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12 December 2006, 01:10 PM
holdensc - thanks very much, I appreciate it! I'm rather a beginner myself as everyone here will testify... Oh I did not count the hours, I have to admit, but roughly I'd say at least 70? [don't know, a lot though! ]

Mal-1 - LOL I think you might be right! I'm a suicidal maniac ;) Hey then again no experimentation, no success!

12 December 2006, 01:38 PM
Intervain - Well, it was certainly 70 hours well-spent, I can say that. I keep going back to look at it.

Here's where I'm at at about 5 hours. I am having so much fun with this. I don't want to stop, but it's late in the antipodes...

Please, I welcome critiques from all and sundry. Is his right leg too long? Or his right arm too small?

12 December 2006, 01:53 PM
I hope im nt too late 2 gt started??? im trying to sketch the neptune statue.. im jus a student and hope this isn't tht bad :rolleyes: specially after seeing such gr8 work :eek: ..

Well this is jus a rough outline.. cudnt really manage to do much 2day.. will be adding in more detail and shading as i go on forward..

I would be very gr8ful if all you seniors could drop in some suggestions :)


12 December 2006, 01:58 PM
Hey then again no experimentation, no success!

Now that's not JBJ is it??? Doesn't sound like his lyrics.:D

Ok progression so the ol blender out and did the backgound and dress a once over then went in with it with a little more prcision on the face. Face is about how I want it, so now onto that dress.....cue scary music!! Den..den..Darrrhhh!!

12 December 2006, 02:43 PM
Holdensc - Yes I think his right leg is too long, if you look in the picture the top of the leg is not so far from the circle base. I think the waist on yours is a bit too wide. But its a pretty good start.

Intervain - hehe another tuff one! Sure you will succeed in this one too :thumbsup:

MutedOracle - It works very nicely! I feel i can touch it :scream:

Claybub - nice start! good work on the hair.

SaraD - Love the detail on her clothes and head piece. Want to see the body now! :)

Mr.Antisocial - Hope its ok for you to receive comments, even if your antisocial ;) Thats a good start, maybe the size of her eyes are too different, I think its her right one that is too small.

Keep up the good work everybody!

(sorry for my bad english)

12 December 2006, 04:30 PM
:eek: Everyone is working like a machine except me :sad:


have to fasten my seatbelt :D

My little progress...

big version (if anyone interested)

p.s. sorry but i dont have time to post comments about other artists works..:( need to finish lots of unfinished stuff...

12 December 2006, 08:48 PM
Hi all :)

Wow this thread flies fast!! and great posts too! I really want to comment, but will come back later and do so... thanks all for comments:wavey:

small update on painting... still got a lot of detail and highlights to do :)
acrylic on canvas

cheers all and take care
a. :)

12 December 2006, 10:16 PM
DEC 13, 2006

Taking a break today Thought I would let Mr. Ingres work on my painting for awhile. Maybe by tomorrow he will have all of the mistakes corrected. HOPEFULLY. LOL :scream:
Take care

OFRW 020

12 December 2006, 10:24 PM
good one Glen :thumbsup: D'you reckon he's got room for 2 more in his schedule?! *puppy eyes*

12 December 2006, 12:00 AM
Quick update from me - Glenn, great to see you painting again! :)

12 December 2006, 12:44 AM
Rebeccak - awesome! I love the hand!

well it's definitely good to have another painting to jump onto when you're tired of the first one :) I'll finish it no worries but today it's the other one continued... just the face and some more smudges :) Still quite messy...

12 December 2006, 03:39 AM
just to let u all know, i'm failing my exams because i'm spending too much time on this...

anyway, to the commenting:

shyamshriram: comming along nicely.

Rebeccak: brilliant, i love the style. and i agree with intervain her hand is amazing.

Intervain: pulling a leonardo i see. jumping from one to the next. its amazing how fast you work. anyway the latest is already looking great.

Here's mine did a little more work on the torso/arms:

now i should really be getting back to studying. my last exam tomorrow ... morality and justice :arghghg: :banghead:

12 December 2006, 03:51 AM
Wow mutedOracle... :eek: .. your gradients are so soft and nice! Do you use a normal brush, any tips to share?

