Lost Adventurer, Aleks Kirilenko (3D)
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05-08-2003, 03:09 PM

a few days ago ive noticed this alienz forum, and you folks are doing some stunning stuff here :).

so one thought popped up in my mind....damn it would be soooo great to participate and learn a lot as it goes on.

i decided to try to model the hero, and i hope i donot step on someones feet doing this... if thats the case please tell me :)

here 2 pics, tell me what you think about him...

http://members.chello.at/sone_one/hero-head 001.jpg

http://members.chello.at/sone_one/hero-head 002.jpg

05-08-2003, 03:42 PM
I think someone else is doing this?

05-08-2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by unLevel
I think someone else is doing this?

2 people are allready doing this....and as i said....if i stepped on someones feet by trying, i wont go further :P

05-08-2003, 03:54 PM
well, you'll have to talk to Kirt bout it, but good luck!

05-08-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by unLevel
but good luck!

well if someone doesnt want me to participate thats ok cause i entered that late. just tell me to stop.

it ll be a great learning experience anyway :)

05-08-2003, 04:29 PM
Looking really good! :thumbsup:
Keep going with it and don't worry about stepping on anyone's toes. I think I have already addressed this discussion in the frequently asked questions (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56302).

We're all in this to learn ... including myself. :D

Welcome to the project.

05-08-2003, 04:37 PM
glad to hear that kirt :). im very excited ^^

i have a big trouble modelling the eyes so they're lookin right....could you draw orthographic views showing the actuall size of the eyeball? that would really be great and help alot :)

here two pics with sub-d

http://members.chello.at/sone_one/hero-head 003.jpg

http://members.chello.at/sone_one/hero-head 004.jpg

05-08-2003, 05:07 PM
just a modeling hint always have your eyes be spheres and model the eye around that. makes it a bit easier.

05-08-2003, 06:53 PM
i think its my lack of 3d modelling skill and experience.....but i cant get spheres to match whats shown in those sketches....those eyes cant be spheres!

im coming from a 2d background and i aint modelling for long....could some one explain a solution please?

ila? ;)

05-11-2003, 04:37 PM
little update here too... hope you like it :)





05-12-2003, 01:19 PM
'nother update ;)

im glad i got some time yesterday to start the body...



05-13-2003, 04:30 AM
NIce start Sone, clean topology on the head. Keep it up dood

05-13-2003, 12:02 PM
thank you madeuce =)

are there areas that will cause problems when it comes to rigging? (i got no experience with that :().

05-13-2003, 11:08 PM
:) Hi :wavey: I'm @ ur servise.
your head topology seems good enough for facial expressions, & I think the 'non-spherical eye problem' could be solved easily, but I can't tell exactly HOW till i check the geometry by myself in a close shot.
you may send me the heads' polymesh, if you can't find a solution.

from this pov everything looks good, but when the whole mesh comes near to it's end then I can say where it needs more detail or has too details, now you only need to follow the concept.
good luck

05-14-2003, 12:01 AM
hi ila :wavey:

your head topology seems good enough for facial expressions

ive been in desperate need for that statement! :thumbsup: ^^

now the eyeballs are spheres....the are not 100% what has been drawn by kirt, but i think theyre ok now. (shown in the update pics, posted on 11.5.)

yesterday and today i focused on researching any knownledge about rigging available :surprised . i try to gain a deeper understanding of the conditions the mesh has to meet when it comes to animating it.

if you like i can send you the file tomorrow...for inspection :surprised

on that rigging topic i got a few questions...

subd mesh should be one piece when bound to a skeleton?

how do i do morphtargets for facial expressions then?



05-21-2003, 05:22 AM
hi all,

ive been messing around with the hands for a lot of time, but finally i think i made them look right.

ive also done some extensive cleaning up and tweaking on the body, after studying ilas model, what helped alot ;).

hope you like him so far....



and those damn hands o_0



05-22-2003, 07:58 AM
not even a single comment? :annoyed:

05-22-2003, 11:45 AM
HI :) ... don't worry ... I saw no reason to post coz everything looks ok & nothing wrong with the hands now.
you should put some cloths on him! (& make the feet, of course)
thank you again

05-22-2003, 07:11 PM
thanks ila....glad you like it :)

05-28-2003, 04:17 AM
HERO is looking good, like the hands. Are we gonna see him clothed?? HEHE

06-07-2003, 09:43 PM
ive been quite busy the last weeks so sorry for the long time without any update.

here's what ive got yet....



c&c appreciated ;) (especially from ila and kirt :D)

06-07-2003, 11:00 PM
:) Hi ... nice work sone
legs seem a little tick, must be fater & arms still are a little short, & may a bigger image of ortho pic helps more.

06-12-2003, 08:10 PM
OK ... I really can't think of much to add here that Ila hasn't already mentioned. I'd like to see the model more refined ... however -

I like the way the feet are shaping up. Maybe they're a bit flat from the front view and the outside part of the foot shouldn't indent like that. From heel to beginning of the toes the foot follows a pretty straight line. It only arches inwards on the inside edge.

I think his arms and upper chest needs more bulk to it. This is making his head seem very large and unproportionate to his body.

Keep going with it and feel free to use your own judgement on how he should look. :wip:

06-26-2003, 09:46 PM
hi, I'm new thi s place.. Just wanted to say, keep it up the good work!

08-22-2003, 05:55 PM
good job in the head above all. i like his design.
only a pair of things to criticize: the feet are so plane and wide and i guess hes a bit heady, isnt it? :D
congrats :beer:

the Muffin Man
05-28-2004, 06:43 AM
hey, i have to say great job with the hands :D Those can be pretty damn tricky and you did a great job even making the hands match the character, sorta thick and calloused looking..

Nice work! wings?

07-08-2004, 11:54 PM
thanks guys ... im pretty surprised that some one still replied to this after abut 1 year. thank you.

@ kirt and ila... im very sorry i havent done anything further... i went through some very difficult personal stages.

i learned a lot in these times.

is there a final of the hero yet? is there anything needed? again i am sorry, but now i feel ready to complete the things i start.


07-30-2004, 09:44 PM
Just a tip (Although I've never really 3d modeled...) the armspan, including the back, is about as long as he is tall. Otherwise, good job!

07-30-2004, 11:27 PM
Just a tip (Although I've never really 3d modeled...) the armspan, including the back, is about as long as he is tall. Otherwise, good job!
thanks, but what do you mean by otherwise? hes as tall as his armspan is long ;)

07-31-2004, 12:12 AM
Your doing a damn good job for never really modelling before ;) I might throw my 2 cents in.
I would thicken up his legs a good amount, give him abs (maybe too soon for that detail) make his lats a little bigger, chest bigger, and I would beefe up the arms a bit. Thing is hes porportions to me look great in low poly, but when u SUBD it it does that "shrinking" effect on the mesh. So if I were u my goal would be to aim for the porportions you have in low poly, by making those bigger, so when you smooth they shrink to the orrigional sizing. Of course, only follow this advice AFTER Ila's and Kirt's.

08-19-2004, 04:30 PM
very nice work :D

keep it up! :D Now I'm inspired to make something like that :D Never tried

08-20-2004, 07:27 PM
I've been monitoring this forum for the past couple of months now, but didn't realise that its been a year since the last post.

Is Alienz still an active project if so I'm really looking forward to seeing the finished production.

The model you've got there is very nice indeed, the head does look a little big for the body in my opinion, other than that you've done a brilliant job on it!


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