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04 April 2008, 08:49 PM
sergio lopez orozco is entered in the "Uplift Universe Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/uplift_universe/view_entries.php?challenger=15342)
Latest Update: Final Image: slug's diner
04 April 2008, 11:49 AM
this is a toon shaded render of the space diner that will act as an environment for my illustration, i still haven't draw the characters in the scene yet but i have a pretty idea of the mood i want to create and style im going for.
04 April 2008, 12:02 PM
damit! the updating deleted where i described my idea so here it goes again..
my main idea so far is a space patrol escorting criminal alien but stopped at a space diner, as the sexy human female cop leans back to relax she gets eyed balled by a parade of aliens not knowing that the space diner is being sucked by a black hole. its all supposed to be comical and mainly cartoonish 3d.
that was the idea at the beginning but i just found out that i have like 23 days left.. you see, i thought the deadline was june 9... i have no idea where i got that from, anyways i might only make a maximum of 4 characters and 2 vehicles :) ill post the first character i made today right now.. :blush:
04 April 2008, 12:06 PM
this is the character thats going to be constrained because hes a criminal! and doing very sneaky things in the scene
04 April 2008, 12:44 PM
im not shure if im not supposed to upload from photobucket but since this images are not that important and are relevant to what i uploaded before its ok, i just have a little trouble getting images to the specified 150kb max :argh:
i don't plan to render the final image as a "toon" but i really like how it looks so who knows
04 April 2008, 01:49 PM
Hey Sergio! Cool idea and good start. Can't wait to see the sexy human female cop ...Good luck!
04 April 2008, 04:47 PM
Yeah I think the idea is really cool.
I will keep an eye here to see the rest of characteres but the scenario seems pretty cool already.
I think you will show the black hole from the central window right? In that case will be interesting how to play with the attention of the wiever, playing with the importance of the characters, situation, black hole etc... on the image.
good luck and keep the good work.
04 April 2008, 08:39 PM
Hey Sergio, really cool and fun concept, like a lot your idea on the challenge, great!! The design for the space dinner looks really great and the development for the alien is amazing :D Good luck mate and lloking forward for more updates ! Cheers :beer:
04 April 2008, 06:37 AM
thanks alot guys!
marco i think you are gonna have to wait for that sexy female cop :D i was working on the body last night and maya crashed, i opened the file and the body surface was gone.. i was working with a mirror subdivision proxy :cry: w/e
Ferx: thx fernando :D your wips look pretty cool too
Ares: yes man im really thinking about that, so i bring this image to you guys, which one you think works best? i like both but im inclined to the first image (Look its super slug!) , and not doing the black hole is also nice :D
04 April 2008, 02:15 PM
Very nice concept mate! Your alien is very cool. About the image I vote for the first..is very funny the alien outside. Keep up the good work!
04 April 2008, 12:06 PM
thanks alot decosouza! i got some feedback from some other friends too, they said the black hole looks more menacing but the super slug outside makes the image funnier..so im still not sure, hopefully more people chime in
well this image image is from the WIP space cadet which is the only one who appears to acknowledge the menace's presence whatever that might be
as you can see it still needs alot of work on the body and its missing some equipment, im trying to achieve a very cartoony look
04 April 2008, 07:58 PM
Hey Sergio, the two scenes look really great, but i´m more for num. 1. :) I think it has more dramatic potential to see the threat out the window. The space cadet design is really cool!. Maybe more volume on the hands, now see a bit flat, like empty gloves :)I really liked the poses of the girls, maybe a tired waitress can be a nice addition to your image :D ( only a wish :D). Again, great work my friend !! Cheers :beer: ( Vas muy bien sergio, me late mucho tu idea, y creo quie puedes conseguir una muy buena iluminación dramática para el "comedero espacial" :D... ahora se me ocurrio, y que tal una que otra mosca alien ... :D las podrías añadir al final con photoshop despues de hecho tu render, pa no perder mucho el tiempo :D)
04 April 2008, 02:27 PM
muchas gracias fernando!
and another vote for image #1 :scream: ill take your advice about the flies and waitress because as you know i got rid of the "parade of aliens eyeballing the sexy space cop" because of time and the image does kind of need a little extra than what i sketched, but i have to start doing things really fast now because of time, hopefully not much quality is sacrificed.
I'll do the waitress at the very end if i still have time, must likely she'll be an alien :surprised im already picturing her :lightbulb and about space cadet 1#, yes he does need alot more work in the globes, boots and hellmet but i wont over working him :D
y muchas gracias de nuevo por tu ayuda :beer:
04 April 2008, 02:38 PM
well, this is the female space cadet that will be sitting by the main character (sexy female cop), she still needs some work... :D
this is the first time i do cartoony characters so hopefully shes not too hideous.