Good luck for your exam, seems you dont really like that class, but at least its the last one! :)

12 December 2006, 04:00 AM
Looks great Spirit. I am with Reb, good to see you back painting.

Reb - Your style is one of a kind. I like it. Now I will know when I see your artwork in public I can say I know that artist. I just need to meet you now.

Mute - You do have a great fast-paced way with your work. It is looking great. Good luck with your exams.

Well, here is my update for tonight.
Just a little more refinement at a time. Hopefully I will get there.

12 December 2006, 04:19 AM
Hey mutedoracle... The neptune is comin along beautifully.. really awsum.. n btw best of luck for ur xam :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 04:55 AM
wow muted! amazing subtlety...

here's my take on titan... im not as good as you guys but might as well post my wip here (

12 December 2006, 05:31 AM
Ok.. so heres my last update... maybe the last for a couple of days, having christmas party and a job to be done soon. Im a bit sad, cause im really enjoying doing this! Hope I will have some time to come back on it before christmas.

Detail on the clothes again! Changing some values.. and did a little on the background.

12 December 2006, 05:47 AM
Just looking through all of the pages here. You are all doing such lovely work!

Hi Glenn! Very funny! He is doing a great job!

Blue Pulse, thank you! Your image looks great and I love the detail on the scarf, very well done. Hope to see an update.

Hi Rebecca, your b&w images make me jealous! Beautiful fabric!

Muted oracle..what can I say..Fantastic work!

Here is an update.

This version is a few steps before the finished version but I like it better than the 'nearly' finished one somehow, so I'm posting both.:) Thanks for looking.

12 December 2006, 05:49 AM
So many wonderful pieces here... I feel guilty having abandoned mine.
I'll restart it on the weekend on A2 paper...

Keep rocking this place y'all!

12 December 2006, 08:29 AM
Intervain Wow, your piece in post #234 looks SSoooo good! I can feel the lace and satin. The hand is niiiiicely rendered. Please keep going and finish it.
mutedOracle Absolutley wonderful render and form. Impressive.
vincent1 Nice start on the face. Her eyes have definate life to them.
SpiritDreamer Love your handling of Painter.
Rebbeca You have such clean control of the digibrush. You're inspiring me to work harder.
Have more to say for other folks but will do so when I post my own master copy.
Can't wait to see everyone's final.

12 December 2006, 12:04 PM

Intervain....He says that even with those beautiful puppy eyes, you will still have to wait your turn in line,...perfection can't be rushed or cohersed...:) ...ME FIRST...LOL:scream:

Rebecca..THANKS....Another Rebecca in the works I see....GREAT STYLE..:)

Aggie...THANKS...LOOKS LIKE you are getting a handle on digital technique...NICE..:thumbsup:

Aztec FireFlower...THANKS....Don't wait too long to blow us all away with your fantastic work now...:eek: ...:scream: ....CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT...:)

HEY Samanthie...I much prefer the top one myself...has the focus around the eyes that are so key in that face...sometimes less can be more....In that one, she has a mystical lighting about her, that really adds to that angelic look...FANTASTIC JOB THERE...REALLY EVOKES
A NICE MOOD , FEELING,AND.. SPIRIT....:applause: :thumbsup:


12 December 2006, 12:12 PM
Catherine (Calan) & Muted...extraordinary tonal work...nice work guys.

Keep going Anette...I'm enjoying the development!!

Shyam & Magdalena...really enjoying watching these emerge.

I needed a little break so not a lot of work done, but I promise a progress shot before the end of the day.:thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 03:37 PM
Ok here's the update:
Ok on to the mind bending bit....this dress is driving me a bit nuts!!
You'll notice a slow down on progression from now on, as this will take a lot of time me thinks!!

12 December 2006, 04:06 PM
Hi all
there are some crazy works in here!
Intervain awesome work dude! :eek:
mutedOracle i really love your progress so far :)
Rebbeccak no need to say your piece is great as always but i'm saying it anyway :thumbsup:

so here goes mine ( (

about 10 hours in photoshop
this is my first masterpainting so i've learned a LOT with this workshop thing :D

12 December 2006, 04:41 PM
Glen - Oh bollocks - I'll have to talk to him in person ;)

Mark - I hate you for making her face look so good ;) AWESOME, it's great to see you go so far too :thumbsup:

P.J. - thank you very much - and nice progress and cool to see it mirrored for a change :D
Samanthie - she's like a fairy... love the eyes!

