Lost Adventurer, Aleks Kirilenko (3D)
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06-06-2003, 08:10 PM
This is my Spot! ...not sure I could start/finish but I'll give it a shot.

The Story:

The Adventures of Kiako son of Khefron

The Mistique Disappearance of the Urmozdians

Kiako, a wild naive Gile from the Abian clan and his trusting mighty Gergin named Arishak, are investigating the inexplicable disappearance of the mythic ancient people of Urmozd who once ruled the planet Mezenithopias in the Shra-kashahama-suna system, long time ago.
Your mission in this first (or third) person action/adventure game is to guide kiako in his jurney to reveal the secret, find any trace and gather any evidences of the Urmozdians' mistique disappearance. Your quest in the deep forests and wide-spreaded saharas of the Mezen is full of the adventures to oppose, surprises to come upon, menaces to defend, foes to defeat & riddles to unravel.

...oh yeah, the concept, here it is: :) (+ the last update)


06-06-2003, 08:33 PM
looking great! :eek:

06-06-2003, 09:17 PM
wow i love the choice of colors... and tons of character! cool!

06-06-2003, 11:32 PM
verry nice concept -(like every time) thanks for the invitation to watch the grow of a new master piece:bounce:

06-07-2003, 12:42 AM
wonderful concept man... love your work in general...:thumbsup:

06-07-2003, 02:41 AM
very nice concept i like it:drool: :bounce: :thumbsup:

06-07-2003, 03:45 AM
So this is where you ended up :scream:

I was so hoping to see you in the animation thread this month but it doenst matter... I just love your work.

Defintely subscribing to this thread!

Good luck Ila

06-07-2003, 08:53 AM
Thank you good fellas :D:thumbsup:
I think all the challenge topics are great, I just haven't made a game art before, so it's a good time for learning that! (actually I made tons of low-poly characters, but not game targeted)
who knows, maybe you'll see me on animation challenge again, where we'll have more fun!

06-07-2003, 12:11 PM

just to add the concept art is awesome.

ROCK ON :bounce: :bounce:

06-07-2003, 12:28 PM
Loving it!!! Looking forward to seeing the end results Y' just gotta finish it!:bounce:


MY SITE (http://www.okse.co.uk)

06-07-2003, 11:25 PM
Cool to see you enter the game art challenge man!:beer: strange I don't see your pic?maybe it's my browser that's buggy..

06-07-2003, 11:44 PM
Hello dear m@, well I can't see either, damn server ... :annoyed:

06-08-2003, 12:27 PM
I cannot see it either................But I am sure it is nice already coming from you Ila.I'll check back later for the fun details.:thumbsup: :beer:

06-08-2003, 01:26 PM
btw I had uploaded the concept to cgchallenge site before! :) so you can check it there if you like.
cheers :beer:

06-08-2003, 09:39 PM
yeah, cool little guy! can't wait to see the 3d stuff :)

Stephen Vyas
06-09-2003, 08:54 AM
Hey ,
Not animating this time around eh? We'll miss ya!
Anyways, just grabbin a spot on your thread. The concept looks mighty cool :)
Cheers Bro!

06-09-2003, 11:59 AM
Not animating this time around eh? We'll miss ya!
not sure steve! ... maybe... :beer:

06-09-2003, 12:24 PM
:bounce: Good luck Ila...the drawing is very beautiful ..:thumbsup: i will wait for 3D version.

genesis max
06-09-2003, 04:37 PM
Hello there Ila :wavey: , i am always amazed when i see your concept art. Why are you competiting in game design, i would love to see hi-res versuion of this cute creatures. If you don't do it i'll do it, if you dont mind, i would love to model this creatures in hi-res.Let me know.
Greets, :beer:

06-09-2003, 11:09 PM
If you don't do it i'll do it, if you dont mind, i would love to model this creatures in hi-res.Let me know.
with my pleasure! :) do that. :thumbsup:

genesis max
06-11-2003, 09:41 AM
Sorry i didn't respond Ila, i really didn't have time, i'v been really busy, had exams and i'm also working on my challenge entry. But i made model sheets, and will probably do the little guy later today, when i make progress. See you back.
Cheers, :beer:

06-13-2003, 10:32 PM
TiMe To ShOw SoMeThInG! ;)

Tripolys #: currently 1845 faces, will be around 2000 for this model.

