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11 November 2008, 06:46 AM
Theresa Ryan is entered in the "Steampunk Myths and Legends" update: View Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Final Image: The Great Bull of Cooley (Táin bó Culaigne) (

11 November 2008, 07:02 AM
hahaha...and we do it all again...

have fun!!

11 November 2008, 07:07 AM
And good luck to you, my dear sir!
All the best!

11 November 2008, 07:20 AM
ey clip :)

11 November 2008, 07:34 AM
Good Luck!

11 November 2008, 07:35 AM
Have fun, Theresa. Hope you finish this one! :)

11 November 2008, 07:45 AM
I'm going to do my very darndest to finish this one! I can feel it....

ok, time to start having fun with ideas!



My favourite myths and legends......done in steampunk style!

I'm thinking of doing an irish legend- in steampunk... so here's a list:

1) The swans of Lir: Children are banished from their kingdom and turned into swans.
2) The giant Fionn MacCumhail fights with his scottish counterpart Benandonner and forms the Giant's Causeway in the process.
3) The Salmon of Knowledge: Cuchulainn burns his finger on the salmon of knowledge, gaining the gift of knowledge.
4) Queen Medb is jealous of her husband's bull, so she determines to outdo him by getting the best bull in Ireland. To this end, she goes to war against Daire a chieftain of Ulster.


or...the greek legends done steampunk style!

The hundred-eyed Argus being killed and turned into a peacock...or the war between Hector and Achilles...

More modern-day type stuff----

A steampunk circus or steampunk fairground!

More ideas:

* Steampunk Alice in Wonderland (I like this one)

11 November 2008, 08:33 AM
yeah! this challenge has awesome topic!
and you picked up very interesting ideas,
good luck Theresa!:cool:

11 November 2008, 09:36 AM
hey there :)
looking forward to seeing what you have for us this time!

11 November 2008, 09:59 AM
Ok, I have an Alice-in-wonderland steampunk type sketch done, but I'm in college & need to wait till my lectures are done before I can scan it in!

It's of an Alice in a leather coat holding a roundbottomed beaker (DRINK ME) and astride a giant mechanical caterpillar (usually the caterpillar is smoking his hookah, but here he's a steamcaterpillar)...with the march hare after her...hehehe...

11 November 2008, 01:35 PM (

Steampillar concept: The caterpillar is usually smoking; here he's steaming and acting as Alice's transport to get away from the Cheshire cat winged machine and the zeppelins of the Queens. Sadly though, I have no scanner, so this is a photo-it looks much better in person, I promise. :D

11 November 2008, 02:14 PM
Awesome, I was really hopeing for something along this line, have a great time witht he challenge and good luck =)

11 November 2008, 02:19 PM
Yeah! You have so much good idea's Theresa.

Have fun, lots of luck and please finish! :wip:

11 November 2008, 03:50 PM (

Ok, so this is a rough colour mockup of the previous concept. I'm going to leave this one alone for a while and work on some other concepts, then I'll pick one and run with it. :)

11 November 2008, 04:03 PM
Slow down Theresa, atleast give us some time to catch up!

Looking good so far, cant wait to see the finished painting 5 pm tonight :D

11 November 2008, 04:19 PM
You'll have to wait at least until 6pm- I need to eat, you know. :D

I kid, I kid...or do I? Ah, no. This won't be the image I go with- there have been TOO many steam alice in wonderland type things before, I want to do something a bit more original.

Steam circus next? Hm...

Marlon: hey, challenge buddy. :P

11 November 2008, 04:58 PM
hi theresa
nice to see you participate. alice in steampunk land hmm? sounds great, ah i love the sheshire cat or however that's actually written... or pronounced :-) and i'm looking forward to see how your version'll develop. i guess everything's gonna be quiet mechanical, but maybe i was thinking, the cheshire cat could be a bit different, in a way more powerful and misterious. I always thought of it like so. well enought babbling, good luck to you!

11 November 2008, 05:09 PM
sweet jezz..uve got colors already in ur concept,im still blank...:D very interesting concept.anticipate for more my friend:)

11 November 2008, 05:20 PM
nice start indeed

although to be honest i feel its missing some of the classic "steam punk" elements..


11 November 2008, 07:17 PM
Coco: You have me exactly. :) I wanted a bit of a cross between steampunk and legend- it's not one or the other...

Michael: I should have been paying more attention to my lectures this morning, I have very little pharmacognosy learned...oops...oh well...

Bearfoot: Yeah, I see what you're saying there- but the theme is 'Steampunk WITH myth/legend', the way I see it you can have a bit of both if you want to- at the expense of the steam, maybe? But I have quite a few elements in there...machines, gears, levers, goggles, tin plates, screws, rawls, many more do you need?!

11 November 2008, 08:14 PM
I like.
And Alice looks like such a pinup :cool:

11 November 2008, 08:38 PM
Good luck with your entry, Theresa.
I would focus on a Irish Legend ... would be nice to see sketches of that themes you have listed in your first post.

11 November 2008, 09:51 PM
I am curious, how do you get the thumbnail to show up in the forum view?

Here is the page I have for my entry:

Would someone mind posting some instructions in the above thread so I can find out how to get a thumbnail in the list?


11 November 2008, 10:09 PM
Spin: She is! She's a steampunk pinup :)

Grin: I'd keep an eye on this space then if I were you- the next one will be a steampunk Queen Maedbh with her mechanical bull of Cooley (the Táin bó Culaigne). Either that or an illustration of the most fearsome of Irish legends: the Hounds of the Morrígan!

Ben: You need to go to Submit Entry - 'Steampunk Myths and Legends' CGChallenge ( to submit your works instead of hosting them yourself.

11 November 2008, 10:36 PM
Good luck Theresa, looks like your already on your way there! cheers



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11 November 2008, 11:07 PM
I love the atmosphere so far, great work. Very Miyazaki.:applause:

11 November 2008, 01:14 AM
good luck man :)
love always
Mohammed Ali Ramadan

11 November 2008, 08:42 AM
- the next one will be a steampunk Queen Maedbh with her mechanical bull of Cooley (the Táin bó Culaigne). Either that or an illustration of the most fearsome of Irish legends: the Hounds of the Morrígan!

Oooooh yess!
You should definitely explore that option too :D
But I like your Alice too.

11 November 2008, 09:13 AM

awesome idea, looking forward to seeing more from you! :D

11 November 2008, 10:13 AM

You're off to a fine start. Sheesh, I haven't even started yet!

11 November 2008, 12:49 PM
Theresa in !

11 November 2008, 01:04 PM
Aw, man, Theresa, that's a solid gold concept,. steampunk Alice in wonderland... absolutely brilliant! Love the cheshire cat. Best of luck for the challenge!

11 November 2008, 01:39 PM
Hey miss... before to do my choice... I'm already here for the support...

maybe more will come... :shrug:

While waiting... bonne chance à toi !
et c'est déjà super bien commencé !

11 November 2008, 04:53 PM
Hey Theresa! Already some colors here - looking good. Alice could be a real fun one - looking forward to see where it goes!

11 November 2008, 07:23 PM

The Táin bó Culaigne, as promised! I think I'd change Queen Meadbh's costume, though and make the people a bit more prominent. See them under the bull?
I think I'd also make Maedbh more dynamic and steampunkish.

11 November 2008, 07:26 PM
that's so cool! I love the concept so far:buttrock:

11 November 2008, 07:30 PM
nice :)


11 November 2008, 07:30 PM
Rupy: I have a long way yet to go- I still haven't settled upon a topic! This is the fun part, though...:D

Dan LuVisi: Thanks! I love miyazaki's stuff, so that's a big compliment!

bsb: love always to you too. :)

Marlon (Kromodikoro, not Brando) : Here's your Queen Maedbh!

Espengenin: Here's some more. :D Hope it's to your liking....

Martin: Plenty of time...plenty of time....

gpepper: Gilles in!

Zephyri: I like it too- even if I don't use it for the challenge, I might finish it anyway??

Laurent: Merci, mon ami :)

Gunilla-- no matter where it goes, I'm going to enjoy it. :D That's the point, after all!

11 November 2008, 08:31 PM
Nice work—agree that the queen needs a different costume. Thinking goggles a victorian dress and hat with a Ray gun of some kind.

11 November 2008, 09:01 PM
wow, new concept looks very promising, I had a similar idea but with a giant craken, but had the same comp in mind with only a slightly different mood... I still can't decide what to do yet though, or if, 'cause atm I got no tablet! and not much extra time at the office...