12 December 2006, 05:31 PM
Thank you Mal-1 , yours coming pretty nice!

P.J. Nice work. Love the close up. Its your first one? ... wow

12 December 2006, 06:41 PM
Thanks Glenn, I agree.:)

Thank you Intervain, and I'm looking forward to seeing an update on your latest. Looks great so far.

Mal-1, you have captured her likeness very well.

P.J. Nice work and treatment on the eyes.

12 December 2006, 07:11 PM

so many people... mind-overload-alarm. Need some time to study this thread, weekend is calling, hehe. But a short overview shows: everywhere I look I see great jobs in very different styles.


Sorry for the bad quality.

12 December 2006, 08:01 PM
Ellie - beautiful! I so envy people who can draw and paint in traditional media :bowdown:
Glen - a stunner as usual :thumbsup:
Mal - gonna start on the dress myself right now:) Maybe I´ll just skip it and enjoy yours instead. The danger of keeping many paintings going at the same time is that it is soooo easy to just start a new one when some part of an existing on feels overwhelming :scream:

Here´s some update on the clothing of my swan-lady (I´ve forgotten the name of the painting :blush: )

12 December 2006, 08:02 PM
Ellie - Looks great. I should go back to tradition, it is far better than my digital. One thing I would like to comment on yours even though you pointed out your tiredness of this. Her feet look a little flat, but that may be due to the angle of the picture.

12 December 2006, 08:37 PM
Whaaa, so many great pieces here already!! :scream:

SaraD, I find it interesting, how you detail up one area of the painting and the move to another. I would surely get lost this way and out of proportions, but you seem to do an awesome job like this. The feather look especially nice :)

Mal, although you've changed the brush you're using, your paintings still have a wonderfull painterly feel to them. Keep with it!

Shyamshriram, go go go!! :scream:

SpiritDreamer, that's cheating! :D

MutedOracle, again interesting way of working, to me at least. Like SaraD. Has a great sence of 3d now as the other areas are flat, don't loose it.

Rebecca, aaand this one has the Rebecca feel to it :D Playing with chiaroscuro, mmm??

Intervain, damn you doing another great master study!! Time well spent :thumbsup:

Claybub, great! Awesome start there, don't stop. I'm excited seeing 3d studies here.

Little more work on mine, not much. I accidently ruined my pic, so had to start working from the one I posted here before, lost all the other figure block-ins. And today when working on this there was a blackout and of course I didn't save too often, so lost some work and had to redo it. And I don't have much time to work on it!! Baaargh!! Disasters follow me when doing this study as you see.

12 December 2006, 08:55 PM
Razz - it´s the opposite:)
I have a sketch underneath (done with quite small grid - the booring and tiresome part) and the basic colors smeared on. But if I try to do all parts at the same time I loose track :) So I concentrate on one piece at the time, zooming in the reference and try to forget about the rest of the painting ´til I´m done with the part I´m doing... I know it´s odd, and when I paint (try to paint is more like it :rolleyes: ) with traditional media (watercolor) I don´t do it this way. Then I build values all over the painting at the same time.

12 December 2006, 11:03 PM
Dec 14,2006

Intervain....You must be a pretty good talker...and must have spoken the right words..:)
Now, all I want to know is, WHAT DID HE DO WITH MY PAINTING...LOL..:scream:

SaraD...THANK YOU....I am really likeing the way yours are coming out also..SLOWLY, BUT SURELY...:thumbsup:

HEY...RAZZ...CHEATING..LOL.... ..Only applies if you don't know how to do what you are trying to do in the first place...:scream:

12 December 2006, 11:53 PM
Hi guys,

Thank you for all the comments and replies! :)

My quick update - still a long, long way to go...

12 December 2006, 12:00 AM
Some great work around here!

I started a value study in Painter; i hope to finish this one. Still a long way to go.

12 December 2006, 12:11 AM
mwahahahaha - I win ;)

that's hillarious Glen!

