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12 December 2006, 06:23 AM

OFDW 020: Dec. 5, 2006 - Jan. 10, 2007

***Please note the deadline extension to Jan. 10!!!***

Welcome to the TWENTIETH thread of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop!

This workshop is open to any medium and any style. Some informal moderation
will be gladly provided ~ however, the purpose of the Workshop is for Artists to
interact with and informally critique one another’s work.

The goal of this Workshop is to COMPLETE one or more FINISHED Master Copies.This is unlike the Anatomy Lesson Series in which the goal is quantity. Here, it's QUALITY of one or two finished pieces.

As always, the OFDWs are open to both 2D and 3D artists.

Reference Source: (

Choice 01:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)
Oil on canvas, 1879
20 1/2 x 16 1/4 inches (52.1 x 41.3 cm)
Hamburger Kunsthalle, Hamburg

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 02:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)
Oil on canvas, 1862
Private collection

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 03:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)
A Bather
Oil on canvas
Private collection

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 04:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)
Oil on canvas
Private collection

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 05:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Baronne James de Rothschild, née Betty von Rothschild
Oil on canvas, 1848
55 3/4 x 39 3/4 inches (141.9 x 101 cm)

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 06:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Copy after Ingres's 1804 Self-Portrait
Oil on canvas, c.1850-1860
34 x 27 1/2 inches (86.4 x 69.9 cm)

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 07:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Madame Marie Marcotte (Marcotte de Sainte-Marie), née Suzanne-Clarisse de Salvaing de Boissieu
Oil on canvas, 1826
36 1/2 x 29 1/8 inches (93 x 74 cm)

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 08:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Princesse Albert de Broglie, née Joséphine-Eléonore-Marie-Pauline de Galard de Brassac de Béarn
Oil on canvas, 1853
47 3/4 x 35 5/8 inches (121.3 x 90.8 cm)

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 09:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Study for The Martyrdom of St. Symphorien
Oil on canvas, 1824-1834
Musée Ingres, Montauban

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 10:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Study for The Martyrdom of St. Symphorien
Oil on canvas, 1824-1834
Musée Ingres, Montauban

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 11:
Lambert-Sigisbert Adam (1700-1759)
Neptune Calming the Waves
Marble, 1737
Musée du Louvre, Paris

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 12:
After Leochares
Apollo Belvedere
Marble, c.200
Pio-Clementine Museum, The Vatican

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 14:
Alessandro Algardi (1598-1654)
Terracotta, c.1650-1659
Hermitage, St Petersburg

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 15:
Alessandro Algardi (1598-1654)
Marble, 1635
Galleria Borghese, Rome

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 16:
Friedrich von Amerling (1803-1887)
Mutter Und Kinden
Oil on canvas laid down on panel
55 7/8 x 44 inches (142.2 x 111.8 cm)
Private collection

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 17:
Eugène-Emmanuel Amaury-Duval (1808-1885)
La Naissance de Venus [The Birth of Venus]
Oil on canvas, 1862
77 1/2 x 42 7/8 inches (196.85 x 108.90 cm)
Musée des Beaux-Arts, Lille

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 18:
Bartolomeo Ammanati (1511-1592)
Marble, 1540
Museo Nazionale del Bargello, Florence

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 19:
Ferdinando Andreini (1843-)
Woman At The Well
31 x 79 inches (79 x 200.7 cm)
Private collection

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 20:
Dirck van Baburen (1590-1624)
Prometheus Being Chained by Vulcan
Oil on canvas, 1623
79 1/2 x 72 3/8 inches (202 x 184 cm)
Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

Choice 21:
Caravaggio (1571-1610)
Amor Victorious
Oil on canvas, 1602-1603
61 3/8 x 44 3/8 inches (156 x 113 cm)
Staatliche Museen, Berlin

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

12 December 2006, 06:56 AM

1. Photographs are the property of (

2. The drawings created from the photo reference provided here MUST be TASTEFUL,SINCERE, RESPECTFUL, and for the purpose of serious study of the human figure. Those who post silly, disrespectful, or tasteless work will have their posts deleted immediately and will no longer be allowed to post on this thread.

3. This Workshop will run from Dec. 5, 2006 - Jan. 5, 2007.

4. There is NO LIMIT to the NUMBER of posts an artist may make. However, we ask that you post only your BEST WORK, even if it is considered unfinished.

5. Artists who post comments and critiques of other artists' work on this thread must be RESPECTFUL, POLITE, and offer CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. Flaming will be NOT be tolerated, and constitutes dismissal from this and other threads.

6. I will be offering the occasional comments / critique ~ however, the main focus of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop threads should be on Group Critique and interaction. :)

7. ANY MEDIUM or STYLE may be used: Traditional or Digital Drawing or Painting, Gestural, Sketch, Finished Render, etc.

8. 3D Artists who wish to use the reference for 3D models are free to do so.

9. Please limit the SIZE of your POSTS to 800 pixels WIDTH x Appropriate pixel LENGTH. No huge posts, please!

10. Please post your WIP and finished work to this thread. However, you are encouraged to also post your work to your Personal Sketchbook Thread if you already have one, or to create one if you do not, here:

( Anatomy & Sketchbook Threads (

11. Have fun, enjoy, and create great art! :)


PLEASE NOTE: WIP (Work In Progress) images are an important part of the OFDWs and are encouraged. Please DO post WIP images as you work on your pieces. :)


Tracing constitutes cheating on CGTalk, and traced work is not accepted into CGTalk's Galleries. Please freehand draw and paint. Use of a Grid is accepted. :)


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If you would like to see the finished work from previous OFDWs, look here:

Links to all OFDW SPOTLIGHT Threads (

12 December 2006, 06:56 AM
The official Workshop has concluded!

To see the work of all participants and the best work from this Workshop, visit:

Open Figure Drawing Workshop 020 - All Participants' Final Pieces (


Thanks to everyone for their participation! :)

12 December 2006, 07:15 AM
ZOMG first post!

I mean, sure, I'll bite. Or at least try. :p

12 December 2006, 07:35 AM
Sweeet! It's baaack. Haha.

12 December 2006, 07:44 AM


12 December 2006, 08:11 AM
How exciting!! :) :) :)
Thank you Rebeccak :thumbsup:

cheers all
a. :)

12 December 2006, 08:19 AM
tadaaa.... welcome again :D
I`ll try to join.

12 December 2006, 08:24 AM
Alright! looking forward to start on this one :)

12 December 2006, 08:53 AM
I hope everyone can find the time to join in :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 08:58 AM
I'm in... I know what to do during vacation (or at least i will try ;)

12 December 2006, 09:23 AM
Hi Rebecca,

great! I am in and hope a lot of more people are following. :bounce:

First try to find the right proportions.


12 December 2006, 09:47 AM
Fantastic references, a great occasion to improve my clothes painting skills, I already have mu eyes on two images :D
Good luck and good work to everyone!

12 December 2006, 09:55 AM
I will finish one of these ! *lol*

Still in a hurry around here, will be travelling out of country soon, but already took an hour a day for this OFDW. So in short.. I'm back here :) *giggles*
Thanks for being around !


Good artwork to everybody here !

12 December 2006, 10:06 AM
Oh, I'm definately in on this one. I need the practice hehe :D

12 December 2006, 10:20 AM
even though i'm extremely busy, i will follow this one...

12 December 2006, 11:01 AM
I'll join, let's hope I get more done than the last time :D

12 December 2006, 11:13 AM
Yay! I'm in! I was really looking forward to this!

12 December 2006, 11:26 AM
HEEE! I hope I can join in that one - some of my fav paintings in here :) Thanks Rebeccak!:bounce:

12 December 2006, 11:41 AM
Waw! Hi all! I join. I like OFDW :) For it i don't need more free time.
Mi first 20 min in lunch break.

12 December 2006, 01:11 PM
Hi all :)

Great to see the enthusiasm when new workshops go up :thumbsup:

Going to try and paint one maybe two, depending on time... but want to do some sketches first, trying to choose, and started with this one :)

cheers all and take care
a. :)

12 December 2006, 01:26 PM
Took about 2 hours.

12 December 2006, 01:50 PM
Hey guys,

Great to see some entries already. :) Remember that the emphasis here is not speed - it's finish. I look forward to seeing everyone's work over course of this month - I hope there are some awesome pieces at the end. :)

Also remember that anyone who does not have one already is free to start up a Personal Sketchbook here:

Personal Anatomy & Sketchbook Threads (

You're encouraged to post your work both here to the main Workshop thread, and to track your progress / WIP in a Personal Sketchbook thread - however, of course it's not a requirement that you do so - the preference is that you post your work here, in this main Workshop thread.

12 December 2006, 02:17 PM
Hi Rebecca,

*shame on me* but I am naturally impatient, that is why this time I'll try to find my
way to finished at least one of this beautiful images.

Pardon me. Please.

Hmpf, I bought this, cheap thing and kinda instable - this easle. Don't have the faintest idea how to do this right. Perhaps a month is too short, because I'll need many starts. Producing much wasted paper the next time.

Great starts of the others. :)



12 December 2006, 02:21 PM
Hihi Ellie,

No shame at all! :) Looks like you're off to a great start with this - you have good instincts, definitely trust them. I would say as long as you shade very carefully / lightly at first and build tones gradually, you should be in great shape. Definitely take WIP pictures as you go along! :)

12 December 2006, 02:28 PM
ooh this looks great
i'll join in


12 December 2006, 02:31 PM
Now that I have a computer that can handle my needs, I may try this out. Before I was a little reluctent because I didn't want to use my supplies, but I will go CG this time so it wont cost a penny.

I will pick No.1, as it seems the most natural there.

It may take me a few days to get started as I have a busy schedule.

12 December 2006, 03:30 PM
Although I am still a beginner I would love to participate. :) I hope I will finish my image in time - because I am a very slow painter. :rolleyes:
Here is my first scetch.

12 December 2006, 03:33 PM
Ups, can somebody tell my how I can upload my image in a normal size? I chose attachments and it shows just a thumb. :eek: Thanks in advance.

12 December 2006, 03:34 PM
Ups, can somebody tell my how I can upload my image in a normal size? I chose attachments and it shows just a thumb. :eek: Thanks in advance.