11 November 2008, 09:06 PM
Love the new concept! I felt the Alice-like theme was straying a liiiiittle too far from the idea of ancient myths and legends. :)

11 November 2008, 09:53 PM
Velk: Ray gun? In victorian times? o_O Maybe a harpoon though?

Coco: No idea is unique anymore. :D Just do your thing! It's hard getting time for it though, I know, I do my thumbnails in between lecture slides.....

Erilaz: Ancient myths and legends? Ancient? Really? I didn't know they 'had' to be ancient, just myths/legends. I thought Alice 'counted' as a myth, since she is clearly unreal and in quite a wonderful wonderland..but I'm probably not going to follow that concept anyhow.

Coming up next: The Hounds of the Morrigan!

The Morrigan is a goddess of battle, strife, and fertility. Her name translates as either "Great Queen" or "Phantom Queen," and both epithets are entirely appropriate for her. The Morrigan appears as both a single goddess and a trio of goddesses. The other deities who form the trio are Badb ("Crow"), and either Macha (also connotes "Crow") or Nemain ("Frenzy"). The Morrigan frequently appears in the ornithological guise of a hooded crow. She is one of the Tuatha Dé Danann ("Tribe of the goddess Danu") and she helped defeat the Firbolg at the First Battle of Mag Tuireadh and the Fomorians at the Second Battle of Mag Tuireadh.

She appeared to the hero Cuchulainn and offered her love to him. When he failed to recognize her and rejected her, she told him that she would hinder him when he was in battle. When Cu Chulainn was eventually killed, she settled on his shoulder in the form of a crow. Cu's misfortune was that he never recognized the feminine power of sovereignty that she offered to him. She appeared to him on at least four occasions and each time he failed to recognize her.

When she appeared to him and declared her love for him.
After he had wounded her, she appeared to him as an old hag and he offered his blessings to her, which caused her to be healed.
On his way to his final battle, he saw the Washer at the Ford, who declared that she was washing the clothes and arms of Cu Chulainn, who would soon be dead.
When he was forced by three hags (the Morrigan in her triple aspect) to break a taboo of eating dogflesh.
She has hounds which she sends to kill anybody displeasing her. I've always thought of the hounds as being like a cross between greyhounds and Irish wolfhounds.

So.......something along these lines!

11 November 2008, 09:55 PM
Great concepts! I don't know how you churn them out so fast. Best of luck!

11 November 2008, 10:22 PM
Hey Clippy! You are trucking along nicely. Táin bó Culaigne is the winner so far. Can't wait for the next.

11 November 2008, 12:13 AM
HI THeresa!NIce to see you're in!THe hounds of morrigan sounds so great too!!!Too many cool myths & legends:DGood luck.

11 November 2008, 12:51 AM

The Morrigan in the form of a crow along with the others...the giant Cuchulainn as a steampunk robot...
I think if I did this one, I'd change his left leg, it's a bit too distracting...I'd also remove the man, he's steampunky but a bit too distracting as well??

11 November 2008, 01:18 AM
hell yeah one more time the fun begins ^^ just came to spam a bit and wish you luck :) (kowing you already got teh fun all the way)

11 November 2008, 02:31 AM
whoa~great stuff theresa,i love the bull concept,the conposition and the colors fit really well.keep it coming mate!

11 November 2008, 04:58 AM
Wow, when did you find the time for these? Great on all of them.

11 November 2008, 07:23 AM
I too love crows and the new idea seems to be really aligned with the competition theme.
But I wonder if Alice wouldn't be acceptable as well, specially since I miss her already.
And maybe I should stop spamming and start sketching huh.

Bleh Aaah-lee-ce :buttrock:

11 November 2008, 07:41 AM (

'This thing has been around longer than we thought. And it doesn't die.'

...I had a dream about this last night so when I woke up, I painted this. Explorers discovering a cave find out that their steampunk monster is not a new thing...

Changes, obviously, would be made. I'm not a huge fan of the composition, for example. Hmm.

11 November 2008, 07:53 AM
This last one with the cave is extraordinary... I like much... very original and funny !

11 November 2008, 10:54 AM
Thanks Laurent... I figured you'd like it (it's based on Lescaux, after all). I laughed in my dreams when this came up, so I had to paint it. :D

A couple more concepts I came up with this morning while walking to college:

1) The invasion of Troy... sort of like with a wooden horse, but not a horse...but it starts raining and it puts out the fires, so they need to relight it. :D

2) Similar theme- dracula/frankenstein type thing...but it breaks down and needs to be fixed on its way to terrorizing the village.

11 November 2008, 11:14 AM
That will be difficult to do the good choice with "all" these good ideas...

11 November 2008, 11:54 AM
Have fun u nut! :bounce::bounce:

11 November 2008, 12:07 PM
LOVE the Táin one Theresa - gonna enter myself over the next day or so - keep up the phenomenal work!


11 November 2008, 12:35 PM
Laurent: Je sais. Je déteste les décisions! Tout le monde peut-être m'aider à en choisir un? :)

Dimi: always. :D I'm going to keep a close eye on your thread...MR.POTATOHEAD...

PMD: Glad to hear you're entering! We need more irish people around here...too many irish legends to choose from!

EDIT:::: Another concept on paper..look out for it this afternoon!

11 November 2008, 01:02 PM
Cool...i´m impressed, with how much ideas and nice concepts you can come up with...
I´m eager to see, which one will make it :)

11 November 2008, 09:17 PM (

This one started out as the 'It's broken' concept, but evolved into 'Steaming into Troy'.....there's not enough of the legend about it, though.

11 November 2008, 09:47 PM
Woot, go Theresa!

11 November 2008, 09:51 PM
These concepts are all inspiring. Where are you getting all your creative energy? Share some with the rest of us! :)

Seriously though, I love all these sketches so far. Can't wait to see what you decide to go with.

11 November 2008, 02:12 AM
Nice concepts Theresa - I'm looking forward to following this one,

11 November 2008, 07:04 AM
Dang girl, you're pumping them out like no tomorrow! :D

Fantastic stuff. I'll have to start getting into gear to match your passionate energy!

11 November 2008, 07:08 AM
Hey Theresa !
this last sketch looks really cool.can;t wait to see more of it :thumbsup:

lots of luck!

11 November 2008, 11:52 AM
Ali: Where's YOUR entry!? Are you holding out on us?? I have to go find it now...

Brittany: Nothing makes you more creative than spending your day doing the least creative thing possible! During the day, I CAN'T make any mistakes. ( One mistake means you get zero in the entire exercise), so careful routine and meticulous detail makes one very hungry for a creative outlet, hehehe. Each one only takes about an hour, so I do them while having a very slow dinner...there's always time SOMEWHERE. I think up most of my ideas while sleeping or walking into college or waiting for the lab instruments to calibrate...

Sideache: Thanks! :D I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!

Martin: I have a steampump here to help me. And who says there's going to be a tomorrow? :surprised I see I'm going to have to 'gently motivate' you in your efforts...

Andrei: :wip:

Also::: very good news...I am the proud aunt of these two new babies!

11 November 2008, 11:58 AM
I love Alice in wonderland! So crazy adventure!
Good luck ;)

11 November 2008, 12:00 PM
yehaaa, yep, seems like your on a wave of inspi!Nice concepts!

11 November 2008, 12:07 PM
Hey Theresa,

some really nice concepts there - i really like the colours that you're using too. You've got tons of ideas to play with as well. The Tain is a great source of legend - it's like a Red Hot Chilli Peppers album - bloody, sugar, magic :)

Nice one.

11 November 2008, 01:26 PM
Congratulations "Tata" Paper... and too for their parents :applause:

11 November 2008, 01:32 PM
yehhh ,didn't saw that before!yeeeh, well you sure are right to be proud!Congratz Theresa,they are supercute!

11 November 2008, 02:19 PM
THE STEAMING INTO TROY...errr sorry caps...anyway that image first reminded me of the pied instead of a flute a giant musical organ thing! now that could be wild. peace.

11 November 2008, 02:57 PM
hey !!
congratulations too :)

and also lots of luck for this challenge :applause:

11 November 2008, 03:31 PM
Congrats Auntie! :bounce:

11 November 2008, 08:53 PM (

This is the Angel of the Gold Rush: During the Californian Gold Rush, William O'Brien was one of the last people to get over there and set up his plot. Unfortunately though, he set up a site completely devoid of gold. He worked for months without as much as a bean to show for it. On the very last day, working under the burning sun, he said a prayer to his Lord. When he opened his eyes again, before him stood the Angel of the Gold Rush, holding up the largest gold nugget he'd ever seen.