Great stuff Rebeccak!! Love it...

well I guess it's time to move on to the things I don't want to do :) Started the pearls and I can safely say that it feels like punishment, and the other woman has the whole necklace 0_o ... aaaaaa!!!

also did part of the chair... I'm still thinking what to do with those damask patterns on top :) - kinda tempted to go to one of my fav websites [ (] ( and nick a damask pattern from their vast resources ;P

the bow on the front of her dress I guess will never come into fruition LOL - it's killing me - I've tried to paint it like 5 times already :rolleyes:
Oh and I'm definitely not doing the fan or the gloves ;P no way...

well just a b&w version today :)

12 December 2006, 07:35 AM
Awesome works everyone! :D

Actually had gotten here a long while ago but i totally forgot about it! I'll finish it today!

Colors are pretty much wrong, that's cause i paint using two monitors and they have slightly different color settings... The one with the ref is more desaturated and a bit brighter.

12 December 2006, 09:48 AM
Great thread, I really want to improve my painting and drawing skills and this thread is a great opportunity. Learning from the masters, there's no better way! Here's my attempt. I know the proportions are a bit off, her body is a bit smaller/shorter and chubbyer than the original, and the arm waay to far off to the right. I fixed that a bit in the last step by copy/pasting in photoshop an moving it in. I didnt use any grids, just quickly measured the number of heads in the height, and eyeballing in the rest, and I can see that I missed it a bit, I tried pasting the original on top after I finnished it, and it was quite a bit off. But I would still like to hear what others has to say! :)

12 December 2006, 11:33 AM
Great work everyone :thumbsup: :) - keep going! only 20 more days to go??

Just a very quick update before bed :D
Still a way to go - just picking up those brushes as often as I can :)
Acrylic on canvas 42x60cm

cheers all and take care
a. :)

12 December 2006, 11:43 AM
HEY...:thumbsup: Annette...:)

Really starting to get alot of depth in there...turning out BEAUTIFUL...:applause: :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 12:54 PM
Trying to get the smooth silky look to this dress is sending me crazy...might have to give it a break for a day or two:

12 December 2006, 02:48 PM
Great job Markus. I find that these OFDWs helped me out the most. You get to see the progression of everyone's piece and that helps me understand how masters get from beginning to end.

12 December 2006, 02:56 PM
HEY....Mark...:thumbsup: ....DON'T GIVE UP YET...:scream:

Best way to get that shine, is to take each little fold and crease...and get as many color values as you can see,.. going on next to each other...will start to vibrate and shine,

12 December 2006, 05:28 PM
Markuss - nothing wrong with her to my eyes! You captured the face quite beautifully:thumbsup:

Frejasphere - she's great! You make me want to try traditional painting over the Christmas break...

Mark - well I found that doing going with those hard brushed strokes from dark to light - in sort of stripey way like Glen said - lighter and lighter next to each other.... I sort of make narrower stripes one by one from dark to almost white... especially with her dress the white makes it pop - it's hard though if you're not going for a clean finish as I myself was trying to achieve :) Still I love her so far so don't you give up!

12 December 2006, 05:35 PM
I'm not giving up guys...just taking a break for a day or too, just so I can come back to it fresh.

Magdalena & Glen thanks for the tips!!:thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 05:37 PM
Ooh why do I have to be so busy in every workshop? =(

BTW, Im trying to get another portfolio going. Anyone wanna hire an artist? =D I can move anywhere I can get a good job hehe :bounce:

Great work everyone!
Intervain, I love yours ;) great!

Markuss, very nice one too! So nice to see the process ;)

So, im peeking here in lunch time to update, a very small update in fact. If someone have any tips with the hair...

12 December 2006, 05:46 PM
Hi all.
All works Great.
Intervain, super! I like your work!
After big bad work week i have hour for painting. Not great progress. :sad: And in weekend i have not time for painting. Sekond work and shoping killed all my free time.