No worries - check out this thread for image posting:

New to CGTalk? Learn how to post IMAGES here! (

Great start! Looking forward to more. :)

12 December 2006, 03:46 PM
Thank you Rebeccak.

I hope I understood anything. :)

12 December 2006, 03:46 PM
oooh Leighton! My favorite. Now I just have to choose which one! :)

12 December 2006, 03:54 PM
Yayy! Im in for sure, I missed you all too much, good luck to everyone with your pieces :D

12 December 2006, 04:07 PM
hmmm...i'l b slow cuz of exams but i'l try to match the deadline :)

12 December 2006, 04:46 PM
I have started to work only with black color to show the form and base illumination. A background is color. Then I shall try to put whitewash and on top thin transparent strokes color. If it will turn out. As in the real painting.

12 December 2006, 05:02 PM
Good to see regulars like DiM and Frejasphere back here, and also great to see newcomers on board - keep pushing your work guys, I look forward to seeing everyone's progress. :)

12 December 2006, 05:11 PM T
This is all kinds of bad.

12 December 2006, 06:34 PM
thinking of doing a couple or so...
need the practice

It was difficult keeping her look young enough...even now she still looks older...

Study for The Martyrdom of St. Symphorien
Page change got in the way + some negative forms didn't come out very well.
Better work out the whole instead of working my way to the next page...


12 December 2006, 06:38 PM
ooh me, me! Pick me, pick me! *waving arms*

Im sooo in! =D Im a bit busy, but ill get my lazy behind working on this! Thanks for another workshop Rebecca!

Ill update as soon as I have something to show!

12 December 2006, 06:46 PM
Damn, why does this have to start now! Im too damn busy*crys*. I'll do my best to compete with you guys anyways.

12 December 2006, 09:30 PM
Is it alright if I tweak this image slightly so that the colours are not too flat? Would be easier to recognise the tones that way. Here is what I mean:
This is just a tweaked version so that the colours are a little richer to see. I did more tweaks, but that changed the original design far too much. This slight tweak gives the painting less age.

12 December 2006, 11:51 PM
im excited,
this will give me something to do over the break.

but are we limited to the 21 pictures at the top of the thread or may we choose others from the site?

12 December 2006, 11:56 PM
im excited,
this will give me something to do over the break.

but are we limited to the 21 pictures at the top of the thread or may we choose others from the site?
Hi there, :) I would vastly prefer that participants choose an image from the selection above - since the strength of the Workshop typically is being able to compare your own work to that of others.

That being said, if you feel REALLY strongly about doing another piece, then feel free - just post your reference here so that others can work from it as well. I'd like to stick to the provided ref as much as possible though for the reasons mentioned above. Hope this makes sense. :)

Great to see so many entries so far everyone - a big welcome to all the newcomers! :)



12 December 2006, 12:01 AM
I'm going to take a stab at Lord Frederick Leighton's work #2. This should be fun and challenging. The rest of you are so fast!

12 December 2006, 12:18 AM
Hey guys!

Here's what I got so far:

Good luck to all participants, huge respect to those brave enough to do it in traditional media and even huge-er thanks to Rebecca for starting this workshop! :thumbsup:


12 December 2006, 01:56 AM
Great! I've got a couple other projects going (plus the holidays and all...) but I'd love to throw my hat in the ring on this one...

12 December 2006, 02:36 AM people, I'm new to these forums. This is my first attempt at an online project also. I hope to post as frequently as possible and continue to learn from you all.

12 December 2006, 03:26 AM
:bounce: Im very excited about this extremely cool workshop, I hope I can finish it before the deadline :), everyone is doing awesome job gals and guys, here is the start of my humble contribution to this workshop, I choose one of Ingres :D, I did this directly on PS with the help of a grid and it took about 1 hour hope you like it and you can give me some feedback thanks for looking

12 December 2006, 04:16 AM
Dag-gum you Reb. You caught me off gaurd. I haven't finished my other piece up yet and I am studying for another exam in February. Oh well, I cannot turn down a good OFDW. So it is, OFDW 20. Let's see, what am I going to work on. I am so excited, my first OFDW in digital. Let's go!

12 December 2006, 04:21 AM
Damn Ellie - Her hair is beautiful from what I can tell in the picture. Great start!

12 December 2006, 04:26 AM
Haha this sux ;) Probaly going to spend some hours tomorrow or correcting it, or strating over. Anyway~

12 December 2006, 04:45 AM
Took quite a while to get the face to looke right. But it doesn't. Heck i kinda like how it turned out...for now.

12 December 2006, 05:04 AM
I really hope you keep improving that paint because is going great :thumbsup:, would like to see the next update already!!


Hey, great job in that piece I really really love the face of yours :D, looks like this one will be an awesome copy, something that I really love about Ingres' work are the fabrics, can wait to see the development in this one, I will keep watching your work for sure.

12 December 2006, 06:18 AM
Thanks DigitalSol. Yeah Ingres' fabrics are great, but it's his women that im interested in. Hope to critique each other later on.

12 December 2006, 06:20 AM
Oooh! the big 2-0 and one of my favourite Carravaggio's to boot.. though I'm sorely tempted by Leighton's image no 3, the oil brushes in Painter would be perfect for that! Nngh! So much other stuff to do, but but but... must find time! Damn this irritation called sleep! Some lovely work going on here already, kuraudo that start is lovely, reminds me a bit of the style that Aly Fell, aka Poshspice, paints in, it looks great so far, and your digital sketching is amazing!

12 December 2006, 06:32 AM
Here is my start for tonight. Then I am going to bed. I finished my lesson for tonight and made a quick 5 minute sketch of my master study, La Naissance de Venus. I know it needs work but I officially start with this then its night-night.

Hi Zeph, didn't see you here. Hope we can crit each other through this. More you than me...I need help!

12 December 2006, 09:55 AM

Enrique. Happy to see you join in. Good start.

Only 2 hours, wow. Looks pretty good to me.

Greetings from Hamburg, hehe, I think it is better to be slow and doing things with patience than to rush and stop.

Wow, many people, goooood.

Thank you.

Next step. Hope my preparatory drawing works, I recognized the feet are too big.

Technical, I used no grid but made some feature points I measured out. Start position of Head and end of feet, reight knee, the right elbow and chin for not to get too off of the figure. I find this very difficult to do, feel the need of the undo-key. And I worry about the drapery, it will kill me.


more 2 hrs.

12 December 2006, 10:12 AM
I'll join. This is an exercise that I want to do. I will do with 3d this time.

12 December 2006, 01:15 PM
kuraudo - Your piece has so much detail in such a short period of time. Great job. Sorry I was too tired to comment last night.:shrug:

Ellie - Going traditional. Your pencil work is fantastic. I would love to see it in digital too!:drool:

OneDeadCat and Sulamoon - Looks like a friendly competition coming on.:deal: These identical pieces are getting done differently and will be interesting to see how each turns out using different techniques.

Reb - You started this. Are you joining?:beer:

12 December 2006, 01:50 PM
WOW! dudes, there is already some awesome amount of cool work in this thread. cool stuff guys keep em commin! :)

12 December 2006, 02:48 PM
Great stuff going on here guys - keep posting! :)

If you'd like to stay up with this thread after the plug goes off the front page, be sure to bookmark / subscribe to this thread in order to find it later.

Also, everyone please create new posts for updates rather than updating older ones since no one will know you've updated if you update an old post. We definitely want to see your work! :)

Keep up the good work!

12 December 2006, 03:31 PM
I like the aesthetics of these refs.

12 December 2006, 04:44 PM
Hi, my name is Patrick Miller. I recently took Chris Palomino's Painter IX course. I'd like to continue. Do I have to convert my work to JPG to upload or can I leave in RIFF? Here is my lyout, using 2B pencil and pastel. Patrick

12 December 2006, 04:53 PM
YAY and WOOT ! this will be fun!!!:thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 04:54 PM
Hi everybody
some good stuff here ! Maybe I'll post a try in this challenge(if I have enough time).
Good luck for everybody !

12 December 2006, 05:34 PM
I just tried to upload my layout image using the technique I used for the CG online course (resizing and converting toJPG) but the image did not post. Do I have to use the image hosting source to participate? Patrick (snartist)

12 December 2006, 06:05 PM
I just tried to upload my layout image using the technique I used for the CG online course (resizing and converting toJPG) but the image did not post. Do I have to use the image hosting source to participate? Patrick (snartist)
Hi Patrick,

The CGWorkshops forums operate differently than the main, open forums of CGTalk - you need an image host to post to CGTalk's forums, this thread should help you out: :)

New to CGTalk? Learn how to post IMAGES here! (

12 December 2006, 06:20 PM That should work for you.

BTW post in JPEG, RIFF might not be supported.

12 December 2006, 08:34 PM
aggie93 - yeah, I hope so ^^

DigitalSol - Thanks! =D Ill do my best!

Elliepower - Looking very nice so far! You made me want to revisit my pencils ;)

Kuraudo - The face is very nice! What bothers you? =o

And well, here is my update for today. This is my first time using a LCD screen, I dont like the colors here >.< going to check how it looks like on my good old CRT when I get home~

I tried to fixed the face. How is it looking now?

12 December 2006, 09:10 PM
Sula - Your rendering is great. What medium are you using, acryllics? There is something about her eyes. It is like her right eye is a little too small. Other than that it is coming along great.

12 December 2006, 11:07 PM
Sulamoon: You are great. It could just be me, but I think she has a tan. Maybe a little lighter?

Ellipower: Great pencil work! I'll be interested to see how this one turns out.

I'm taking too much time on line work. Im studying Graves on blocking in masses right now. Maybe that will help in the future.. but for now, I'm building using sticks and thread. I will post a WIP tonight or tommorow. Keep up the good work everybody!

12 December 2006, 11:16 PM
Hi all! I chose n.8, by Ingres, mainly because I want to have a go at painting different types of beautiful materials and I am really liking that blue satin and lace. Here's what i could manage this evening, some pretty sad looking lines here, as I am desperate and using an aiptek pen with a trust tablet...a really awful combination I'd x-mas santa should be bringing me a wacom if I'm good :D Using a grid for proportions.

12 December 2006, 01:24 AM
Hi everyone,

Some lovely work here so far! Great to see all the WIP coming in. I've been working on the Ingres / blue dress piece (, here is where I've gotten so far - everything is just roughed in, and has lots of refining stages to go:

Gif of the process so far:

Keep up the great work everyone! :)

12 December 2006, 03:08 AM
Hi all :)

great to see the updates and excitement so far!

I'll come back and comment more soon, nice to see a few variations on the same painting (Ingres blue dress and Biondina, sure that there will be more soon..)

