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06 June 2003, 04:09 PM (

Some of you may remember this one, from the LOTR contest. Well, I can say it's finished. (3dsmax4, Scanline, Paint Shop Pro 6. Fur modelled&placed by hand). c&c welcome.

some details:

06 June 2003, 04:19 PM

06 June 2003, 04:34 PM
E=mc˛: i was thinking the same thing :surprised
damn! :D

06 June 2003, 04:41 PM
great work.:thumbsup:

06 June 2003, 04:49 PM
Wow, really cool, I would have no chance against this guy!
1 Crit.... eyes look a little lifless.
Not the eyeballs., but the skin around the eyes look to relaxed.
Mike Fitz

06 June 2003, 05:32 PM

06 June 2003, 05:47 PM
that first pic is expose quality, imho.

One thing that caught my eye is the big toe in the last pic, it looks like its been painfully twisted out of the foot, I know its not exactly a human's anatomy, but I think having such an awkward looking toe is distracting.

Other than that its perfect

06 June 2003, 05:51 PM
thats totally awesome, the only thing i don't like is the texture on the amror, looks jsut like "noise", it dosn't look like rusted or owrn battle armor, jsut the noise filter in photoshop, or in max even, and something with the upper lip dosn't sit right with me, but other than that its awesome

06 June 2003, 05:52 PM
Nice to see it finished.

06 June 2003, 05:55 PM
nice work m@ lovely texturing.

06 June 2003, 05:56 PM
Awesome!! :bounce: But I think that his teeth is too shiny, they are usually very dirty and alot of black areas can be seen on them... rest is great!!! :airguitar

06 June 2003, 06:00 PM
Holy shit, this one's outstanding. Great work! Great work on the textures, too.

06 June 2003, 06:05 PM
That's one scarily realistic looking beast, great stuff.

Agree about the toe looking odd, and the feet look too flat to support him, but hey, I find it hard to find any faults with it at all.

06 June 2003, 06:09 PM
Thats really nice!

Great Work!:thumbsup:

06 June 2003, 06:10 PM
Well all i can say is what they others have =) truly awesome man.

Got a question. you said the fur was modeled and placed by hand. Does it mean what u meant literally??
Because if u did....geeeez how many hours did that take and do u have a secret?

Rei Ayanami
06 June 2003, 06:10 PM
mm i just dont buy it, its an amazin peice of work, but it just doesnt 'go' IMHO anyway. Keep it up!

06 June 2003, 06:17 PM
I can remember this alright. It was one of the best entries. :buttrock: I'm sooo glad you got around to finishing it.:thumbsup: It's fantastic.:airguitar Hope to see more from you soon.:drool:

06 June 2003, 06:30 PM
awesome textures! :cool:

he scares me tho :surprised

06 June 2003, 06:31 PM
Great work :thumbsup:

I agree with you Waz to a certain extent, about the armor in the first picture.

I think that the "so called" noise is NOT the problem, The effect looks great and very realistic, like strong metal. To me it seems much more advanced than just using plain noise too.

It just seems to look too clean, maybe some more markings like on the top of the helmet would do the trick.

The fur looks amazing, I would love to thoroughly learn your technique for creating it, did you just assign the fur to multiple flat planes and model them around the body? have you ever used the Advanced Painter Script?

Thx, keep up the great work

06 June 2003, 06:41 PM
I love the detail and design.

Great Work. :applause: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

06 June 2003, 06:42 PM
Excellent work....really nice renders !!!great job!

06 June 2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by ahattemer

One thing that caught my eye is the big toe in the last pic, it looks like its been painfully twisted out of the foot, I know its not exactly a human's anatomy, but I think having such an awkward looking toe is distracting.

Other than that its perfect

Uh, I am pretty sure that's the way that he meant it to be. It fits the creature well since it appears to be an apelike creature. Just look at the feet on apes and you'll see that they have an opposable "big toe." :) Awesome job! :thumbsup: How about a wireframe?

06 June 2003, 06:47 PM
Thats superb, nothing to crit on that!

06 June 2003, 06:56 PM

06 June 2003, 07:07 PM
He'ssssssssssssssssssss Baaaaaaaaaaaaaack.

And looking better than ever.It's all top notch,just top level work in all aspects.Now M@ come join my team,we will have some fun.:)

Unless you already joined another team.....:p

Again,it's a great pleasure to see the big furry one again.Right click save as into my elite art folder the big guy goes.

Subperb. Your style is......."Autnt Elegant"

:beer: :beer:

06 June 2003, 07:07 PM
It looks really great. I'd like to see you add some emotion to the brow area. The screaming mouth looks so fierce, but the eyes look kinda blank right now.

Model/render/surfacing-wise, it's amazing.

