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04 April 2007, 01:50 PM
I am in! now lets get rocking the canvas!!

Good luck everyone and have fun :D


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04 April 2007, 03:49 PM
Hey man, you're the first poster! cool :thumbsup: glad you're on board.

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 02:53 AM
Oh I hope I can finish this one . Right now I am in the middle of getting my character concept art together for a possible job. So I dont know how much time i will have to work on this but I am in none the less :D

P.S my necklace that i havent taken off in 3 years just broke while typing this! not a good sign! ahhhhhhhhhh


04 April 2007, 09:57 PM
goode luck, man. i guess we are all in the same boat.
i have to be designing my ass off all day and now i signed up for this :D
who needs sleep anyways. my gf's gonna kick my...
anywayz, hope you get it done and have some fun with it.

04 April 2007, 10:39 PM
Hey mate, don't worry, you have around 6-7 weeks (at that point i usually sh*t myself ;-) key thing is with work that has a deadline, be realistic in what you can achieve in that time and don't over sell your vision (by attempting something that would take longer) :)

Sorry to hear about your necklace, hey maybe it's a good sign, set yourself free, un"chain" imagination ...? ok that was laim :)

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 11:19 AM
yay good luck!!! so did u ever get those dvd's or whot?

04 April 2007, 06:08 AM
Milan: haha yeah I think you should just bring your computer into the bathroom and just tell your girl that your sick for the next while! we will get er done thou! we dont need sleep like you said.

David: yeah being realistic is the plan , nothing over the top. Just making a good composition for myself right now is key.

Ismini: thanks and no dvds yet. Thou they are on their way and should be here within the next week I figure. Damn now that you got me thinking about it thou , I hope I have enough time to watch some of those and get this done! Think its time to ask Alp Altiner how he found more then 24 in a day. Hes just crazy.

So here is mine so far. I started it lastnight and worked on it a bit tonight. I think I will call this done for getting rid of the people and signs etc, since I will be distroying most of it when I come up with the composition.

Cheers :D

04 April 2007, 06:17 AM
Great attention to details. :thumbsup:

04 April 2007, 06:26 AM
Hey thanks Chih :D I just noticed a few odd curves that I will fix up right before I head to bed tonight aswell , the left railing etc :D Then It will be time to set up a composition and the real fun will start , cant wait!

04 April 2007, 07:25 AM
i really like how you've done the sort of shadow/reflection on the floor. was that just hand painted?

04 April 2007, 07:43 AM
good work mate!

but is that a person to the most right? :)

04 April 2007, 12:31 PM
wow, yeah. your clean plate is really...clean! nice floor there.

04 April 2007, 01:05 PM
Looking good mate, i like how you picked up on the bottom step and have it going around the pillars, nice one.

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 01:44 PM
Peter: thanks man , all I did for the floor was create a a layer and added noise , with a flat color over lay on top , then a new layer with hand painted reflection , then I just added a quick vertical motion blur to straighten it up.

Levi: thanks dude. Shhhhh you see no one! ;) nah haha I total missed that , I will clean it up tonight. BTW wheres your entry?!!?

Thanks Milan :)

David: Thanks mang , yeah when i first started painting over that first pillar it cought my eye and thought " ahhhh Fu*% now I gotta try and do that on the other side"


04 April 2007, 02:32 PM
hey dude, nice you are in aswell.
Looking good so far ...

04 April 2007, 03:10 PM
Thanks Marco :D

Here is a quick sketch before I head to work. I will try out some other ideas when I get home tonight.


04 April 2007, 03:14 PM
I like this one, great idea for the river !

Perhaps you could add some open area in the background...


04 April 2007, 03:21 PM
That's pretty cool. Not much left from the original but I'm not sure is that the purpose, to extend the image or just extend the canvas. Would be nice to see such like your sketch. I'll stop painting for now so no tempo, tempo, and you can catch me :p

Waiting to see more :)

04 April 2007, 07:05 PM
this is a nice composition and concept , maybe you should leave more ruins to keep the architecture and main idea , some foreground ruins would help as well and would give depth to the composition

04 April 2007, 07:54 PM
Yeh i agree mate, really nice concept but try and pull the original plate back a little :)

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 09:55 PM

I had the same idea for the river !!! :( to gind something else... I'll put askatch on my post soon.