Uziel - did you plan on taking yours further? she does look a bit older, but it's a great start and the colours are looking good :)

Ellie - Nice work so far :)

Vivien82 - looking good, keep an eye on that "long" nose of hers ;)

Rebeccak - Smooooooth :)

All are going great - keep it up :)

Bit of an update; messy photo, so sorry about that :D I'm working on canvas in arcylics and really just started mapping it out so far:


cheers all and take care
a. :)

12 December 2006, 03:42 AM
Hi guys, I posted these pointers elsewhere, but thought someone might benefit from them here.

Please bear in mind that I'm not 'teaching' this Workshop, I'm here to learn as much or more than everyone else. Everyone is free to offer advice, tutorials, step by steps, and feedback - whatever you feel is useful and whatever you have to contribute here is very much encouraged! :)

One thing that can be enormously useful when digitally painting is zooming way out on both your reference image and your own image. This helps you to see the major areas of light and dark and the major shapes and forms. The way to paint is from large to small, and from dark to light.

Here's a screenshot to illustrate what I mean. When zoomed out this far, I can easily see my mistakes in comparison to the original and can easily correct them at a distance without worrying too much about the details. You want to be sure to get the biggest areas right first before detailing your image any further. I find that I work zoomed out for the majority of the time when I've first started an image, and alternately zoom out / in frequently for the duration of the rest of the painting.

Also, there are some key principles which I hope these images help to demonstrate:

When first learning digital painting, it can be tremendously useful to work in grayscale. You can put both your image and reference in grayscale mode. I recommend creating 4 swatches: white, light gray, mid gray, and black. Using your brush, hit the alt key and your brush will temporarily turn into the eyedropper tool, and you can select any color or value from your canvas / swatches by hovering over the canvas while holding down the alt key. Release the alt key, and your brush will return to the brush tool.

Hope this is useful! :)

12 December 2006, 05:17 AM
Aggie93: That sketch of yours is looking great aggie lets see how it goes :D

Ellie: Hi Ellie :), Im very happy for work with you again, I remember we start together in this OFDW at the 15th, even if Im not posting in here too much lately I really check out your thread very often:D

SulaMoon: Thats looking great Sula, cant wait to see how it come :)

Vivien82: That artline looks very cool, I really like it:), the proportions looks good at first sight for me, that grid is working, will look for your next update.

Becca: Well Becca you know you are pretty cool don't you?:D I really love all your monochromatic scales, and I really love this one all them looks more like a paint of a sculpture than a 2d paint, I will be looking for your updates for sure :)

Here is a little update, still very rought:), hope you like it

12 December 2006, 05:47 AM
Reb - Your so smart! I enjoy your little tutorials, eventhough you are not teaching in the OFDWs lol. You have your own unique style in your work. I like that! She is coming along just great.

Digital Sol - Thanks. I hope I do not disappoint ya! This is my first digital OFDW. I will point that out... just in case. Your's is coming along pretty speffy.

Frej - WOW! Traditional at that. WOW! Keep trucking. Hope the paints dries fast enough. That was always my problem with traditional and this OFDW. That is why I alway went with pencil, charcoal or something along that line. Watercolor was alright too!

Well, in between my dvd studies tonight. I promised I would work on Venus a little at a time. Well, here is break number one. Then it is falling asleep.... midnight already! Agh! Started Painting.

12 December 2006, 06:25 AM
I started freehand and found I was all over the place. I went with the grid method.
I haven't painted anything in so long I forgot how much fun this is.

12 December 2006, 06:46 AM
Anette / Frejasphereher neck seems too long...

don't forget about the background, if you wait to long to give an indication of what it will look like it will be hard to make the main subject fit in ;)

I'm not 'teaching' this Workshop

haha you're doomed to be a teacher girl as you taught us something again in the exact same post :D

thanks for that btw.

I promise I will post something up tonight!

Keep posting people the ball is rolling at a nice pace already
(luvin it!)

12 December 2006, 06:59 AM
So i did this thinking it was going to suck like my other stuff. But instead I just got into the groove. I am really happy with the way it turned out, all i did was try to be as acurate as possible to the lighting. C+C welcome and appriciated.


first hour(maybe)

12 December 2006, 11:41 AM
just can't miss this, need the practice real bad :scream:

12 December 2006, 12:38 PM
wow such progress here already! Becca thanks for the tips too :)

12 December 2006, 12:45 PM
Ransom, that looks great so far, you might want to save this version before you work on it further :) - one suggestion would be to gray the bkgrd so that your values might be judged against a more neutral midground. Keep up the good work. :)

Just a reminder to everyone to bookmark and / or subscribe to this thread, since the plug is likely to go off the front page soon. :)

To subscribe, left click "Thread Tools" at the top of the thread and click "Subscribe to this Thread".

Keep up the good work all - will try to post some comments later on today.

12 December 2006, 01:54 PM
don't forget about the background, if you wait to long to give an indication of what it will look like it will be hard to make the main subject fit in ;)

NR43 - I will put the background in. However, in the past it seems the background causes the edges of my brush strokes on the painting layer to create this whitish haze. I do not know what is causing that. Example in capture below:

You can see the edge along the torso here. Forget the layers on this capture for it is a jpg of the original riff file.

12 December 2006, 01:54 PM
Frejasphere - ansu - KaileighBlue - uziel - Fl3wk - OneDeadCat - SulaMoon:
Seems we all fell in love with Biondina. :) Very interesting to see how everybody has a different way to begin his painting.

Elliepower: Greetings from the Ruhrgebiet and thank you for your encouragement. :)

Here is my first update. I still did nothing on the cloths because I am still struggeling with the skin color. I guess it has too much yellow in it. I will try to handle that. Also I think, that her facial expression is a bit too severe. Hmpf.
C&C welcome.
Britta :)

12 December 2006, 02:09 PM
...everybody has a different way to begin his painting...
BG - You are right! Since my digital draw, and I heard this in traditional, suggestions to start out in a grey scale other than color has helped me get the blocking of the rendering in. I do not know, maybe you can use this to get you girls clothing down. As you can tell from all my work, I tend to leave my girls naked. There is a reason behind that. I am not good at cloth either. Good job anyhow!

12 December 2006, 02:16 PM
And I´m gonna find the time to join this one :D
Started with the "Odalisque", painted the background.

12 December 2006, 03:41 PM

i was going to say try turning on the "pick up underlaying color" checkbox in the layers dialogue... but obviously you've only got one layer, the canvas. unless you painted on a separate layer and then dropped it? in that case try it...

edit: although it's only an opinion, but I would try to paint on as few layers as needed... and when you've got too many layers to your likings (or the likings of your pc, using many layers eats memory)... drop em and start building up a stack again

12 December 2006, 03:48 PM
first time for me to do a master copy, but i've got time, so i'm in :)

here's my first step, lots oif things are wrong... oh well :wise:

12 December 2006, 03:48 PM
Screenshot with the grid, this is how i'm working....i have already put many hours of work into this...*blush*...when i should really be studying for exams.
frejasphere: i will be sure to watch out for the nose!thx
digitalsol: yours is already wonderful, i can't compete with you and rebecca :D I will be waiting especially for both of your pieces...
great work so far everyone !

12 December 2006, 03:54 PM
I could not post an image. I'll try again, stage 1. Patrick

12 December 2006, 06:02 PM
Hi all.
Next hour after work.

12 December 2006, 06:10 PM
vivien82: I started out the same way you are working. And I think you can do very well that way. But, I felt by confining myself to the grid and linework I was somehow missing the painting. I didn't know how else to work though. Now, seeing how digitalsol and rebeccak are working, I loosened up a bit. I will come back to the details in a bit. But now I feel like I am learning more about working the whole painting by relying on the grid less. I think it is coming with time. I'm enjoying the process.

aggie93: Bring in that background! :thumbsup: :)

everyone: I'm looking forward to this coming month as everyone is working.

12 December 2006, 06:54 PM
i started my first attempt today.this is the first time im doing something like this ,so please dont be too harsh on me with your crits as much as they are welcomed :D
everyone is workin way bettr then me :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 07:49 PM
My progress so far...

Choice 05:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Baronne James de Rothschild, née Betty von Rothschild
Oil on canvas, 1848

12 December 2006, 08:03 PM
started on A3 paper but I'm thinking of buying some bigger paper really..
this took me more than 2hrs and several attempts :eek:

had to do a lot of proportional corrections pff... not as easy as it looks this one...

shyamshriram good to see you here... of to a great start I see :)
killermachine nice... he's carrying a heavy load already it seems
xiannc wow really looking forward to see that one developing

12 December 2006, 08:23 PM
Ok, i think i'm finish with the line drawings. My first steps usually involves quick, opacitated( is that a word) think brush sketches,

Then lines drawings, then paint. However, this time i kinda got carried away with the face and started to paint it in grayscale.

The face doesn't look right for now. She looks too asian,...i kinda like it....and might keep it that way... Oh well, we'll see when i start painting it in color. The problem i have is that I'll have the tendency to make an artwork look like my own style, i know, it's bad. Then i make it look original in the final pass. I dunno, just something that i do....

BTW, shyamshriram your line drawings looks superb. It looks just like the original!

12 December 2006, 08:57 PM
kuraudo - Yours is looking so great. Do you have any problem with proportions when you get detailed in an isolated area then go to another?

Killermachine - I like the way you colored yours then erased around the edges. That is a different concept for me to input.

xiannc - I will add the background. I hope she turns out as nice as everyone elses.

12 December 2006, 09:07 PM
and another step :)
:edit: changed the colors

@kuraudo ( nice work :)

12 December 2006, 09:46 PM
Omg, such great works already! Would take me much more time to reach what some of you guys have done! Superb! I hope to be joining soon too. Another amazing, inspiring, astonishing, huge thread to come! Thank you, Rebecca :scream:

12 December 2006, 10:06 PM
aggie93: Thanks.Yeah, but i keep messin' with it till it looks right---pretty much what every artist do, right?

Neox: That eye is looking really realistic, keep it up.

12 December 2006, 10:29 PM
Choice 11:
Lambert-Sigisbert Adam (1700-1759)
Neptune Calming the Waves
Marble, 1737
Musée du Louvre, Paris

I'm new in this forum and I think is cool what you are doing here. So here I am :)
C&C are most welcomed.

12 December 2006, 10:32 PM
Ooh, this thread is turning out to be a real treat! Some lovely work. As much as I love Carravaggio, I had to go for the leighton piece, as it has a great sense of soft and sharp lines and definition in subtle colours. Two things I need to get a handle on. And here's first progress. 'Bout two hours work in painter. And wow... I had a eureka moment with that program... oils suddenly made sense!

