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04 April 2002, 06:26 PM
Hi all,

This is my first post here in the gallery section and I thought I'd share with you a few pictures from my first commercial where footage was shot on 35mm film, and all the environment done in 3D using Lightwave. Nothing special really, but a first for me... ;-)
Scenes were tracked using Matchmover and composited in After Effects.
I've worked night-and-day for about 5 weeks to complete it all by myself, 15 shots in total.

I'll post a link to a MPEG file later.

Arne Kaupang :-)

04 April 2002, 07:12 PM
you didn't have an option for "DERN good job", so I gave it five stars. the jpg's look clean and on the mark.

04 April 2002, 08:14 PM
Yeah great job... looking forward to the mpeg!!!! Keep it up!:buttrock: :buttrock:

04 April 2002, 08:20 PM
good light, good compositing, good model :) .
waiting for the mpeg ...
just one thing: the room is blue but the model dont recieve blue light.
i like the 6th image .
realy good :applause:

04 April 2002, 08:27 PM
you have some mistakes in the compositing but it's looking good, waiting for the animation

04 April 2002, 05:06 PM
looks good!

me (knowing nothing about doing this kind of stuff) also wonders about the blue-ishness of the environment/white light on the character. other than that, it's great, especially for a first.

04 April 2002, 04:43 AM
Thanks for feedback. :-)

Yes, I totally agree with the live footage being too warm compared to the background. Strange how you sometimes go blind when you work too intense on a project and can't notice basic flaws...
I've made the live footage more blueish and it works a lot better. (Not sure if it shows properly in this poor QuickTime file though)

Here is a QuickTime .mov file of the clip:

Note, the sound is preliminary as the composers are working on it at the moment. The current track is borrowed from Gladiator, a clip the director provided to the composers to show the style he wants for the music.

Arne :-)

04 April 2002, 04:53 AM
For those who might be interested, here are three pics from the original footage.

Arne :-)

04 April 2002, 03:16 AM
Hey, Arnek,

Just curious how u managed to make the final footage look so much cleaner using only after effects - the brightness/contrast effects in after effects aren't that good! Curious. One more thing, how did u manage to chromakey the green screen and still keep motion blur - no sharp edges!

This aside excellent job, what a difference it makes to see work on a decent medium - I ain't too keen on Digital!


04 April 2002, 04:10 AM
Hi vfx,

Not quite sure about what you mean by cleaner. I've only used curves, levels, brightness and contrast, and the colour correction tools that come with the package.
The motion blur part was kind of tricky yes, as it was impossible to get a good key without making sharp edges. So I brought the footage to someone who had the Re:vision Motion Blur plugin, who added additional motion blur to the problem sequences. Voila! Problem solved. Harsh edges gone. :-)


04 April 2002, 08:50 AM
As a compositer myself, this is a very impressive job.

Ummmmmmmm Composite.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2002, 09:10 AM
I thought the warmness popped her out into the forground more, adding more depth and contrast. Awesome job , what kinda camera was used to shoot the original fooatge?:airguitar

04 April 2002, 02:47 PM
Thank you. :-) Encouraging the get positive responses from people who actually do this kinda stuff for a living.

I'm primarily a graphic designer who's hoping to move more and more into 3D and vfx, but those kind of jobs are kind of hard to come by here in Norway. So I've been lucky to get my hands on a job like this.

Actually the footage was shot on an old 35mm camera from the 1960's... This project was a pilot, to show the client it was possible to get the desired results. So we cut corners and costs wherever possible. Dunno what a normal U.S. budget would be for such a job, but we've managed to get it all done (rent of camera, studio, lights, film, processing and film scan (HD)) for a total of about US$6.000... Yes, I know it is totally redicilous...
Now we're all awaiting green lights from the client, to get the commercial aired, so we'll all get paid in full and to possibly do 5-6 more films (with proper budgets)...

Arne :-)

05 May 2002, 05:06 PM
arnek - excellent work! I just had to say it again. I've been studying this area for the last year and can never expect to see such great results - for a first attempt. Anyway, wondering whether u could put up a making of - that breaks everything down and explains each step of the process.

p.S. What i meant by cleaner was that the final film is much cleaner and near pixel perfect.

How did u get the 35mm film onto computer? This scanning process is real expensive no?

Take care

05 May 2002, 05:07 PM
Sorry I meant clearer not cleaner!

05 May 2002, 06:42 AM
Nice Job ArneK

You give me alot of inspiration with your color corrections in After Effects. Do you happen to know if the camera was Crystal- Sync (assume yes since its 35mm cam from the 60's)? BTW, old cameras are still GREAT cameras, good lighting and modern film stock takes you a LONG ways. Do you know if they used Kodak Vision stock or not? I shoot in 16mm, but will probably do my color corrections in the transfer. BTW, that girl is hot.

05 May 2002, 05:43 PM
Thanks y'all for giving my post five stars ... :) *overwhelmed*

vfx, I'll see if I can find the time to post a progress set-up later, as I am a little bit busy at the moment.

The footage was scanned at a post production company, but they did a piss-poor job at it... (we paid very little so we couldn't complain either...argh).
The scan was very difficult to use, as any colour adjustments I made in After Effects, made grain pop out like crazy (didn't matter if I worked in 8 or 16 bit). Especially when removing green spill. This made dark blue grains pop out, making the footage look like it was shot on 1600 ASA film... The post company must have done something very strange during the scanning process, as I have never encountered anything like this before. Any post people know what caused this? The grain is very prominent in the first dark clip after the intro + the close up shot, and it was nothing I could do to remove it (nothing that I know of anyway).

Telecaustic, I spoke to our camera guy and he told us we used an old MK II camera from the 1960's, and the optics were a Canon 10mm and TechnoCook 14-42mm. Remember this is not optional, and we only used this due to our veeery low budget (and this equipment was cheap to rent compared to newer stuff). We wanted to use UltraPrime optics but were to expensive to rent. We shot the footage on Kodak 200 ASA filmstock.

Arne :)

05 May 2002, 03:19 AM
Great Job Man !!!!!

Id love to see a step by step tutorial on this, it would be great to show how you integrated all the different programs. I use Lightwave too but never did that much compositing, im curious on how you used matchmover in the commercial.

Keeep up the good work!!:D

05 May 2002, 06:28 AM
sweet! love the camera angles, very well done man =]

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