(I'd give him some steampunkish gold panner thingy, but maybe the whole thing just isn't steampunkish enough)

11 November 2008, 09:21 PM
whoa, that last piece looks great!

What did you have for dinner, pooping out all these beautiful drawings? :D :applause:

Ooh, congrats with the 2 newborns, auntie T!

11 November 2008, 09:35 PM
Hey Theresa,

You have a lot of great ideas and concepts, really awesome !! :D love the sketches, incredible work ! :thumbsup: And cheers for your new nephews :D :beer:

11 November 2008, 10:11 PM

Wow, you and Squibbit waste no time! I didnt realize you had so many ideas already thrown together, thats great! Im digging the goldrush idea, I think the era would suit the steampunk idea well :thumbsup:

Congrats on being an aunt btw!

11 November 2008, 10:48 PM
true, theresa, I guess there is always time somewhere in the day. I'm going to try to invest a good amount of time to the challenge this weekend. Anyways, super cool art so far. And congrats on being an aunt - that's awesome. :)

11 November 2008, 11:29 PM
Good luck!

11 November 2008, 02:14 AM
The last concept is very cool and really cool.Great:bounce:

11 November 2008, 03:50 AM
I've gotta say, paperclip, the cave drawing is my kind of humor. Liked the Táin bó Culaigne too. Keep it up and enjoy those little ones while they are still young.

11 November 2008, 11:41 AM (

......And so Juliette went down the steps, following the Fairy Godmother's directions when what should appear to her eyes but her one true love? Only, it wasn't exactly what she'd expected...

11 November 2008, 05:44 PM
Hi, Theresa... very cool... especially the babies! Zach loves looking at pictures of babies, and after I surfed away from your page, he cried until I returned to it to look some more at your niece and nephew. They're very cute. Congratulations!

11 November 2008, 06:42 PM
Hey Theresa! I am digging the new sketch. I love your use of color in all the concepts so far.

11 November 2008, 09:16 PM
Heh, pumping them out quickly there aren't you? Good luck :)

11 November 2008, 12:49 AM
Huhu... too much ideas here... difficult to be very objective, each time... the new one appear very beautiful and original...

...and of course, the Angel of the Gold Rush seem to have much qualities in this case... well... do decide about a limite date for the final concept sketch... ? :wavey:

11 November 2008, 12:59 PM
(deleted pic, as it was just too awful)

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
And all the King's steampunk horses and men
Tried their damndest to put him together again.

(I don't like the composition/colors/etc of this one, but I like the idea behind it.)

Walrus: here are a couple more pictures for Zach :)

11 November 2008, 02:18 PM
Thanks, I'm sure he'll appreciate them! :D

11 November 2008, 02:34 PM (

This is what Ireland looks like in the winter...but I digress..

Can you guess what the myth/legend behind this is?

11 November 2008, 02:38 PM
hi Theresa! Hows going? :) nice to see u in this challenge as well. I wish u a very inspiring ride and lots of great ideas!

11 November 2008, 02:50 PM
Little Red Riding Hood? heh, that's original :-)

11 November 2008, 04:24 PM
i really love your earlier sketches. they have soo much life, especially the bull one. its very dynamic. thanks for sharing! seriously.

11 November 2008, 04:29 PM

....guess which myth THIS is!

11 November 2008, 04:33 PM
HA! i would be concerned as well if i was missing bits and pieces. XD

nice one!

11 November 2008, 04:34 PM
Hahahaha very good... I don't understand what she do here... but it's for sure THE concept !

number 10 ? argh... you're a monster...

...a sweet pretty monster :cool:

11 November 2008, 04:48 PM
Wow clippy! Little Mermaid. I'm still trying to come up with one myth/legend I want to use let alone the 10 or so you've sketched out, great start. Maybe video concepts are just harder to come up with, yeah I'll go with that.

11 November 2008, 05:39 PM
Laurent:: A couple more days of concepts, then I'll pick one out, probably tomorrow or Wed. Then I'll start messing around with the composition...this is all a learning experience for me, you know. :D ...Me, a monster? Ahem...pot,

Coco: Thanks. :D

Slav: I really appreciate your encouraging words. Thanks. :love:

Tobias: It's always harder coming up with video ideas, it sure is... I'd go with that excuse if I were you. :D No, seriously.

Edit: Velk and Coco..The stories WERE Little Red Riding Hood and The Little Mermaid. You win the unmysterious prize, a little baby dragon...if you can reach him...

11 November 2008, 06:30 PM
and why not a magic blend of all your concepts ! that will be more easy than the impossible choice :deal:

11 November 2008, 07:49 PM
That sounds intriguing. Let's concepts are/were.. the tain bo culaigne, the gold rush, little mermaid, troy, red riding hood, cinderella, humpty dumpty, alice in wonderland and the cave one. Oh and Cuchulainn and the morrigan trifecta! combine them...we could have the little mermaid being washed up onto a beach and being taken away by the wolf of red riding hood to give to the grandma, but Cuchulainn comes across the wolf and kills it to feed the Morrigan crows to distract them from himself, managing to escape, but getting lost in the forests and coming across the Cheshire cat and Alice who is also trying to find HER way out of the forest, so the two of them find Cinderella's coach and steal it in order to get to California so they can partake in the gold rush (Cuchulainn is running out of money).

What they don't bank on though is the fact that Humpty Dumpty is sitting on the coach and as it starts, he has another great fall...then the king's horses and the kings' men who have just finished putting him back together again are understandably angry and chase them.

So we have Cuchulainn and Alice on Cinderella's coach being pursued by the crows, all the king's horses and all the king's men. In order to evade the mob, they turn off the beaten track and end up in a cave, where they light a match and discover a cave painting depicting a steam dinosaur which has survived since the stone ages.

They have to stay quiet, otherwise the crows, the cheshire cat and the king's horses and men will hear them and invade the cave. But...then...they hear a steam whistle and the roar of what sounds like a dinosaur....coming from the depths of the cave....

11 November 2008, 08:01 PM
ROFL, that would make a seriously great, crazy cartoon series.

11 November 2008, 09:13 PM
Heh was that the big bad steamwolf?
I really like your girls so many ideas hope best one makes it.

11 November 2008, 10:43 PM
You have made a mistake... you must enter in video section... that could be so rich :buttrock: haha

Sincerly, I don't have understand all... but I've laughing much !

11 November 2008, 10:59 PM
Thaldir: Maybe someday. :D I have a few projects on the go for childrens' books, so that'll have to be on the backburner for now. It WOULD be an insane cartoon though!

Spin: I sure hope the best one makes it too..!

Lemog...Je vais essayer de raconter l'histoire en français!

La petite sirène est échouée sur la plage. Le Red Riding Hood loup vole la petite sirène. Il veut donner à sa grand-mère pour un cadeau. Cuchulainn trouve le loup et il tue. Il alimente la Morrigan corbeaux avec le loup. Ils arrêtent la traque à lui. Cuchulainn fugue. Il se perd dans la forêt. Il trouve Alice au pays des merveilles. Elle est trop perdu. Ils trouvent l'entraîneur de Cendrillon. Ils volent la voiture. Ils Voyage en Californie parce qu'ils n'ont pas d'argent et la ruée vers l'or est en cours. Mais Humpty Dumpty est assis sur la voiture. Il tombe. Le King's chevaux et les hommes seulement lui fixe. Ils sont en colère. Ils Chase Cuchulainn et Alice. La Morrigan oiseaux, le chat de Cheshire et les chevaux du roi et de chasser tous les hommes Cuchulainn et Alice à travers la forêt. Ils trouvent une grotte. Ils se cachent dans la grotte. Ils ont tenu un match et voir les dinosaures steampunk sur les murs. Ils se peur. Ils ne peuvent pas sortir. Puis ils ont entendu rugir un dinosaure et un sifflet ...

J'espère que vous pouvez comprendre, excuse mon francais. :)

11 November 2008, 11:11 PM
Hahaha Thank you so much

c'est trop gentil !

do you have now a precise idea of all ? :buttrock:

sincerly, I always like much the dino steampunk ! :thumbsup: imagine how the head of discoverers :rolleyes:

11 November 2008, 11:18 PM
They probably thought they were going crazy. Je crois qu'ils pensaient qu'ils fous.Je vais bientôt reprendre un concept ... bientôt ...peut-être. :D

....I found this excellent link, about steam machinery for the artist.....

