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03 March 2009, 06:33 PM
Name: Zemheri (means "the coldest part of winter")
Race: Demon
Class: Demon Lord
Element: Ice/Cold
Mount: Walking Mountain


Please check my latest post in this thread for descriptions.

End of latest update

As the people who had seen it and survived told,
"It started with just a cool wind, then in seconds it turned into a deadly blizzard. First only some of us heard strange noises of breaking ice continuously. After a while ground was shaking, we all were hearing the sound of ice,.., and a screaming man.. his desperate voice full of fear and pain. After a minute, we could see the man.., he was absorbed in it.., a walking mountain.. of ice..."

More details will come soon..

Have a nice war everybody, cheers!

03 March 2009, 10:28 PM
here's my first sketches of what i have in my mind.

It's a scout. has two forms: sphere and humanoidish. travels and attacks if needed in sphere form. has a pet two explore plain areas instead of exploring himself. please tell me what you think.

03 March 2009, 10:52 PM
hey dude i like the direction u r taking , splinter cell style :D , anyway good luck , its gonna be fun , alot of people are in , so i think we r going to see some great stuff , cya :buttrock:

03 March 2009, 11:54 AM
that chopper thing on his back looks great for making mincemeat out of bad guys :applause:

03 March 2009, 12:16 PM
except some changes on this one i think i won't change race or class. i'm happy with the progress. tell me what you think please?

03 March 2009, 12:19 PM
that chopper thing on his back looks great for making mincemeat out of bad guys :applause:

lol thanks :D it would be good but those wing-like parts have no use, just for transformation. thanks anyway :D

03 March 2009, 02:16 PM
hi again,
i tried some other concepts (not much) and i think demon (D in the sketch below) will be the race i'm going to work on.

Story about demon concept (D):
Nobody knows his name, they call him just "iceberg". everytime they ask him his name he says a different one. Because everytime another head speaks for him. He has no head or face. Only thing he desires is water, just because of that he feeds with everything that has water in their body or water itself. Bodies that he devoured are his face/s now. He can talk, order, command but when he speaks, shouts or screams he has the emotion of talking head in his voice, that makes him more incomprehensible, confusing and scary.

His body is all ice and it's color is pale red since he's fed with blood. He uses bottom of his body to devour victims. And moves on hands. That's all for now.

All comments are welcome!

03 March 2009, 02:34 PM
The ice demon idea has lots of possibilities. Love the frozen dudes inside! It's a good and challenging idea to have fun with.

03 March 2009, 06:05 PM
I like the Ice demon idea too. it has a very otherworldly feel to it.

03 March 2009, 07:49 PM
still working on the same demon concept. trying different body shapes and sizes.
which one is better, or how should it look? what do you think?

03 March 2009, 12:06 AM
you have a lot to build on with that initial idea, I like where its going. keep it coming!
just to keep in mind, I think ice will be very challenging to illustrate, not that its bad, just to count the cost before you get started. you can do it!

03 March 2009, 04:25 AM
artistcg: thanks!
live2contage: thanks a lot! i know, drawing ice will be challenging and funny. next thing i'm going to do is coloring those sketches, hoping it works.
GaeasHerald: thanks!
Chachi: thank you!

see you soon with some color sketches :D

03 March 2009, 01:37 PM
I also think that Icy Demon has lots of chance as orginality of concept. It's going well so far..
Keep it up :)

03 March 2009, 01:56 PM
Hey! :) I love "A", skip the others lol, all those arms and hands ooh its so lovely. I really like the siluette, I'm not sure how you're planing on doing the ice and stuff should be interesting to see. I hope you work it out somehow, without eyes and face you might still need some kind of focal point in its place. Im curious if the arms are ice as well? Might be a challenge to convince people it's able to move without braking.. It'll be interesting to see how you solve things. Looking forward to your progress. Hope you further this one, in my opinion it's far more interesting than anything else in your thread. Keep it up!


03 March 2009, 02:18 PM
APD-Jack: thanks! šok sağol :)
FrozZT: i exactly have that problem about moving. i liked the one with walking hands but they must be ice too, then i guess they won't be as good as fleshy hands. that's why i'm trying more human shaped demons. i'll try to solve it. thanks a lot!

just testing demon in action.