ChEeRs ... :beer:

06-13-2003, 10:47 PM
That looks pretty solid!
Iīll be back for updates on this one :)

06-14-2003, 12:49 AM
Bring on the beast!

(How many polys did his navel cost you ;) )

06-14-2003, 08:39 AM
:) thanx friends.

(How many polys did his navel cost you )

eight ;)

06-14-2003, 11:56 AM
Hi...he's ready to be textured, I think!
Total poly(face) counter: 2012

Oh!, I think I've forgotten the ears! :D ... ok, while you are reading the STORY (that is in the first post now) I'll make the ears.

06-14-2003, 09:29 PM
yeap! ... ears & some minor adjusments here & there:

06-14-2003, 10:10 PM
wow i really like the concept sketch and the finished lil alien, very nice, cant wait to see the finished product...

06-15-2003, 01:21 PM
:) Thank u Scuba

06-15-2003, 01:37 PM
hehe,i love you :beer:

err,your work :p :applause:

06-15-2003, 06:45 PM
:D thank you ashod, I love (read 'like') you!

these stuff keep you fellas busy while I'm on the pet:

...& I hope you are able to see the crossd eyes stereoscope images!...

06-15-2003, 08:41 PM

Nothing to crit! The proportions seem to match the sketch perfectly. I can't wait to see him posed.


06-15-2003, 09:56 PM
really nice! great design and modelling!
but why lowpoly? "just" a style or why? :)

06-15-2003, 10:02 PM
WOW! Neox is calling me from the high Olimpia! :D thanx a lot for the nice words. :beer:
but why lowpoly? "just" a style or why?
hmmm! ... well ... it's lowpoly because it's for the GAME ART DESIGN CHALLENGE ... & he proudly has only 2046 tripolys ! ;P

06-15-2003, 10:04 PM
oops now i see it... ok i'm stupid :D

good work!

Apt Pupil
06-15-2003, 10:59 PM
It's looking great ila_solomon. It's going to look extremely nice once you add in the textures and I can't wait to see the beasty:)

Keep em coming:wip: :wip:

06-15-2003, 11:03 PM
Yeah, great work here :bounce: ....low poly or high poly doesnt matter to me....thatīs an unique style here and impressed me a lot. :thumbsup:

Really cool work you are doing...keep going and hey when can we play that cool game?

The red Monster is cool as well, show me more...

STEN :applause:

06-16-2003, 05:53 AM
very well done ila

06-16-2003, 03:24 PM
Excellent design and model ila. Never stop amazing me.

06-16-2003, 10:27 PM
:bounce: Love this little devil..lol very cool work :thumbsup:

06-16-2003, 11:25 PM
the stereoscope rocks!! I haven't seen this before on the forum.
Kick ass work Ila :thumbsup:

06-17-2003, 06:08 AM
Great job !
you are Really an Artist !
My eyes are on your job :eek: :eek:
Wish you succeed .

Reza M.

06-17-2003, 05:55 PM
Cool character! I loved Iluyshka the Mouse, and this one can turn into another great character...

But what I really wanted to ask you about is... How did you achieve that stereoscopic effect? It's really, really cool! :surprised
I know the basic concept is to render it twice and just move the camera a bit to simulate the view from the other eye... But is there a science to it... I mean, is there a way to calculate how much to move the camera, should it also be rotated a bit or just moved? Any tips?

06-17-2003, 05:56 PM
Thank you for the encouragement:) I love Kiako - I want a T-shirt featuring him and an action figure... how about some breakfast cereals :bounce: :applause: :bounce:
be sure I will be visiting here to see how Kiako is coming along.:thumbsup:

06-17-2003, 06:03 PM
ila very nice modeling i miss u in the high poly section :) how this cross eye rendering works?

