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Airflow
05 May 2007, 07:55 PM
Ok, so my will power was weak...
I still feel that I wont have the time to finish this due to work, but what the heck.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_02.jpg

Boone
05 May 2007, 08:50 PM
Hmmm...I sense a presense I've not felt since...

<Boone runs off to Simjoy>

Boone: "He IS here!"

Simjoy: "Airflow? Surely he must be dead by now? Put all sections on alert!"

Boone: "I must face him...ALONE."


Seriously, its great to see you here.:thumbsup:

Airflow
05 May 2007, 09:39 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_03.jpg
Small update

simjoy
05 May 2007, 09:57 PM
Who new that when Jango created so many clones they would all turn up on CGS in the same week ??

'tis a veritable Fett fest here just now :D


nice start mate. Hope you have time to finish it to your usual standard ...

Airflow
06 June 2007, 11:23 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_04.jpg

need to tweak some stuff a bit, but thats the boots blocked out. Onto the Shin armouur and Knees.

Boone
06 June 2007, 11:33 AM
Damn, thats some nice foot wear!

Airflow
06 June 2007, 04:50 PM
Last post till next week
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_05.jpg

simjoy
06 June 2007, 07:06 PM
What do you mean your having time off ?? you've only just started ......:twisted:

Looks good so far, although he does appear to be sinking ....

John-S
06 June 2007, 09:07 AM
:bounce:

I can't wait to see this finished off : )

Easy on the pants. Wouldn't want them too bumpy...

Airflow
06 June 2007, 02:40 AM
Im deciding on resculpting the pants, Id like them to be animatible as in cloth sim, but Ill just get the pose and sculpt in the creases.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 12:39 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_06.jpg
Taking the lower jumpsuit into zbrush to do some sculpting on it.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 06:07 AM
Lower body zbrush
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/legs.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/legs2.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/legs3.jpg

Boone
06 June 2007, 01:59 PM
Wow, thats a nice pair of pants.:applause:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 10:01 PM
Thanks, unfortunatly exporting the disp was far too time consuming, so Ill re-do the sculpting in mudbox and extract a displacment to use.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_07.jpg

Airflow
06 June 2007, 05:56 AM
Took it into mudbox, my problems havent dissapered tho, Im getting weird banding on my disp maps when I export, so this will have to do for now, its a normal and bump map.
Now onto the rest of the gear, knee pads and thighpads next.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_08.jpg

Boone
06 June 2007, 06:41 AM
I like the Jango-dancing box thing you got going here, but maybe...maybe Jango's clothes arent baggy enough? Hmmm, nah I reckon it will balance out with the armour on.

Keep going as I'm sure this will be another strong contender for the top spot.:thumbsup:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 07:17 AM
Thanks very much.
Well its currently a normal map, not a displacement, so its less baggy than it should be, and the other consideration is having him on Kamino, in the rain, so right now its in limbo.

jojo1975
06 June 2007, 07:25 AM
it's looking good since now !! continue this way !

Airflow
06 June 2007, 10:12 AM
THx.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_09.jpg

simjoy
06 June 2007, 11:27 AM
looks good ..

I like the Kamino rain idea, it would suit the character more than the '80's Disco thing you've got going on ..:D

Airflow
06 June 2007, 12:38 PM
Kamino it is....

Boone
06 June 2007, 02:00 PM
Re: Airflow

Have you thought about teaming up with the person doing the Slave 1 / Kamino scene? Being as you're tight for time, and they can use a Jango...:thumbsup:

RedRepublik
06 June 2007, 02:10 PM
nice pants wrinkles. this is lookin really good. i'm just curious why most of the "fett" entries are building theirs from the boots up? anyway, good luck. i will fallow this one closely

red

Boone
06 June 2007, 02:19 PM
Re: RedRepublic.

I asked exactly the same thing!:scream:

Must be something to do with those fancy boots the Fett boys wear...or maybe a warm up for the more difficult parts that lie ahead?:shrug:

WyattHarris
06 June 2007, 06:14 PM
looks good ..

I like the Kamino rain idea, it would suit the character more than the '80's Disco thing you've got going on ..:D

80's disco or Corescant night life. But yeah, Fett looked better on Kamino.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 07:35 PM
Any one got some decent highres shots of Kamino? Would be cool to have him standing on a platform looking into the rain, or lightning...

simjoy
06 June 2007, 08:32 PM
I posted some links over at 3DU for you mate if they are any good for you ..

Airflow
06 June 2007, 08:40 PM
Thanks evah soh much sah!

GreenArrow
06 June 2007, 10:30 PM
thats a really great way to work. Quite modular! Looking good man!

Airflow
06 June 2007, 08:36 AM
When I build characters I either start from the hand, the foot, or the chest. I very rarely start with the head unless its a bust. Its just how I prefer to model, I think someone else was building a fett when I entered, but I hadnt seen it till after my boot was posted, its prolly the same for him, starting off on somthing not as detailed as a face is a better way to plan out an organic.

simjoy
06 June 2007, 11:29 AM
It doesnt really matter what end you start at.

well it makes no difference to my character modelling anyway, they still turn out wrong ..:shrug:


I'm looking forward to seeing your environment mate. Should be pretty cool .