Very useful resource for designing the steam elements of the picture.

11 November 2008, 07:21 AM
Again thanks for this link NutsPaper... it is crazy but truly passionating for me...

I was keeping long time on it... much pleasure to plunge in this universe :bowdown:

Nice day for you !

11 November 2008, 03:18 PM (

The time had to come- no more messing around with concepts! I have to pick one and start working on it for real. My personal favourites are the Táin, the Gold Rush, the Cave Discovery and Red Riding Hood.

11 November 2008, 03:25 PM
Either the cave or the gold rush. The cave has a stronger composition though.

11 November 2008, 03:35 PM
I think Alice would be fun! You can go crazy with the steampunk style.
Compositionwise I like the Taurus best.
But I really like to see steampunk wonderland :)

11 November 2008, 03:36 PM
The cave looks very original and powerfull, so that would be my first choice.. But the Tain on the other hand looks soooooo strong and fierce :) that would be my second choice.

11 November 2008, 03:37 PM
Difficult - you have a lot of goodies to choose between. I'd say either the cave or the taurus... or mayby a taurus in a cave? :)

11 November 2008, 05:40 PM
Womball: really? I thought the Gold Rush had a stronger composition than the cave....!
Goro: Yeah, I like the Alice too. :D Such a difficult choice...great to see you in here, by the way. :)
Ninja: Thanks for posting. :love:
Gunilla: A Taurus in a cave? I didn't think of that in my story (on the previous page)

Shameful plug time: I have 2 new pieces in the cggallery- you can see them in my signature: monkeygirl and dreamweaver.:twisted:

11 November 2008, 05:46 PM
I'd go for Alice in Wonderland if it qualifies as a myth/legend. So many amazing things you can do with it. Loved your sketches of that.

11 November 2008, 05:57 PM
Even though you don't have it in your sketches, I say do The wizard of oz! In all honesty like the Táin.

Best of luck. Beautiful work.


11 November 2008, 06:00 PM
that gold rush one is pretty bad ass! i hope you pick that one.

11 November 2008, 06:13 PM
Oops meant the otherway around. Yeah the gold rush one is better compositionally. I just like the cave one a lot too.

11 November 2008, 07:19 PM
You have realy great ideas here.Looking forward to what you deside on.

11 November 2008, 08:26 PM
Gold Rush or Tain... love em both! :bounce:

11 November 2008, 10:27 PM
Well... much agree me... but I think with Alice you must go very far... especially with your rich imagination... and you could give us something very strong and original...

I'm waiting your final decision miss :deal:

11 November 2008, 11:37 PM
Of these, I like the Tain best - good start with the composition, and that beast would look great all steampunked out. The cave is a fun idea, but it means that the bulk of your work is cave drawings, not steampunk imagery exactly, and it feels a little like a cheap out.

i like the idea of seeing Alice in Wonderland as a steampunk adventure, but the composition as it is now isn't the strongest, and I'm not usre it counts as a myth, 'though it does fit Mark Snoswell's definition of being in the public domain. But it would be fun to see if done well and thoroughly.

Good luck!

11 November 2008, 12:22 AM
I'd go with the Tain--it seems the moodiest piece of the lot, and I love the coloring. But they're all great! I do not envy you your choice. :)

11 November 2008, 03:11 AM
The Tain is the best IMO , but Alice is a great theme. but the thumbnails is less catching eyes than the Tain one.

11 November 2008, 05:43 AM
Wow, you work fast, theresa! I am contemplating joining the challenge as well! Have fun! Cheers!

11 November 2008, 06:07 AM
i really like the alice image the best...but really all of them are great concepts that would
be fun to watch you develop :)

11 November 2008, 12:35 PM
Wow! You've been making brilliant progress. I love your sketches - they are beautiful imagery already! It sure is hard to choose a favorite, but if I had to I think the Tain is hard to beat

11 November 2008, 12:48 PM
mdavid,Cyberone,jeromoo,DeeVad,seili,walrus,Lemog,Art2,SONIC-X,Womball,Slav,sasquatch70 & Velk::: :love: :beer: :scream:

Thanks to all of you for weighing in with your ideas on this. I've decided to go for an Alice, but with a drastically different palette/composition/mood, much more like the Tain (this keyboard has no fada, so you'll have to imagine that little line over the a.) That way I can combine the best of both of my favourite concepts. :)

Thanks again to everyone for commenting. I love this challenge....such a great way to get world class crits that really helps in the development of one's talents, yada yada, I know, but it's so true.

I hope it will be good...composition/palette studies to come soon

11 November 2008, 12:50 PM
dont listen to "them" listen to ME!!

im sure what ever you do its gonna be amazing :)

just noticed ya picked alice yaya!!!

have you read automated Alice

11 November 2008, 12:55 PM
automated Alice here (

11 November 2008, 01:00 PM
I never heard of automated Alice, but this worries me a bit, since I wanted to do something original and if there are already squillions of other steampunk Alices out there, I'll just be adding to the pile...

11 November 2008, 01:05 PM
na dood , its just a book...and its not steam punk....its more retro cyber punk (is that the same thing?

cool read tho.

id still go with ya alice one :)
its such a cool concept and you were the first to grab it...if ya let it go i may have to steal it for my video entry (if i get around to doing it :) )

11 November 2008, 01:14 PM
I'm just a little worried that it may not fit the guidelines enough- the legends & myths thing- I mean, it's borderline. As walrus said, it's public domain, but I don't want to end up getting kicked out at the end (not that I stand to win anything).

You know what, since I'm not going to win anything anyway, I'll just do the concept that i think is the coolest and with the composition that i think is the coolest and that is Alice in Wonderland with the composition of the Tain.

So there!



And now this is about to happen to me:

(Gotta love Gary Larson)

11 November 2008, 01:20 PM
i'd be really tempted to go for the Alice in wonderland idea :)

11 November 2008, 01:59 PM
tain seems really nice
great works so far !

11 November 2008, 02:15 PM
sorry to drop in again and again, I just saw (III) the mermaid design which I liked very much so wanted to applaud? to you on that. However I think you've taken the right choice (It's always the right choice to do what you like best btw ;)) and I'm convinced that there'll be a price winking for you anyway, courage! blabber-di-blubb*

11 November 2008, 03:45 PM
For me Alice & The Tain(Great epic feeling)..If you do Alice i would like to see some big steamy pipesmoking CAtepillar please:D

11 November 2008, 10:55 PM
Hey Theresa,

Gosh you work really hard and I can see you have a lot of fun with your concepts and sketches :D. Like that you explore many options, simply cool :D

My favourites are Alice ( love the fantasy emotion on it :D) and Tain ( that image has a greet legend mood and atmosphere) and if I can choose one of this two maybe go for Tain :D

Again, super cool works!!

( I´m bit worried too, because I dont know if all legends of any part of the world or cultures can fit the challenge theme ... oh, but the fun and best part of these challenges is that we can share our works, creativity and friendship :D)

11 November 2008, 12:27 AM
Theresa oh my! - so this is where you are! - now this look's really awesome...
- I'll will follow this one... and best of luck girl!

11 November 2008, 05:25 AM
I really like the Táin bó Culaigne too, so I hope you'll do it after the challenge :)
I'd love to see it finished

11 November 2008, 09:18 AM
Hi Theresa,

Where all those ideas are coming from?! You have a wild imagination :)
The Tain and Alice I am voting for...

I have see your posts in other people's threads, and got curious to see what you do. Great work!

11 November 2008, 12:55 PM
Thanks, everyone! :love:

I don't have the internet at home right now, but be assured I'm working on something....all will be revealed soon...

OKMER: Big steamy caterpillar on the way, you can be assured of that. :D

EDIT: Darn it, more ideas.

How about this, steampunk'd,
with the 'first' discoverers being...wait for it...

and they are all ?? at the -ish stuff? borrow from the americans....

Johnny Appleseed, planting seeds which SUDDENLY spring up into massive sequoias
which are steampunk'd with steam coming out from each little knot in the bark. Johnny appleseed is looking up at them


11 November 2008, 02:50 PM
It looks like yours is going to be a lot of fun. Keep up the great work. I love the colour choices.