06-17-2003, 06:09 PM
I tried the stereoscopic render on one of my own images, and it works (http://www.childsafetyexperts.com/zzz/stereoGeeBee.jpg)!

Still would appreciate a reply to my previous question, I feel like this could be better.

P.S. Sorry for going off topic in your thread here... Your only way back on topic is to give us more of your great work.:thumbsup:

06-17-2003, 07:20 PM
Neox, Apt Pupil, sten, Massud, Sam, Dimitris, Joril, Reza, Amir, zzzrByte & swag :D :thumbsup: :beer: thank you very much.

first how this stereo works: look to the centre of two pics.
now very slowly cross your eyes, like you are looking to your own nose, when your left eye looks to the right picture & your right eye is exactly looking to the left picture,...TADA, it gets 3D!

& my tech: in max, in top view, I shift move/copy the camera to the left or right, a bit. so now I have two camera which their targets are in a same place. now I set one of the left viewports to the camera which is in the right side of the subject, & the right viewport next to the first one set to the camera which placed in left, ...easy. now practice the crossd eyes stereo with the viewports for test, grab one camera & since your eyes is crossed move it slowly, when you are happy with the depth, render each view & with photoshop paste them onto one canvas. that's it!

06-18-2003, 01:04 AM
Man, that is a cool idea... Playing around with two cameras and adjusting the "crosseyed 3d" in real-time. I'm gonna have to try that!

06-19-2003, 10:43 PM
need some wip? here it is ... yes, very wip:


06-19-2003, 11:27 PM
good start ila - the shape looks like the concept :)
i cant cross my eyes - help:rolleyes:

06-19-2003, 11:34 PM
:D hehe! ok

. put your index finger on your nose & sit in front of the monitor just looking to the stereopic @centre.

. now look @ your finger, your eyes are crossed, but in BG you see the out of focus doubled picture in monitor.

. move you finger while looking to it toward the monitor.

. in a certain place the doubled BG pictures overlap & makes one picture, that supposed to be 3D! (stereoscope)

06-19-2003, 11:54 PM
hahaha not easy but i saw the results for 5 sec now tell me how i can get this orange little guy out of my brain :scream:

06-20-2003, 07:08 AM
Your characters are looking good.

The stereopic image is pretty weird.:eek::surprised :argh:
:D :thumbsup:

06-20-2003, 01:34 PM
wip wip wip : ...

06-20-2003, 02:32 PM
looking very sweet! I really liked your concept. Great idea on the pet. gave your character more personality :bounce:

06-20-2003, 06:34 PM
HI! yes, personality, I think you should wait until texturing & rigging stages! :D thanx for the kind words.

mesh is nearly finished, 2030 faces that must be reduced to about 1900.

06-20-2003, 09:29 PM

06-20-2003, 09:54 PM
:bounce: Man ...what can i say...i really admire your spirit and love for what u do...give to your little child a kiss from Unkle Dimitris from Greece...u have my respect!!!:beer:

06-20-2003, 10:38 PM
:D hahaha! sure ... he's greeting uncle Dimitris,

Atrin: "a'oom ... a'goom ... eh eh ... "

06-21-2003, 07:52 AM
you have a cute boy!! :wavey: God save him .(Bezanam be takhte)
and about your challenge .... your doing awsome
I am here to see the texture .....

06-21-2003, 01:32 PM
I look atrin for first time (manam hamoon ke reza goft)
I wait for the texturing and .....
but the quality of last picture ......

06-24-2003, 04:50 PM
ila i see your boy and i like that -behet tabrik migam(midoonam ke chand saleshe vali man nadide boodamesh)- :thumbsup:
oh your work is very good too

06-24-2003, 08:23 PM
thanks a lot friends
just for your attraction: these are both 512x512 texture sheet templates + the head texture.


06-24-2003, 08:52 PM
That texture looks sweet!
For some reason I canīt see your other pics.... Quite disturbing, because I would very much like to see the mesh with that texture applied to it :)

06-24-2003, 09:53 PM
:) FIXED! sorry, that error was because of the server DNS changing.