Airflow
06 June 2007, 07:26 AM
Yeah, Im not sure how far out we can extend our diorama's, but Im gonna have him on a podium, overlooking a stormy sea, meebe Ill put obiwans vehicle off in the distance, like its heading in to land on Kamino for the first time... :)

PKT
06 June 2007, 09:52 AM
Ah, I love thouse futuristic commersial posteres. Looking great so far.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 01:44 AM
Ok, I just finished some freelance work, so Ill be back on the ole bucket head as of tomorrow...

Whyst
06 June 2007, 04:56 AM
yay that means updates soon! =) fett's looking really good so far :thumbsup: lookin forward to seeing the rest of him and your scene setup

simjoy
06 June 2007, 08:24 AM
Ok, I just finished some freelance work, so Ill be back on the ole bucket head as of tomorrow...Yeah, and after this Fridays excesses your head will be in a bucket all weekend ...:beer:

DorisDay
06 June 2007, 07:07 PM
3DU in the house...

Great Work Airflow, but you should have done bobba...:bounce:

John-S
06 June 2007, 08:21 PM
Looking good Airflow. Lets see that environment! You always have something good up your sleeve in that department:cool:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 08:53 PM
Ok last post before I head him back off to Kamino...
On thing I noted was that I got his neepads the wrong way round...

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_11.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_12.jpg


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_10.jpg

John-S
06 June 2007, 10:09 PM
Normal mapped? Nice Job!

The pantlegg going through the shin-guards is kind of curious...

Airflow
06 June 2007, 10:44 PM
Its like that on the real thing.....

Airflow
06 June 2007, 03:07 AM
I started the diaorama..
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_13.jpg

gregorioSB
06 June 2007, 03:22 AM
Slick looking renders. From what I see so far, kamino will be a big improvement over the disco stu platform. Those legs are pretty well modeled, too.

I completely agree about starting modeling from some part of the body other than the head, but that's a lot of detail considering he's got no upper half! Judging by the quality so far, though, you seem to know what you're doing.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 04:21 AM
Thanks mate, I got him a shuttle down to Kamino.
Should begin building him up again now


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_14.jpg


Holsters and groin guard next...

John-S
06 June 2007, 06:13 AM
Theres the landscapes I know:bounce:

: )

Boone
06 June 2007, 08:17 AM
Mr A, that is looking fantastic. I now believe that starting with the feet is good idea, as you can place the model in the scene much earlier. I see the light so to speak...

But definitely finish Jango as this is another very strong contender for the top spot.:thumbsup:

lightcache
06 June 2007, 02:45 PM
nicely more updates! :)

Airflow
06 June 2007, 07:31 PM
small update
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_16.jpg


ps why is it every time I enter a competiton there is either a rush job needs doint, a gf with a crisis or a pc problem..
Id like for once to have an easy time just working on an entry with no distractions... :)

eldee
06 June 2007, 07:53 PM
ps why is it every time I enter a competiton there is either a rush job needs doint, a gf with a crisis or a pc problem..
Id like for once to have an easy time just working on an entry with no distractions... :)
I'm in the same boat. I guess that makes us more hardcore than the rest? We win by default, right? :D

Yav
06 June 2007, 08:30 PM
Looking good, Rob. What are you rendering with...looks to me like Maxwell. As to the unexpected problems with pc's and girlfriends...well, what I do is just quickly reformat and reinstall, and as for the girlfriend...her I just throw into the recycle bin.

Firerbert
06 June 2007, 08:39 PM
ps why is it every time I enter a competiton there is either a rush job needs doint, a gf with a crisis or a pc problem..
Id like for once to have an easy time just working on an entry with no distractions... :)

That is, unfortunately, the nature of the beast. I was forced to leave town on a business trip and wasn't able to enter on the last one because I couldn't finish. This is hardcore, so stay hardcore my friend. It will all pan out.

simjoy
06 June 2007, 08:40 PM
a rush job needs doint,
Sign on ... then you've loads of free time

a gf with a crisis
Turn gay ... then your problems are all behind you

or a pc problem..
Get a Mac ... 'cos they just work .. So John says


The environment looks great mate :thumbsup: Hope you get it done ...

ChewyPixels
06 June 2007, 08:41 PM
ps why is it every time I enter a competiton there is either a rush job needs doint, a gf with a crisis or a pc problem..
Id like for once to have an easy time just working on an entry with no distractions... :)

LOL! I think many of us can relate to this statement. So true...so true!!

Btw, coming together well. Keep it hardcore! :twisted:

Firerbert
06 June 2007, 08:45 PM
Get a Mac ... 'cos they just work .. So John says



Don't even go there.... don't, even, go, there.
Last thing we need is a gay pc/mac war. $@#$ that noise.

