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03-02-2003, 08:10 PM (

My latest effort with LightWave, sas hair, spinning lights for fuzzy shadows. Some post Photoshop tickle;


03-02-2003, 08:43 PM
I see who you are trying to create.... so thats a good start, only thing is... I thought she was a bit... slimmer than that? she seems a bit beefy imo... but v.nice modelling :D

03-02-2003, 10:19 PM
the skirt is way too short, even for Captain Kirk

her *beep* would show if she bends slightly:surprised

03-02-2003, 10:40 PM
Too short? Maybe, but then it's not my design;

Looks to me like they gave her a dress 2 sizes too small. :)


03-02-2003, 11:00 PM
I think it looks great. Very accurate. The one thing that stands out as being different between the reference image and your image is her badge. In fact, looking at it again it looks like all of your gold trim isn't reflecting enough light. It's an amazing likeness though.

03-02-2003, 11:02 PM
at first i would have said her legs were too fat, but after looking at the real pic...

nope... --> very accurate... well done :) :thumbsup:

03-03-2003, 12:51 AM
Lovely work, that baby has got some serious back.

I especially like the face and costume, she's got that disco loving Uhura feel about her.

The trimming around the wrists seems too neat though. If I remember correctly, the costumes in original slowly degraded over the course of the season and ended up all wrinkled and crappy by the end, like they got shrunk in the wash or something.

03-03-2003, 02:13 AM
Alternate view, different camera focal length and lighting change;


03-03-2003, 02:38 AM
Beautiful work man..I love it! great likeness!

and i love the short skirts....adds a certain naughtyness to it..even for the 60's;)

I do agree that the gold needs to look a bit more shiny and bright..

you gonna do any more characters?

actually as I recall , the first head I ever attempted to create for my portfolio class was Leonard Nemoy as classic spock...but it didnt come out half as accurate as yours....

great job

03-03-2003, 03:09 AM
Excellent work again Terry - your character work is spot on as usual! :)

03-03-2003, 03:11 AM
Why doesnt this have a star rating? i think the likeness is GREAT and a bit stylized, the lighting in the background is pretty real /textures ect..


03-03-2003, 05:21 AM
It's not that she's fat, it's that the image was taken from an NTSC television image -- that has a 0.9 pixel image aspect ratio, meaning, it's a little taller than it is wide. When translated to a square pixel image, you get her exactly 10% too wide.
Try rendering out at a non-square pixel aspect ratio and it may save you time re-modeling.
Besides that, great work. And I believe Cap'n Kirk required all skirts to be at that length. If I were Kirk, I'd do the same.

03-03-2003, 08:29 AM
Fantastic piece of work! Great character and great bridge behind her! Well done :applause:

03-03-2003, 09:54 AM
very nice. I like it a lot. Id like to see her animated. Can you make us my favorite character Mr Spock?

03-03-2003, 10:36 AM
Someone give this the CGTalk award.

It looks near perfect. I'd say make the starfleet insignia and rank more shiny, and it'd be perfect!

03-03-2003, 10:37 AM
Oh and did you make that bridge as well? Is it the whole thing or only a section? You should see some of the stuff a guy named SeanR has made.

03-03-2003, 11:48 AM
Character is great.

03-03-2003, 12:02 PM
Ohh brilliant, love it, she was a bit podgy too, but hell she had the only brests on the bridge and this makes me feel all gooie inside:) Ohh monday nights, oops sorry reminissing, but the pic is great and it brought it all flooding back. I can just here it now the boys on the bridge "Its life Jim but not as we know it".

Thanks for posting


03-03-2003, 12:12 PM
Excelent model... by apparently excelent modeling! Good job! And you show off a masterful weilding of sasquatch! The hair is perfect!

I am no trecker-geek (I am a geek though, so no offence intended :wavey: ) so I canīt tell on the accuracy from the "original". Telling from the ref-pic though, I can see you have done something sligthly not correct in the shading of her face. I suggest you increase glossines somewhat and decrease specularity slightly. It kinda looks like her face is of the same material as the pantyhose... and she doesnīt wear that on her head, does she?

03-03-2003, 12:55 PM
Thanks for the comments.