06-24-2003, 10:06 PM
ok ok, a wraped head texture test :

06-24-2003, 10:57 PM
Cute little dude you have there Ila, I just wonder if maybe you could draw a couple of little holes as nostrils, thats my only point, otherwise, kick ass as usual!

06-25-2003, 12:27 PM
very nice texture ILA :applause:

06-25-2003, 12:29 PM
Yes yes, nosetrils, I'll put some... thanx! ;)

06-25-2003, 12:47 PM
dose the texture of the body is complete????????or not??????????

06-25-2003, 12:58 PM
NOT! .. as you can see!!!

06-25-2003, 01:04 PM
i can see this :D
really nice so far, but why is the smoothing on his loincloth so strange? isn't it better du make this with an doublesided material then with moddeling it? this would be better for the smoothing and you could use an alphachannel for getting it round :)

:edit: and the uv maps for his body seem to be pretty "stretchy"

06-25-2003, 05:14 PM
neat idea. I give it a shot...but i usually do not like alpha mapping in characters! ;P
about the uv, i have to paint over it wrap it first too see the effect ... I'll let u know then
cheeers neox :)

06-25-2003, 06:07 PM
very cutie !!

06-25-2003, 09:59 PM
Nice character and beast :thumbsup:

You have a some stretching in your texture though on the side of the head between the eyes and the ears, and I would play a little more with the UV's on the blue horns/tentacles or whatever they are ;)

The smoothing problem on the edges of the cloth seems to me to be with the smoothing groups. If you use a 2-sided material, that means a lot of ekstra polygons to be taken into account, when rendering it in-game because then the whole model will have 2-sided materials. If you use smoothing groups, giving the front and the back different smoothing groups, you will avoid the black edges on the edges of cloth, as it won't try to gouraud-shade the front with the back.

06-25-2003, 10:27 PM
Thanx frakke, yes I figured out that problems.
about the cloth smoothing problem, you are right, the back and front faces has a shared group#. will be fixed

06-26-2003, 05:44 AM
Ya .... Nice job.
Don't you wana use any Bump maps?
I think
it would be nice to use bump maps for eyebrows ...
& he's cute enough without any nostrails !!!
Nowadays 3D-G.Cards will handle Hi-res maps + bump + refl.&+ ....

I'm just here to see more :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:thumbsup: Reza Misaghi

06-28-2003, 11:10 PM
:) Hmm, yes...bump maps ... maybe...maybe ...!


06-29-2003, 03:50 AM
Someone bite the nipples off? :eek:

06-29-2003, 11:03 AM
this is excellent stuff ila. haven't been here since the lotr comp months ago. your entry was one of my faves in that: it dared to be different.
i love this new stuff you are doing mate: so much style. well done! :)
if you have developed a taste for game art then i reckon you might wanna head over to cgchat.com. our little gameart area has grown with each successive competition and from what you are doing here i think youd love this months comp (cutsey character double act).
would be great to have you along! i had wanteed to enter this comp but i just dont see that i am going to have time now.
cheers mate! hope to see you there!

06-29-2003, 11:03 PM
Hi Jake, thank you very much, I'm checking the cgchat now!

i think this creature is finished: nipples added!


going for Arishak the Beast!

06-30-2003, 02:18 AM
Very cool! I like it alot, nice to see he received some nipples too :thumbsup:

06-30-2003, 03:11 AM
my only crit is that the color of the head doesn't match the color of the body. other than that grrrrreat!:D

06-30-2003, 08:46 AM
Oh, really? ... I'm color blind! :p

06-30-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by cbadger85
my only crit is that the color of the head doesn't match the color of the body. other than that grrrrreat!:D

Dude, blue and yellow are contrast colors.. it may be your taste but they match eachother! ;)

06-30-2003, 01:30 PM
I guess cbadger85 was refering to the yellow of the head being different from the one on the body, it seems to me that they differnte shades of yellow asw well. the head looks lighter and with a bit of green.

06-30-2003, 02:48 PM
Really nice character Ila, the texture of the hands look really good. The only thing that looks a little off to me is hte red on its feet. It just looks a little out of place with hte surrounding colours. Love the blue hair.