04 April 2008, 02:41 PM
just a closeup of the face, i already had the eyeballs and teeth made so they need some modifying
04 April 2008, 04:02 PM
I really love your style of modeling and your cool concept. Looking forward to seeing the final image. Keep up the good work.
04 April 2008, 06:16 PM
Hey Sergio, love the last model, really cool with great appeal ! very nice design. The purple colour for the eyes is a very nice touch!! great :D My only comment is about hands again, needs a bit more volume on it, but is a minor detail :) Great work my friend! Cheers! :beer:
04 April 2008, 08:09 PM
in my opinion this is allso a great concept and a gread scene...i hope you can finish this, only 18 days remaining.
and your way of modeling is gread...
04 April 2008, 12:03 AM
TCPortfolio: thanks alot Trey i really appreciate it cuz its the first time i do this style :D.
gracias fernando!, i just beefed up the hands abit hopefully they look better now,
they still need some work but i'd rather move on ( las areglare mas cuando pose la mona :D)
DonRallo: there's no way in hell im not finishing this image Ralph :cool: even if a don't sleep for the last five days im going to submit final (unless i die in the process), now notice im not saying i'll submit a super image :D but i will definitely do my best
04 April 2008, 12:13 AM
worked on the female cadet a bit more,shes UVmaped and ready to texture and bind, in my opinion i could do more but i think i need to move on to the main character
04 April 2008, 12:15 AM
heres another closeup of the face
04 April 2008, 03:43 AM
hi guys, i modified the space cadet a bit more, please tell me if you like it better than the first version, i gotta make the best of each character because i don't think im going to have time to model more than the three i've done so far because of time :( i blame my laziness and the intersecting dates between dominance war and this comp.. but anyways this character needs to be weight painted and textured and that'll be it
04 April 2008, 03:58 PM
i really like your work ill keep an eye out for your updates. thanks for sharing your progress.
04 April 2008, 02:51 AM
She looks great so far mate! I just think that would be something under her breast, an additional acessory. Just one opnion, anyway you're in an wonderful way. Keep up!
04 April 2008, 06:19 AM
The female space cadet's pose looks great.I love the whole concept.
04 April 2008, 05:30 PM
Slav, brad, andré, thanks guys i really appreciate your input :D it really means a lot to me
andré: yes man she is a little incomplete but i have to move on :(
im doing paint overs on some renders right now to figure out the colors but i think its gonna be a very simple color pallete
04 April 2008, 06:40 PM
Hello sergio! I hadn't seen your work till now. You've got some nice modeling happening in here. I would add more junk to the space girls trunk, just a little though...I think it looks too much like her front side atm so it needs to be defined as a bum :). Looks like an interesting scene that you've got planed aswell. I'll await your lighting and color passes!
04 April 2008, 05:11 PM
thanks ryan, i will give her more rump just for you :D
rigth now im working on the textures so a color pass its coming :wip: also i hope you like the hair i made.
04 April 2008, 08:12 AM
hi again guys, time to update :P
heres just some testing of shaders and lighting for the environment, theres still a lot to add.
i changed the desing, now the diner will be called Slug's diner and the slug character will be a waiter, from the window you will see the thrusters that keep the diner in place and a oldtimee neon diner sing, i also modified the slug character, ill post tomorrow some shader and texture test for the female space cadet.
04 April 2008, 04:08 PM
Love the characters. Everything looks very good - only you should work on the overall lighting. Maybe an interior radiosity setup or a simulated one. Keep up the great work! :thumbsup:
04 April 2008, 07:06 PM
When I get home to my wife tonight, I'm going to ask her and my three kids, "Hey, yall wanna go to Slug's Diner tonight!?!" And the kids are going to go, "Yaaaay!" Haha, this is turning out really awesome. I love it very much; can't wait for the final. By the way, I'm going to take your advice and render out one image instead of compositing all of the seperate renders together. Thanks again.
04 April 2008, 07:10 PM
Hey Sergio! Great updated characters. I like them!