I look forward to see more of your matte.


04 April 2007, 10:11 PM
I was going to use a river/fall too, seems like an obvious choice, no reason not to use one, i'm sure they will all look different.

(Darn it!! :D )

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 10:25 PM
i guess you guys just found the backdrop to seeing everybodies individual steps.

04 April 2007, 02:25 AM
Luca: Hey thanks for the comment , I agree I will really try and add some background in there. I will add other ruins far back there aswell .

Kerti: Yeah I really want a weathered look to this so there wont be much left of the whole place.

Jaime: Thanks :D And I agree I will add some foreground ruin to this as well a bit more of the original plate. But yeah since the idea is to have this consumed by the natural world, I do want to have much of the strusture laying on the ground. It does not look like a structure that could withstand time a great deal like the pyramids.thou the original plate will still be the main focus.

Francesco: Sorry dude! haha yeah I think once people look at that staircase we all think about adding a waterfall. But this is only a first sketch so I might not even use it. Thou I do kinda like it. It will get a second more detailed sketch for sure.

David: exactly, I think even if a lot of people use a waterfall , all will be great in there own way :D

More sketches will come soon. I have been working the last 14 days straight so I will have a few days off starting monday. I will get cracking harder then :D


04 April 2007, 02:39 AM
It does not look like a structure that could withstand time a great deal like the pyramids.

Trust me Matt it's been standing for 200 years from all the crap that england can throw at it, not to mention been bombed in WW2, i'm sure it'll stand another 2, 3, 500 years, even a thousand years :) Hey, it's british built :thumbsup:

Surprised to read you still haven't got ya DVD's yet, what's taking em?

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 02:51 AM
David some good points there lol I spose it could stand , but I do like the idea of not much of it standing , thou I will add a lot more of the plate to that sketch when i redo it. :D

Yeah its taking forever.I waited weeks and weeks for the people at Gnomon to contact me and got nothing. So I emailed them two weeks ago and they said they would send the dvds at the end of that week so I am hoping they will be here anytime :D I cant complain since I am getting 40 for free hehe I cant wait :D

Here is the list if your interested ( and dont worry I already have the Chris Stoski dvds :D


04 April 2007, 02:58 AM
I'm surprised, ain't gnomon in Canada too? Geeze! Did you get to select the list or did they? Just makes me think they're getting rid of overstock or something. Though hey, what the hell it's free, can't complain :) I might enter there recent comp, the Lair. Sounds interesting.

Don't worry too much about the painting, just try to hold onto as much as possible without contricting your ideas.

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 03:11 AM
I don't think they are in Canada but I am not 100% sure on that. They are being shipped from LA. And ohhhh yeah I got to pick them , it was great just going around on the site thinking " I want you and you and you etc etc". Since I cant really afford any of them :D Been saving my cash for my first wacom tablet and sculpting supplies. I have never seen a wacom face to face! ahhhhhhhhhhh :(

I am going to do a few more sketches very soon. I want to stay true to the main idea of the whole challenge. the plate should be fun to work with when doing the final matte :D

Tonight im working on the city life matte I have going. I havent touched it in a while :( I might update that tonight.


04 April 2007, 03:21 AM
Wow, that is cool! I thought it was cool when they accidentally sent me two DVD's by accident, but now that seems pretty laim :) Hey mate you should believe in Carma, for every good thing that happens something not so good will always follow .... your necklace :)

And i bet it was so "hard" and painful having to write out that big, ever so long list of DVDs :) ... more like laughing hesterically.

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 03:24 AM
hahaha man I was bouncing off the walls writing that list. Gitty like a little school girl all the way :D I will make sure to post a couple pics of me molesting the dvds when they arrive! so if you see them for sale someday on ebay make sure not to buy them! hehe


04 April 2007, 03:36 AM
Urrrh, the mind wonders :)

Though do post a pic when the arrive, be good to see. (You molesting the DVDs :))

Gotta say the Vue one is really crap, it's always a bad sign when the guys say, "Oops, i didn't expect that to happen" and, "mmmm, i'm not sure why that did that?" Though the Ryan Church and Dylan Cole DVDs are really great.

Catch ya later - Dave.