06-30-2003, 02:49 PM
Mr cbadger85 :shame: :shame:

06-30-2003, 10:47 PM
:) yes sure , the head is more yelowish, i said that I'm color blind.
and about the red feet, hmmm ... it look dirty this way! I liked it. but can be more blended with legs.

massoud ... I didn't get the POINT of your post!! :)

07-01-2003, 09:46 AM
I think Cbadger made a good point about the colours, but for someone who's colour blind, it's well good!

Anyway who says your head can't be a different colour to your body! My arms and head are tanned and I look like I've got a white flesh designed t- shirt on!

I wasn't convinced with the yellow at first I liked the original orange pallette in the concept, but I can see now that it works very well.

Brilliant work ila_solomon:applause:


My Game Icon submission. (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67207)

MY SITE (http://www.okse.co.uk)

07-01-2003, 10:04 AM
Thanx Okse , anyway I corrected the color of head, and added some stains , check the last image submisson post for updates (and don't forget to press F5 to refresh!)
:) cheers

07-01-2003, 10:46 PM
Hey dudes...
what's the fastest way for texturing this beast? yes: Maya > Automatic UV mapping > 3D Paint on surface! :) I ended up with this just in an hour: hehe yes that's low detail texture, but worth it.



07-01-2003, 10:47 PM



07-02-2003, 07:22 AM
Jealous :buttrock:

07-02-2003, 10:01 AM
cool! just an hour, huh?
I think it looks real good so far, but I find it a bit too... red! maybe some variation on the colors, keeping a reddish tone as base color?


07-02-2003, 04:20 PM
Some nice stuff here. One of the best in the challenge. I have a few suggestions though...

On the little guy I would darken his horns where they meet the head. It looks a little odd right now.

I would also love to see the texturing done in a more stylised fashion, more like the concept. Not toon shaded exactly but using simpler bolder textures (again like the concept). It might also be nice to put in the line shaded effect near the eyes and under the arms. At the moment I think the detail in the texture is taking something away from it, especially the feet which look smudgy.

07-04-2003, 12:40 AM
why is the texture resolution smaller then the one of your small guy? i mean the small one is great but this is no relation between those too texture resolutions :p

07-04-2003, 07:08 AM
It's looking great, but if you want to put it under a game engine, be careful vith those UVs. You used some automatic mapping (as far as I can see :)), which is easy to paint in a 3d paint program, but in a realtime engine more UV feeds up more power. Anyway, great character, as always! :buttrock:

07-04-2003, 08:33 AM
thank you friends.

...maybe some variation on the colors...
but it already has some ... ok, maybe I add more!
I think the detail in the texture is taking something away from it
donno, maybe it looks a little complex, but really it is not! just noises... :p
why is the texture resolution smaller then the one of your small guy?
Not my fault, not my fault, ask Maya's Automatic UV mapping!!! :) hehehe! also I've painted over the mesh in 3d environment. so it looks crapy (it's a fast method and I'm a lazy boy!)
but if you want to put it under a game engine
No I won't! :D but thank you for the info.

07-04-2003, 03:11 PM
ila thats look great :thumbsup:
u used a wacom for the maya 3d paint? what resolution u setup?

07-04-2003, 11:04 PM
Yes, waccom, straight 3d paint on a 512x512 texture template! (It was so slow when I tried to paint over a 1k rez map :( )

07-05-2003, 11:42 AM
okey ila
but i think if your character's nose was lower most that be better

07-05-2003, 12:18 PM
hmm 1k and it lags ... what gfx u have in your box?

07-05-2003, 10:50 PM
GForce4 4200 128 ddr on an Athlon xp 1700+ with 768 mb ram.
so it shouldn't be slow, nah?

07-05-2003, 11:00 PM

07-07-2003, 09:45 AM
I'm not going to do more, consider it finished!


I'll put the meshes available for Download soon.