06 June 2003, 07:08 PM
ROCK ON :buttrock: Kudos to m@ :thumbsup: I :love: it.

Apt Pupil
06 June 2003, 07:12 PM
M@ . . . what are you doing here?? Your suppose to be in this month's challenge heheh

It's looking great dude!! The only thing that bothers me is that the chain looks like it's floating for some reason, and, he is missing sylivia (<-- however you spell that) in his mouth. Or, you could add some foam:p

Otherwise, this was one of the best entries .. . Hope to see some more of your work dude.


06 June 2003, 07:16 PM

already saw it's WIP, but it is even better now!

06 June 2003, 07:18 PM

06 June 2003, 07:24 PM
SO cool to finaly see it finished :applause:

Now all I need is an 1024X768 wallpaper render :p

06 June 2003, 07:27 PM
That looks neat but the bump or the "noise" on the metal textures looks odd.
What kind of metal are you going for? It looks to be a bronze but like is aid, that noise is throwing it off.
The facial features of the ape look awsome.
I won't want to fight em!

06 June 2003, 07:49 PM
really a clear work...

06 June 2003, 08:04 PM
Brutal Nice work.



3D Max Rulezzzz :airguitar

06 June 2003, 08:16 PM
Holy crap! I can´t breathe... awesome work. But that metal looks little bit odd. That skull is perfect!

John Lee
06 June 2003, 08:23 PM
Very nice man i like it alot!

06 June 2003, 08:45 PM

06 June 2003, 09:09 PM
Massive undertaking and you succeded.
I would love to see his face get as evil and angry as it can get!

06 June 2003, 09:15 PM
Hey, I think this fellow is awsome. Great design, I love the face and his skull accessory. :)

06 June 2003, 09:20 PM
Oh my god. This is amazing work. There are some very minor issues but damn, I want to enjoy this pic. IMO definetly Expose quality... (if not better ;)

Keep it up.

06 June 2003, 09:23 PM
he COULD be more dirtier... you know...
like.. hmm... goo everywhere in this mouth dripping down and stuff. but DAYMN!! good job!

06 June 2003, 09:38 PM
very nice indeed. but i think the armor has too much noise on it.

LotR? i thought him coming from Planet of the apes! lol :D

06 June 2003, 09:52 PM
Brutal Nice work.


3D Max Rulezzzz
better say m@ Rulezzzz!

06 June 2003, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by E=mc˛
Holy Shit :eek:


06 June 2003, 10:04 PM
man how many times I gotta tell you this thing is freakin amazing! glad to see it again...very glad in fact


wonderfull work!

come on irc again we misss you!

06 June 2003, 10:24 PM
I dunno if this has been said already, but I think you should put a notch or two in the sword. Or maybe just a small dent or something... It looks very new at the moment :) More dirt in general would be nice on second thought... Or not, depending on what you aim for of course. Great job nonetheless :thumbsup:

06 June 2003, 10:26 PM
close to perfection ! And then the fact its 'just' a scanline render. :thumbsup:

06 June 2003, 10:37 PM
Nice work! I like it :p

06 June 2003, 10:47 PM
very kool...the texturing of the sword is really crazy with all that blood...

one comment though....the big toe/thumb on his feet is wrong positioned to be a real ape... sorry to say that...

06 June 2003, 10:53 PM
please tell me whats your techniqe for creating it .
very amazing

06 June 2003, 11:01 PM
You **** true quite good.Waiter, your work is very fascinating.

06 June 2003, 11:15 PM
Thanks all for the comments! the crits are appreciated too. It helps me to see clear what I've been too close to for long hours.I'm sorry I can't reply to everybody..

about the fur : it's done with patterns of ~100 modelled hair each, and I placed those patterns by hand on the model... So I didn't place the hair one by one but 100 by 100:D

about the armor : no it's not "noise".. but mouse-painted textures.. :shrug: .. I agree that could improve it.

Virtuoso : thanks a lot man.. thanks for your invitation :beer: that's greatly appreciated..but I don't have much time those days.

Apt Pupil : thanks buddy. I wish I had some time for this challenge 'cause it's great. I'd like to see you entering this one too.;)

ila solomon ::beer: :)

KingMob : hehe thanks.. I'm quite often on the channel in fact. We lack synchronization seemingly.:beer:

saturen3 : it's all box/poly modelling/meshsmooth. And a lot of time.

06 June 2003, 11:33 PM
Simply Amazing! I haven't seen The Two Towers yet, but this character looks better then the CGI characters in FOTR. Great job!

06 June 2003, 11:47 PM
I would add one more ape and then call the image "The Apes of Wrath".

Other than that, it's awesome!!