John-S
06 June 2007, 10:58 PM
Don't even go there.... don't, even, go, there.
Last thing we need is a gay pc/mac war. $@#$ that noise.
Is cool. Its more of a friendly joke as he knows I am watching from the rafters above:eek:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 07:40 PM
Thus speaketh the macintosh bat man.. (inside jolke mode off)...
Ok, now his holsters and bandolier/ girdle thing...
Updates eta 8 hrs....
Thnx for all responces guys, Il loves ya....

GreenArrow
06 June 2007, 10:37 PM
Your character fits the scene already and its not even finished! Wowza

Airflow
06 June 2007, 01:12 AM
Thanks....
Small update on belt1

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_17.jpg

Airflow
06 June 2007, 03:21 AM
Another small update... baby steps.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_18.jpg

WyattHarris
06 June 2007, 03:52 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_16.jpg


That is one tremendous cod piece, definitely no cheap shots on this guy. :D
Oh wait, no gay PC/Mac stuff.

Great work airflow! Mega details on that new belt design.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 04:20 AM
Lol, Im not sure wether to thank you or not... :)

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_19.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_20.jpg

Boone
06 June 2007, 01:25 PM
I reckon you wont finish this in time and will hand it in with just his legs...

...and still win first place.:D

Airflow
06 June 2007, 03:58 PM
Lol, yeah, its possible.
Im gonna jump ahead and start the guns on monday.
How long we got now? A week?
The gamma on my images is a bit sqewiff... And I still cant get that mudbox extraction...

michaelshippy
06 June 2007, 04:33 PM
Thankfully we've got longer than a week. This is pulled from the main HMC9 announcement thread:

DEADLINE! Monday, July 9th 12:00 PM

Airflow
06 June 2007, 06:20 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_21.jpg

Updates on monday...

GreenArrow
06 June 2007, 07:18 PM
Again this looks the part! Your work flow is really good.

Is it deliberate to model that enviornment and light the scene so early as you model this character? Is this the way you work on personal project or just this one?

I'm just intrigued at how this is coming along!

Keep it up.

GreenArrow
06 June 2007, 07:18 PM
DUPLICATE **

John-S
06 June 2007, 09:07 PM
great progress :cool:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 02:38 AM
Thanks, updates later on today.
Oh and Somtimes I work this way, somtimes the standard, clay mesh.
I prefer to show the character evolving though.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 08:39 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_23.jpg

now the rest of his buckles and belts, the bandolier and the start of his Lazer Guns.

Boone
06 June 2007, 09:52 AM
Good work as always Mr A.:)

Yav
06 June 2007, 02:01 PM
The creases on the trousers are brilliant and so is his stature. He really seems to be standing on something, unlike most cg humans where they just seem to float in the air. I don't know if I'm imagining things, but I'm thinking perhaps the feet could be slightly rotated outwards. Take off your socks, stand up next to your desk and look down...you'll see what I mean :)

Airflow
06 June 2007, 04:23 PM
Your right, the feet need an outward rotation, but once he is finished, Ill use skin to pose him. Sofar I just modeled him in this stance.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 05:20 AM
Finished the lower body, I can get onto the guns and the arms now...

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_24.jpg

RedRepublik
06 June 2007, 02:35 PM
this is looking really good, airflow. i hope you have time to finish it all.

WyattHarris
06 June 2007, 05:15 PM
Lol, not everyones feet turn outward like that. That takes years of walking improperly, like mine. :D

Edit: and the details in the pants beneath the armor really look great. The layers are blending together well.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 07:50 PM
Thanks guys....
Update on the gun..

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_25.jpg


After about 4 hours of max trying to corrup my gun nozzle I managed towrestle it form its confused clutches.... Sofar Ive had about 9 crashes in total on this project, and 7 of them were on the nozzle...

darklopium83
06 June 2007, 07:57 PM
wow your render is beautifull i love it!
the floor is really realistic and the cloth looks good, great great job for sure!

RedRepublik
06 June 2007, 08:23 PM
are you doing your renders with mental ray?

Airflow
06 June 2007, 08:42 PM
No, Im not a huge fan of mental ray after I did a visualisation, and spent about 4-6 hrs online learning how to optimise Mr, did the render which took 2.5 hrs (thats with hiding the glass elements during calculation... good cheat), and then doing the same scene in vray which took 17 minutes with the glass.
Vray is better in my opinion.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 08:48 PM
Lil update
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_26.jpg

GreenArrow
06 June 2007, 09:21 PM
Nice render! 17 mins vs 2.5h well Trail n' Error will be the case when trying to get the best result! Looks good tough!

Airflow
06 June 2007, 12:28 AM
Yeah, that was on a freelance job I completed last week. And I pretty much thought I knew how to optomise Mental Ray before I started it. Dont get me wrong, it is very versatile, it just it takes alot to get it working efficiently...
Anyway, update in a couple of hours.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 01:10 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_27.jpg

Should be finishe on the gun in about 3hrs.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 04:45 AM
I just need to do the nut on the handle base then Im good to go on building the gloves and gauntlets..