Neox the eyes on that last post are luminous, absolutely lovely.
Shyamshriram again, the eyes have a lovely expression, even in the sketch, looking forward to colour!
vivienn you might want to double check the curve of the mouth on your sketch, if you look at it on the original, it actually curves upwards towards the nearest grid line, from what I can make out. But great start! When using the grid like that, do you use it as a device to put in 'landmarks', ie important parts, or do you take each square as an abstract piece and put it together bit by bit? I'm curious how people work, as I usually use the last method, but have tried the former for my own copy.
killermachine you might want to darken the point where the rock meets the guy's shoulder, as it's the same darkness as that shadow you have nicely marked out just above it, would probably help with the illusion of the rock actually resting on his shoulder. Any plans to really refine it? Go all out with some of the subtler shading? And xiannc snap! Good to see someone else tackling that painting. And you've a valid point about the grid, it's easy to get lost in details!
Aggie you might want to check the centre line of your venus, she looks a little like she's leaning to the right as her legs aren't quite under her as they are in the original. Looking forward to seeing more steps.

Great stuff everyone!

12 December 2006, 10:34 PM
I'm inn too! I need a lot of practice, as much as i can get, so this makes
a great excuse to do something.

I chose to go for # 14 (http://

This is the start i did today, but right now i gotto take a break because now im blind.
Im doing this freehand without color picking.
sorry about the pallette being all around but ive been back and forth trying to find the right colors, though i feel im still a bit off.
Something wrong with the anatomy too, but i hope i can see it better tomorrow.

I need as much advice as I can get, im still pretty new to this.

12 December 2006, 12:05 AM
So glad to see this back, I really enjoy these Master challenges.
Some excellent work here so far, very impressive.
This is with Painter IX, trying to keep it painterly (as per usual)......this is after about 2 hrs.

Still quite a lot of work still left to do!!:eek: :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 02:04 AM
Good stuff everyone - I appreciate that many are taking the time to comment here, that's such a critical part of these Workshops.

Just a small update from me today so far:

12 December 2006, 03:08 AM
Lovely work, both Mal and Rebecca... Mal, is that penfold in your icon! God I love Dangermouse! *grins*

And you know, Rebecca, that piece really reminds me of the finesse Da Vinci had in some of his lesser known works, something about the shoulders and the oval of the face is very remiscent of that style of painting. It's looking lovely.

12 December 2006, 03:39 AM
Thanks a lot Zeph - that means a lot coming from you. It's really great to have you participating in this Workshop. :)

I'm really sorry if I'm not able to reply to everyone who's commented here, but everyone's comments are appreciated. Thanks a lot. :)

Some updates:

12 December 2006, 03:44 AM
Great work everyone!!

Zephyri - woah - you got far with just those colours blocked in like that :)

Neox - the eyes are stunning!

Rebeccak - I'll never comprehend how on earth you make it so smooth :eek:

I'm IN! yay - The lady in the blue dress for me... Starting with my usual messy self...

I can safely say that there's no future for me in forging paintings :) My it's hard and her 'monalisa-esque' smile is going to kill me, I can tell... :) I think her hand is too huge as well...

12 December 2006, 03:56 AM
great work every one!

started one tonight


12 December 2006, 04:26 AM
Very impressive work Rebeccak. It looks like a 3D model.

I've started on coloring the face. I'm working with a lot of them trying to find a set I am comfy with.

12 December 2006, 08:01 AM
:twisted: i never said i was stopping's my new wip:wip:
awesome work ppl, @rebbecak "you r great ":bowdown:

12 December 2006, 09:35 AM
Neox - beatuiful eyes!
Mal-1 - so much emotion with so few brushstrokes. Impressive!
Becca - she almost look rendered in a 3D-program:) Looking forward to the colored/textured version.
Zeph - great colors! And lovely capture of the feeling in the original painting. Well done!

Everyone else! I haven´t had the time to be around for a while, and I am delighted to see so many new faces and excellent techniques and paintings!

Here´s my update. The face is to dull and non-vibrant, gonna try to fix that later, but now I´m on for the dress:)

12 December 2006, 12:25 PM
start out in a grey scale other than color has helped me get the blocking of the rendering in. I do not know, maybe you can use this to get you girls clothing down. As you can tell from all my work, I tend to leave my girls naked. There is a reason behind that. I am not good at cloth either. Good job anyhow!

Thanks for your kind advice aggie. :) Rebecca also mentioned to work in greyscale, but I am not sure if I understand. It is a way to get the values and contrasts right, but does it mean, that I should paint in black and white and then paint the colors over it? Or shall I take the greyscale image only as a reference to get my colors right? Sorry, for this stupid question, but this is only my 4th painted image and I never took painting lessons, so all this is new and kind of a mystery for me. And, well, my english is far away from being perfect. :shrug: Britta

12 December 2006, 12:32 PM
Mal, is that penfold in your icon! God I love Dangermouse! *grins*

Yep, that's him!!

Thanks Zeph and Sara D for those kind words!!:thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 01:10 PM
I'm working in Painter, I've reduced the size to 800x550, and converted to JPG. Patrick

12 December 2006, 01:25 PM

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12 December 2006, 01:34 PM
Great starts everyone !

Very inspiring !

I'm doing a 3D base mesh on XSI so I can sculpt in Zbrush the Algardi's Titan.
As a reference I tried to pose myself and photograph at the same stance with a heavy weight over the shoulders... (sure I will never show these photographs... ever... hahahha)...
And I found something bio-mechanical about it... (that pose is practically impossible anatomically speaking... am I wrong ?) the original model who posed for Algardi probably died or went forever to a bed (since they hadn't wheelchairs at that time) *lmao*
The only not so funny part about it is that I got a real pain on my back... rsrsrsrsrs
(I will survive... kids.. don't do this in home !!! )

Intervain - Are you doing something in 3D here ? * ~ curious face...*

Rebecca - great gray-scale teachings, always good to see it.

Keep going friends, I'll be around.


12 December 2006, 01:36 PM

Thanks! Don't forget that you can, if you want, make a pose request to either of our resident figure models: :)

Pose requests with figure model Ben Miller - request a pose here! - Nudity (

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12 December 2006, 01:40 PM
xiannc: yes you are right, maybe using the grid is limiting in some ways, but I am such a darn perfectionist that I couldn't bear not getting the drawing to look exactly like the original...I will try though, to do as some of you are, when I feel ready to do so! :D Yours is comiong along very nicely indeed!
shyamshiriram:that is the most beautiful line art I have ever seen...I get goosebumps when I think of what you will do next...
Zephyri:great to see you participating here, I'm sure you'll blow us all away with your skill. It already looks great. And thanks for the advice, I will definitely fix that. As for your question, they taught me the grid method when I was in art was a bit different with traditional art (ah the joys of ctrl+z!!:D). In short, I do a bit of both of what you said, sometimes for a single line all I need is to determine the starting and the ending points and I do the rest without checking the preciscion, freehand I guess you could say. And for other more intricate parts, or things like the face features, I use the other method...zoom way in so I have just a few squares in my viewport and try to get those lines placed properly. Then when I'm done, I zoom back out and check the drawing in it's whole. I hope I explained that ok?...*phew*

So here is some very minor progress with some base colours...

12 December 2006, 02:47 PM
Thanks Sam, I will check that out. I have been studying so much I am tired and I think that is reflecting in my art now. I was so beat last night I fell asleep early and didn't even work on it. I will try tonight.

12 December 2006, 04:30 PM
Djampa - OOOh you're doing 3d :) Well to be honest I am tempted to try one of the sculptures but I don't know if I can make both that and the painting + I wanted to start my own project as well... so many ideas so little time... I may do one, perhaps not to perfection but just try... I really want to do a finished painting though, for once :)

12 December 2006, 04:31 PM

I'm in too,
I really like all what you have done so far

This will be my first digital painting (didn't make a classic one too btw), i hope i will learn to use my wacom on that.

I'm using a grid for help, got some problems with the linequality, but that will get better when i get used to draw with a wacom.

12 December 2006, 05:24 PM
Thank you for the appriciation fellas :)


Good going EVERYONE !! :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 05:30 PM
Great starts everyone !
Next half hour after work. 3 layers back &black, white, and color for test rendering.
Not great progress.:sad: . It is not Caravadgio. After two days i continue this work.
Comments and critics welcome!

12 December 2006, 05:38 PM
a bit more progress:

12 December 2006, 05:56 PM
vivien82: I hear ya there. Just when you are ready. I'm not all the way there yet either, but more freedom is coming with practice in this digital world.

BGHart: Starting with the grayscale you can get your values and then if you are using photoshop, you can add your color by changing your brush mode to color instead of normal. This will keep the values the same as the grayscale you have already laid down. Rebeccak has a great tutorial on that somewhere. Maybe someone else can point you to it. For me, Ive got to get started with todays painting.

Keep it up! Will post more later.

12 December 2006, 06:10 PM
Another nice tutorial on first painting in greyscale and then coloring can be found here (

12 December 2006, 06:27 PM

I'm not really sure whether this is a proper way of copying masters...:shrug:

12 December 2006, 06:29 PM
I'm new to the Wacom and digital painting, so I've decided to go for the grayscale technique, to make things simpler since I've got absolutely no confidence where color is concerned. I've taken Rebecca's advice and have gobbed on values on a tiny picture, it's effective and alot of fun :). I'm tempted to do a drawing over it since I'm a &quot;lines&quot; person, but am going to challenge myself by limiting myself to painting.

@derseemann - It seems we're in the same boat. The arms are starting to look lovely, nice subtle shading. Are you using 100% opacity of different shades to do this or are you using the same color only with lesser opacity? I myself am a bit confused about this issue.

@DiM - Wow, your pace is inspiring. It's coming along nicely. The torso is looking good, you might want to raise the hip a bit on the right side. I'd love to see cute little apple cheeks on his face :love:.

@Shyamshriram - I love the lines tpgether with the loose brush strokes. Even at this stage the attitude is already there, you could almost stop now :).

And to everybody else, keep up the good work!

12 December 2006, 07:45 PM
Hi...I am pretty new to the forum and just found you guys. I'm not great at drawing people, but this sounds really interesting. Is it too late for me to try?

12 December 2006, 07:49 PM
@derseemann - It seems we're in the same boat. The arms are starting to look lovely, nice subtle shading. Are you using 100% opacity of different shades to do this or are you using the same color only with lesser opacity? I myself am a bit confused about this issue.