04 April 2008, 10:32 PM
Hey Sergio, really great updates my friend! Like a lot the space suit for the cadet girl, really cool, and nice pose. The lighthing test looks nice, I love the blue neon outdoor lights, hahahah great touch!! Maybe you need to "dirt and scratch" a bit the floor texture -again you can do that after your final render with photoshop to no take much time .... I hope :D - ahhh and about your renders, always is a good idea to make a overexposed and underexposed renders to control ligth, if be needed, on photoshop. Again, great work Sergio! ( Va muy bien, ta quedando de poca! :D) Cheers!! :beer:
04 April 2008, 07:24 AM
thanks guys, its really more than i deserve :D
kerem: the lighting is composed of pont lights which are placed inside the lamp bulbs and a lot of directional lights for fill light, because its cheaper rendering than global illumination or other alternatives but still just a test, i might test some other lighting rigs but these one seems to be working, in this render the shadows look a little weird cause the shadows are to hard and my fill lights might be a little off, they are also not casting any shadows.
also i don't know what a interior radiosity setup is :D maybe i do but call it different, i use maya 8.5.
thanks a lot for your input man, i will improve the lighting
trey: lol! i don't think you'll want to come to this diner when you see whats going on in the image :D. good luck on your renderings trey :buttrock:
marco: glad you like them marco, ill post more testings of the female space cadet right now. btw im wating for some updates from you man :wip:
fernando: thanks a lot fernando for the tip about modifying the exposure of the renders, we'll see how it goes, about the dirts and scraches, i will try to do what i can with texturing but because time is shrinking i might just do a lot in photoshop after words as you suggested.
de nuevo muchas gracias fer, ya mero se acava y me esta sudando! :eek:
04 April 2008, 07:30 AM
this is just a test with textures of base colors, i will work on the textures a bit more ones i further the other characters more, also as you can see theres hair involved
04 April 2008, 07:36 AM
this shows the hair i made for her, its not really final, it needs a little more tweaking of shape and shading but its getting there, please tell me what you think, also testing shaders with base colored textures, you can see that i have sss shading in the face but again i have not tweaked it to much because this scene has different lighting rig and dimensions than my diner scene, it will have to be fine tuned with the final environment and lighting. any suggestions welcome :D
04 April 2008, 08:06 AM
WOAH! fantastic! your style is amazing! i like it a lot! is perfect for a cgi short....have you considered the idea of doing an animation with this splendid stuff?
04 April 2008, 06:49 PM
wow oz :D thats the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me and probably will :cry:, but seriously i hadn't thought of that, maybe if i knew people :) but thats why we're all here isn't it? :beer:
thanks again oz!, i never knew i had a style :cool:
05 May 2008, 03:46 AM
i worked a little bit on the slug :D its uvmaped, ready for texturing and rigging, the character actually has 4 infinite chain arms :D
05 May 2008, 06:17 AM
Great work, mate! Can't wait to see more :)
Keep it up!
05 May 2008, 10:41 AM
thanks Dimitrij :D!
This is another shading test, i feel this looks more like my original intent (red hair) the first one looked kind of blond.. also fixed the eyebrows a bit more, im not sure if the specular is too low but we'll see on the final light rig :D
WHAT!?...YOU GOT A REALLY COOL STYLE!!! and...the new hair version is better!! cool stuff!
U got to do animation!! A - NI - MA -tion! A- NI -ma -TION!
05 May 2008, 04:56 AM
thanks oz :D but animating isn't my thing, thats why a need a team ;)
this is just another closeup of the fase, now added the lower eyelashes, they are very faint but definitely there, i might enlarge them, and FINALLY! (she looks better with her mouth closed doesn't she? :D) shes completely body and facially rigged, not like the last time which was very raw compared to this one, now im going to import all the characters into the environment and start posing them, then i will work like hell on the textures and more detail for the scene T_T so much to do! :)
05 May 2008, 06:26 AM
Hey Sergio, like a lot the change to a more redish hair, looks really cool! :D and makes a nice combination with the purple eyes :) Maybe the eyebrows a bit more darker than hair, only a comment :) The Chef Slugs looks awesome, great work! Cheers my friend! :beer: ( va a toda M tu imagen :D muy chido el diseño de la cadete ! :D)
05 May 2008, 11:10 AM
gracias fer! :D haora vee mis desgracias :)
well, i thought to post this before i go to sleep :) this was my last test for the day and it went terribly wrong! the hair didn't show and some things didn't reflect.. but don't worry ill fix it :D
you can see i posed the body a bit and did some facial expression.
05 May 2008, 08:22 PM
A nice radiosity light can work great with this scene. Keep up the good work mate :thumbsup:
05 May 2008, 08:33 PM
Hi Sergio! Is coming out a great image. Good job. I think this is a hard scene for the lighting but I'm sure you'll do a great job!