11 November 2008, 06:58 AM
Again more ideas ? are you crazy my little pretty monster :scream:

As I don't used the easter island in my project, of course, I will be curious to watch you idea fo this one... but, I think that will be soon the time to take your decision, no ?

Have a nice day... :wavey:

11 November 2008, 07:55 PM (

Easter Island was actually the playground for a Victorian scientist/engineer. When he died in 1867, he left the pieces of his experiment scattered around the island. In 2009, the tribesmen from an island 50 miles away happened upon the island. They thought they were seeing a civilization far more advanced than our own...

Does this count as a myth/legend, as Easter Island is a 'modern day myth'?

EDIT: My 'dreamweaver' pic got five stars! I know the star system is flawed and it doesn't mean anything, but it's still nice nonetheless...thanks to all those who voted for it.

11 November 2008, 08:11 PM (

Uploaded wrong version, sorry...

11 November 2008, 09:05 PM
I like this one! I like this one!! it's so simple but so nice and cute!

11 November 2008, 09:21 PM
that's appear already very good...

and that make me much pleasure to see the Easter Island concept... I like this one... :love:

11 November 2008, 12:17 PM
oh the last one is nice!! but I know you have more idea to come!
hehehehe wait for more!!

11 November 2008, 12:29 PM
Yesss, for me it's this one, totaly!
Love the idea and i think you'll really have tons of fun working out this one.
And why Alice could'nt live on easterisland hun?

11 November 2008, 12:40 PM
This looks like a really good concept, like starting scene for a Pixar movie!
The scale and especially colors are awesome!

11 November 2008, 12:45 PM
It is so exciting that people like U have so great concepts - Where U find it? Just in your head?:)

11 November 2008, 01:57 PM
I love your style!

11 November 2008, 04:22 PM
... I might steal some of your discarded concepts ... :D

Last one is so cool. But I think I like the wrong version better :)
There you get the feeling that the Statues are looking into the wide Pacific ocean.

11 November 2008, 05:51 PM
very cute concept theresa! :love: and yes .. without a doubt .. i love your style! :bounce:

11 November 2008, 06:30 PM
Beautiful concepts u got there.Which one are u going to follow?
I like the easter island a lot thanks for sharing:thumbsup:

11 November 2008, 07:37 PM (

I'm REALLY curious to see if anyone else can figure out which legend this is. It seems clear enough to me, but I don't know if this tells the story well enough.

Clue: Another Irish person tackled this topic...not necessarily an artist...but that's the only clue I'm giving you!
Guess away!

11 November 2008, 09:52 PM
Little Miss Muffet?

11 November 2008, 10:15 PM
Is it a far Eastern legend? The style harkens Japenese to me.or perhaps my perspective is somewhat skewed.:)

I love what your brain has poured into your pencil so far.Best of luck(of the Irish) i'm allowed to use the pun by the way.:blush:

11 November 2008, 12:59 AM
Damn missed this thread till now, tis quite intensive, well done to you for creating such cool concepts. The Alice one, Easter Island and Taín ones were my favourites. All were cool though. Not sure what that last myth is

11 November 2008, 01:36 AM
cant pick what it is at all...hahah i thought it was your alice one...

looks cool tho...nice style :)

11 November 2008, 02:55 AM
is this cinerella? apple and stuff?

11 November 2008, 07:11 AM
Lemog: I'm glad you like it. I'm going over to your thread now to spam it some more. :D Quicktime isn't working on my lappy so I can't view the animations...darnit...any suggestions, people? (I need more RAM at any rate)

Monsit: :blush: I think I'm done for now...

OKMER: I rather like the Easter Island one myself. I'm drawn to the cheerful colours like a moth to an open flame, although hopfully this will be less dangerous for me...or maybe not?

Varma: thanks :love: I love pixar's concepts and it's always been a dream that I may someday in the deep, dark, distant future (through twisty forest vines, etc) work for them in their visual development department or something....that sound be coolness par excellence. :cool: I have a long road ahead of me, though...

Kera: nothing is original anymore. :) I got the idea for the last one actually from looking at some Mucha pictures, I really liked the style, then this popped into my head. The Easter island one, though, was totally random. I have no idea where it came from...a bit scary, perhaps? :argh:

Jakyll: thank you...! :hug:

Marlon: Don't make me have to sharpen my wacom pen *again*. I agree with you about the 'wrong' version, it seems a bit more epic. The original sketch is quite different, though- I'll post it up and you can see what I mean. It's didn't seem to translate as well to paint?

nwiz: Thank you. :love:

Micro26: The choice now is between Easter Island and Tain. I liked Alice, but I was thinking about what Walrus said about Tenniel's drawings, he really did pin Alice down and there's no way I can better that, it's too much of a part of Alice. Then, I read this poem and that settled it for me:

I Think Continually Of Those Who Were Truly Great
Stephen Spender

I think continually of those who were truly great.
Who, from the womb, remembered the soul's history
Through corridors of light where the hours are suns
Endless and singing. Whose lovely ambition
Was that their lips, still touched with fire,
Should tell of the Spirit clothed from head to foot in song.
(more here (

Tobias: Afraid not.

Musashidan: I see what you mean about it looking japanese-ish, and you're correct, but it's not because of the myth, rather because I've been looking at too much Art Nouveau... nice to see more irish people around here! Cad é mar atá an saol agat?

Subedei: Another one of our people! Cén chaoi a bhfuil tú?

Cyberone: Just cuz it's yellow doesn't mean it's Alice! :D

Disco stu (the one and only) No, afraid not...although if you look closely, you'll find it's not an apple on the plate, but a HEAD...yes, a mecha head.

It's Salome.


Salome or Salomé (Greek Σαλωμη) the Daughter of Herodias ( (c AD 14 - between 62 and 71), is known from the New Testament ( (Mark ( 6:21-29 and Matt ( 14:6-11, where, however, her name is not given ( in connection with the death of John the Baptist ( Another source from Antiquity, Flavius Josephus (' Jewish Antiquities (, gives her name and some detail about her family relations.

Christian traditions depict her as an icon of dangerous female seductiveness, for instance depicting as erotic her dance mentioned in the New Testament (in some later transformations further iconised to the dance of the seven veils (, or concentrate on her lighthearted and cold foolishness that, according to the gospels, led to John the Baptist ('s death. A new ramification was added by Oscar Wilde (, who in his play Salome ( let her devolve into a necrophiliac (, killed the same day as the man whose death she had requested. This last interpretation, made even more memorable by Richard Strauss's opera ( based on Wilde, is not consistent with Josephus' account; according to the Romanized Jewish historian, she lived long enough to marry twice and raise several children.

11 November 2008, 07:48 AM
I'm really loving your exploration of themes! So many creative choices!

11 November 2008, 09:54 AM
It's a real treat going through this thread. So many excellent ideas and so many superb sketches. Yep, Easter Island looks really good too

11 November 2008, 11:07 AM
Ooo, I like the last one a lot; love the colors and the style. Hope to see it more developed and bigger! And a little more clear?

Keep the updates coming :D

11 November 2008, 12:50 PM
Im grand, my Gaeilge is very foggy at this stage. About the most prominent thing I can remember is from primary school is "An Bhfuil cead agam ag dul go dti an Leithris?" :D

Anyway, all Jokes aside, your work is great, ádh mór ort with the rest of it! slán.

11 November 2008, 04:51 PM
last colors looks great :thumbsup:

11 November 2008, 09:09 PM
Lemog: I'm glad you like it. I'm going over to your thread now to spam it some more. :D Quicktime isn't working on my lappy so I can't view the animations...darnit...any suggestions, people? (I need more RAM at any rate)
Quicktime ? these animations was not in quicktime... just some AVI DIVX... :argh:

11 November 2008, 09:30 PM
oooh, Salome would be a really interesting story to interpret. But then again. ALL your concepts so far have been really interesting... but I'm just really liking the Salome idea. Anyways, I love seeing your sketches - always inspiring.

11 November 2008, 09:35 PM
Odd, it says I need to upgrade quicktime. Let me check again.

11 November 2008, 10:01 PM
I really like your #8 concept (Tain?). It has a nice composition and you'll have a lot of room on that bull to add plenty of gadgetry. The Easter Island concept is also interesting.
Good luck!