I use the same color with an opacity around 10%. I first build the shading up this way (with a dark grey), to blend it even more i use the basecolor (the light grey) also with 10 % and paint a bit over the edges to somooth them out.

a good tutorial about digital painting can be found here (

Hi...I am pretty new to the forum and just found you guys. I'm not great at drawing people, but this sounds really interesting. Is it too late for me to try?

I'd say its never to late. :)

12 December 2006, 08:06 PM
galenty: Jump on in. We've just been going a couple days now. Still plenty left to learn.

maritok: great start!:thumbsup: Working in grayscale isn't a cop-out. Many masters built up a value underpainting before they jumped in with color.

derseemann: Thanks for reminding me of that tutorial. It's a good one.

Christmas party tonight so hopefuly I will wake up tommorow in time to do some more.

12 December 2006, 10:15 PM update

12 December 2006, 11:02 PM
Well, sometimes I feel like I shouldn't even be here. These pieces of work is extravagent. I reworked my piece a little. Here is what I have done in the last hour.

Well, I am not sure! I may not finish this one. I still need practice. Good luck guys!

12 December 2006, 11:17 PM
aggie93: This is THE place for practice. I would say thats why most of us are here. I hope you continue to refine the peice you have started with. I read a great book called Coaching the Artist within and in it it talks about wanting to make something but hating the process of making it. It says.. "sometimes you will actually hate the process even as you fully understand there can be no other way around it. This disliking, this worrying, this fearing the worst, this plodding rather than soaring, all this is sometimes part of the process. You must accept this truth."
Keep it up!

Party time for me!!:buttrock:

12 December 2006, 11:19 PM
My progress from today. I'm still not sure how much I'm going to work out. The amount of detail in the clothing is insane.

So far I'm constantly switching between color and greyscale, using a grey saturation layer in PS and the luminosity blending mode.

12 December 2006, 11:35 PM
yay I have been waiting for a new one of these masters workshops to start... I am a newbie to the whole digital painting thing and a total newbie to the human form and face, this is a great opportunity for me to learn. A few rough sketches here, trying to get proportions correct and I know the face is way off so far :)

12 December 2006, 11:37 PM
I have decided to keep going

12 December 2006, 11:57 PM
Hi, everyone

These workshops are as inspiring as ever - fantastic work all round!

Joining in with my two painting choices (working from one to the other as the mood strikes :) ).

Working freehand in PS, straight painting. Lots to do, yet, but easier having begun.

12 December 2006, 12:33 AM
Hi everyone,

Fantastic to see so many entries here, and the positive attitude as well. :) I'm going to be pretty scarce in the next few days due to hanging my thesis show, but please continue to post your work and to post constructive comments and feedbacks to one another's pieces. I look forward to seeing everyone's work on Monday / Tuesday! :)



12 December 2006, 12:34 AM
Great work by everyone so far. I am just beginning mu tonal study in painter. Quick question when you finish your tonal study how do you colour it? Do you use the Overlay or Colour Layer or do you just paint on to it with low opacity?

12 December 2006, 12:56 AM
:bounce: I'm so enjoying the progress everyone's making...

eduart - great! Looks very good already

xiannc - I love your version already - you've got all the subtlety of the original pose!

Vulturius - I can totally get where you're coming from with the detail in the clothing... it is insane :D Great going on the face!

everyone - keep'em works coming...

here's my update - fixed the hand [well the size at least - the elbow seems odd now though :eek: - I've been repainting over and over again and can't seem to get it right!], also her face is a tad closer to the original I think though still she looks like she's watching something quite on the other side of the room ;) I must say I have no idea how I'll be able to do the lace on her dress [scary]

12 December 2006, 02:02 AM
Vulturius & Intervain - excellent work guys!!
YMS - Some nice things happening there, especially the colours in the second piece.
Everyone is doing remarkable work, not forgetting Rebecca, who not only put this together but is doing outstanding artwork and tutoring!!:thumbsup:

Another couple of hours spent on this, tweaking here and there, still a bit to do.

12 December 2006, 02:12 AM
I decided to start over. I am going back to my old style. Acryllics.

I think this one will work!

Here is the screen I am working with.

Can't stop. Nothing to do tonight. I'll keep editing this post until some else post below. I added some bacground to get some depth.

12 December 2006, 07:50 AM
I'm doing a 3D base mesh on XSI so I can sculpt in Zbrush the Algardi's Titan.
As a reference I tried to pose myself and photograph at the same stance with a heavy weight over the shoulders...

lol. I too, tried to do the pose but it seemed nearly impossible for me. I guess im not very bendy. :D

anyhoo, heres my attempt so far. sorta just bickering with little things. the arms look like blobs because i havent gotten to that part yet :P . Base mesh was built with zspheres (cause im lazy) so I'll probably have to paint the hands and feet in, or do some tricky zbrush voodoo to get my own premade geometry in there.
I hope i can fit in a painting too, but i dont have much time for myself anymore like i used to :(

12 December 2006, 10:05 AM
A little work done in the background, then taken in Photoshop and auto levels clicked.
Still some more work to be done.

12 December 2006, 11:17 AM
Mal-1 - thanks and wow - yours is really coming to life now! love the brushwork!

a small update - started working on her dress and gave her a necklace... guh the details are killing me...

and because Anandpg got me thinking what it would look like in colour here's a 5 minute quickie - just a layer on 'colour' mode...

12 December 2006, 11:22 AM
hi you all,
I'm many nice works are here.

@ Intervain
Thank you for your appreciation (great work).

nice work, great face
...but something is wrong with the hand...the distance between the end of the palm and the tips of the fingers is too long or something like that


very nice...I love your "Mutter Und Kinder" replica

keep going! kepp working/walking :)


12 December 2006, 12:35 PM
mitze- I don't work in painter ( don't have it) , but when I work in photoshop , every change I make gets a new layer until I am satisfied with it , then I will merge layers. I am not confident enough in myself to do a lot on one layer so use many, that way if I mess up I can make it go away :) Sometimes you will find the need to make some things more transparent than others and that is easily done with a new layer. hint - If you start using layers be sure to name them IE - layer 1 might be called tonal sketch, layer 2 might be called skin, layer 3 might be called dress, etc.....

12 December 2006, 12:35 PM
thats my wip after 30 minutes. just wanted to tell you guys, that i'm also participating here. :)

12 December 2006, 12:52 PM
Wow, every one is doing such awesome work:thumbsup:


12 December 2006, 12:54 PM
You can count me in as well. Beautiful references to work from!

Aggie: good improvement on the general pose since you started over. You should paint the feet as well, to capture that pose in a natural way, i think.
Vulturius: that painting is looking great so far. Her hand seems to be bent in some wrong way ( the thumb).
Yvonne: the eyes in Ingres' SP seem to be placed a bit wrong. The Mutter und Kinder is looking good - keep on working!
Intervain: great piece - amazing work on the clothes and all the other details.
Mal: great painting - interesting to see that painting done in a different style.
Claybub: great start; i really like to see how that turns out.

I did a few quick studies to warm up; more to come.

12 December 2006, 01:02 PM
very nice work everyone!

here's my next step

12 December 2006, 02:15 PM
i've worked on it for 2 hours now and this is how it looks at the moment.

12 December 2006, 03:53 PM
more work done.

I really enjoy this :)

12 December 2006, 04:33 PM
hi everyone
so much great stuff here - a little update from me is needed to decrease the artistic level a bit :D

12 December 2006, 05:43 PM
very nice work everyone!


12 December 2006, 06:09 PM
@shapemaster: wow, that looks like a great start. I think maybe his back is tilted a little more to the right. And his face might be a little wider, but its hard to tell without the full beard.

I dont like to use layers much, i dont know, i used to use layers a lot, but now its usually just foreground / background layer (+sketch) if any at all.
I think that if i make a mistake, I can repaint over it instead.
And it gives me more practice fixing my mistakes (which i make all the time) than disscarding it. But i dont really know if its a good thing to think that way.
edit: but i find it great to use layers if i just wanna test something out.

I been spending some time with the face now, but its really hard to get right. So im gonna have to ask for some advice on this one. (and it still looks much more "painted" than i want it to be)
edit: The head might just be too big?

12 December 2006, 06:37 PM
aggie93: Glad you decided to keep going with that one. Did I read correctly that you are using a trackball? If so. Wow! I couldn't do what you are doing!

Mal-1, FateBringer, and Neox: I love that you guys are doing the same peice but in a different way. They all look great and are coming along very well!

derseemann: Aren't those folds fun! :) Leighton is the master of some folds!

I will be working on mine for about an hour this afternoon and be posting it right before I go to work. Probably no time to comment then so I thought I would check up on things now.

Great going everybody!:thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 08:29 PM
molte- heh, this is where your layers come in, make a duplicate layer of your picture, lock the original and make it invisible, then do testing on the duplicate. Try a little smudge at a lower strength of about 54 to 65 or else try an airbrush at a very low opacity 10% or so to smooth things out if it is a little too painty looking for you. I am by no means an expert , but willing to share what I have found sometimes works for me. Also if you think the head is too big you can lasso it with soft edge, paste on new layer and resize it to test it out, then blend if it works. I am working in photoshop, not sure if that is the program you are working in , hope any of this helps a bit.

12 December 2006, 08:47 PM
Thanks. Another friend also told me to use softer brush to remove the painted look, so im gonna give it a go.
Im also using photoshop, and i did as you said scaleing the head down and up a bit, but didnt really get any wiser. I guess ill spot it easier tomorrow when my eyes are fresh again.

12 December 2006, 08:54 PM
@xiannc: hehe, folds are always fun, aren't they?

one more for today:

12 December 2006, 10:46 PM
Thanks for the painting link derseemann. I really got into doing the face with that great technique. Unfortunately I was so absorbed in painting that I forgot to save along the way and darn Photoshop crashed on me -- everything's gone :sad:
So off to a new start, nothing like getting alot of practice :)
This time I've just started blocking in more areas on the face, didn't have time to do any fine shading. I'll be travelling a week starting tomorrow, I'm going to fall so far behind...
Can't wait to see what you'all have done when I get back!! I'm sure it will be amazing.

12 December 2006, 10:47 PM
A more eleborated one from me...

Messed up the position of the eyes a bit so he got a somewhat different expression. Went a bit heavy on the mouth as well.