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_30.jpg

WyattHarris
06 June 2007, 05:37 AM
Sofar Ive had about 9 crashes in total on this project, and 7 of them were on the nozzle...

I wonder what about that was causing all the problems?
Anyway, guns are looking great, very clean. :thumbsup:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 10:43 AM
I dunno, I think it was a dodgy symmetry modifier...
Means I would have had his hands done by now, instead of half done....
:)
Updates soon.

Boone
06 June 2007, 02:02 PM
I'm sorry Mr A, but I'm not impressed. There's no..."feeling" in those pistols! :wise:

I want you to change them! Maybe, maybe convey them as Sandy and Mikey from Grease. Make them sing to each other!:shrug:


LOL, nah, brillant mate. :thumbsup:

ChewyPixels
06 June 2007, 05:32 PM
I'm constantly impressed by the quality renders I see coming out of Vray. If I ever get around to playing with Max, I'm definitely going the Vray route.

Good stuff. Keep going!

Airflow
06 June 2007, 06:38 PM
The only Grease that will be left is what happes when Jango uses these babies... :P

Thxs for the copmments.
Yeah vray is pretty cool, though Id liked to render out the final in Maxwell. Dunno if I have the time to learn it.

simjoy
06 June 2007, 10:18 PM
maybe convey them as Sandy and Mikey from Grease. i think its sandy and Danny actually ..

Oh god, why do i know that ??? :eek:


Very nice pair of sidearm there Airflow .. a nice pair of arms to go with them would be cool ..

John-S
06 June 2007, 10:30 PM
maybe its all that summer lovin :D

Admit it simjoy. Your a grease fan and thats why your so into modeling cars : )

John-S
06 June 2007, 12:46 AM
when's that next update:bounce:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 01:41 AM
In about 40 mins.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_32.jpg

Airflow
06 June 2007, 02:11 AM
Im kinda hurring up on the gloves, I might paint a disp map in bodypaint or mudbox.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_33.jpg

Underside to come

John-S
06 June 2007, 02:18 AM
fingers shorter and top of hand/palm area longer. Look at where the knuckles are on your hand vs your thumb knuckle...

WyattHarris
06 June 2007, 02:49 AM
The only Grease that will be left is what happes when Jango uses these babies... :P

Nyah, that could be taken so many odd ways, lol.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 02:56 AM
Already done, Im gonna take it into mudbox next.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_34.jpg

Airflow
06 June 2007, 03:45 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_35.jpg
Gotta uv the hand and sleve, then into mb for some wrinkles, first tho, I cant help meself, Im gonna put the gun in his hand... :)

John-S
06 June 2007, 04:01 AM
I really think you should fix the proportions of the fingers/hand. Its really easy and this model has already spared no lack of realism so far...

Otherwise they look :cool:

Ps... yes, looking forward to the gun in hand : )

Airflow
06 June 2007, 04:24 AM
Well it looks ok to me, mebbey I got long fingers, or you got short ones :P
I adjusted them once more and rendered with a mirror... so u could see the underside
Ill post with the gun....

John-S
06 June 2007, 04:42 AM
Well it looks ok to me, mebbey I got long fingers, or you got short ones :P

Thats a strong possibility :D
Ill post with the gun....
:applause:

Boone
06 June 2007, 06:48 AM
Yeah, I hate to jump into the Johnny-boy-S fan club but those fingers...maybe the thumb. Or are they a bit...thin?

No, better idea - I think with cloth-simulated gloves it will ring true...:thumbsup:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 06:59 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_38.jpg

I dunno, I could make them fatter...
I need to sculpt them abit ...

Boone
06 June 2007, 07:17 AM
Hmmm...yeah, it works alright I suppose. just the finger near the trigger that seems a bit odd...

sapienz
06 June 2007, 07:32 AM
You've got a really strange workflow, but i guess its really up to the indivual...
The material for the gun feels too clean. Reminds me of kitchen chrome.

John-S
06 June 2007, 07:47 AM
The material for the gun feels too clean. Reminds me of kitchen chrome.
At first I kinda thought that it looked too clean but then every image I found of the gun was clean.
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7614/picture19br9.png (http://imageshack.us)
This has a rougher texture on the chrome but to be honest I prefer Airflows...

Airflow
06 June 2007, 11:30 AM
Well I actually got some noise in the bump, but its dialled down.
It might end up a bit dirtier and wet for the final.

http://www.plasmainfusion.com/jango%20title%20bar.jpg

Yav
06 June 2007, 05:52 PM
Love that gun, awsome modelling...what are you rendering with?

Boone
06 June 2007, 05:59 PM
I really wish they gave him a Magnum. Perfect for taking out Jedi-Scum.:twisted:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 06:39 PM
Vray, it renders out pretty nice in around 4mins... I was wondering how long the Maxwell renders took?