04 April 2007, 05:23 AM

Here is a new concept , I think this will be my final concept so next I will start the matte :D


04 April 2007, 08:01 AM
Oww, that's so far the best I have seen. Nothing too fancy, like sunset or sunrise, simple, yet a bit magical afternoon. Something I had in mind. :)

04 April 2007, 11:33 AM
Hi Matte, looking good mate, one thing worth noting, but this is purely optional is that the real building goes off quite far to the left and right so it might be worth extending the ruins.

Cheers - Dave.

04 April 2007, 11:53 AM
Yea a real ethereal quality to your concept Matt, I like it. London's never looked so good!

04 April 2007, 04:52 PM
Kerti: Thanks Kerti , I wanted to make something nice and simple , nothing crazy. It was a pretty quick concept but my main focal was more about mood. I want the place to still be beautiful but in a different way now since most of it is distroyed. the main focal point will be the statue on the stairs so I will add lots of nice flowers and vines all around that area leading downstairs to the water with a hard light from the sun hitting most of that area.

David : I will try that out for sure today , but I dont want much ruins covering up what little background I have. I do have some ruins on the ground and leading into the forest on the left(a fallen building). I might just call that part of the same place lol not to sure yet.

Cameo: hahahah I have never actually been to london so I dunno if this is a better take of it. But I know I would like to see more woods incorporated in the design of citys :D

So today I will spend some time collecting reference photos and then I will start adding them into the concept. I will try out a camera projection for this matte but I dont know if I will have one finished. I have no clue how to do animated waterfalls (guess im going to have to pull out the chris Stoski dvds). Maybe I will have it like the Matrix slowmo! so then i can just have the water still. And maybe have a few bullets flying around for no reason at all hehe


04 April 2007, 06:59 PM

I love the new concept. I think that maybe some branches from the left side tree that are moving toward the right side of the image might help to drive the focus. When i looked at it the first time it almost felt like both sides were competing. Great job so far!

04 April 2007, 07:14 PM
Thanks Dwayne , I am actually in the middle of correcting the concept now, im adding more trees on the left side , sticking out of the forest , im hoping that will help lead the eye into the statue area . also I started adding some tree branches sticking out of the rightside. I think I should have this more over grown since I dont think anyone mowed the lawn there in a while :D

I will post some of the references that I have gathers sometime today as well .


04 April 2007, 09:34 PM
Ok just another update , I am pretty much going to call this one the final concept lol , a few things i might change here and there , but this will be pretty much it :D


04 April 2007, 10:41 PM
good one, as I already told you :). dont forget the extension, dude.

04 April 2007, 05:28 AM
Another update :D

Just starting to find photos that fit the scene really. I have been taking the light out of them so that I can do that manually later on. Right now my main focus is just getting the right images for the matte and then I will tweek them once I get a good amount in place. So far I have 7 images placed. Mainly in the foreground and a couple in the back :D


04 April 2007, 07:43 AM
This will have a really great mood.

Keep it up!

04 April 2007, 10:18 AM
What Grrrrrrr said. :)
Already you can start to feel the cool, moist air of the woods.

04 April 2007, 03:03 PM
Thanks Vladimir and Sónia :D

Here are the references I used so far.

It might be a few days before I work on this again. Gotta touch up my character & environment concept portfolio for a possible job :D


04 April 2007, 04:18 PM
This is beautiful so far :) Love the mood already

04 April 2007, 06:26 PM
hot damn!! That's some fine looking progress! :eek:

04 April 2007, 06:39 PM
Thanks :D

I just got back from the post office! I now have my 40 gnomon dvds! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so I really dont know how much I will get done in the next few days lol


04 April 2007, 06:45 PM
Glad to see they came through Mat :) Long time and well deserved. What was it you said you were going to do to those DVD's again :)

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 06:59 PM
hahaha oh a few of them will be getting molested today thats for sure!!! about to stick on a ryan church dvd while i unwrap the rest! wooohoooo

They actually sent me 41 , so I gotta figure out what one wasnt on my list hehehehe

04 April 2007, 07:33 PM
They always seem to send one extra! like i was telling you about the time when i received two in the post. I bet you've got two the same :-)

The Ryan Church stuff is amazing.

