View Full Version : What Lies Beneath - VFX Challenge - Victor Throe EvilAsSin - Gepetto & Son

victor throe
06 June 2003, 07:37 PM
finally get to start this challenge tonight

it has to be finished by sunday night though because the next job starts.

ah well


Gepetto & Son

06 June 2003, 01:37 AM
Gepetto & Son

hehe... can't wait to see the results. Good luck!!! :beer:

victor throe
06 June 2003, 11:56 PM

would love some feedback on it

850k divx
or 10mb quicktime

victor throe
07 July 2003, 09:42 AM
no comments?

victor throe
07 July 2003, 09:55 AM
step one

i only produced 1 sketch...didnt give myself alot of time so it was just to confirm what i wanted to build

victor throe
07 July 2003, 11:54 AM
step 2

shoot the action

the auto exposure made it look really 'crap' but i thought id leave it rather than re doing it as it would make the compositing a bit more interesting

victor throe
07 July 2003, 11:55 AM
step 3

shoot the plate

victor throe
07 July 2003, 11:59 AM
step 4

shot a bit of reference footage of a metal item

victor throe
07 July 2003, 12:01 PM
step 5

shot some footage of a shadow for reference

victor throe
07 July 2003, 12:09 PM
step 6

i took a load of measurements from the cupboard
and the distance from the lens and rebuilt a very simple version of it it the 3d package

aligned everything up according to my measurements....made a few adjustments because i didnt do it very accurately and applied the plate footage to the objects as a camera map

victor throe
07 July 2003, 12:12 PM
step 7

build the robot

basic box modelling

give it the basic for the texture but allowed for tweaking once id put it in the scene

victor throe
07 July 2003, 12:16 PM
here is a test render

victor throe
07 July 2003, 12:21 PM
here is dave rendered

against action and against black

victor throe
07 July 2003, 12:27 PM
here are daves elements

i rendered the eyes out seperately to get the glow in post

victor throe
07 July 2003, 12:29 PM
i didnt really do alot in post

added a little noise to match the grainyness of the dv footage

blurred a little

fixed a couple of errors i made in the render

then roto'd out the live action person

technical info:

footage shot on a canon xl1s
3d in max
compositing in afx

07 July 2003, 01:55 PM
Everyone is thinking creepy and you're going for cute. I like very much, it's very believable anf the animation is great. You'd might like to try turning up the brightness, when checking your final render. The robot show up on top of the actor (you?) for a brief second. But very nice, indeed! :applause:

victor throe
07 July 2003, 07:28 PM

its not me.......

ive just gone through frame by doesnt appear to be in front of the person in any frames


its not that creepy.....look at those lovely baby blue eyes

07 July 2003, 09:44 PM
Victor, if you look at the picture I've attached you'll see the robot in front of the character...I upped the levels on the pic, but the same thing is noticable when brightness is's not a big thing, but I noticed it in my first viewing.

victor throe
07 July 2003, 11:26 PM
aah yes

i was sloppy and thought it wouldnt be noticable for those frames

07 July 2003, 08:35 AM
Nice nice! That was great!

Not much to crit here ...well the hand waving at the end is a bit overacted :)

...but it surely was nice, the robot looks very real.


victor throe
07 July 2003, 01:28 PM
thanks for the comments

little dave is just glad to have a visitor

victor throe
07 July 2003, 08:49 AM
managed to get myself a couple of hours free time

so ill be posting a new version shortly

get rid of some of the errors

stay tuned

victor throe
07 July 2003, 09:37 AM

here they are

slightly better

curious thing happened

i exported this divx at a smaller resolution and the file size came out larger than the higher resolution version

anyone know why this happened

victor throe
07 July 2003, 11:57 AM
final mov submission

550 pixels wide

07 July 2003, 04:42 PM
Nice work here!

I like how the match flare is duplicated in the CG portion... well done.

Good character animation! This is something I need work at. Very cool!

Good luck to you!

victor throe
07 July 2003, 08:25 PM
thanks man

07 July 2003, 08:58 PM
Awesome entry!


victor throe
07 July 2003, 08:09 AM
and thank you to you too

07 July 2003, 07:26 PM
Hey, Victor:

Noticed that you aren't listed as an official entry on the main Challenge page. Have you tried talking to Lil'Dragon or another moderator to get you up there? You definitely need to have your final stuff seen by folks, it's great.

That and without you there's only 3 final entries. :rolleyes:

Good luck!

victor throe
07 July 2003, 09:59 PM
how do i get on the list?

07 July 2003, 10:05 PM
technically speaking you had to setup an entry
before the challenge.

I would contact an admin an ask them for an exception from this rule, since you finished your work before the dateline.


victor throe
07 July 2003, 07:14 AM
i must be blind

where does it say you have to register?


where is this list?

sorry if its really obvious

cant see the wood for the trees

07 July 2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by victor throe
where is this list?

That's the official entry spot. I'd strongly suggest talking to the mods/admins about getting on there. This is too good to be missed on a technicality!!

victor throe
07 July 2003, 02:03 PM

i had no idea

i still cant see where it says you have to register


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