12 December 2006, 07:35 PM
WOW !! Mindblowing updates Everyone !! :bounce:

My Evoloution :shrug:

Thanx for the inspiration EVERYONE !! :scream:

p.s. need to struggle a lot for likeness and anatomy :banghead:

12 December 2006, 08:57 PM
:scream: more update !!

Actual size

I think this is my first coloured Mastercopy...learning LOTS of things !! :bounce:
Thanx to Rebecca the busy lady :D and of course all the artists from around the world ! :)

12 December 2006, 10:45 PM
Dec 15, 2006

Beautiful work everyone
Alot of adjustments on this one made and alot more adjustments to make.
But getting there.
Take care

ODFW 020

12 December 2006, 12:20 AM
shyamshriram - Really like the face!! it's coming along beautifully!

Glen - definite improvement - I think the upper eyelid of the right eye is a tad too low... then again who am I to teach you :love:*blushes*

Well - I call this b&w version finished! :) I've finally decided to paint the ornaments on the cloth - it's basically just smudges :) nothing as detailed as in Ingres' version but I think it's still working fine and I'm tired ;)

and this is the first colour pass... I'll be correcting some stuff with colours on top of the b&w so if you see something really annoying tell me :) [like the white piece of cloth on the chair ;P]


played around with some parts - I think I'm about to say 'finito' and no more to that one - you can find a higher res version in my portfolio! I'm through... ;)

thanks to everyone for your encouragement and helping me go further than I've ever imagined I could! Keep going people!

12 December 2006, 05:17 AM
Great work everyone :thumbsup:

Intervain... Awesome :D



12 December 2006, 11:08 AM
My, my, this workshop is hitting off quickly, and its going all the way through christmas!

I have been playing around with both painter and photoshop, and I think I will stick with photoshop. I will try and do a Monochrome version first, and if successful, then I will go for colour. When I was messing I was having trouble finding the right hues and values, hopefully the Monochrome version will teach me something.

Any tips? It will be my first time attempting this with a computer.

12 December 2006, 11:46 AM
I think I'm kinda finished. The only thing that bothers me is the rock he's carrying.

12 December 2006, 03:02 PM
Guys im glad to join in this workshop ,... I couldn't join with the last workshop but i tried to participate in this workshop. Here is my Painting just started about 30 min before and here is the work in progress image of my painting....

I welcome all the critics and comments....

12 December 2006, 03:36 PM
Wooh, Intervain, that's fantastic colour effects. How do you apply the colour over your greyscale underpainting? Soft colour brush in Multiply mode?

Here my After 001 stage 6:

WIP can be seen at my signature thread. (

12 December 2006, 03:47 PM
FateBringer - thanks :)

shapemaster - great one :thumbsup:

vincent1 - thank you! it's normal colours in 'color mode' :) + normal mode for all the stuff painted on top later, obviously :D Hope that helps!

well... having done that one I'm off to learn Painter as promised to Mal-1 ;)

12 December 2006, 03:57 PM
well... having done that one I'm off to learn Painter as promised to Mal-1 ;)

Learn Now!!

Great work on the Ingres......Amazing detail and great colour job!!!:bounce:

12 December 2006, 07:18 PM
I decided to pick another reference - another Leighton- , as the previous one proved too hard for me. Obviously it should be easier to do face close-up, right? :)

I'm in the grayscale stage now.

12 December 2006, 07:54 PM
Dec 16, 2006

Small update. Still adjusting
Amazing how subtle his color values are.

Intervain..Thanks for the suggestion on the eye, you were right...:) BEAUTIFUL JOB ON YOUR PAINTING BY THE WAY..:bounce:
Going for the whole painting on this one,...just working outward from the focal point of the painting,..the EYES..:)

Take care

OFDW 020

12 December 2006, 08:06 PM
ooooh nice update Glen! Really like how you did the areas around the eyes [the eyelids!] btw are you going for the whole image or just the head?

12 December 2006, 08:53 PM
Hey, everyone... :)

Wow, "good going" to those who have finished already. And "keep at it", to those of us still in the throes of creation.

I finally have an Ingres update to post. Mine still looks "harder and older" than the original - work yet to do to get his face right.

Also still working on the values version, but wanted to see if I could apply the colour layers and see the effect (the look of Intervain's vibrant blue dress was so inspiring!).

12 December 2006, 09:33 PM
impressive wips going on this thread!
iam very slow, and dont really do stuff for many hours straight, little update.