Matt: The bridge is just a wall section (actualy 2 - I just rotated it) and the door. I tried having an enclosed bridge for a radiosity version but all those glowing buttons were killing my CPU.

As for her proportions, I'm fairly confident that they're about right. It's from the 60s remember, before anorexia became fashionable in the media :)



03-03-2003, 01:41 PM
"...adds a certain naughtyness to it..even for the 60's"

Heh, heh. "Even for the 60's" ? That's pretty funny.

Mini-skirts, hot pants, and leather boots. You had to a love a TV show which required all three for it's women actors.

My comment is that there seems to be something a little off in the face. It's a little too shiny. Maybe vary the spec value a little, limiting it to the lips and nose.

03-03-2003, 02:12 PM
looks great to me!

03-03-2003, 02:28 PM
Very nice work! Love the modeling and lightning..:thumbsup:

03-03-2003, 02:58 PM
looking at the reference.... she really did have quite wide legs and hips... my mistake before.

v.accurate and the likeness is v.good :D
nice one:bounce:

03-03-2003, 03:12 PM
Wow, that is terrific. The SAS setting look really good too. Great job! So how do you create your SAS guides?

03-03-2003, 03:17 PM
LW gallery material for sure:

03-03-2003, 03:38 PM
inspirational work as usual :)
and great choice of character too. wish i thought of that myself :D

03-03-2003, 04:00 PM

That's just so sweet! Amazing work, really nice!

Some comments though (imho):
- the shiny golden parts are not as shiny as they should be
- her skin is more yellow than brown on cg pic, however the reference is more brownish. Maybe it is just the high specularity...?

I've checked your site also. As I see very soon you'll have problems to develop your modelling skills, if you know what I mean... ;)

Keep it up!

03-03-2003, 04:25 PM
WOW! I am super impressed! After seeing so much Star Trek starship art, this is a real treat. (especially being that I'm one of those starship-only artists ;))

Hey you should send a print out of this to Nichelle Nichols. I bet you'd seriously make her day! :)

Great job!

03-03-2003, 04:26 PM
Great model !!!!! :bounce: :bounce:

03-03-2003, 04:32 PM

That is just pure class. :)


03-03-2003, 04:35 PM
Once again, Terry put the art in CG.
Lets see..checklist: White girl, Asian girl and now Black girl. You should make a picture with all three of them.

Your girl looks more "real" because they are not "flockhart-30 lbs " girls with balloon breast (hey I am guilty of it myself). Great work...Modeling is just excellent.

Do you model your characters into position or use bones.

03-03-2003, 05:17 PM
Beautiful work :thumbsup:

You might consider toning down the spec on the face though. It looks a bit bright compared to the pic.

03-03-2003, 05:39 PM
Yea. I think it's really very good. If not perfect then as close as possible. You have character work down pat.

Maybe someday you'll allow people to use them for animations or fan-film work, etc. ?? : > The Grand Moff Tarkin on your website is very very good too. :drool:

03-03-2003, 06:23 PM
It's great! She's what we call "Thick boned" Definitely a hottie with the skirt. Even in the later StarTrack movies they pumped up her sexuality. and she was up there in age.

However, the reference photo seems distorted to me. Maybe a video grab with rectangle pixel pulling into computer square pixels. This always bothers me about most of the consumer televisions, big screen and the like. I don't know how people watch a distorted image, or moreso how manufacturers can sell them. Oh...where was I?

Anyway, looks like you compensated in your work. Nice.

Also, from the reference, how did you get her face so well? It's not a flat plan.

Keep up the good work.

03-03-2003, 07:17 PM
I had lots of reference pics from the 'net (most were too small, fuzzy or distorted to be much use). I just posted that one to illustrate the skirt length, it wasn't my primary reference. Skin tone and specular were tricky to settle on, I have screen grabs where she has very dark skin and some with very light skin, some powder dry and some shiny. I settled for low spec and medium dark skin tone :shrug:.

ClingFree: Hair guides were rail extruded splines in three forms; fringe, main hair mass, and a pair of wierd squiggle forms that are styled from the front of her hair (as seen in the "tribbles" episode :)). Converted to poly chains with CurveToPolychain, jittered and tweeked with the magnet tool.