RedRepublik
06 June 2007, 06:41 PM
that render looks so good, airflow. i wish i had vray :sad:
i can't wait to see the helmet. do the helmet already!

octopus7
06 June 2007, 10:39 PM
That gun alone is a work of art! I don't blame you for using Vray as I have never looked back since I started using it and ditched Mray.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 01:27 AM
Thanks guys.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_39.jpg

Now working on the gloves in mudbox, then Ill be working on the gauntlet weapons..

John-S
06 June 2007, 01:30 AM
Interesting choice of background photos. Time to make the bed... :D

Anyways, Excellent! Lets see them mudbox hands...

Yav
06 June 2007, 09:43 PM
Yeah, Vray is pretty much the fastest render engine out there. I used it alot, before moving onto Maxwell, which is slower, but the results are amazing. One of the best features is that once your render is finished, you can have a slider for each of your lights in the scene and update their intensity in REAL TIME. You can even animate them.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 10:31 PM
Im having displacment problems from the mudbox map extractions, so Im gonna just use the highest level export from mud, like I did with the pants.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_40.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_41.jpg


Ok, onto the gauntlets.
Once Ive finished them and the arms Ill post another scene shot.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 04:25 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_43.jpg
Start....

John-S
06 June 2007, 05:18 AM
:cool:

Slowing down Mr. Flow?

Or did I take up all your time...LOL.

Airflow
06 June 2007, 05:41 AM
Nah, I had a bit of a break from it.... Managed to do some non 3d stuff for a day, Im back on it now....

John-S
06 June 2007, 06:32 AM
Don't let it happen again :wip:

Heaven forbid anybody have lives aside from work and 3D... :D

Airflow
06 June 2007, 08:06 AM
Now where did I put that ball and chain?

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_44.jpg

Jonathan
06 June 2007, 08:35 AM
Whoa man, Sorry I'd almost forgotten about you. Being out of the country can do that. I'm not sure you remember but we met at 101 Cafe in Centerpoint at the first CGtalk meeting in 2004 I think it was. Maybe it was l8 2003. Glad to see you're still at it. I rarely stop in CGtalk but low and behold I saw your name and I was hit with nostalgia.

Hey are ya'll (Heh, I live in Texas now!) still meeting? I'll be taking my vacation in Europe l8tr this year and plan to drop into London for a few days. (I'm in love with the British Museum!)

Airflow
06 June 2007, 08:42 AM
This gauntlet is a very difficult build, when Ive done them both, Im buying myself a bottle of champange....

simjoy
06 June 2007, 10:27 AM
yeah, my wife told me there was life outside of computers as well .... I didn't believe her ..:shrug:
Apparently its called shopping ..:eek:


Only a couple of weeks to go mate, so no more of that time off stuff ...... Your's should be a pretty cool entry ..

Airflow
06 June 2007, 10:47 AM
Hey, Jonathan, Howdy...
Long time, really it is, how you keeping...
Well were not doing the cgtalk meets any more, But Im still in touch with Boone, he was there also...
So what you doing with yourself, still 3d'ing I hope...
Pm me and well swap numbers and that..
I was actually thinking of doing a 3d "Lightning" from Big Trouble In Little China, but then somone talked me into this... lol

Sim, yeah, it will be over soon.. Nearly finished the first gauntlet...

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_46.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_45.jpg

Boone
06 June 2007, 12:28 PM
This is on track to be the best Jango model produced outside ILM.:bounce:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 07:09 PM
Thanks, Boone...
Ill be back on monday, so have a nice weekend all..... :)

Boone
06 June 2007, 07:11 PM
Yeah, have a good one Masta.:)

John-S
06 June 2007, 09:06 AM
Its Monday : )

Airflow
06 June 2007, 02:33 AM
Sorry, had to work on a short freelance job...
Ok Im back on it now....

John-S
06 June 2007, 05:24 AM
:cool:

................

Airflow
06 June 2007, 05:10 AM
Update one gauntlet1
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_47.jpg

iKAL
06 June 2007, 07:07 AM
Looking good as always! Keep it up there. Renders are forearm and armament look nice!

Boone
06 June 2007, 08:44 AM
Very nice work Mr A.:thumbsup:

simjoy
06 June 2007, 01:46 PM
Very good mate .. :thumbsup:

Airflow
06 June 2007, 03:51 PM
Thanks guys... Updates later on tonight....

Logan779
06 June 2007, 12:27 AM
The stock on that gun may be a tad long, otherwise your renders and model is "pixel perfect" imho. Fantastic model ! :)

Airflow
06 June 2007, 11:31 AM
Started on the Left gauntlet, the flame thrower.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/jf_50.jpg

Airflow
06 June 2007, 01:49 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/jf_51.jpg
Updates, monday evening....
Have a good weekend..

simjoy
07 July 2007, 12:14 PM
Updates, Monday evening.... And ... ??
I don't know what kind of calendar you've got, but its Tuesday already ...:)

Only a few days left mate, do you think you'll get it done ??

