View Full Version : nhmchallenge Bence Kresz (kbarts)

04 April 2007, 07:30 AM
Hi, i start this thread. I hope i could finish what i imagined in my mind.

On the weekend i will start working...

04 April 2007, 11:33 AM
Great, can't wait to see what you'll come up with :)

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 11:45 AM
Thanks. but i am lame. I am just try out this technics some time before.

04 April 2007, 07:01 PM
So here is my 'clean' plate. I know, i know it is not a good claer plate. But i affraid i have no time to finish this challenge if i work on the clearing more.

I did not work much on the floor i will replace it with a new.
And i am thinking on what will the next step. I will remove the right things and kill the lamps light.
i want to make a snow or dessert scene. Not a jungle.

04 April 2007, 03:13 PM
First lame sketch:

It will be difficult to create this matte. Hmm. Meybe I will try an easier one.

04 April 2007, 03:20 PM
Really nice concept, be great if you could pull it off :) Love the subsurface view to the right.

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 03:52 PM
now this is what I call an interesting concept! Can't wait to see more.

04 April 2007, 06:21 PM
Nice destruction ! :) really love the mood and the light, i also though about a winter scene, maybe i'll do a concept while this season.

04 April 2007, 06:56 PM
one of my favorites, nice concept and the lighting is awesome, can't wait to see more, keep it up !

04 April 2007, 06:59 PM
Yea thats what I noticed, that lighting is beautiful!


04 April 2007, 07:36 PM
great lighting !

04 April 2007, 08:48 AM
Thanks the feedbacks!
I am not glad with the left background. I need to put there someting better...
I started to find references for the snow. I try to finish this.
But i have another idea...:) i will sketch it.

04 April 2007, 11:48 AM
Wow, I really like that conceptual piece. Having the floor broken away really creates the feeling of a totally new space, really opens up the composition. Plus, it's just a nice illustration :) Good work!

05 May 2007, 11:13 AM
Now back to the stage 2. turn off the lights and expand the left side and the bottom, crop the top.
Next i wil destroy the walls.

05 May 2007, 12:31 PM
i am not sure about this and it is only a feeling
but the perspective towards the right feels a bit weird.
i mean the pillars on the right seem to be headed for a vanishing point at the top a little off.
i might be wrong but it just looks skewed to me. the desaturation is nice.

05 May 2007, 09:43 AM
really nice concept man, it will be a hard job to clean off those stone walls but i'm sure you can get over it easily.waiting for more

05 May 2007, 10:41 AM
Thanks the feedbacks. I am working on the wall desroying.

proconpictures: i did not change anything on the right side.
Jus a bit correction of the lens distortion.

05 May 2007, 04:13 PM
Greate concept, looking forward to this one!!

05 May 2007, 06:00 AM
Goodness! Can't wait to see more. Yes that plate cleaning was very time consuming!


05 May 2007, 06:28 PM
Here is a very wip picture.

I am scared that i can not finish this...:(

05 May 2007, 09:08 PM
nice wip, kb. keep it up.

05 May 2007, 01:56 PM
Another wip. it need more details. Now the snow is painted.

05 May 2007, 07:05 PM
still wip. Hm. The bg mountain and pillar rythm need work. I painted about 50% of the picture and not photorealistic:(

I am thinking on to crop the picture.
I need your opinion and suggestion. Please tell me how could it be better. Thanks.

05 May 2007, 07:09 PM
the snow is starting to work really nice. great !

05 May 2007, 03:54 AM
great image here, I like a lot those long shadows coming from the back sun, I also think you're getting some nice detail on rocks and snow, nice one !

05 May 2007, 10:03 AM
Looking good. I think the building should be a little more silhouetted with the light source behind it.

05 May 2007, 12:49 PM
Thanks. The deadline is coming. I hope i can do my best.

what do you think to crop the image? The black transpareny blocks show what ia wnat to crop.

05 May 2007, 06:17 PM
This is looking really awesome, loved the concept from the start and the more you progress on it the more I like it. I am not experienced matte painter so I really can't give you any advice on the crop, but wanted to tell you how much I like your image so far.