11 November 2008, 08:30 AM (

Ideas and styles for queen meadbh. Please note that where her head looks unusually large, that's the area for the crown. :)

11 November 2008, 10:18 AM
Salome steampunk version?
Go go go :thumbsup:
ps: Just dont go for the splutter version i have a weak stomach:D

11 November 2008, 11:44 AM
HEY...Theresa...LONG TIME:D ..Great to see your works again..Deffenitly put a smile on my face:)

Some great ideas happening,..they all have great things happening in them.:applause:
I personally like the one with the bull best..nice composition..:thumbsup:

Anyway...BEST OF LUCK..Theresa..and HAVE FUN..:bounce:

11 November 2008, 12:13 PM
I like the B pose... but it's very difficult to have the good advice for the moment...

G is also very good... event better but the left arm seem a bit uncomfortable :wise:

11 November 2008, 03:05 PM
E and G feel the most dynamic and confrontational to me. Dunno if that's appropriate to the myth or not, but i like them.... G more because it has a clearer silhouette, although it would read even more clearly if you lowered he right arm so there was a bit more white space between the arm and spear(?).

Also, loved your comment on the thread about the myths of carousels. You're too funny! :D

11 November 2008, 09:10 PM
i wonder how many folks are using that watch on page 10 i know i did XD

cant wait for more!

11 November 2008, 09:26 PM
Goodness Theresa, you're rocking here. I like the Steampunk Alice. I did a Steampunk Alice 'pin-up' a bit a go. I wish one could submit old work... ;)

11 November 2008, 10:04 PM
No fair, Aly! Besides, we want to torture some new work out of you...watching it is fun..! (p.s, thanks for your very kind comments in my snowy wilderness gallery thread!)

Slav: I'm gonna use it too. :D It can be a sort of steampunk rite the godrays of 'Journey Begins', who else remembers that!? Everyone tried to put a godray in there somewhere, lol.

The judges probably got a bit suspicious after the nth godray, lol.

Micro: Wish I could do ALL of them-- maybe I'll do them all on the side! As in, not for my main challenge, but I like most of them in some way or an eye on the gallery/my portfolio, heh. 3 months is a long time, after all.

Glenn: Smiles on faces, that's what we're all here for...I will definitely have fun, it's always a given when there's a wacom nearby, for me at least...

Laurent:: ouioui, i see what you mean, the arm is too short at the elbow, hopefully I would have spotted that by the 3 month mark though. :D I think I have a couple more concepts for her up my sleeve, maybe tonight?

walrus: :D Carousels are fun anyway, my earliest memory is getting lost near a carousel and being found by a hippy woman who helped me find her mother, then she gave me one of her hippy necklaces... that surprised me so much I stopped crying for my mother. (I think I was about 3 or 4?) I still have that necklace, it's a hide and clay-bead one...maybe I'll include it in my picture somewhere, I could see ancient queens wearing hide and clay bead necklaces...


Side note: Today I went to the library in my college and got out the Táin bó Culaigne, to see what I could see. Here's a summary:

''The Cattle-Raid of Cooley'' exists in several versions, the oldest of which goes back probably to the 8thC. The tale opens with the famous 'pillow-talk'- a racy dialogue between Queen Medbh of Connacht (which is where I am from!) and her hen-pecked husband, Ailill. The queen, on finding that her possessions equal those of her husband, except for one bull, the white0horned of Connacht, determines to make up the defiency by gaining possession of the most famous bull in Ireland, the Donn of Cooley, which i sthe property of Daire, a chieftain of Ulster. When Medbh learns that she cannot obtain the Donn as a loan, she determines to take the animal by force and gathers an army to invade Ulster. Owing to the temporary debility of all the adult warriors of Ulster, the seventeen year old Cuchulainn undertakes to oppose Medbh's host single-handed. When medb hears of Cuchulainn, sheinquires about him from the Ulster exils in her army and learns of his boyish exploits,

As the result of an agreement between Medb and Cuchulainn, the champion meets at a ford on the border of the two provinces a single connacht warrior each day over a period extending from Samhain (that is, Hallowe'en) until the beginning of spring. The men of Connacht finally succeed in invading Ulster and carrying off the Donn of Cooley, but they are later defeated by the ulstermen, now restored to their normal strength, The Donn of Cooley, after slaying the White horned of Connacht, returns to his native district and utters mad bellowings of triumph until his heart bursts and he dies. The combat between Cuchulainn and his friend Ferdiad is one of the most famous passages in early irish literature.

Here's how they describe Cuchulainn:

'In the front of this chariot is a man with fair, curly, long hair. There is around him a cloak, blue, parthian purple, A spear with red and keen-cutting blades, flaming-red in his hand. The semblance of three heads of hair he has, namely, brown hair next to the skin of his head, blood-red in the middle, a crown of gold is the third head of hair. Beautiful is the arrangement of that hair so that it makes three coils down behind over his shoulders. Even as a thread of gold it seems....yellow of bees...shining of each single hair of his head (it goes on in this vein for some time) toes he has on each of his feet and seven fingers on each of his hands and the brilliance of a very great fire is around his eye,.'

11 November 2008, 10:47 AM (

Just a few thoughts on the clothing for the Danaan army and also cuchulainn's face...

11 November 2008, 01:08 PM

good character design with good attitude..!!
best wishes..:beer:

cheers { win Nintendo wii}

12 December 2008, 03:45 PM
nice and fresh concept. Looking forward to see more

12 December 2008, 11:40 PM
The hounds of lov... um The Hounds of the Morrigan.
I remeber reading it years ago and loved it, took you places, please do that one. :bounce:

12 December 2008, 06:18 PM
I'll update before too long, I promise. Right now I'm in the middle of my last week before Christmas at university and it's rather insane...lots of things due! Tomorrow, though, I'm free---- then I'm going to do a bit of visiting people- THEN I'll settle down and do moar paintingz!

(I still haven't fully decided which piece I'll go with, maybe I'll do more than one and decide at the end?!)

12 December 2008, 02:31 AM (

Trying to get together some ideas for Meabh. I like her face (which was cobbled together during lectures today, as usual), but I'm not sure what sort of vibe I want her to give off...I'll see once everything's put together...

12 December 2008, 11:03 AM
Great studies THeresa ,they've got great personality, I really like!
Gotta get myself a wacth like that now :-)

12 December 2008, 12:06 AM (

Enough faffing about. I restructured it to give it a bit more of an epic feeling and make the composition flow a bit better- it was rather cramped before.

12 December 2008, 01:13 AM
Theresa- it's nice to see you getting around to the more final layout. i have two main suggestions: First, the bull looks really really long for the angle we're seeing him at. If we're seeing that much of a front view like his head it at than he's be incredibly long, like a Dachshund/Bull crossbreed! I'd suggest making him shorter. Secondly, I love how he closes off the space on the left, but by comparison, it might be nice to frame the space on the left too. Here's what I mean:

I have no idea what that is on the left - a tree? a cliff? some Victorian metalwork with scrolly bits? Anyhow, just some ideas... Good luck! :)

12 December 2008, 09:01 AM
Really like the composition and framing... very well adapted if you keep it !

I'm also ok with Walrus proposal, a foreground steampunk detail will be a nice addition... :thumbsup:

12 December 2008, 01:04 PM (

I've decided to do both of these images! I like them both for different reasons, so I'm just going to go ahead with both, alternating when I feel like it. It'll stop me going insane with a single picture and hopefully it will produce two good images at the end- good for the old portfolio (which is the main reason I'm here anyway).

12 December 2008, 01:13 PM
Michael: I lol'd at the idea of a giant daschund/bull crossbreed! (bullhund? daschbull?)

I agree with you that our daschbull is a bit too long and also that the image needs to be 'closed off' at the other end, but having something so bold there closes in the whole image a little too much...hmm...flock of birds? Dark clouds?

Laurent, mo deartháir fhrancaigh (my french brother :p), J'aime aussi le adaptation, nous allons voir comment il va, oui?

12 December 2008, 03:11 PM
I really like this layout. Nice colors too.

12 December 2008, 04:41 PM
The both finally... yep... that could be possible...

I'm especially happy becauce the Steampunk Socks Moah Version was my prefered :beer:

12 December 2008, 05:57 PM
Steampunk Easter Island looks terrific, great idea!

12 December 2008, 04:56 AM
I actually like the Easter island steampunk style. It seems perfect! If you have played the Myst games, you will know what I mean :)

It is good to go in both directions so that you can pick the better one as your final.

12 December 2008, 05:18 AM
Hi theresa! I like the bull version over the easter island one

12 December 2008, 01:28 PM
Hi Theresa! I like your idea and I like the palette of colors used.
Keep walking and good luck for you. :)

12 December 2008, 03:51 PM (

I felt the color was too saturated, so I toned things down a bit...I think the composition needs a bit of jiggling though. Ideas?