12 December 2006, 10:31 PM
YMS / Yvonne...:thumbsup:

GREAT JOB SO FAR...:applause: ...If you want him a little younger looking, you might lighten up the shadows around his chin and side of upper jaw/ bottom of cheek areas...a little more rosey color maybe...Ingres starts out with red as his dominate color on the canvas...that red shines through in every part of his painting, kind of changes to a gray purple, when the gold orangish
shin colors are put on top of it....You might also try softening and lightening up the edge under the chin and jaw...don't forget that light area that is just under the darkest area on the side of his jawline by his chin...side of face closest to viewer...creates that roundness and sofness...Those two things might help to convey the youth you are going after...just a couple of thoughts that might be of use to you ..don't know...but you never know..:scream:
Glad that I'm not the only one trying to do his portrait..the closer I look at his painting, the more in awe I am of his skll..:eek:
Like I said...GREAT JOB SO FAR..Yvonne...Looking forward to seeing your next update..:thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 11:05 PM
Many thanks, Glenn, for the great advice... :)

My poor guy had that light area that is just under the darkest area on the side of his jawline but I lost it in one of the many "surgeries" on his face!

I can see that I will have to put a bit more thought into the colouring - you've done such a helpful analysis on Ingres's working with his colours - thanks again.

(Your more painterly approach is looking so impressive. :thumbsup: )

12 December 2006, 11:36 PM
Some absolutely great work here i wish i had time to comment on everybodys. Thanks Ivy00 on your comments on how to paint from greyscale but i won't be needed it as i am quitting. I have'nt worked on it at all for the pass week and everytime i try i get frustrated and stop after 5 mintutes. I think maybe this particular pic might have been a bit too much for me. Thanks for the workshop Rebeccak and whos knows one of these days i might even finish something.

Ps. Her face would not have been left like that this pic needs too much rework.

12 December 2006, 11:40 PM
A few comments in a bit, but mitze, I would encourage you not to quit! :) If you like, try focusing on a particular area in detail, such as the face - and just try to work on that for the duration of the Workshop. I am at present also feeling overwhelmed with the piece I've chosen, but I'm just going to plug forward and see how much I can get done. I hope to see more of your work here - you've got a really nice start, and it would be nice to see one part of the painting further developed. :)

12 December 2006, 11:48 PM
Hugely inspiring work here by a lot of folks - it's been a fantastic Workshop so far!


Gorgeous stuff woman! I'm really impressed and inspired with this. Keep going! :)


That's looking gorgeous! I look forward to seeing your completed piece. :)


Awesome stuff - I've been admiring yours. :) She looks just a tad aggressive - but I think your progress is excellent.


Great to see your progress! I might suggest double checking the distances between eyes, nose, lips - keep going!


Awesome start!


A big WOW - extremely impressive work! Can't wait to see your progress with this! :)


Keep going! Some good stuff laid down as a basis here.

An update from me - slow going, but just taking it a step at a time:

12 December 2006, 12:50 AM

'Already' working on the hair.
Keep up the great work everyone.:thumbsup:


12 December 2006, 07:33 AM
craban nice to see your workspace. Her nose seems a tad too long

Rebeccak wow one can pick your paintings out so easily... very nice and unique style of digital painting.

mitze you just can't quit now that you've made it this far :D

renderwhite keep going... love where this is going

YMS wow... you never cease to amaze me! Ab fab!

SpiritDreamer :bounce::bounce:

HladekStepan she is looking at something/someone that is higher than her head. the angle is a bit off. Great start!

vincent1 nice one!

shapemaster that 's a real hard pose to replicate. I think you pulled it off nicely. Also, there is a lot of volume in there which I really like! Top Class!

FateBringer keep going, looking good sofar :D

So I lost motivation to re-start nr14 on A2... I now started on nr 7 in painter. It looks more like a picasso at this stage so obviously, there's a lot to do.

12 December 2006, 09:17 AM
Amazing to see the different approaches to this challenge. I love the work of the Old masters and welcomed the opportunity to jump in this OFDW finally and learn from these historic incredible artists.