06 June 2003, 12:03 AM
Wow! what else can we say...


06 June 2003, 01:22 AM
Great work!:bounce: :bounce:
Gratulations :applause: :applause:

.::character animations:. (

06 June 2003, 01:30 AM
Nice work, thats all I got to say. Props and respect.

06 June 2003, 01:32 AM
Hey man, the armor comment. I didn't mean it was Noise persay, like a fractal. I was just saying it came arcross very noisey.
What is the bump map there?
I'd love to know what kind of metal you think it is made out of.
If you know, then you can figure out how its properties would work with the shape you choose it to take.
Whats the backstory? Is it hand made? Blacksmith? Monkey-made with crud tools, very abrassivly, kinda primal brutal workmanship?
If so, you should ad some marks that would go with that sort of process maybe?
Right not it looks "form" made, kinda like a graphite mold similar to some modern cast molds in an assembly line.
Don't beleive that would be the case.
If its magicly made , perhaps some marking that would show that and no "handmade" marks.
Just an idea, curious as to how you see his backstory.
He also looks very clean, if you look at Gorillas upclose , thos guys got wacky crap in their fur and knotted areas. He's so clean that he might be right out of a Salon.
I like it a lot, but I think adding some visual hints as to his background, and personality would take it to the next level.

06 June 2003, 02:18 AM
i especially like the blood on the sword and skull

06 June 2003, 05:58 AM
nice character! but its built more like a man than a monkey to me... maybe i'm wrong... any ways nice job keep it up!

06 June 2003, 06:48 AM

06 June 2003, 07:32 AM

06 June 2003, 07:34 AM
interesting someone mentioning LOTR here. I recall the guy who designed the cave troll looking at his early art and saying he would NEVER hang a skull from the trolls belt or neck as it appeared in some early designs. He thought was it a bit cheesey in hindsight.

But its still a great skull:thumbsup:

06 June 2003, 08:22 AM
fantastic,better than any ape I have ever seen.Only minor crit is the eyes could use a little more sparkle,life.But still top type work has been done here.:thumbsup:

06 June 2003, 09:10 AM
WOW, u could have win the challenge if u have completed it in time! >):applause:

Kel Solaar
06 June 2003, 09:56 AM
Impressive texturing and modelling! :buttrock: :buttrock:

06 June 2003, 11:55 AM
Wow, this is an awsome model!!! May be you should read the blizzard job offer ;)

06 June 2003, 08:55 AM
waouw ! Amazing !

I hope never meet him ;)

06 June 2003, 12:37 PM
Bah I say! he's nothing special ;) You gotta fix the eyes some more still tho, they seem to be not focusing on anything to cause such rage.

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06 June 2003, 03:00 PM
thanks a lot lil'd!:beer:

06 June 2003, 04:57 PM
great job but ide add a little discolorization and blood stains to his fur and like it was said before tighen the eyes they dont look like they should be so loose.but other then that :buttrock:

06 June 2003, 09:04 AM
Ow my. :eek:

This is excellent. Great textures, great details, amazing lighting and everything.

06 June 2003, 10:56 AM
congrats man!!! ...

nice design,

nice texture...

nice character!!!!


:bounce: :bounce:

06 June 2003, 12:02 PM
lovely :)
i hope to see wireframe soon..
:cool: :D

06 June 2003, 09:32 PM

Beautiful model.. just had to chime in real quick and I hope you don't mind a few critiques.. I apologize if they have been mentioned already:

.. the eyes.. with the mouth in the angry position it is in I would expect them to be more squinty.. try screaming into your mirror to see what I mean..

..the chain is floating a bit around his neck (look at the shadow).. needs some weight..

..the spikes coming out of the armor don't look right.. they should have more of a smooth transition to the armor plates... that is if they are cast with the armor.. which they appear to be. If they are bolted on then you need some sort of gap where they meet the plate so they look like seperate pieces..

Now, what I LOVE:

..the armor.. looks like sand cast bronze to me.. beautiful..

..the hair, very nice, though expensive technique..

..LOVE the human thigh bone you used for the sword's handle..

..the expression... wow.

Basically a terrific model! ..:thumbsup: awesome job!


06 June 2003, 09:10 AM
Great work!
I have some minor crits though:
The filmgrain on the bronze is too much imho.
Esp. on the chain.
The way the chain is put in the skull is a bit weird. It looks like it is just pushed in the skull...
And I really have to say that the bone of the sword is way COOOOL!!
Again, :thumbsup:

06 June 2003, 09:55 AM
tro for :love:


06 June 2003, 12:34 PM
Only got to say this:

06 June 2003, 12:52 PM
It is so shake my mind, man:buttrock:
Well done. :thumbsup:

06 June 2003, 05:43 PM
very good^^

06 June 2003, 09:12 AM
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause
ru crazy?just perfect

06 June 2003, 10:28 AM
On a scale of 1 to 10 it's 12.6:airguitar

06 June 2003, 05:17 PM
nice :thumbsup:

arno barbo
06 June 2003, 11:00 PM
magnifique. Felicitation pour ce tres joli travail. Je ne vais pas develloper beaucoup, parceque j'aime tout dans ton personnage. Tres beau rendu egualement (scanline!!) et les textures... parlent d'elle meme.

09 September 2004, 08:35 PM
Good Work!
Well Done:thumbsup:

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