12 December 2008, 05:05 PM (

More detail in the figures

12 December 2008, 05:32 PM
Thinking that the colors could stay saturated. Wondering what would happen if those heads were just a piece of a larger character—like a full mechanical robot thing that could be under assembly. Agree that the overall composition needs realigned a bit. Love the colors and the direction! Keep it up.

12 December 2008, 04:54 AM
I love your art.
The colors make me every day happy.
Try to finish this contest.

12 December 2008, 07:07 AM
Colors and ambience are oka for me... just maybe the framing a bit too close, especially at the top of the moah head... no breath for smoke !
Waiting impatiently for more... nice day for you :wavey:

12 December 2008, 10:32 AM
this is great :)
i've always had a strange fasination with easter island. quite a tragic behind it too.
nice work.

12 December 2008, 02:08 AM (

working on the composition of the bull image..

12 December 2008, 09:50 PM
Hi Theresa,

I posted a little flabbergasted message to you about what I have seen in this thread so far.

I am not sure which thumbnail to pick.
With that giant bull thing I think you need scale, like mad, like crushingly bewilderingly mad scale. (squeezing the last bit of "overwhelm" out of perspective, too)

A bit like so:
(click the thumbnail of the woman)

On another note, I love both the easter islands and the cave concept.
Someone hinted at making up a subterranean body for the easter island heads.
Might very well be worth it.

You rock.

01 January 2009, 12:25 PM (

Here I applied some harmonic composition lines and rearranged my subject within these guidelines. I think it looks a bit better now...

01 January 2009, 03:08 PM
Harmonic Composistion lines? I haven't heard of those before, but it looks like they hit upon 9 grids 4 points of interest. Is there a lot of rules with this type of composistion?

01 January 2009, 03:44 PM
It's something that has been floating around for centuries, discovered by Pythagoras, in fact. The following excerpts are from Juliette Aristides' Classical Atelier Painting:

...Compositional schemes and their accompanying philosophies have come in different forms over the centuries....yet none has dominated the art worlds of the past so much (and none is as little known today) as the composition schemes based on harmonic proportion. This particular field of design owes its discovery to Pythagoras.

....legend has it that in 500 B.C.E, Pythagoras was walking past a blacksmiths' shop when he noticed that each of the sounds emanating from the hammers hitting the anvil was different. He went into the shop to investigate and discovered that the different sounds were caused by the avarious sizes and weights of the hammer. This led to his discovery that number, e.g the size and weight of the hammer, creates a physical effect in space and time ( in this case a sound)..

Pythagoras wanted to further investigate this mysterious connection between number and physical reality as it is manifested through sound. To do so, he conducted experiments with musical strings of different lengths. Pythagoras found, like hammers, the shorter strings (smaller numbers) produced higher pitched sounds and vice versa. H ethen made a startling discovery. First, eh struck teh string, Then, ehile it was vibrating, he lightly touched his finger along teh string. In most places, this deadened the sound. Yet in a few places a remarkable physical phenomenon occurred- the clear and pleasing ringing of a musical tone. The new tones were created at the one half, two thirds and three quarters divisions of the string when measuring the string from right to left. When measuring the string from left to right, however, these tones are created at the one quarter, one third and one half divisions.

...these pleasing tones are called 'harmonics' or 'musicial root harmonies'. They are the result of the sting taking a new physical form called a sinusoidal wave when it is pressed at the one half, two thirds and three quarter division points. We now refer to these key positions along the string as the 'octave', the 'perfect fifth' and the 'perfect fourth' respectively....

....Curiously, the same ratios that are pleasing to our ears provide pleasing intervals to our eyes. Throughout history, master artists have used the harmonic ratios discovered by pythagoras....

This site explains how to construct the armature. I used a rather simplified form of it-

and here is the original armature from Bouleau:

01 January 2009, 01:13 AM (

I'm going in deep- I did everything except the bull and the area immediately around it. I'll do the bull, do another overall pass then I'm done!

Crits would be VERY appreciated at this stage!

01 January 2009, 01:15 AM
MASSIVE BULL!!! i love it!:cool:

01 January 2009, 10:47 AM
Thank you! I'm working in detail now- here are a couple of close ups: I'm doing everything once now, then I'll do another overall once over. Crits please!

The bull's eyes are not finished yet- just so you know!

01 January 2009, 11:12 AM
Hi Theresa,

The image looks great! LOVE close ups, specially the bull!

And thanks so much for shearing the Harmonic Composition lines - it's something to study, and a kind of thing I have been looking for some time now :)

01 January 2009, 11:19 AM (

Working in some detail now- I'm doing everything once now, then I'm going to fix the annoying tiddly bits, then another pass to clean everything up and put the finishing touches on. Harsh crits wanted, please- that's the main reason why I'm here, after all! For those who have commented, thanks for your kind comments!

01 January 2009, 12:06 PM (

This is how it looks overall now. It looks better in the larger version though. I'm using pretty small brushes now in some areas!

01 January 2009, 01:07 PM
I put a bar on the top to give me more room- it felt kind of cramped before, but this might make the bull look less huge? What do you think?

01 January 2009, 01:40 PM

01 January 2009, 02:23 PM
Theresa - Good to see you're still working on this. It's coming along nicely - I love the colors, especially the bull. The nose looks a bit out of whack on the closeups: Looking at the top half of the head, it's clear it's turned towards the main characters, so that we see more of the screen-right (bull's left) side of this face. But when you look down at the nostrils, both seem to be rendered as if it's a perfectly front view.

I can't tell what you're doing in the upper left with a few twigs up there. There's not enough information to really tell what's going on so it's just confusing. Don't try to split the difference between post #186 and post #187 - there is no #186-and-a-half! :) Either show a tree or don't, but it's not helping you to show 3 twigs.

The fire in the eyes is interesting but how does it look all zoomed out. You may want to think about exaggerating the smoke a lot more. He is a massive and scary adversary after all!

Good luck with the rest! :thumbsup:

01 January 2009, 02:50 PM
Thanks for commenting, Michael. I know what you mean about the nose- it was bugging me as well. I tried changing it- here's the closeup and also a zoomed out version of the whole thing. I still have a ways to go...

here's the zoomed out version- you can see I tried 'fixing' the tree. I'm still unsure as to whether I'm going to put one there or maybe just a darker cloud- there really isn't a place for a tree to grow there, if you know what I mean?

01 January 2009, 03:20 PM
Tree or cloud? Cloud or tree?

01 January 2009, 10:54 PM (

Getting closer all the time...I felt the centre of the image lacked something, so now he has fiery steam coming out of his nostrils like every good steampunk bull should!

Please crit so I can fix up any horrible bits before the final once over! BE HARSH.

01 January 2009, 12:10 AM
Well, okay...

The expression of the bull is important: it's the only face we can see in the picture. I like the new nose but with the mouth slightly ajar, he looks a bit stupefied. Adding to this expression are the multiple ridges above the eyes, which remind me of the crinkles your forehead gets when your eyebrows are raised. The combo makes him come off as a little dense, not angry and mean. Think about what forms on the face help express anger: Downturned sidess of mouth, eyebrows down in just the center... try to bring these forms into his face if you want him to look angry.

The bull feels sufficiently fogged bu the atmospheric hazing but the soldiers in front of him don't as much so they read as tiny.

And the person standing in the front left of the picture. Does (s)he actually have a neck? She should...

Oh, and just so i don't sound totally harsh:
Happy Birthday! :D

01 January 2009, 12:31 AM (

On walrus's recommendations, I tried making the bull a bit angrier- I really should have done this earlier but I got a bit obsessed with making the rust effect and didn't see the forest for the trees...must stop doing that.

Any better?

P.S- Thanks for the birthday wishes, Michael! :love:

01 January 2009, 10:51 PM (

I fixed up the clouds somewhat, put more atmospheric 'fog' over the people, fixed the middle ground up a bit, fixed up the head of Cuchulainn and Ferdiad and...made the bull angrier, with a furrowed brow and a downturned mouth. I also worked on the smoke from the nose and the chimneys....

01 January 2009, 10:56 PM
That bull's great Theresa. It has energy and presence and is incredibly imposing. The composition according to your layout earlier is a flattened unicursal hexagram. Just thought I'd say! :)

01 January 2009, 02:23 AM
That bull's great Theresa. It has energy and presence and is incredibly imposing.

Thank you! That's the feeling I was going for, I'm glad you can tell. Some things need quite a bit of polishing- particularly the sky. I hate doing clouds- they never look like proper clouds!