03 March 2009, 02:23 PM
Greak sketches. :thumbsup:

Keep it up:beer:

03 March 2009, 06:43 PM
a little different concept and best solution for walking i think. it's ice, it has to break :D

03 March 2009, 08:19 PM
this is going an interesting approach.

i'd love to see some other scribbles of those silhouettes developed, but the walking mountain is cool already :)

03 March 2009, 08:33 PM
Looking tight and solid Ersin :)

Concept built on it is very exceptional. I think both concepts are very nice :D

Keep it coming! :D

03 March 2009, 08:42 PM

The Idea is great and very unique! I really hope you get this into your final piece. The sketches also looks very promissing. I will have an eye on this thread.

so long

03 March 2009, 09:44 AM
thanks a lot guys!

i think this is my final concept for "walking mountain" creature. added arms which he can use for catching enemies or whatever he wants to do. arms work like legs.

horns on the neck are remains of used arms.

and of course he walks (very slowly) with a blizzard around him, freezes and slows enemies.

what do you think, should i go on with this concept or does it need more details?

all comments are welcome..

03 March 2009, 04:43 PM
Walking mountain concept in action. Next Step is colouring.

03 March 2009, 10:22 AM
really nice update I love the idea of the massive character, I cant wait to see some details

03 March 2009, 12:25 PM
hey Ersin, you have a really nice perspective in your last update.
good luck

03 March 2009, 02:31 PM
kmanning, Mraaflaub; thanks a lot for your comments!

trying to find true colours and textures for ice. here's first try..

03 March 2009, 02:55 PM
woah! great concept.. the story is very interesting, the pet design is awesome..
for the main ICEBERG, i personally liked the two hand and leg version as for the other version with multiple legs it is having a slight resemblence to Stegosaurus..

as for the breaking of ice during movement, i think he can quickly regenerate those areas constantly as he moves, new ice particles constantly forming shapes.. so when in motion his silouhette constantly changes around the edges, great going! waiting for updates..

03 March 2009, 03:14 PM
namnocilis: thanks very much! sorry but which two-hands-and-legs did you mean?
i was trying to keep it away from human shape, because story doesn't have any reason to make it human-like. otherwise then it looked like dinosaur :/ i think it always has to look like something.

03 March 2009, 03:18 PM
hehe.. thats true, btw i meant the sketches B and C on the first page..

03 March 2009, 04:04 PM
Strange and a bit funny concept you have :) I like it. A walking mountain seems to be a very hard enemy to beat.

03 March 2009, 03:00 AM
hi, u got a very unique concept here, wish to see more development.

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03 March 2009, 08:25 AM
Thanks for commenting in my thread!

Cool concept man (no pun intended).

I like the passive kind of aggression you seem to portray him as having, but don't really get a menacing feel from him. Is that intentional?

As a demon I'd expect more of a cruel atmosphere to be given with him.

One of your previous concepts showed a human face frozen into the mountain, maybe you could show a rendering that has body parts, face, bodies, and the like frozen onto it and in it and visible. That'd be cool!

03 March 2009, 08:39 AM
Very nice! Good luck!

03 March 2009, 01:50 PM
MartinNielsen: thank you! that's what i'm planning to do. An unbeatable and a little stupid demon :D

DerrickSong: thanks!

Sepulverture: thanks a lot! it's not going to be a demon that wants to kill everyone with anger. only thing it wants is water (also blood in their body), so it just wants to feed.
as you said, there will be many bodies, armors, weapons in it's ice body that belongs to it's victims. screaming face is one of these things. demon uses it to see, and speak if needed. but when it's not speaking that head screams with pain and fear. it's going to be frightening as merciless death instead of being menacing.

adib: thanks!

03 March 2009, 12:07 AM
Hi! Its starting to take shape! Keep pushing! I did like the arms better in your first sketch that i commented on, it had a really nice surreal feel. Now the entire figure is more of the same all over with all the ice.. I would simply make some dark freakin hands like you had them in the first one and work them into the ice somehow maybe the ice is laying on top like a shell of another structure underneath or blend it into the ice gradually. Its all up to you of course, do whatever you feel like doing. If this direction you're having feels right, go for it! Keep it up!


03 March 2009, 04:27 AM
That's a cool description you have of what you're aiming for with your demon. As mentioned before I like this feeling of passive menace and I think it will be a great concept when fleshed out more.

03 March 2009, 06:47 PM
FrozZT: Thanks man! I'm still not sure which one will be the best; human-like iceman, walking mountain or the one you mentioned. :I

Sepulverture: Thanks a lot!