Julez4001: Neutral position model, posed with bones. very restrained use of weightmaps; arms, legs, torso, head, odd fingers, even fingers. :) No left/right weights - bone falloff takes care of that.


03-03-2003, 08:00 PM
what a babe

looks like the ref to me, great job!

03-03-2003, 08:28 PM
Impressive. Most Impressive.

Heh! How could I resist using a Star Wars Quote eh!?

Great Stuff!

03-03-2003, 08:51 PM
nice one bro,:thumbsup: could you explain more about the spinning lights for fuzzy shadows comment, as i've never come across it. :)

03-03-2003, 09:59 PM
Spinning lights technique; I'm not sure if it's applicable to other software, I think it exploits some unique features of LightWave's renderer. This is the first time I've tried it.

In short it's a way to make shadows more realistically blurred as they are further away from the shadow casting object. Like area lights, but much faster to render.

The technique is described fully by Dave Jerrard here;


03-03-2003, 10:35 PM
I remember the tribbles.:thumbsup:

Thanks for the info Terry. She really does look fantastic.

03-03-2003, 11:12 PM
TerryFord ...don't forget to put all your girls in one single picture.:love:

You done the spectrum..U gotta do it...its a classic setup....

03-03-2003, 11:17 PM
simply great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

post a new pic so we can see what she is wearing under the dress (maybe one with her picking up her tricorder :drool: )


03-03-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Julez4001
TerryFord ...don't forget to put all your girls in one single picture.:love:

Actually I was planning to do that with variations on the goth costume in red, white and black. But I went off the idea :D


03-04-2003, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by dark_lotus
Heh! How could I resist using a Star Wars Quote eh!?

Star Wars is a quote of Star Trek. "Oh no they're firing proton torpedoes at us! I think we're being pulled in by some tractorbeam!"...

More renders please!

03-04-2003, 01:48 AM
flippin' kick butt, man - great idea great execution. up and over the bar IMHO.


03-04-2003, 01:53 AM
Beam me aboard captain, nice stuff indeed.

03-04-2003, 08:42 AM
Wow, awesome job, you really captured the look of Nichelle as well as the feel of the original set, great work!!! ;)
My only crit would be her starfleet symbol on her chest seems too dull, and not shiney like the one in the pic and series. Other than that, brilliant!!! ;)


03-04-2003, 09:02 AM
Yay! Star trek!! :D

03-04-2003, 09:49 AM
I like it... really.

Keep on. :)

03-04-2003, 11:50 AM
Very very sexy indeed, you captured her very nicely, its near perfect! I can't really crit on anything other than the fact that she was one *cough* well you know :rolleyes: heheh

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03-04-2003, 12:48 PM
Argh! again with the badge shinyness :) I guess the reflection is hitting a dark part of the reflection map or background. Maybe if I change the relection map image...

I'll try to do a seated pose. If I don't post it here you'll know that the rig wasn't up to it. :)


03-04-2003, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by terryford
Actually I was planning to do that with variations on the goth costume in red, white and black. But I went off the idea :D


U not gonna do it...awwwwww man
man i feel like a teen again

03-04-2003, 12:58 PM
Everyone agrees on the brilliant character, but the only crit is on the badge... hmm, things are becoming serious... ;)

As I see you've got a golden piece from lildragon. "Please feel free to display this image anywhere you like!" -> as a reflection map for the badge??? :D


03-04-2003, 08:46 PM
Very nice. She looks lost in thought.
Always my fav of the original 3 (Uhura, Rand and Chapel)

07-24-2004, 09:40 PM
full cred on subject matter. nerdy, but in a more respectable way.

super full cred on not giving her a 21st century body, sexy was different in the 60's.

super-duper full cred on the work itself.

09-19-2004, 06:05 AM
I'm a fan of Trek myself and I think you did a really great job. She looks stunning.

10-12-2004, 11:11 AM
very nice. I like it a lot. Id like to see her animated. Can you make us my favorite character Mr Spock?o,I !HO

01-19-2005, 04:49 PM
It's not that she's fat, it's that the image was taken from an NTSC television image -- that has a 0.9 pixel image aspect ratio, meaning, it's a little taller than it is wide. When translated to a square pixel image, you get her exactly 10% too wide.

Hey thans for the info! This is interesting :) I always wondered why is she so fat... :)

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