John-S
07 July 2007, 05:47 AM
Don't let us down Airflow :bounce:

Airflow
07 July 2007, 03:55 PM
Got more freelance work... its a shame, Ill be trying to update as much as possible... But with all this hardware on him its not easy to get through....

ChewyPixels
07 July 2007, 05:43 PM
C'mon man! Someone has to have a finished Jango for the judging. :D

Airflow
07 July 2007, 05:46 PM
Im trying, Im trying, If we dont succeed, I say we shoulc combine our models and enter as a team... lol... So work on the rocket and the arms next .... :)

Boone
07 July 2007, 06:13 PM
Lol...I feel a country western Duet coming on!

"...and united we stand! Divided we fall...and if our backs should ever be against the wall...WE'LL BE TOGETHER!":D

Seriously, with two of you on the case you'll get it done.:thumbsup:

Airflow
07 July 2007, 10:42 PM
Updates....
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/jf_52.jpg

Airflow
07 July 2007, 05:45 PM
It seems as though photobucket is down.... Ill post any updates on my cgportfolio....

Boone
07 July 2007, 06:02 PM
COME ON AIRFLOW! YOU CAN DO IT!:bounce:

Airflow
07 July 2007, 06:03 PM
"Turns on Rock Theme Tune"
http://features-temp.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/49/49_1183656235_large.jpg

Airflow
07 July 2007, 06:24 PM
Scene Update.

http://features-temp.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/49/49_1183659674_large.jpg

Upper body, armour jerkin and jumpsuit next....

John-S
07 July 2007, 08:08 PM
OMG Airflow! You are the freak'in man!

You have got to finish this one. Its at the least a CG Society Award IMO.
:bounce:

Boone
07 July 2007, 08:12 PM
I'm glad to see the Invisible potion is starting to wear off...:D

Airflow
07 July 2007, 09:33 PM
Thanks guys, slowly but surely....

WyattHarris
07 July 2007, 09:51 PM
(Rob Schnieder) You can do it!

octopus7
07 July 2007, 10:06 PM
Looks like you will have to do a couple of all-nighters mate! This looks awesome and you MUST get this done! amazing attention to detail.

Airflow
07 July 2007, 10:55 PM
Im doing one now!!
Thx for the crits.
Quick question... Lazer bolt or flamethower?

John-S
07 July 2007, 11:32 PM
Whichever has the most realistic time scale for you to finish in time :cool:

Airflow
07 July 2007, 11:42 PM
Lazer bolt would take no time, but the flamethrower would look the most cool...
Im still undecided....

darthviper107
07 July 2007, 11:44 PM
That looks really great. But the right knee pad and right hand are flipped the wrong way.

Yav
07 July 2007, 01:18 AM
Getting there...I hope you get to finish it on time. I, for one, am not sleeping for the next three days :(

Airflow
07 July 2007, 01:28 AM
No they arre not, I assure you...
The arms are the same mesh as in the daytime image withthe gun in the foreground, and the kneepads are correct, what your seeing is the inside clamp on the Left kneepad, and not the knee darts, which are on the other side, check preivious renders.
But Thanks anyway...
:)

Yav, thanks man, but I got freelance work, that Im doing all tommorrow and possibly sunday night....

John-S
07 July 2007, 01:34 AM
...but I got freelance work, that Im doing all tommorrow and possibly sunday night....
Where are them priorities?

This is Star Wars :cool:

I'll race you. You finish your image by the time I post my face WIP of Solo :banghead:

Airflow
07 July 2007, 01:46 AM
Lol, Ill prolly beat you..... Just finishing up the modeling on the body before I take it into mudbox for some Retinox Pro Wrinkle Derma Dnaging... cos jango's worth it....
:)


Question still stands, Lazer Bolt or Flamethrower?
Rough updates in about 30 mins...

Airflow
07 July 2007, 03:09 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_56.jpg
More tommorrow night.

darthviper107
07 July 2007, 04:28 AM
The hand looks correct now. Maybe the right nee pad just needs to be rotated a little bit to be more in line with the leg. Looks really great though, I hope you finish in time.

Airflow
07 July 2007, 10:13 AM
To clear things up, the hand in this pic is the same, whats confusing people is the handle of the gun (looks like fingers), I originally positioned the hand above the handle, like he is about to take out his holstered gun. It looks like the hand is backwards, but its not... This is an image of the hand exactly the same but lower check the orientation of the Left gauntlet.. Also check the Kneepads.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_57.jpg

Thanks for your support guys :)

littlebluerobots
07 July 2007, 04:46 PM
Its looking stunning, Im gonna vote for this if you manage to finish it.....

I vote for the flame instead of the lazer bolt, it would look better...

John-S
07 July 2007, 07:02 PM
:cool:

How many days left? Com'on Airflow :bounce:

Only thing that I am curious about, are you going to tone down the reflections a little when you do your final render? The ground reflections (I think) are really strong on the gun etc and it kind of takes a little bit away from the image.