05 May 2008, 12:29 PM
thx kerem, i wish i could do that but my machine would just blow up, i've all ready tested it :( .
hey marco glad to see you here, it is becoming a real challenge to do a good soft lighting with out a radiosity (global illumination) as kerem suggested, hopefully my lighting pulls through.
becase i don't think i have any time left for test renders i just bring you a view port screenshot out of maya, in here you can see ive begun to pose the slug character, no texture in the scene is final as you might imagine but in case i dont finish the way i want those base color should be fine :D.
and theres another dead stroke for my image, i just notice that wen i render in mental ray a surface with an SSS shader and the scene has point lights i get en incredible amount of errors, the image takes for ever to render and my hair doesn't show up, its kind of hard to give up the sss but i can fake it in photoshop after words :)
05 May 2008, 11:12 AM
hey guys, i just thought to post this lighting test because it took so damn long (two hours) im working on my celeron D so it was fast for what it is.. i will switch to my laptop for final rendering (centrino duo 2gb ram), still haven't posed the models well yet, ill do that next...
*** also i will test other lighting solutions ***
05 May 2008, 06:20 PM
Wow, your image is coming to life! It's going to be great when it is finished. Keep up the good work Sergio, and thanks for all your help on my image too.
05 May 2008, 08:00 AM
thanks trey! i was feeling a little down but now its gone :scream: i refined the lighting and im working on the poses now:wip:
05 May 2008, 05:12 PM
this is just a screenshot of the scene, still missing a lot of environment things
05 May 2008, 05:13 PM
just test renders
05 May 2008, 05:15 PM
just messing around with facial expressions, i like this one so i think ill keep it :D
05 May 2008, 06:14 PM
Sergio! The expression is looking wonderful! She looks very mischievous. I agree with an earlier comment about getting some GI or radiosity going on in this scene. Your characters would fit that type of render really well i think. Great job man, keep it up.
05 May 2008, 08:22 PM
Hey Sergio, really looking great my friend. The chef looks awesome... really nice character :thumbsup: . The expression for the cadet girl, is totally cool! The props ( gun and space food ) are really nice, like a lot. About radiosity issue, for sure your scene can gain a great lighting, but in the other hand is the render time :( A tip, you can lower the values for radiosity, use only backdrop radiosity and a low value for calculation rays. Use a HDRI image for light probe, but first make a gaussian blur over the HDRI image ( very blur) Dont use a very large HDRI image, try about 800 to 1024 px. Or you can make a gradient image, with the color values of yor image and use it for a light probe ( over exposed a bit the gradient and blur it). Again, really cool work my friend! Cheers!! :beer:
05 May 2008, 09:20 PM
thx kerem, i wish i could do that but my machine would just blow up, i've all ready tested it :( .
Sorry to hear - of course GI is not only way to make a good lighting. Perhaps you already saw Jeremy Engleman's lighting walkthrough to explain very realistic lighting with only 13 lights and without using GI/FG. Check out here - http://gnomonology.com/tutorial/82
good luck mate :thumbsup:
05 May 2008, 02:00 PM
Sergio! It's looking great. I love the space pouch and I agree with everyone about the expression on her face. She is looking like she's really up to something that can't be good, haha. Characters are great, and the environment is well done too. I think this is going to be one of my favorites of the whole competition. I am hopefully going to finish up today and post my final image. I've got a new baby coming tomorrow, haha! Good luck with your project man.
05 May 2008, 11:25 AM
fetus23: thx ryan, hehe because something i did in maya the facial expression got all screwed up, im glad you all liked, i think ill be making some other expression im not sure what it will be
ferx: gracias fernando, but im not using an hdri image :D maybe i could to get some kind of realistic light source for a sun of a space image full of stars but no time :hmm:
kerem: thats man! i have that tutorial but was buried under a pile of dvds, i saw it and freshened my memory and figured out why i wasn't getting soft shadows, the scene scale i was working on was humongous... thats way my final gather, global illumination or ray tracing became unstable when i bumped up the values to get the result needed, now ill have another look at final gather (radiosity):buttrock:
TCPortfolio: thank you trey for your encouragement and that you like my image :D ill try to make the best of it in the little time we have left, i wish you luck trey:thumbsup:, we can do it!!:bounce:
05 May 2008, 11:30 AM
heres a test render i did after adjusting the scale of my scene and redoing the lighting to a faked GI setup, still need to adjust many things.. hopefully i finish by saturday
05 May 2008, 07:54 PM
Hey Sergio, looking great! The outdoor background looks cool, like the galaxy on it and the frames for the space windows are awesome! :thumbsup:. Perhaps more bright on it, only a comment :) When you make your render, make on separate layers to work on light details on photoshop, you can adjust on it your global light for the scene :) Again, really awesome work my friend!! Cheers!! :beer:
05 May 2008, 09:06 PM
thanks alot fer! i am rendering the image in seperate pases, almost done! the last image is rendering now since 10 pm of yesterday (beauty pass) :D actually the only pass missing is the hair which i will set up for rendering now, but that one wont take very long.