12 December 2006, 11:25 PM

Thanks! Don't forget that you can, if you want, make a pose request to either of our resident figure models: :)

Pose requests with figure model Ben Miller - request a pose here! - Nudity (

Pose requests with figure model Ron Eyre - request a pose here! - Nudity (

Wow... I didn't know that ! It's awesome to have it here.
Thanks !

Djampa - OOOh you're doing 3d :) Well to be honest I am tempted to try one of the sculptures but I don't know if I can make both that and the painting + I wanted to start my own project as well... so many ideas so little time... I may do one, perhaps not to perfection but just try... I really want to do a finished painting though, for once :)

Intervain - I know what you mean ;)
I will be concentrating efforts on this one for sure. Now having some trouble with the base mesh, it's being a great challenge.
I entered the EON contest too (2D), but I'm still reading the book *lol* It's really good, and starting a few sketches. To do such things with few time is just great to challenge ourselves too.
BTW your painting is looking great ! Keep it up !


12 December 2006, 12:02 AM
batte812 - wow, thank you very much :D

Neox - guh! IT"S ALIVE! love those eyes...

HuiTzu - now that's some ambitious project - are you intending to texture her as well? :) That'd be nice to see :thumbsup:

derseemann - you're going so well with this one - wish you could post your images a tad bigger, it's hard to see the detail you've managed there :D

Djampa - woah, I'll have to check out your Eon thread. I wanted to join in but just couldn't get my hands on the book and now it's a tad too late for 3d :/ Good luck with your entry!

Ok. another update - just a little work on the head [yessss...again] after some constructive criticism about the eyes and cheeks.. I flipped the image and got a shock for a sec so had to adjust the right side of the head quite a bit [thank goodness for liquify tools LOL] -- a very quick color overlay just to see what it'll look like in technicolour ;)

12 December 2006, 12:30 AM
great starts everyone!:applause:
well im in to...

12 December 2006, 02:16 AM
That was fun! :D

12 December 2006, 03:18 AM
this looks like a great learning experience...ok so here's my start:

...i have finals this week, but i'll try and work on this during my "spare" time.

12 December 2006, 04:25 AM
@Molte: thanks for the hint! The back was indeed a little bit deformed. maybe I wouldn't have noticed it, if you hadn't told me.

well here's the most recent wip:

12 December 2006, 07:43 AM
I'mpressed with the quality of work being put forth. Wow!
I'm very very slow. I have to finish this by Jan, 1!! I like how my drapery is coming along. The face is really giving me problems. I think it's the angle of the dangle, so they say.

12 December 2006, 08:07 AM
Wow, the great works continue. Good going.... :thumbsup:

You folk working on the women in the dresses - you're brave; so much detail.

Mal-1, thanks - hope I can do justice to the lighting and the original colours.

bartovan, when I get back to the Ingres painting, I'll fix what you pointed out about his eyes - thanks.

"Mutter Und Kinder" replica Hey, thanks, eduart!

Further work on the Kinder piece:

(She won't look as bored once I improve her eye! :) It's getting the better of me at the moment... )

12 December 2006, 08:09 AM
Hi everyone. I've seen some really great work so far in this thread.
This is pencil and then I used smudge, lighten and darken. I have had a problem with the angle of the ear. I lost patience when it came to the bow on the front of the bodice so I left it least for now.

12 December 2006, 08:37 AM
Hi Rebecca, hi all,

..great work here as usual :).... i hope I will find some time to join u guys in this 20-ofdw...

have fun :)


12 December 2006, 09:01 AM
Jez, looking great guys -

Got a little bit of time today after work, figured I'd start one up.
Thanks again for doing this Rebeccaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

I'm really crummy with exterior edges on the face it seems, got any 'fixes' anyone? Negative shapes I guess :(, did notice the break in the jaw is a good angle check.

So many shapes in faces... Aieee! Takes quite awhile.

Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Madame Marie Marcotte (Marcotte de Sainte-Marie), née Suzanne-Clarisse de Salvaing de Boissieu

12 December 2006, 12:40 PM
Hi all :)

Great progress so far everyone!

YMS: Like the luscious colours you are getting

Mal-1 nice painterly effect :thumbsup:

Intervain - going great! she really has that thoughtful look, almost serene

T-Scholes - good to see your wip. I don't do digital but generally in traditional painting the light source and the reflection from either clothing, hair or background (depending on where the light is coming from or what it's reflecting off, will help to determine the edges, giving that sense of volume - rather than seperate shapes placed together - hope that makes some sense...

Blue Pulse - looking good :) her hair covers more of her forhead which moves the line of her scull back (as in to the right..) a bit and softens her head shape..

Fatebringer - Great start, excited to see where you take this one

I like Djampa's comment about the impossible pose ;) when looking at it, it really does look very uncomfortable... especially if that is a real rock!

Been a busy weekend with markets and not enough time to work... will update progress hopefully tomorrow sometime :)

Cheers and take care
a. :)

12 December 2006, 12:59 PM
Started working with softbrush,
trying to be more accurate on the color and placement,
and cleaning up the edges as i go.

12 December 2006, 01:08 PM

so many entries and WIPs. I am overload, hehe. Have to look every day two times to not loose control.

Great work everywhere I look, very interesting to see the very different ways of starting and workflow.


fighting with my pencils...

12 December 2006, 01:24 PM
Thanks all for the nice words...update will follow shortly!!

T-Scholes - Great little wip demo.

Renderwhite - Nice style...looking forward to seeing more of this.

12 December 2006, 02:49 PM
Yay! I'm in too. I've been looking forward to doing one of these....
So far I've gotten the sketch done (using the grid) and now I'm going in to find the lights and darks, not too worried about the colors just yet.... I'm just looking to get an underpainting down for now

12 December 2006, 03:57 PM
awesome everyone!

YMS - that's just stunning! I was considering that image myself but thought I really need to try paint that cloth :) now I'm jelous LOL

ThePatches - I really like how you painted her hair...

Samanthie - wow you really captured her expression - the eye on the left's a tad dark but it's still early days :D

mutedOracle - I don't think you need learning experiences with that quality at the start :) Stunning head!

another update for me - got sick of the head [which still looks different than the original..grrrr...] and am still avoiding the arms and chest area so I jumped onto the skirt [well part of it for now, it's taking way longer than I imagined]. So 1/3 of the skirt painted and did the ribbons on the sleave [I'm particularly chuffed about them LOL hence the mention :scream:]

btw. does anybody here know how long it actually took Ingres to paint a picture? Out of sheer curiousity because he's like my idol now... It's easy to say I like this painting or not but once you try to do something quite like it you're humbled beyond measure...

12 December 2006, 04:45 PM
Thank you for comments Intervain. :)

Your image is stunning, great attention to all of the details. :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 05:48 PM
hi again
well I know the details don't match - but it was more fun that way (making up excuses again:))
still quite a lot left to do...

Intervain: I wish I could do details like that, awesome.
YMS: love them colors
ThePatches: just way ahead of me:)

great job everybody, this is really stimulating enviroment:)

12 December 2006, 05:51 PM
Intervain, very stunning! The dress is especially well painted, awesome detail. One of my favorites posted here. I started to like the technique you're using. Da Vinci was painting that way, if I'm not mistaken. Keep going, mate!

HuiTzu, 3d this time, eh? I see you and Claybub are the only ones now doing 3d here. Good start, looking forward to see it detailed!

Claybub, keep up with it, you have a great start. I like seeing master works done in 3d. Make it detailed! Nice torso :thumbsup:

Mal, you know how I like that painterly style :D Great job!

YMS, working on two at once? Awesome. Would love to do that myself, but no time for that. And you, you'll have to finish them both now, 'cause I'll be watching!

Shyamshriram, amazed by the linework, waiting for it to be painted more!

Eduart, nice start man, catching that light very well.

Rebecca, amazing contrast. And the whole painting, so smooth and beautiful.

All the others I didn't comment on - you're doing great work too! I just don't have the time to comment on every each one. I said this is gonna be an awesome thread, and now it really is, without any doubt!!

And I'll jump in with mine, working only on this part of the painting for now, blocking in the shapes.

12 December 2006, 06:15 PM
WOW! Stunning progress all around! :applause:

aggie93 - yiannc - derseemann: Thank you very much for your explanations about painting in greyscale and for the excellent links. It was a big help. :)

Here is my next update. First steps on the cloths and here and there a little bit of defining the face. Have a nice start into the next week.

12 December 2006, 11:53 PM

hi guys. great works so far!!

12 December 2006, 12:26 AM
Latest update still working on this...took it back to the original colour I like it better may adjust the contrast a little later, but not by too much.

Razz...thanks and nice work my friend!!

12 December 2006, 12:30 AM
razz - thanks very much!

HladekStepan - sure you can... I found that all you need is patience and eyes that can stand staring at something so long... good job on your figure [so now onto obsessive detailing :thumbsup:]

BGHart - beautiful, she's looking quite like the original.

Mal-1 - same goes for your image [I actually love the colour that you've given the bodice, so much more vibrant!]

well another update... still working on the dress and still avoiding the breast ribbons and the hands as well as the jewellery [the look of those pearls makes me sick LOL] I think I've started obsessing with the lace which is not good:eek:

deleted my colour layer and so I had to smack some blue on just to show what it's looking like...

12 December 2006, 12:52 AM
Thanks Magdalena...the detail in yours is outstanding...amazing work!!:bounce:

Noticed the eye on our right looked a bit off in mine...hopefully corrected here:

12 December 2006, 12:59 AM
sorry guys i skip the comments..(run to pick up my kids).\\

Intervain; you are the man. :eek: stunning image and your last update blue tone..

Mal-1; i like your stroke. can't wait to see to final. :D

razz; i always admire who can to their own storke and tone!

HladekStepan; love your wild(?) colour tone.. i don't know what can i say...but try to grey scale value study will be very helpful.. that's what i'm doing now... :p

Altheia: nice starts. show us more!

Elliepower: looking very good!. i wish i have some space and time to go back traditional real drawing....

Molte: head and torso part is almost same as picture!!. envy you... :applause:

all of you are giving me a inspiration and make me envy to all of you!! :scream:

i'll trying to find more time in here!
and always BIG thanks to becca!

12 December 2006, 01:12 AM
Some really great work! In this thread.

Here is my attempt.

12 December 2006, 01:52 AM
Frejasphere: Mm, thanks for the thoughts.
Mal-1: Thanks! Going to put the PSD up in my demo thread, link in signature if you're interested.