So i guess the next time we see your nhm update it'll look like the interior of a Ryan Church .. church! :)

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 11:37 AM
yay u got them finally! :+)

04 April 2007, 06:38 PM
Hey mate, so how's the DVDs looking? have ya gone through the Ryan Church stuff yet?

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 08:02 PM
I guess he's not going to come back until he has seen them all, so we'll have to wait some weeks lol ... ;)

04 April 2007, 10:27 PM
HAHAHA they are great , got through one dylan cole dvd and one ryan church , im so damn drunk right now thou lol won 300$ playing the slots tonight at the local bar. But anyways ! even thou 2 dvds made me learn a lot , I think I might totally redo my concept i have so far :D They were totally inspiring. I will watch more tomorrow if im feeling ok :D

Cheers to beers!

04 April 2007, 10:34 PM
^ HAHAHA wow

04 April 2007, 08:58 AM
Hey Matellis let me know if you change your concept. I was going to change mine since ours are so similar.

04 April 2007, 02:07 PM
Will do Cliff :D

But I really dont think our concepts look alike. The main focus in mine is showing the all the flowers, vines etc that have grown all around the structure. But right now I have an idea that is a lot different than what I have now. I am not sure 100% that I will change it but if I do I will let you know :D

haha I dont even remember posting here lastnight , im surprised I "kinda " made sense lol

Cheers :D

04 April 2007, 11:56 PM
Well I shot about 400 pictures in Sedona Arizona last weekend so Im debating between a vine like overgrowth and something else.

04 April 2007, 12:35 PM
lol won 300$ playing the slots tonight at the local bar :D

ha ha now u can buy more dvd's :P unless u spent it all on beer :beer:

once i won at dog racing 200 euros. when i was freelancing in dublin... LOL it can get really addictive... :scream:

04 April 2007, 02:33 PM
looks really cool so far. I love the green and the trees.


04 April 2007, 02:02 AM
41 gnomon dvds! what, did you rob a bank? lol
I like your actually makes the apocalypse seem so.. nice :D

04 April 2007, 02:09 AM
Hey Matt, so how many have you watched so far? :)

- Dave.

04 April 2007, 02:18 AM
I am still alive! just been somewhat busy :D

Ismini: hahaha yeah its good at the moment but it gets very addictive , not good at all. I gotta try and slow down on those bloody slots!

Mark: Thanks Mark , I was thinking about changing the concept but I think this one is what I will stick with. Someday this week I will sit down and really look at it. See if any little changes need to be made.

Peter: haha no bank robbing , just won a contest held by Gnomon, you should check it out. They have a contest every month where the !st place winner gets 40 dvds! check it out gnomon forum (

David: Man I actually havent watched many , two Dylan Cole, two Ryan Church and a Feng Zhu one. I have been working at the ol gas station a lot and since we have been having some really nice weather I have been doing a lot of yard work , painting the portch , getting drunk on the deck and BBQing. With some concept painting in there too :D I hope I can get back to this challenge soon. But first I need to get these dang concepts done.


04 April 2007, 02:22 AM
Nice one Matt, Life sure needs a balance between work and play :)

04 April 2007, 02:31 AM
Thats very true. I find my art comes out better when I also do something other than art either through the day or the week. When I go on a month stretch of solid painting I always end up with stuff that I wouldnt even consider putting in my demo reel or portfolio. And then ends up being a waste of time. Well not waste , practise is practise but I need an art job damnit!
I am getting sick of the whole boring jobs and manual labour stuff. Thou the Xmas tree harvest this year was alright , I got to be out in the woods most of the day :D Thou I would be too tired to work on art until the weekend. Its time to get in gear and get an art job thou. So the challenge is a bit on the back burner for now. I will finish thou :D


04 April 2007, 08:43 AM
imagine working on art only to come home and do some arty stuff,
while getting an average of 4-6h sleep. hell yeah, that's life. or am i already dead?!?

05 May 2007, 10:12 PM
watz happenin', matt?!?

05 May 2007, 11:48 AM
Hey Milan, yeah i havent been around in a while. Been busy with a lot of other things so I have been watching the challenge from a far. I dont think I will be able to finish but I might give it a try the next couple days before it all ends.

Hopefully another challenge will start again soon and I will have time to work on that one thou :D


05 May 2007, 04:04 PM
nuh matte!
don gimme dat!!!
you could whoop out some shit in 3hours
that'd still be goode enough to enter...

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