement the guy should have sweat dripping off him and showing more tension and such. The image works as a simbol, it's suggestive of the Founding Fathers paintings done in the style of old masters, with its orange golden hues of lighting, and as such I think it would be spoilt by more realism. Focus on the message not the messenger here. Don't gild the lilly, as they say.

08-10-2003, 06:23 PM
very well done drawing. i like it alot.
to bad the idea is somewhat bullshit, but then again, so is the censorship in america.. damn all those hypocrites.

08-10-2003, 06:24 PM
W O W this is good ...... very powerful image. Excellent work :beer:

08-10-2003, 06:57 PM
great lighting and technique !
... think the approach of the subject is a bit easy though

08-10-2003, 07:07 PM
Awesome, I love it.
Originally posted by MarkCurtis
... the outdated theme. Might have worked if it was 50 years ago.

Man, I disagree...If you think this isn't as relavent now than ever then you need to wake up ;).

08-10-2003, 09:08 PM
Thanks alot for this piece. Awesome ...

08-10-2003, 09:47 PM
tooncinatore: I think its very relevant...if you've read the patriot act then you definetly have to feel a little uneasy about where are government's going. Too each his own though

08-11-2003, 12:13 AM
I'm with those who appreciate the artistry, but who totally disagree with the message. I won't go into why I disagree (to prevent flaming) and I guess it doesn't matter much anyway. You can say whatever you want with your painting.

Anyway, the artistry on the piece really is marvelous, especially the peach-fuzz on the head, which I like a lot. Don't add sweat, like some suggested, because this guy's pose is obviously one of submission, and so either he'd have just given up on fighting, or he'd be sitting in a sauna. There would be no point, unless you were going to paint a totally new pose (which I imagine you're not, eh?). The image might do well with a more interesting background, rather than just pitch black. That's my only comment.

(extreme-reform republican)

08-11-2003, 12:32 AM
Very nice indeed! I love it:)

btw your location says West Hartford...I don't suppose you're at the UHA Art School?

08-11-2003, 01:03 AM
Valkyrien: No I'm not at UHA art school...I've heard good things abou the program though. Are you there?

I worked at a division of Vivendi Universal Games up until a couple of months ago when they closed us down. The company was located in Canton...a small town outside of Hartford.

08-11-2003, 01:22 AM
great in all the parts.
i like everything in the piece. idea. drawing and composition
the subject so great
the drawing is really well done. i really like the fact he's not sweating or anything.
i also like the pure black background.

great job.

08-11-2003, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by Philipstraub
Valkyrien: No I'm not at UHA art school...I've heard good things abou the program though. Are you there?

the program itself is good from what I hear. i have friends in it who like it and it produces some damn fine artists. The school as a whole is overpriced by a lot though. I'm actually a Drama major in the A&S school there.

08-11-2003, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by Philipstraub
tooncinatore: I think its very relevant...if you've read the patriot act then you definetly have to feel a little uneasy about where are government's going. Too each his own though
Lol no man I completely agree with you...I've read the scary parts of the patriot act (read: the whole thing). I was disagreeing with the guy I quoted


once again i love the picture =D

08-11-2003, 06:59 AM
its been said that a picture=1000 words...this is far from an exception,you could probably right an entire article,hell a book based on the meaning of the picture.
as for the revilence of it,as a neighbour to the north (ie.Canada) i say it certainly is.
..it seems almost like the man in the painting has accepted his situation..sort of like a man who has been in shackles for a while,just finally gives up fighting.
as for the artwork it self...Philipstraub im sure with this skill you coulda done something without meaning and still had it kick ass
-props- :thumbsup:

08-11-2003, 08:49 AM
great job

08-11-2003, 11:13 AM
oh Phil!:scream:
This is some great artwork!
:eek: :eek:

You got more??

08-11-2003, 02:28 PM
:p Tooncinatore: Funny ..I was agreeing with you agreeing with me. Sorry I wasn't clear in my explanation...thank so much for the kind words.

lindavanbruggen: Thank you...I have a lot more...I'll post one now. A little bit different style

08-18-2003, 12:14 AM

08-18-2003, 12:23 AM
hi, this is the best oil pic i ever seen from the realistic effect!!!! i paint with oil too...but that::.ah stoke very perfect!:eek: :thumbsup: :love:


08-18-2003, 05:01 AM
Fantastic job, looks very good, almost makes me want to start painting.....

Sadly, people in america have no idea how good they actually have it! Bread lines and dictators would help them appreciate things!:rolleyes:

08-19-2003, 06:48 PM
that's a great illustration for this kind of theme...
luv it :thumbsup:

08-19-2003, 07:02 PM
thanks guys!

08-21-2003, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Philipstraub
Thanks Simon

No, we have to say 'Thanks Philip' !
That artwork says more than a human beeing in his whole life!

One for your work :thumbsup: and one for the american censorship :thumbsdow

08-22-2003, 06:40 AM
Philip, your art works awllays amaze me! So excellent it is!
I like oil painting very much, but I am not good at it?:blush:
and ......Will u post more your artwork here? :drool:

08-23-2003, 12:03 AM
You know that saying "A picture says a thousand words" well you've done it here Philip. It's thought provoking and says alot about the american culture or the influence there of if you will on others. Aside from the excellent message here the art and composition are first class. Excellent colors and shading. The one thing that I would've liked to see different is if the image wasn't dead center, but you've done really well here.

You have received the CGtalk choice award .Please feel free to display this image anywhere you like! Excellent work!

upon receiving this award, it guarantees you a spot in the cgtalk gallery hall of fame (http://gallery.cgtalk.com) - which you are now placed


P.S. Please email me @ tito@cgnetworks.com so I can send you the award .psd file


08-23-2003, 02:24 AM
agreed lildragon...sometimes I just can't resist the iconic composition...it calls to me.

10-04-2003, 04:01 AM
As usual Phil, your stuff looks aaaaaahw-some.
Your Pal

10-04-2003, 08:55 PM
your pictures keep crossing my way more and more.
Very lovely style you have. Keep it up!:applause: :applause: :applause:

10-15-2003, 04:12 AM
Interesting work, :D

03-15-2005, 05:19 AM
Wow! Impressive work!! I dig the use of the American flag. This picture speaks volumes.

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