Ok, had some free time today to pick up where I left off last night. Not sure if I'm going to take this much further, clothing... not ready for that yet ;) haha. Want some more portrait practice, this one has ... too many faults.

12 December 2006, 03:04 AM
Thought I'd try a quick study of the Ingres piece, as the other was bogging me down a little.

Using a different digi brush (Oil Pastel) and brought the opacity levels right down, but this is causing a slight blurred will have to play around with the settings some more.

12 December 2006, 03:29 AM
awesome Mal-1 - you at least got her face right LOL Mine's way too serene :sad:

T-Scholes - that's really nice, I see nothing bad about it :)

sturmkim - cheers :)

12 December 2006, 04:16 AM
Magdalena thank you....but I think yours is spot on.

I tinkered with the brush settings and think I have found my 'Excalibre'...I think this is the brush I have been waiting for since getting Painter, and it was right under my nose.

So here is the revised Ingres study with my now favorite brush:
Keeping it loose, with the opacity down quite low, you can see my underdrawing if you look close.

12 December 2006, 04:43 AM
here's mine...NEPTUNE!!! No. 11

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12 December 2006, 05:57 AM
I think I'm going to abandon earlier leighton piece, and begin again with the new brush.

This brush is more transparent than the previous one and so has a softer feel/look to it, and I'm loving the results.
Here is the revised Leighton...WIP.

12 December 2006, 06:26 AM
The good beginning is half of success.
Great starts everyone !:)

Intervain -A smiling woman . I like the skirt that you drew ,very beautiful .It is very much-anticipated to develop in follow-up .

mutedOracle - The ones that drew are very good. Expect to see more.

T-Scholes - Beautiful. good demo.I like it.

claybub - I like the model that you did. Very beautiful.

Rebeccak - beautiful. make people appreciate with enthusiasm

kuraudo - Seem very good. There is a style very much .

Neox - beautiful eyes.nice work .

razz -Appreciate your painting .good start.

Yes,I doing 3d this time.This is a helpful exercise. Hope that I can finish smoothly .

12 December 2006, 09:41 AM
HladekStepan; love your wild(?) colour tone.. i don't know what can i say...but try to grey scale value study will be very helpful.. that's what i'm doing now... :p

hi sturmkin
well I've been partying some the night before :beer: (explains the tone I think)
so I felt like I wouldn't even use any grid or pay much attention to grayscale study...guess you're right, I'll start over. :D (or try tweaking it some first)

T-Scholes: I really like your demo and find it helpful.

12 December 2006, 10:35 AM
Some update from this morning

12 December 2006, 10:38 AM
Mal-1 ( Thanks for your comment, i will update as soo as i can.
your pieces are coming along really great, that brush you´re using it really seems nice.

Intervain ( man, excellent job on the cloth!

Altheia ( you´re doing that one to! good start

T-Scholes ( awesome values!

12 December 2006, 12:17 PM
ok, tried to do something about that wild color tone:banghead: but it looks all blurry and doesn't even come close to the original. starting from scratch after all.

12 December 2006, 12:33 PM
Started on one of the others as well, to have some variation on the canvas :)

12 December 2006, 01:26 PM
HuiTzu - thanks very much

Mal-1 - I have to say that brush is really making things look better :thumbsup: [will you share the secret ;)]

renderwhite - thanks very much!

SaraD - you're crazey woman :D [mind you I'm so sick of staring at just one image that I'm tempted to try another as well ;) - there I'm a hypocrite!]

12 December 2006, 01:41 PM
Intervain - Thanks for the compliment. I can give it right back to you. I would not dare to try my skills on an image with such detailed clothing. Bravo! :)

SaraD - the folds on your first image look already marvellous. :)

12 December 2006, 01:56 PM
Thanks Magdalena...some one @ Wet Canvas asked for the settings, so you can follow the link here to find out what I used:

12 December 2006, 02:34 PM
Yeah, call me crazy :)
Here´s an update on the face.

12 December 2006, 03:56 PM
I think I'm done with's doing my head in!!!:scream:
Still got to perfect the brush I think...thought I had it but I want it a little crisper!!
Anyway...this is were I'm calling this one done!!

12 December 2006, 05:03 PM
nooo.. not so quickly! Well I'm counting on you doing another one then ;)

12 December 2006, 07:02 PM
allright I started over again, but can't take it any further than this (lack of time); :sad:
still it came out better than previous try; wish I started earlier...;

12 December 2006, 10:38 PM
Dec 11, 2006

Wasn't going to enter this. Had some other things happening. But saw all the great work going on in here, and couldn't resist.
Using Painter 9

Take Care

12 December 2006, 12:02 AM
such a beautiful interpretations of masterpieces, also Rebecca's energy and enthusiasm. Maybe if I hang around for a while some of that might rub on me too.

My approach is simple; start very loose, let hands and eyes do the work rather than methodically registering the subjects features, get tighter while trying to bracket the highs and lows of value/luminance for smaller and smaller regions. if that makes sense :) then glaze over with color. If I can take it that far...

and the current state.

12 December 2006, 12:32 AM
Oh wow, everyone's work is so wonderful!

SaraD- I really love your start on the swan piece, I want to see more!!!

Intervain- Really fabulous, I love how you used a nice combo of sharp edges and more painterly edges. And so quickly too!

T-Scholes- Nice! I really enjoyed watching your process. I don't have the ref here, but the face angles look ok to me, though I'm not sure how closely they match the ref.

Mal-1- I really love your style here, it makes me want to try and relearn all the crazy painter brushes. They are a little scary to me at the moment.

Everyone's pieces are looking really fantastic, I wish I had time for more comments!

I got a little more work done, a little short on time at the moment but I think I'm ready to move in on the cloth. I started on the eyes and then realized it was a big mistake this early on so they look silly, ah well.

12 December 2006, 12:43 AM
Everyone, good progress - keep it up! Such a feast for the senses looking through this thread...

Good to have some company with the Ingres portrait, Glenn! Love the way you gradually “clear the window” and we see more and more… :)

Intervain and Sarah –yes, it helps to have a second image to work with when you just can’t face working on the first one for the moment!

And, Intervain, you can still tackle the Kinder piece as your second! I wanted to paint the ones in those fabulous dresses, but knew the details would kill me.

It’s in print, now – Razz is watching, so I have two to finish – gulp! :)

Well done, Mal-1, on finishing, despite having to start over – she’s a painterly beauty. And looks like you’re on your way with your second – and all those details…

A bit more work done:

12 December 2006, 03:43 AM
Altheia - thank you so much for noticing that :) I am actually so proud of myself to have figured out how to make those hard and soft brushes work to my advantage :bounce: - especially with cloth... hard brush really makes a difference! Oh and not so quickly, not so quickly - I've been sitting over this image basically the entire weekend LOL - which is kinda sick, looking back...

YMS - yeah I think i might try something other than this Ingres chap :) I love how sumptuous your piece feels... Love the colours!

ok, well today's update is not drasticly visible :)

I repainted the head piece completely, also did some detailing in the hair, though the original's not that detailed but I love doing hair :scream: and got carried away... Repainted some of the lacey bits on the chest/neckline, added the ring on her finger and refined the hand a bit + lightened the entire background ... it took many hours though you can hardly see it :)

12 December 2006, 04:00 AM
RebeccaK~ Thanks for starting this thread. This has been a lot of fun thus far. I honestly didn't know the talent ran so deep here.

SulaMoon~ Those eyes are stunning!

SaraD~ I really like your take on "Odalisque". Your painting style is so soft and carefully painted.

Intervain~ Your handling of the fabric is amazing. Your update on the face looks good.

YMS~ Those colors are stunning

Samanthie~ I love your work. That is absolutely framable.

I'm still slow but spending a few minutes here and there.

12 December 2006, 04:39 AM
Wow, so many good work here! :applause:
It was the second night on mine.. forgot to save some images at start to have a step by step :D Im not good to remember to do it, should have kind of an alarm set each 30 min or something to remember me to make printscreens...

I had a hard time at start to fit the proportions, so finally decided to do it with a grid... and go crazy to fit it the most, but it was worth it, cause I am happy with it now :)

Hope to have some time tomorrow and do the clothing.

Have to upload my image on cgtalk, will have access only tomorrow on an ftp... :sad:

12 December 2006, 10:11 AM
here is i final entry for this ofwd..i'l try somethin lil more difficult next time :scream: and for rest:thumbsup: blupulse its comin up really cool keep it up

12 December 2006, 10:27 AM
Yvonne - Looking real good, those colours are great and you are capturing the light very nicely.

Magdalena - I can't get over the detailing in this, it just blows my mind...have you beaten that 3 hr hurdle ??

Glen - this OFDW wouldn't be the same without your presence, looking forward to seeing this develop.
Great work everyone!! Deciding if I can really do the ingres with all that detailing:eek: , doing a Zorn at the moment in my anatomy thread, so will see how that plays out. Thanks to everyone who has commented on my work, I really appreciate it.:thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 01:35 PM
BluePulse - thanks :) the face still drives me insane - it's so much different than the original...

Mal-1 - are you kidding me?! :scream: yeah I'm a master of patience now [not]! Thanks a lot, still tons of details left to manage...

12 December 2006, 02:09 PM
Sorry guys, I am going to have to drop out of this one. I so desperately wanted another OFDW and now I am too busy at work to continue. I will just keep monitoring this until I can find time.

Great job everyone.

Spirit - You are using Painter. What is your brush?

Blue - Yours is looking refined. Keep going!

Intervain - I do not see what you are talking about. Her face looks fine to me.

Gulkin - I always like to see the step by step procedure like that. Thanks!

12 December 2006, 02:40 PM
Intervain - The right side of the mouth is turned up more and the right side of her chin is more rounded. I think you may have had her spend too much time in the gym and she isn't pleased. :) The rest looks perfect to me.

12 December 2006, 03:54 PM
aggie93 :) cheers! I can though ;)

BluePulse - that's it precisely...I'll get on it as soon as I get home today I think :D thanks!

12 December 2006, 04:18 PM
Amazing stuff guys! :)

A quick update from me - I'll be resizing a lot of stuff and putting off the jewelry for as long as I can :D:

EDIT: Update:

12 December 2006, 04:59 PM
congrats to everyone, there is some amazing stuff here

here's mine: the scanner didnt do it any favours (

12 December 2006, 05:04 PM
awesome Rebeccak! I love the constrasts:) - and word to putting off jewellery LOL I still haven't done the damn pearls ;)

Opelfruits - nice start... I think It's looking really well and once you touch it up in photoshop it will be stunning!