Ps. If people think this projects cool, wait till they see the project you were working on at the 3dunderworld prior to me pulling you away from it.... (Kay Moon was it? The awesome concept sketch...)

Airflow
07 July 2007, 07:10 PM
Thanks guys....
The ground is currently standin... I gotta paint a bump map for the rain splashes and sole ripples... Im still undecided on the fire, Id like to have him kneeling if hes letinng off his burner, and standing for the lazer, so I might do the lazer first and then if I have time rig it to get him into pose for the flamethrower....

Whyst
07 July 2007, 07:30 PM
looking awesome airflow :thumbsup: i really hope you finish...there's still time! flame would be awesome but given the time constraint i'd say laser

Airflow
07 July 2007, 08:09 PM
Heye, Yeah I know, mebbey you can loan Boone's Senate craft and make it chase that towards Courusant... :)

Small update!!
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/jf_58.jpg


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/jf_59.jpg


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/jf_60.jpg

gonna work on the vest and jerkin now, then get back to the helmet and the rocketpack,
Im going for the smaller blue one...

Airflow
07 July 2007, 06:06 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_61.jpg

tewaking of the arms, finishing the armour, and helmet, and building the stubby jetpack.

Yav
07 July 2007, 06:14 AM
I love the tension in the hands...really does bring them to life. Have you got any ideas about lighting yet?

Airflow
07 July 2007, 07:13 AM
Thanks, Im able to go into mudbox and morph the hands, its cool cos I can keep refining it...

tewaking of the arms, finishing the armour, and helmet, and building the stubby jetpack.
Update soon...

Airflow
07 July 2007, 07:37 AM
Vhttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_62.jpg
Im leaving the jetpack till last, as he looses it in the fight with Obi Wan :)

John-S
07 July 2007, 07:53 AM
Wow :eek:
That is sooooo cool!

Don't shoot me for saying this as its probably things you already know... haven't got to... don't care about... or whatever. But, just incase...

The helmet antana
The Center chest piece is missing a center cutout
Needs a longer neck (or is it simpley the angle that is confusing me?)
Helmet may be a tad long (or scaled a little to large)
Armpit area seems not tucked in enough or something... looks a tad fat IOW.

Forgive me for being OVERLY Picky. Your image is FANTASTIC as is. I'm just trying to be of help incase your not seeing a couple things under such a tight deadline : )

I'm comparing it to the ref buckie gave you at 3DUW so maybe its just different ref?

I can't wait to see this 100% finished. Can I have a wallpaper render for my computer :cool:
(seriously)

Airflow
07 July 2007, 08:03 AM
As said preiviously, the helmet extras are being done, on my ref centre peice exists, its not a cutout.
http://www.cswu.cz/characters/img/char/jango_fett_6.jpg

Trust me, I got the square indentation in there.....

I think thats the right size for the helmet, its got no extras so looks weird.
Np, crits are good at this stage, I think the only thing off is the length of the holsters, easily fixed tho.

John-S
07 July 2007, 08:28 AM
I think I missed a couple of your prior posts somehow.... sorry. (the helmet thing)
(been painting a baby room all day while I run back and forth at breaks to check the challenge so its easy to overlook/miss things)

The square in the chest I can't see. Must be the render I guess...

The helmet/neck etc does look different in that ref vs the one I was referning too:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9012/picture65ua7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Looks like the way you have it will be fine then :cool:

You didn't answer me about the wallpaper render :)

Airflow
07 July 2007, 08:43 AM
Yeah, Once Its Finished....NP

Boone
07 July 2007, 08:54 AM
C'MON ROB - YOU CAN DO IT! BURY THE COMPETITION!:bounce:

Airflow
07 July 2007, 10:38 AM
Flamethrower prooving ground :)

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_63.jpg

Airflow
07 July 2007, 11:46 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_65.jpg
I recon with a bit of glow and a slight relax it will be ok fire...

Boone
07 July 2007, 12:04 PM
Mr A: You have not got time to be playing with fire! Get the model finished! You only have the rest of today to do it!:eek:

Airflow
07 July 2007, 12:39 PM
Nope, Im sure Roberto said, when th 9th has left the earth for good, which I take to mean 12pm monday 9th....
Besides, Ive finished the helmet...

Airflow
07 July 2007, 01:25 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/JF_66.jpg

Nearly done... Wow what a relife nearly a months work... almost out of my hair...

John-S
07 July 2007, 05:45 PM
I think the flame is a bit artificial looking ATM.

