View Full Version : Character: Slave Children for Sale - Get 'em while they're fresh

07 July 2003, 04:59 PM
This is a villain I'm working on. Haven't got a name for him yet, maybe "Something Van Weazle", I reckon. But he kidnaps homeless children and sells them as slaves (well, the ones who survive anyway)!

There was no real inspiration for the character, but he kind of developed from a crude doodle I did last week. I'm in the process of painting him in my spare time, and thought I'd fish for some feedback on the outline sketch - so here it is:

and some closer detail:

All comments welcome, cheers.

07 July 2003, 04:31 AM
very evil charater, kind of remind me of the mad hatter from Alice in Wonderland.

07 July 2003, 09:57 AM
Yeh, my girlfriend said he reminded her of Willy Wonka!!

07 July 2003, 10:04 AM
heehee, so are you going to colour it?
would love to see the paint version.

07 July 2003, 10:12 AM
Wow, I love the idea:eek: Will you colour it??
Can't wait to see it coloured! :thumbsup:

07 July 2003, 10:57 AM
Yeh, I'm painting it every spare minute I get. I love rich coloured work, so he'll be dark, but flambouyant!!:D

07 July 2003, 09:03 PM
Reminds me of the children catcher from "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" I used to have nightmares about that guy..L

07 July 2003, 01:16 AM
Awesome! Excellent. I love the character design, I'd like to see it colored also.

07 July 2003, 02:17 AM
gun doesn't seem to fit, but its still very good looking :D

07 July 2003, 03:07 AM
what BiTMAP say might be true, since the theme is like old english time (18 century) maybe you should give it an old fashion priate gun.

07 July 2003, 03:31 PM
Hmmm, good point, BiTMAP. I wrestled with that myself for a while. Maybe a musket or something?

It wasn't actually a deliberately period piece - I'd always envisioned his clothes sharply coloured like a stereotypical pimp - someone whose made a lot of cash very quickly, but hasn't the taste or "cultural capital" to put it to good use. Like on old fashioned gangster, he feels that by dressing in style, he somehow elevates himself above his crimes.

I saw him as a kind of post-apocalyptic vagabond who carries his wealth with him in order to protect it. In films like mad max, I loved the fact that the villians carried everything they scavenged with them like nomads. I was aiming for a similar theme, I think, but with a distinctly British lilt.

I tried to use more modern imagery to give him a more contemporary feel - the flaming high-heeled platforms, feathers in his hat and the futuristic gun. Maybe a leopard-skin trim on his coat would do the trick?

I'm a bit uncomfortable with the idea of painting a period picture, since all the nerds come out of the woodwork pointing out every historical inaccuracy!!!!

One thing Willy Wonka, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and Wonderland all have in common is that they're all in their own little worlds where anything can happen!! I find that really appealing!:D

07 July 2003, 03:45 PM
Okay, I decided to ditch the kids. The character and his pose are strong on their own, but the children weaken the composition, so here's the new outline I'm working from:
I'll be posting some colour work shortly. Any thoughts in the meantime?:wip:

07 July 2003, 10:02 AM
looking good man, what kind of colouring acheme are you going to give him?

07 July 2003, 11:17 AM
I'm not sure. I've block-coloured him a couple of times now, once in hot colours (Leopard skin lapels, burgundy coat and hat, with dark brown wastecoat etc), and once in more esoteric colours (purples, reds and blues). I prefer the reds, yellows and oranges I think - makes him look more dynamic and dangerous.

I always find it a challenge to get enough variety to make the picture interesting, but keep the pallette limited enough to hold the image together and create the right mood.

Any suggestions?

08 August 2003, 11:14 PM
Okay, I've block-coloured him. I tried lots of different schemes, and I'm finally pretty happy with him now - though once he's finished I'll tweak his Hue/Saturation levels a bit.
This will change a lot. Shading and detail to be added first, then lighting and shadow. See my game icon entry ( to see an example of how it might develop.:wip:

08 August 2003, 02:44 AM
it look great, but the bright colours does not match, he look more like a evil clown right now.
the gun should be a bit more shiny, as its too dark to be notice.

08 August 2003, 07:04 AM
I prefer his costume were coloured with balck and red instead red and orange. Just prefer....

08 August 2003, 06:06 PM
Like I said, it will change a lot. This is a very early stage.
He's a colourful character. I don't want him to be dark and dingy - I want him to be loud and dangerous. The orange will be leopard skin - it won't stay orange for long.

08 August 2003, 10:26 PM
Here's a little of the shading so far. I'll be tweaking hue and saturation levels later on, once the whole thing's shaded.

08 August 2003, 05:16 PM
Okay, a bit more shading done. Still the gun to go, then fix the colours and add shadows, lighting and bounced colour.
Thoughts, anyone?:wip:

08 August 2003, 07:45 AM
its looking breat, keep the good work up :thumbsup: :applause:

08 August 2003, 10:49 AM
Hi, I finished the painting and have posted it in the Gallery forum:


08 August 2003, 11:56 AM
Hm... when I first saw your sketch I didn't like it much.
But coming back and seeing it coloured, I have to say you did a pretty good job here.
Very nice rendering :thumbsup:
I think it might even look better if you would change the green hair to red/orange, and keep the whole piece in warm colours.

08 August 2003, 12:42 PM
Thanks, jeroentje. Glad you liked it in the end:)
I agree with you in a way, and I did try bright red-orange hair in earlier drafts, but in the end the green won out. The reason for this is because he's clearly mad. He needed something that created some kind of discord, particularly around face area and those mad eyes of his.

It's a point of focus which makes you feel uncomfortable looking him in the face. Without this discord he just looked quite friendly. Thanks for the feedback!!:thumbsup:

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