12 December 2006, 10:50 PM
Dec 12, 2006

A little more along on this one today, and a whole lot left to do, but getting there SLOWLY BUT SURELY...:scream: :)
THANKS...Mal- 1.......HEY....SLOW DOWN...:scream:
THANKS ..Aggie...thats just a tinting oil brush i'm using...found in the tinting section of painter # 9
Doing this freehand,on one layer...eyballing the colors and everything else as I go along.
Tomarrow is another day...:)

12 December 2006, 11:00 PM
Rebecca this is amazing, it looks 3 dimensional.

Glenn...I think this next piece may slow me down a tad....Lets see if I can take this through to the end!!

Ok Drawing and first lot of colour blocked in....not looking forward to the detail...I hope to try and get away with a little impressionism. :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 11:40 PM
Hello all! =D
Finally had time to work a bit more on my piece.

Sorry about not having time to comment back to everyone who gave me tips! But the tips were vey helpful! I tried to fix the anatomy and the color on the skin, now I think it looks better =)

Also, I remember someone asking if this was acrylics? Nah! Its good ol'photoshop! =D But the question made me happy. Im self taugh, and I have little to no practice with real brushes =/ If I have money to spare, someday, ill learn how to paint traditionaly too!

So here it is.

Rebecca, awesome values! =o Ill take my times and study your pics a bit, cause they are amazing!

Mal-1, whoa! Dont you ever sleep? ;)

Intervain, that already looks impressive. Cant wait to see it finished!

YMS, what a great courage to pic such complex piece ;) Its turning out great!

Molte, great work!

Everyone, keep up the great work! This thread grows so quickly its hard to keep updated hehe

12 December 2006, 11:51 PM
Mal-1, whoa! Dont you ever sleep? ;)

Very rarely....I can't remember who said it, but someone said " I'll sleep when I'm dead " :buttrock:But having finished work for christmas I find myself with a little time on my hands, and thanks to internet shopping, don't have to join the hoards in the city to find presents, therefore my little Wacom is getting a lot of attention.:thumbsup:
Nice work on yours by the way Sula....definate improvement made since last post...nice job!

Building things up, slowly coming together.

12 December 2006, 11:58 PM
Slowly but surely indeed! Great job Mal-1... I like the idea of giving it the impressionistic feel, too!

... somehow a name Bon Jovi comes into mind when reading that quotations... *hums a tune*

12 December 2006, 12:53 AM
Now you mention it does have a JBJ (jon Bon Jovi) ring to it....I was hoping for Oscar Wilde, Ah well!!

Pulling the face together, and blending:

I think I'll call it a night!!

12 December 2006, 02:30 AM
too tired to do much so I just mucked around with the face and the hand again and started laying down my base colour layer, for a change [I'm really tired of black and white and still the chair and the pearls (!) are untouched *sigh*]

anyway like I've said, not much but still something so I can say I am working LOL

12 December 2006, 02:39 AM
Hi all :)

Great work guys and girls :thumbsup:

Mal-1 - watch you fly! With your momentum I think they're getting better and better :)

Intervain - Serene and gym-junkie all in one..? :D I do think she is looking great, that lace and the detail is amazing!

Sulamoon - nice work :) thing with Biondina seems to be keeping her looking young, maybe because she has a serious face, she'll tend to look older - I'm guessing she's about 9-10 but could be way off. Giving her slightly fleshier lips maybe? I like the softness you have got in her skin.

Glenn - Nice start :) watch the position of his left eye (looking at), seems a bit too far out to me..

Opelfruits - Looks like a lovely start - were you going to keep going traditionally? or work digitally from here on? Looking forward to updates :)

Rebeccak - She's definitely coming on as a Rebeccak version of Ingres :) Nice work

A little update from me; been painting a bit inbetween other work - still heaps to go
but have more or less got the proportions where I want them and am starting on details and
highlighting and detailing.

Acrylic on canvas (60x42cm)

cheers all and take care
a. :)

12 December 2006, 04:30 AM
update.. i need a courage to upload mine.. all work here is super! except mine... :rolleyes:
I can not find a word to comment to you guys. :)

but getting there SLOWLY BUT SURELY... !!!

12 December 2006, 04:39 AM
sturmkin- looks great :)

a small update:


12 December 2006, 04:51 AM
Everybodys work is amazing!

Fisrt thank you Rebeccak for taking care of this workshop, Ive found a lot of motivation to do this one, very interesting to see how people work, step by step and all that stuff.. and thanks to all the people who share there work too!

Mal-1 : Wow, I really like how the face come out in your last post. You work fast... :D

Intervain: So many details in yours :eek: Cant wait to see it finish! Hey btw do you love working at ubisoft cinematic... I worked there for almost 3 year, just quit 3 months ago.

Rebeccak: Its pretty cool the way her face looks kinda 3d! Love the volumes.

Frejasphere: nice to see a reel painting on canvas, I think she look pretty nice.

Would like to comment all of you, but im falling asleep in front of my computer now.. better go sleep... and have some energy to continue tomorrow! (unfortunatly im not like you Mal-1 :sad:... :scream:
Made another 3 step images from tonights work. Only worked on the clothing. Tried a fast color pass, but realized I need to clean those black lines everywhere, it makes no sense... its too hard, especially in the face.

12 December 2006, 05:00 AM
Sturm - You haven't seen mine. Will post an update later. Do not get discouraged. I did already, but after leaving it sit for a day I got it back. Try another!

Here is my update.

Mr. Antisocial
12 December 2006, 05:10 AM
Lots of great work in here!

I guess I'll throw mine in for the heck of it. I haven't quite found my technique in photoshop yet. Didn't really capture a likeness to the original either. Ah well...

Feel free to tear it apart. :p

12 December 2006, 05:33 AM
WOW...i'm working at a real snail's pace here relative to everyone.

Opelfruits: Welcome mate! :thumbsup: great start

SpiritDreamer: Looking sweet. Don't have any crits to offer ... yet

SulaMoon: It looks much better, i think your really close to the correct skin tones now. And the anatomy is really close. I think maybe the left corner of her mouth is a little to far out, but otherwise its looking amazing!

Mal-1: I'm amazed at how fast your working (and accurately). Great work!

Intervain: no crits! just awe :drool: I've never painted an image that way before (grayscale first and then color it) but i notice a lot of people are doing it that way...i guess i should try it next time. How do you "layer" the color do you just multiply it?

Frejasphere: traditional art that's so cool. And arcryllics at that, i've never been able to do arcryllics, it dries too fast...there's no time experiment. Anyway, looks like you've got it down though. looks AWESOME!

Strumkim: looking great. her lips seem a little more pronounced, maybe you could smudge them back a little before you start detailing. just a suggestion. great work so far!

FateBringer: You've really managed to capture that same warm, serene color scheme of the original. the highs on her face seem a little too pronounced i think, especially around her mouth. but you're still working so i bet that'l change soon. Great work mate.

here's a really minor update on mine - basically just started on the torso/arm:

12 December 2006, 06:48 AM
really fantastic work everyone!
heres my progress on the head so far. I always seem to make my heads too tall, which is rather annoying. I think I can fix some mistakes quite easily once its ready for a paintover though :shrug:

12 December 2006, 07:30 AM
Hi all. I've been hanging out in the Beginner's Lounge for a little, and I thought I'd give this challenge a shot. This is my first digital painting effort (PS with a wacom) and I'm having a lot of fun with it. I'd love any critique.

And I have one or two question about painting in Pshop:
1) in the brushes toolbar, what does "Flow" do? I try changing the "flow" settings but it doesn't seem to effect anything.
2) when I try to make certain strokes with the wacom, the stroke onscreen seems to either lag behind by a second or choke up completely for a couple of seconds. And I can't get a smooth curve to save myself. The wacom always turns a curve into an angle. I have looked at my Wacom System Prefs a number of times and fiddles with stuff, but to no avail. Am I missing something really obvious?

Anyways, I started hacking away at 14 - the Algardi Titan sculpture, and here is my WIP... Cheers and thanks all for the inspiration....

12 December 2006, 08:11 AM
Hey A!! - Thanks!! & Nice to see some traditional paint in here...looking great
Calan - Thanks...and fantastic work on yours
Muted - same goes for you, outstanding!!

Great work everyone!!

12 December 2006, 08:33 AM
Intervain - thanks, yours is looking amazing, especially the cloth.

Frejasphere - im going to keep working traditionally, im trying to get back into drawing after having done nothing for many many many many years, so i dont want to lose sight and end up back at the computer. - Nice painting :)

calan - wow!

mutedOracle - thanks, yours is looking great

12 December 2006, 09:15 AM
Many, many good works going on here.

Here's my copy after 001:

Work in progress can be seen at my signature below. (

12 December 2006, 10:30 AM
Thanks everyone!

calan - thanks :) and I love yours - quite detailed as well I might mention... Oh I'm loving it :D

mutedOracle - thank you! Yours is just amazing! So 3d looking :bounce:

holdensc - great start! from what you're saying I assume you do have your drivers installed? - since you're saying you have played around with the Wacom settings... Have you tried playing around with the brush settings in Photoshop? I honestly am unable to say why it's lagging behind :( [maybe a graphics card?! or memory capacity?! if not the brush..] Sorry, not much help, was I?! :)

so I need a springboard - something different.. and so I went for *drumroll* another Ingres LOL I'm curious if I can make that one to the same level as the other one or if I'll fail miserably :) Should be a fun experiment! Anyway here's a messy start to lay down the proportions - those seem right but the angle of the head's off... will correct it later...

12 December 2006, 10:43 AM
Thanks, Intervain. I am slowly coming to the realisation that I may need a memory upgrade, or (gasp) a better video card. I've always been frustrated by my wacom's performance, but I was just hoping there was some hidden settings or some photoshop trickery I didn't know about.

By the way, having just started my very first real digital painting I am in awe of so much of the work here. Yours is beautiful. The material textures, the skin, beautiful. Could I ask, just as a way of setting a benchmark, how many hours you've spent on this?

12 December 2006, 10:55 AM
Great work in here! So many vivid paintings. WOW.

Went back to my swan-lady this morning:)

12 December 2006, 11:39 AM
Magdalena - you seem as big a sucker for punishment as me!! :eek:

Look forward to seeing this develop.:thumbsup:

SaraD - nice work so far, the detail in the headress is great.

Vincent - Nice work!! I think you have got the likeness, just watch the side of the nose, it looks a little flat, give it a slight tonal change to give it a more 3D effect.