It seems it needs to have 3 transitions. At the front be really bright white, thinner and perfectly straite/cone shaped. Then get Large orange/red/yellow and less straite, then alot larger where it is dissipating/fading away/fumes/etc. Here are some links of the fetts flamethrowers that I'm refering too:

http://www.bobafettfanclub.com/multimedia/desktop/wallpaper/tk409-flame.jpg

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/a/a1/Flamethrower.jpg/200px-Flamethrower.jpg

(Ps. I bet his hand is pretty warm ATM...LOL)

Keep up the good work Airflow. Your almost finished :thumbsup:

Airflow
07 July 2007, 10:37 PM
Your totally right, but then Im not using volumetrics or particles, mine is a deformed sphere with noise on it and an incidence shader, Ill put in a ramp to try to control the colors...

John-S
07 July 2007, 11:07 PM
Why not use particles or something?

Airflow
07 July 2007, 12:28 PM
Cos Im trying to stick to modeling.... :)

RobinAlexander
07 July 2007, 01:04 PM
i think you should keep it simpel and use lasers, i think that will work way better.

but the model looks awesome

simjoy
07 July 2007, 01:43 PM
Its looking really, really good mate...

You NEED to get this model entered by tonight. Maybe its an idea due to the timeframe to drop the flames, add the jet pack and get a good render done ..

It would be a serious disappiontment if you dont enter this model ...

zenonithus
07 July 2007, 03:42 PM
looking good but something doesn't seem right about the proportions. maybe he needs to be stretched a bit taller?

This would make a cool pose http://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon6.gif

http://www.madetopraisehim.com/media/1/20060805-star-wars-attack-of-the-clones-jango-fett.jpg

Airflow
07 July 2007, 05:01 PM
Dunno, I think the helmet looks fine, I had it taller to start off with but shrank it down a touch...Im doing one last fire render, then getting on to posing him and final tweaks for his lazer shot. From that Ill do the wire and ortho renders.

John-S
07 July 2007, 05:06 PM
I liked this pose and background but it required a jet pack : (

http://www.wizards.com/starwars/images/starwars/Jango_Fett_flying.jpg


If your going to concentrate on the modeling then I would drop the flames and go lazer...

John-S
07 July 2007, 05:12 PM
as far as proportions I think it looks pretty good. I think it would look better if his stomach/chest was stretched verticly some centimeters because his chest looks a tad small but again... it could be the angle (if you were to look at some needed stretch it would be inbetween the top chest panel and the shoulder panel). You'll have to be the judge airflow but its worth double checking.

The square cutout on the chest is still mia?
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9489/picture66oo7.png (http://imageshack.us)

Airflow
07 July 2007, 11:26 PM
Final... Wow, a line out of back to the future sums it all up..
"Why do we have to cut things so damn close!!"

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/airflowzero/jango_final.jpg

Oh, the breast plate is exactly like that... Thats how I built it, its not my fault if you cant see it.. :P

John-S
07 July 2007, 11:31 PM
:bowdown:

Where's my wallpaper :buttrock:

John-S
07 July 2007, 11:32 PM
ps. Love the rain etc...

Airflow
07 July 2007, 12:07 AM
Find me a Starwars Episode3 font (for the pc) and Ill make you a wallpaper....

John-S
07 July 2007, 12:45 AM
: )

Is there a difference between episode 3 and just star wars fonts?

This link has the Title font?

http://www.galaxyfaraway.com/gfa/1998/12/star-wars-fonts/

Firerbert
07 July 2007, 01:54 AM
"Why do we have to cut things so damn close!!"
Because we all gotta have a life man. Keep on truckin'!

Boone
07 July 2007, 09:21 AM
Thats just an incredible job. Its either this or Yav's Grevious.

An Heroic effort.:bounce:

RedRepublik
07 July 2007, 02:09 PM
awesome job, airflow! i have to admit, i didn't think you were going to pull it off when he was just a pair of legs, but you did and it looks great. i love that you modeled the flames, since it was after all a modeling competition, and it gives it a very stylized feel. it's a piece to be proud of for sure.

red

Airflow
07 July 2007, 04:13 PM
Thanks Red. It was very rushed but Im happy its done and would like to thank you and everyone who was kind enough to support me...
Cheers all who entered.... :)

octopus7
07 July 2007, 10:09 PM
Well done Airflow! Jango looks awesome and the modelled flame looks great (and I used to think you could only do flames using particles), I pity whoever is judging this challenge as there is so much kick-arse artwork on show. Wish they'd publish a book with our work like they do with the main CGtalk challeneges!

rustyboi
07 July 2007, 09:22 AM
helmet looks alittle long, you get the prize of best looking pants

Airflow
07 July 2007, 09:31 AM
Hmm, cool I won a Pants Prize... lol
At somepoint Ill get round to fixing him up... right now Im snowed under with work.
You get home and the last thing you want to do is tweak a mesh and set up another 4 hour render. Yeah, I know... I need to get a new machine. :)

WyattHarris
07 July 2007, 02:29 PM
Great work bro, it was a treat following your progress.

TheMansfield
07 July 2007, 06:00 PM
Wow dude you are seriously talented!! would love this as a wallpaper

John-S
07 July 2007, 06:13 PM
it makes a great one :cool:

I'm sure airflow will hook you up if you PM him...

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