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02 February 2007, 03:38 PM
ok i started that before xmas, but i had to formatt and forgot about it....this is the steps i took so far: (

02 February 2007, 04:50 PM
all the people, rail and cables are erased. and rough sketch for background: (

02 February 2007, 08:20 PM
still comping stuff together...needs colour correction , shadows and hell lot'f work more. ;)
crits peeps, please! (

02 February 2007, 01:21 AM
Hey you!!

Good to see ya back here doin stuff...
This is looking good to me so far... keep at it and I'll try to drop in and watch it progress...

02 February 2007, 01:26 AM
seamless sticht , well done, I would definitly do a matte painitng and camera move, but I see an important issue, the flat lighting opf the castle is going to be a rpblem to give a nice mood to the whole image. anyway it is coming along really great, looking forward to see the final secuance or image

02 February 2007, 12:03 PM
jammie thanks! i know about the shadows...will see how it goes...might make it into a night scene instead...

now for the matte i was thinking, i know sligthly lame, but at some short of lava river in front of the church so i can play with smoke and particles and a small camera move.
that though would have to elliminate the trees in the back as trees don't grow on lava soil....
unless i do some short of dead trees or something! or skip the lava and have some short of steam coming out...

i will definatelly need your help with the camera move :P as it will be my first one!

02 February 2007, 12:13 PM
tis is great!

The castle seems a bit flat in terms of lighting but other than that its awsome :D

02 February 2007, 12:25 PM
As you know i am found of Ireland so it is great to see such a beautiful place ! But I like the green aspect of Ireland so this black ground and devilish sky is a bit scary to me :)
But it will look great in the end.
Really nice work on the photo monstage.
I would like to see more space around the church if possible. I am waiting for the progress on this nice picture.
Se filo!

02 February 2007, 03:04 PM
Hi Ismini, glad to see you back here:) picture is goin great, I love that wide angle shoot of a building:thumbsup:

02 February 2007, 10:23 PM
hi guys small update on the rocks (u cant really see in this size) stiching them together seamlessly etc...also added that bridge and that liquidy river...not sure if i want to do lava or water...ideas taken...
ok now this lovely camera angle that i choose is fearly hard to match...any tips?? (

02 February 2007, 12:15 AM
so i used vodoo and managed to track the image. problem is it doesnt align very nicely in xsi... but i got the angle i wanted and built some test 3d to see how it would look like at the end...
here's a little rough test: click on it its a photobucket link :) (

02 February 2007, 12:18 AM
Well I definitely think this is going well so far. I just wanted to chip in and say, please do water, not lava. Lava is overdone IMO and water could help to make a piece of work that really fools people into thinking they are seeing reality! I LOVE PHOTOREALISM!!! :)


02 February 2007, 03:13 PM
How do you blend three separate images like those on your first post?

02 February 2007, 11:52 AM
Nick, I kind of came to that conclussion before I asked the question...Will be easier for the trees in the BG as well, how the hell would they grow in a lava enviroment :wise:

Hej Noor that's a bit of a long question to answer, i suppose using photoshop tools, like transform, stamp etc...and have a good eye in how prespective works...You should better have a look at the tutorials section!

02 February 2007, 12:14 PM
Yea good point about the trees, they'd have to be pretty tough trees!
I cant wait to see your next update!


03 March 2007, 01:04 PM
i finalised, short of the composition and the blend of the images...u cant really see at this scale but it needed loads of im playing with colours and trying to add shadows for a more atmosferic image, as james noted its hard...
hoping to make the river 3d.. trying to camera map it at the same time, first timer so it takes ages...

note still not final image... (

03 March 2007, 01:11 PM
Wow this is looking really cool now! Do a good job of that water and it will all come together really nicely!!
Im subscribed and looking forward to updates!

03 March 2007, 01:20 PM
faster reply ever :thumbsup:

i will nail that thing soon arhhh its bugging me at the moment... hating the technical issues....

03 March 2007, 04:30 PM
yeah I think it is looking good so far, but I would create a more dramatical, interesting sky .

also one of the windows looks greenish , keep it up

03 March 2007, 10:55 PM
I like the colors of the front (fašade is an english word?).
Also the lights in the windows look nice!

03 March 2007, 12:30 PM
Looking good, the church stitch was well done. I think maybe the scene is a little too red, just personal preference though. The fisheye effect of the church looks well but i'm not quite sure if it matches the background, what would happen to the sky? would that fish eye as well? Not too sure about the trees, they seem too large in relation to the near building. Maybe some nice jaggy rocks :-) Overall coming on well, be good to see how it developes.:thumbsup:

- Dave.

03 March 2007, 12:44 PM
Looking very good!

I agree with Jaime and David thou , the fish eye is very nice but the mountains need it aswell. Also I think the white around the windows look a little bit too white in my opinion.

Keep rocking the canvas!


03 March 2007, 12:54 PM
ah cheers guys,

yeah i agree with all that u said... i always try to make the hardest thing first for my first proper matte LOL today i am actally animating :wise: ohhh so i will get back to it very soon!