07-07-2003, 09:52 AM
i can't see it! i can't see it! :annoyed:
:edit: after posting this, i could see it, good work :edit:

you are using the maya automatic unwrapping? uh very lazy guy! try it with the bau tools, a automatic unwrap routine for maya, a friend of mine scripted for maya, its a little buggy but it gives you clean and effincient unwraps (it works like me :D)

i guess you can get it on highend3d.com

or just go
here (http://www.gfx-scene.de/index.php4?go=tutorial&id=58#)
its in german, but you'll find the english help under the point "online-hilfe", i guess you know what "download" means, so you'll be able to download the script and the last link is just a simple video documentation on how it works (dunno maybe its with german a voice :D)

07-07-2003, 09:21 PM
Simply awesome! Jaw has dropped! im still struggling with textuing lol. :)

07-07-2003, 10:28 PM
Looks great! I like that style of character design! Do you have plans for the characters AFTER the contest?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ila_solomon
[B]I'm not going to do more, consider it finished!

07-07-2003, 10:57 PM

07-07-2003, 10:59 PM
:) big tnx neox, I'm going to check it out now...
thank u Hirigashi & Cyborgguineapig :thumbsup:
zenzmurfy, no, no plan yet...do u have any?! :beer:

07-08-2003, 05:17 AM
cute ........ cute ............
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

07-08-2003, 09:18 AM
Looks great, would be even better to see them posing like in the concept picture on the bottom left :applause:

07-08-2003, 09:52 AM
What happened to the the big red guy? Really great character design but the mapping and texturing is killing it. It looks like a 64x64 texture at the moment and there are noticeable seams everywhere.

You have used a lot of noise in the texture which is why the seams are appearing.

You should spend a bit more time fixing this, it deserves better.

If you don't have time fair enough but I think it could be really good if you put some more work into this.

07-08-2003, 01:04 PM
i am waiting ila
but you dont solve that nose :thumbsup:

07-08-2003, 11:10 PM
no time! sorry friends :thumbsup: :beer: :wavey:

Stephen Vyas
07-08-2003, 11:28 PM
What an entry, congrats! I can see these guys actually being in a video game, which says a lot.
Once again, congrats and goodluck in the voting! :)

07-09-2003, 11:31 AM
okay boy :thumbsup:

07-09-2003, 01:26 PM
can I have some mesh to learn?

07-09-2003, 10:48 PM
Go to my page in download section (www.ilasolomon.com/freestuff.htm) you will find these 2 characters with their textures in fbx format, download the rar file and 'openup' it!

for opening fbx format you must have its plugin (go to www.kaydara.com and DL the FBX plugin)

07-10-2003, 12:05 PM
thanks ila it don't sfx?
which of them?. there are two fbx

07-12-2003, 09:12 AM
Total # of tripolys: 3922




07-12-2003, 09:16 AM

07-12-2003, 02:21 PM
now just the bridle remaind
and the arishak mat dont clearly it's like something copyed from a floppy that had badsector
can you put a better?

07-14-2003, 01:38 PM
I am dissapointed to hear that. It might have been fun to see more of that universe.

Originally posted by ila_solomon

zenzmurfy, no, no plan yet...do u have any?! :beer: [/B]

07-16-2003, 04:04 PM
wow Mr zenzmurfy is posting to ila's theread

good see Mr zenzmurfy to vote

07-17-2003, 04:47 PM
I'd like to post more, but it is difficult. Many of the projects here are technically executed quite well, so it feels strange for me to go around pronouncing that someone's work is good or bad. It's much easier for me to just say I like something when I see something I like.

My only criticism of the challenge entries in general would be whether they're meeting the specifications of the assignment.

Originally posted by Massoud
wow Mr zenzmurfy is posting to ila's theread

good see Mr zenzmurfy to vote

07-27-2003, 10:26 PM
ohhhhh,coo0o0o0oo0ol works here!
im a new member & intrested first!!!
very nice work,nice idea,nice passion,nice tries&....

ila jan khaste nabashi!!!
kheili mareke bood:thumbsup:

07-27-2003, 10:28 PM
va ino mikhastam ezafe konam ke shoma mayeye eftekhar hastid va kare shoma jaye taghdiro tashakore faravani ro dare...;) :drool:

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