05 May 2007, 09:11 PM
Wow, I love this image so far. I think the crop would work well to give it more of a cinematic feel without losing any impact. Overall, I love the mood and lighting and the way you've broken up the ground. Great idea placing it on a jagged plateau - it gives it a "lost temple" feel, and gives the whole scene a sense of wide-open grandeur.

05 May 2007, 12:49 PM
thanks. I appreciate your comments.
My average time with a picture is 3 hours. I more like creating speed paintings.
But now it is good practise!

05 May 2007, 10:58 AM
Here is a next step. Still not photo realistic. It is not a matte painting, just an illustration.:(

05 May 2007, 12:23 PM
It's looking great man. Considering how much you painted, it's close to reality.
Have a look at distance haze, as the mountains shadows are darker than the churches shadows at the moment. Should be the other way round.

05 May 2007, 10:45 PM
Oh! I love waht you did with the ground!
And the colors are very well chosen - it just looks cold in there! :)

05 May 2007, 11:41 AM
A little update (clouds painting and play with leveles.)
the original dimensions are 3400x2200 px.

Now i do not know what ill be next...:S

05 May 2007, 11:58 AM
kb, man, this looks awesome.shiny,icy ground, sunset, just great...shadows on the mountains could be more darker and you can add a glow where sun shows up.cheers

05 May 2007, 11:59 AM
And here is composition guide lines. The arrows show how move your eyes to the focus point (the sun)

05 May 2007, 03:04 PM
cgoz: maybe yes. but the mountain snow shadow need to be darker or the building snow shadow? i think the mountain shaodow brighter because the athmospheric depth. Hm. i need to think it.

05 May 2007, 04:10 PM
looking greeeaaat! maybe try to add some translucency and sparkle for the snow in the light; the sun rays "eating" more from the structure of the building and also some more bright highlights on the structure.

05 May 2007, 05:37 PM
This is really nice, great atmosphere and composition, just a shame the snow is not completely realistic. Very nice painting though :)

05 May 2007, 06:06 PM
Mr Kbarts I like this image, thank you for putting your composition guides in, i have learnt something. I love the low lying sun reminds me of Stonehenge and the solstice.


05 May 2007, 07:56 PM
Thanks the support! I will update the image tomorrow (i hope).

About the composition: When i croped the image i did not use the rule of the thirdes. It was not scienter. I just made this lines for observe what i did.

05 May 2007, 06:06 AM
One of the strongest concepts so far, I think. I'm not entirely sure that the NHM could last long enough for the ground to erode that far away but it's just visually very interesting. You're probably right about it being closer to an illustration than a Matte Painting, but it's still very awesome. Great job!

05 May 2007, 06:46 AM
Its looking amazing!
I'm not sure i like the crack in the steps. I like the idea but it doesn't look as good as the rest. probably you're still working on it ;)

06 June 2007, 07:03 PM
A little update. I think i can not work on it more. Tomorrow i will post the final iamge.

06 June 2007, 11:05 PM
Looking great my friend!!

A couple of things you might want to look at before final submission:

- The archway on the far right, the light should probably come more through that arch because its making the sun look as though it is much too close at the mo.

- Maybe soften the long shadows from the stair banister as they move towards camera?

I must say, I love that addition of the extra pillar half buried in the snow. Really sells the idea that parts of it have fallen down over time. Some of the other mattes do tend to beg the question 'where have all those broken parts gone?', so ts good to see you have addressed it!

Good luck mate!


06 June 2007, 01:06 AM
Thank you for creating such an amazing image! I've enjoyed watching the progress and I've learned a few things along the way. Best of luck!

Bonnie :)

06 June 2007, 01:17 AM
Great image & concept! Love the snow. Really nice feel to it.


06 June 2007, 07:18 PM
Thanks everyone the feedbacks!

Now it is time to post the final image (i do not say it is a matte painting, it is much less..):

It was a good practise and had a lot of fun.

link for high resolution version ( (you can see the brush strokes, and it is no good on a matte painting):

06 June 2007, 02:48 PM
Hmmmm, I really impressed yr work. Specially lighting & color mixing.

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