The composition according to your layout earlier is a flattened unicursal hexagram. Just thought I'd say! :)

Really? I'd never heard of those, so of course I had to wiki it- and apparently
The unicursal hexagram is used to express a high level of self-confidence ( and belief that one can achieve the highest of goals and become a divine ( figure.

Hahahaha...I just hope no one thought I used it on purpose! Although I like the idea of becoming a divine figure...ahem...if anyone's looking...;)

01 January 2009, 05:06 PM

I think I may be finished....everything looks 'good' to me at least!

What do you think? Should I push it a bit further or can I call this finished?

01 January 2009, 05:50 PM
Looking really nice, Theresa. Great work so far, and the bull is looking quite mean. Two comments: It still looks like the standing woman has no neck. and secondly, while I love the dark clouds on the left, they feel a bit overworked with the small hard brush. That's not a brush that lends itself well to cloudiness, and the squiggles in the sky are distracting.
Just my small suggestions. Hope you had a good birthday, and glad your liking The Guild so far!

01 January 2009, 06:22 PM
Lol- even though I never played WoW, The Guild was entertaining! I had a great birthday (with the unexpected present of an ipod iTouch from the family!) I'm going to download the brushes app ( so that I have my own portable photoshop, like a mini cintiq, nearly. :D I know, I'm obsessed.

Here's another render with your ideas taken on board- I used a softer brush for the clouds and made his (he is a male! Cúchulainn- they had long hair back in those days!) neck here we go...

01 January 2009, 08:36 PM
Such an atmosphere, such a charm … I like It, definitely! Keep your art style, it is great!

01 January 2009, 11:53 AM
Thank you, ravensbane! I made a few small changes to the clouds, but I think it's pretty much finished now and I'm about to upload it- but the servers aren't working!

01 January 2009, 12:19 PM
Very nice mood and atmosphere. Nice concept:) Congratulations and good luck with uploading.

01 January 2009, 12:21 PM
Are you using the Challenge up loader for uploading?

01 January 2009, 12:41 PM
Yes, but as it stands I'm getting a MYSQL error- but Leigh has assured me they're aware of this problem and everyone will be able to upload when the servers are back up. So now I just need to relax and think about my next about this: a city street but instead of a road/sidewalks, you step out of the shops into a beautiful garden...with birds of paradise and gazelles...ahhhh...

01 January 2009, 01:19 PM
I had nothing to say these last days... I've followed a little the progress... without words...

sorry, that was like that maybe because I've like a lot the Easter Island story... huhu

Just now... that comes very good... I really like how you enlight the edge of the bull... the comp start to have the little plus wich make the difference...
...I think you must push further this backlight effect around the beast... to have much more contrats between his little steampunks pieces.

This way is so good... that comes to be very epic :thumbsup:
it's certainly what the most of us want to see in your realization... bravo Peppie :arteest:

01 January 2009, 02:27 PM
I like all the changes you made in the last iteration. They're all very effective! You could call it done... but even before I read his posy, I was thinking the same thing as Lemog. About the backlighting, not the Easter Island entry. It might be nice to see some really burnished hilights on the few areas that are facing the sun. That's all. :thumbsup:

01 January 2009, 02:59 PM
Well.....pour Lemog:

Easter Island: during Victorian times, an insane scientist set up shop on a remote island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, where he intended to build a colossus that would rival that at Rhodes. The Scientist's weakness for cute squirrels led to his downfall, however, when he contracted rabies and died violently. Some hundreds of years later, Easter Island was discovered by explorers....

and I burnished the highlights up on the bull somewhat:is this too much burnishing though??

Just out of curiosity- which one do you prefer?!

01 January 2009, 04:05 PM
Héhé Thanks a lot for Easter Island... so good for me... that will be my new wallpaper :beer:

About the highlights... I'm okay with you... it's a bit too much... not awful of course... but that give a more dark aspect to the rest... between and you will have the good average :arteest:

01 January 2009, 04:53 PM
Looks like you are finished ,already thinking of the next paintings:D

Congratulations, this is a very impressive picture indeed! I like very much the composition and the mood. Good luck with the upload then!:)



01 January 2009, 09:34 PM
whoa, that's awesome work Theresa!
I also love the Easter Island piece, lovely colours.

Maybe ad some haze, tone down the contrast on the bull a bit. This will emphasize the distance and the hugeness of the bull, I think.

01 January 2009, 10:04 PM
It now looks like this!

Laurent....your wallpaper? :blush: I hope you enjoy it....after all, I know Easter Island is special for you!

dawinky: Of course- my best and favourite painting is always the next one. :D

Marlon: I tried putting haze around the front of the bull, but it just made it look too foggy- it's the focal point, after all- and it just didn't seem to sit well. I did tone down the contrast a fair bit though, particularly towards its rear end! Glad to see you around- are you still in the challenge?!!?

The CGUploader doesn't seem to be working (servers?) so I'll start working on the others I liked...the gold rush next... :D

01 January 2009, 05:06 AM (

Software: Photoshop

Everyone who grows up in Ireland is initiated early in this legend- the epic tale of Cúchulainn the hero (the name means Hound of Culainn) who battles his best friend Ferdiad at a ford- this comes as the ultimate battle after Cuchulainn has spent all the days from Samháin (Halloween) until the first day of Spring in fighting the men from Queen Medbh's army.

Why is he doing this? Medbh is a jealous queen and the story starts with her stocking up all her possessions against her husbands'. When she discovers their possessions are equal, save one bull- a white one- that her husband owns, she vows to get her hands upon the greatest bull in all of Ireland- the great Brown Bull of Cooley, who belongs to the king of Ulster. She brings her army up to Ulster, only to discover that the way is blocked with Cuchulainn. In enquiring about him, she hears about the heroic stories of his youth and childhood.
Can anyone beat him? The one man who grew up with Cúchulainn is his equal-Ferdiad. The Queen then invites Ferdiad to her castle, gets him drunk and, while he is in his bragging state, shames him into agreeing to the battle. Afterwards, his gillie (sort of like a squire?) tries to convince him not to fight his best friend- but his sense of pride is too great.
In this image you see the moment where Cúchulainn and his gillie are scoping out the area around the ford, with the army of Medbh behind. I tried to make the bull as imposing as possible, to show its status in Irish legend and also because giant bulls are fun to draw. :D

I'd like to thank everyone on the forums for their help, particularly those who criticised constructively- you know who you are!- and helped me to push myself a bit further. I learned a lot in this challenge. Thank you to everyone!

01 January 2009, 07:31 PM
Woooo, yeah that's it!
Congratulations Theresa for finishing :bounce:

Me? Work and life got in the way. Anyway, intentions were good :)

01 January 2009, 08:23 PM
Thanks! It was a long road...but....I learned a lot through it, had fun and now have an extra piece for the old portfolio (or two).

Speaking of which- you can now see the Steampunk Easter Island image in the gallery here: :)

01 January 2009, 09:46 PM
Hey - you've finished! Congrats on a beautiful image. Great work!

01 January 2009, 04:20 AM
You've made it congrats. :thumbsup:

01 January 2009, 09:59 PM
Congratulations Peppie... it's fine to see the finished masterpiece...

In anyway, I've apprecied a lot your creation way... you're always very imaginative and artistic... it's always much pleasure it's time to discover what you brain would show us :scream:

Great challenge :bowdown:

01 January 2009, 04:19 AM
Congratulations. Great job:)

01 January 2009, 12:29 PM
Marlon: You have a week left! Get on it, man!

Gunilla: Thank you. :D I love your image too!

nash: I thought it would never end. :D

lemogais: merci! Je suis impatient de voir que vous avez terminé de trop! pas beaucoup de temps. je vous remercie de commenter dans mon thread. vous avez vraiment encouragé moi!

madshooter: Thanks. :D

01 January 2009, 12:08 AM
Congrats on the finished image paperclip; many paintings enjoyed along the way too :P

01 January 2009, 09:44 PM
hey Theresa,

Haha love the bull design, very stylized too, the colors worked well too, love the theme

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01 January 2009, 10:52 AM
i dunno i think this is a pretty cool image, especially the massive bull.

mine yea i had a lot of troubles with it and not much time, but at least
did finish for a change :shrug: :)