03 March 2007, 12:46 AM
Yea you might wanna take another look at the pixel light bloom on the foliage to the left too mate, coz there seems to be a fair bit of pixel junk that you can clean up. I dont know whether you were intending to go back and look at that anyway, but thought id mention it :)

Look forward to updates!


03 March 2007, 11:14 AM
yup!! although u could hardly see it before, as i had callirbrated my monitor badly (arhhh laptop displays :S) so this time i got callibration software and it has made massive difference.

ta though...

03 March 2007, 11:45 AM
Yea I know what you mean. I hda a massive callibration problem when I went to print with a couple of portfolio pieces recently. What software did you use out of curiousity?


03 March 2007, 06:16 PM
great matte painting there ismini,
cool to see your new work :)

03 March 2007, 11:36 AM
Yea I know what you mean. I hda a massive callibration problem when I went to print with a couple of portfolio pieces recently. What software did you use out of curiousity?


Nick sorry I didn't mean to be rude and not reply but i didn't see it.. :eek:

I used DisplayMate ( the cheapest one, thanks to the $ drop its not that expensive for UK standarts.. It basically does loads of tests with colours grayscales etc etc and gives you instructions on how to fix it...still it's up to your monitor but i can see a difference on mine.....

I heard though that the best way is to buy callibration hardware but that's expensive.

Heber good to see you here! Glad we chatted the other day after all this time! :thumbsup:

03 March 2007, 12:25 PM
been busy to finish an animation job, so I only got a small update:

after half an hour of playing in photoshop

a: I painted an idea for a new sky...I will have to find it or stich i can't paint skies.

b: I'm ditching the trees, it will be more rocks yeah! Still not happy with them yet but something like that, and possibly the source of the river from there...

c: It's not 100% fish eye, i mean a fish eye lence does round things a lot!! So I'm not sure I want to do that to the rocks, I tried and it looks weird.. Brainstorming there, for a better idea..Mind you guys, I kind of like the rocks as they are... (

03 March 2007, 05:39 PM
Hey Ismini,

How's it going :-)

Well i agree that the rocks look better than the trees, thats a starts ;)

It's a difficult one this, the church itself looks really great and the forground, it's just the background that i think struggles.


Hope you don't mind, i've just done a quick paint over to see if i can inspire any ideas (don't kill me :-)

Mainly i've tried to draw the focus away from the fish eye effect by directing the viewer with the light. I've also shaped the background to follow the general shape and composition of the church.

Yeah, i think that's the key, redirect the viewers eye to something else in the scene.

Keep it up. :thumbsup:

- Dave.

03 March 2007, 06:03 PM
don't kill me :-)

now, where do u leave again? he he only joking..

thanks! yeah, i was stuck with the rocks i like where you going with that! I ll definatelly give it a go...and the flare from the glouds is cool too.

thanks a million for the help :)

shouldn't you be going out on a friday eve?

03 March 2007, 06:15 PM
shouldn't you be going out on a friday eve?

Ahhhh, the memories :) Is it Friday??!!!

work, work, work, i'm afraid, even on Fridays nights :) and saturdays ... oh and Sundays. Sad me, i'm going to cry :cry:

Though we can have a virtual one i guess:beer: that's as close as i get in recent months.

Taking another look at your pic, i think its the right side of the church that causes most of the problem, the part that seems to bend around, maybe play around with this area, you could even cover it with rocks and have them half stuck in the church.

Keep at it.

Dave. :thumbsup:

03 March 2007, 06:25 PM
:beer: same for me... although i might go to threshers later ;)
yah i never liked the right part...thats why i put the rocks on the first place! right-o will put some more.

03 March 2007, 12:37 PM

Dont worry, i didn't think you were being rude :) In fact its been a while since I've checked back here coz i've been really busy. Liking the progress, the rocks look better than the trees.
I think Everlite has some nice ideas. The background rocks would look better compositionally if you changed them slightly, and the light is kind of a nice idea, although I would be subtke with that coz its very easy to overdo!

Looking great, and thanks for the info on the callibration!


03 March 2007, 01:33 PM
got a new gig at cartoon network so i'm busy as hell animating but i m sure coming back to this for sure.

03 March 2007, 01:53 PM
Sounds interesting, good luck :)

- Dave.

03 March 2007, 02:08 PM
Sounds interesting, good luck :)

- Dave.

ta.. its defo interesting its the characters are very simple star, torus, cube etc and need a hell good char anim to work ;) excellent char anim practise.

03 March 2007, 02:24 PM
Yeh that will be a good experience, it's always difficult to get a good performance out of inanimate objects. It'll be good for the portfolio too :) The character animations you did on your website are pretty cool, the pig characters well done. Oh and the kitty looks cool :)

- Dave.

03 March 2007, 03:31 PM
yes i definatelly need a boost on my reel. thanks for your kind words :rolleyes:

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