05 May 2008, 05:14 PM
working on the background
05 May 2008, 04:43 AM
as the unsuspecting space cadets stop for a fast lunch the evil Dr. slug disguised as a chef is planing terrible mischief. :D
05 May 2008, 05:04 AM
Sergio, I love the final image! I submited my final just about an hour ago; I'm not really pleased with it; could have done better if I wasn't so busy this last week (my wife had another baby). Anyway, I love the colors and characters and the render is awesome! It's a great story that this image tells. Congrats on the final image and good luck in the competition. Well done; thanks for all your advice for me too.
05 May 2008, 05:51 AM
Hey Sergio, great image my friend!!! Love that scene!! Like a lot the atmosphere of the diner place. The character designs are really great, like a lot the style. Love the hot cadet girl :D The chain arms for Dr. Slug are cool touch!! A great pleasure to see all the work that you made for this awesome image!! Congratulations my friend for this great finale!! And now is time for a lot of cold beers ( unas chelas bien muertas :D) and a lot of tequila shots !! Cheers my friend!! :beer:
( Muy bien Sergio, me gusta muchisimo la imagen, tienes un gran estilo para el diseño de personajes, la cadete es un excelente diseño y esta para hacer una animación con ella igual que con el doctor slug :D. Excelente trabajo, te felicito!! y ahora por unas chelas, no? salú!! :D)
05 May 2008, 07:12 AM
Congrats on finishing Sergio, you cut it close! You've put together a great image here with alot of nice details. Keep going with your work! I think you could push this image even further with some more specular variation and materials, but now its time to rest right?! :D. grats again mate.
05 May 2008, 07:22 AM
Congrats! Fantastic Piece. That's a helluva render, your lighting is exceptional. Best of luck.
05 May 2008, 08:11 AM
hey Sergio! Congratulations for finishing this great piece! Funny characters and cool environment. Good luck my friend! See you in the next comp!
05 May 2008, 05:07 PM
I'm very happy that so many challengers finished their work....and your image is pretty nice an funny.
Maybe we sit in the bar like your image in future...nobody knows
(worst english ever ;))
05 May 2008, 02:07 AM
this turned out really well. I am pretty sure this is where my characters were headed on
their ill fated date!
05 May 2008, 12:48 AM
trey: whoa man! first of all, congratulations on your new baby man! thats probably the best art people can do :D.
and thanks, im glad you liked my image.
fernando: haha gracias fer, me avisas para cuando nos vamos por unas chelas, pero tu disparas hahaha.
ryan: thanks i did cut it close! i submited a horrible image resolution like 3 hours before the deadline but left a image rendering, i fell a sleep, woke up and my rendering was done but there was like 3 minutes till deadline so i just slaped the new image into my photoshop file and uploaded it :\ not to pleased with what i uploaded but thats how it goes :(.
brad: thanxx brad i tryed my best :).
marco: thanks alot marco, ill see you around .
ralph: yeah im glad a lot of people finished, even if you think they're not but under presure people tend to pull off crazy things :D (don't worry about your english man :) ) and yes, any time we all can go to a bar :D air fair is costly tho.
kory: they probably we're going to get the slug's house special licorice ice malt :D its renowned throughout the galaxy.
heres a higher resolution of my image but not as high as the judges will have to endure... this one its not exactly the one i submited, i worked on this one a little more but thats as final as i will leave it.
HIRESS IMAGE (http://www.freewebs.com/octostatue/final%20images/spacediner.jpg)
thanks a lot to everybody that supported me all the friends here at the cgs and to the cgsociety for uplifting us to this great competition and lets not forget for whom this competition was spawned.
05 May 2008, 03:35 AM
Hey Sergio , I have not noticed the hot sauce label on the bottle !! hahahahahaha cool touch!! thanks for the high res image (downloaded to my collection for sure :D)
05 May 2008, 02:34 AM
whoa! fernando, thanks for reminding me that i need to credit the charro image on the label
Charro. Oil on canvas. Collection: Museo de la Charrería, Federación Mexicana de Charrería.
Charro. Óleo sobre tela. Col. Museo de la Charrería, Federación Mexicana de Charrería.
05 May 2008, 02:34 AM
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