Hi all again!
I'm changing walking ice mountain concept a bit. i decided to use a pet, but pet (1/2 human sized) and screaming human head (that mountain uses to see) has to be seen easily, so mountains size must be decreased. but a small mountain is not a mountain anymore, i lost the frightening feel a lot. i have no idea how to solve it yet :/

But actual thing i want to mention is: As you can see below, the pet is a little demon. The story about him is that he is fooling iceman with a promise that he will take it (iceman) to the ocean (endless water). Iceman does everything he wants to have all the water, and little demon gets power and shiny armors and weapons. Unless he uses iceman, little demon has no power more than a dog.
Now the question is: Does this little demon possess the situation to be a pet?

Pet (Little Demon)

Iceman with his pet (i don't like this one)

final scene test for walking mountain

thanks for looking!

04 April 2009, 02:00 PM
Hey there. Haven't seen you posting much lately. The concept is taking shape nicely, lets see some more!

04 April 2009, 12:17 PM
Sepulverture: Thanks for remembering me :D i just had no new idea on this concept till today, but now i have!

Hi all again. The image below is probably the final shape of my demon. I'll post more images soon to tell everything. See you in the next post, all comments are welcome as always.

Now let's comment on some other works!

04 April 2009, 06:13 PM
This is really good! simple and powerful! btw.. what is that coin kind of thing stuck in that demon? seems like something of importance especially because u have coloured it gold.. is it the DW CGS logo? Great going! :thumbsup: keep updating.. will inspire many more like me :)

04 April 2009, 12:04 PM
namnocilis: thanks a lot! yes it's my solution for placing cgs logo on the demon, :P. it's hard to place something on moving ice.

here's the image of screaming head in my mind. it must be looking frightened, i hope it is.

next image is going to be about the pet. see you then..

04 April 2009, 04:40 PM
Take care to keep violence to a minimum limit ;)

Nice idea to show the proportions of your demon.

04 April 2009, 06:13 PM
love the concept...^^
but maybe more personality on the pet??

04 April 2009, 07:50 PM
I like it better as a walking mountain rather than an iceman. These last two sketches are great.
As for the other demon, if you really want to include him it would probably work better if he were the main character and the ice creature were his pet (reversing the master/servant relationship). With that idea in mind, making him more pathetic (weak, fat, small, old or sth) would emphasize the deceit and manipulation and add a little spice to the concept.
My two cents :thumbsup:

04 April 2009, 10:23 PM
to get the real feel of horror and agony I think you could have several people jutting our and yelling in pain. If your going for a daemon, you going to need more that some how.
But besides that your doing great, and the more you push the more you'll get, big hug bro!

04 April 2009, 10:08 AM
hi, new update here.

DeadInTheAttic: Thanks!
questionmarks: Thanks. You're right, first i thought some humor could make it funnier but then it was less serious for war. Now walking mountain is the mount of ice master which is going to be actual character.
GaeasHerald: Thank you! also thanks for the advice, it seems i'm using the way you mentioned now :)
live2contage: Thanks a lot! Since i've decided to make walking mountain bigger, there'll be more victims that it uses and more victims screaming :P thanks for your advice!

Changed concept again. Walking mountain is now the mount. And there is an Ice Master (Zemheri) in the concept as my main character. WIP below contains both, Zemheri and his mount Walking Mountain. I'm going to post a close and detailed shot of main character later today.

Thanks for stopping by! Also all comments and critiques are valuable for me! You can say "it's bad!", of course with reason :P

04 April 2009, 02:17 PM
i'm not sure which way i'll go. main character + mount, or just main character. both have good parts that i like but they don't look good together :/

anyways, i will use this one for final illustration. i'm going to decide what to add or remove while painting the final.

here's latest update..

04 April 2009, 04:20 PM
I like a lot the freezed human going in front. Its a very nice touch.
You are doing it very good.
keep it up:beer:

04 April 2009, 04:59 PM
Great concept man!

I love how far you pushed the ice theme. When i thought of an ice demon, the idea of a big nasty demon with some kinda ice weapon popped in mind, but this is much more inspired and executed very well.

I would definitely keep the mount. The mount with the bodies inside make the demon on top look much more "all powerful".

Cant wait to see the final! :)

04 April 2009, 07:01 PM
Cool design ersinerturk, I can't wait to see which one you choose.

04 April 2009, 06:50 PM
I love this concept, great work so far.

04 April 2009, 11:26 AM
Thanks a lot guys!
Here's my recent update. i think i must get fast from now on.

04 April 2009, 09:31 PM
hey cool ideas. I would personally go for the new character your working, the other one is a little impersonal put more imposing, there both good, so you decide, great going, hope to see the mold sheets soon, all the best :D

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