Intervain and YMS really helps to see how your value study developed and then applied the color over it. Am trying to find the right and most efficient and comfortable way to approach digital painting. Excellent technique. Excellent studies.
SpiritDreamer You will inspire me to try Painter, yet. Great choice and great job thus far.
Rebecca I am studying your impressive description of the fabric. You have that control of the media that I admire so much. Wonderful job.
Indeed, a master copy teaches SO much. As well as humbles immensely. Now an attempt digitally, admire aappreciate the efforts of the many artists that try this medium because it definately has it's quirks.

Here is my finished Leighton copy. I spent an embarrasingly large amount of hours on this exercise over the span of 3 days.
My lay-in and finish done in Photoshop. Did a direct painting using a hard round and opacity pressure sensitive brush. Color was eyeballed. As I want to learn to see the color accurately I didn't want to dip the dropper onto the original image color ,as I have done in the past. Instead, I built color in 50% - 100% transparent strokes still controlling opacity by pressure. Used a seperate layer as I worked on each element. e.g. face and chest, hair, clothing. Am learning to control color, value transitions by variable pressure strokes.
This was a thoroughly enjoyable and big learning experience.

12 December 2006, 09:29 AM
Well spotted NR43, that might explain her rather large ears too.


12 December 2006, 10:33 AM
HEY....Aztec FireFlower....:bounce: :thumbsup: :)

Beautiful work there...really like the way you have done the edges,..some crisp, and some soft.
Also like the way you brought some of that background color into the shadows of the figure, like along the back arced curve of her neck...really puts her in deep space, and gives the painting a great sense of atmosphere, and a oneness...:thumbsup:
The likeness....thought I was seeing the original..LOL...scrolled down, expecting to see your version below the image you posted, then realized ...that is your version..:scream:

12 December 2006, 03:05 PM
RebeccaK: Thank you for your kind comments. She's done, hope you enjoy her even more now.

NR43: Thanks !!

After 001 stage 7:

I guess she's done...

I just bought my Wacom Intuos 3 - 6 x 8 today (replacing my Wacom Graphire 3) and used it to finish this.

I must say it made a whole new level of subtlety available to me as evidenced by this final stage.

I struggled to purchase the Intuos for a year as it is very expensive here in Malaysia; after this experience, I can just say to all who are still apprehensive about the difference;

WIP can be seen at my signature thread.

The main thing I learned from copying this Master:
Not one stroke can be left out without it being detrimental to the emotion of the character.

About this copy:

It is all eye-balled.
No painting over a master layer.
No grid system or perspective lines to transfer the original.
Painted using final colours without a greyscale underpainting.
There was a lot of repainting over errors in perceived proportions.
Surprisingly it was FUN to do; although very tiring for the eyes. (

12 December 2006, 03:33 PM
Dec 18, 2006

Beautiful work everyone!!

A couple more hours of work done on this one

The WIPs for this are on the last page of my ANATOMY / SKETCH BOOK THREAD .

Take Care Glenn

PFDW 020

12 December 2006, 04:58 PM
HEY...Vincent.... :applause: :thumbsup: :)

She came out BEAUTIFUL....:thumbsup:
Like Rebecca says, might just blend , refine, and soften up the background just a little,
you don't want it to detract from the great work you have done on want the painting to have a oneness, where there is no competition between elements, such as background and forground...harmony of elements kind of thing..:)
Really enjoyed reading what you learned from this exercise, and the way you went about painting her...may not turn out totally perfect, and look like an exact replica of the original,...but you will learn the things that you need to know along the way,by doing it this way ...and it is those things, that can't be learned any other way , that will lead to great works in the future..all the shortcut's, just shortchange the artist in the long run...:scream:
Short cuts are fine, if you know how to do it right to begin right, I mean the way the old masters did it, but using the brushes afforded in the computer, and going through the steps and or painting process that they went through...which is what you have just done..:applause: :thumbsup:
Any other way, is kind of like using a calulator to add two and two, before you have learned how to add on paper,and in your own mind first...just my opion here...:)

12 December 2006, 09:00 PM
vincent1 I know exactly how you feel about your Intuos tablet :D
Good luck with it and I hope you'll have loads of fun using it!
your study came out gorgeous btw (I do agree with Glenn and Rebecca on the bg)

AztcFireFlower omg!
I see you are totally used to painting digitally :D I think you are the living proof that having studied traditional media is a real advantage when working digitally!
wonderful outcome!

An update on my Ingres:

12 December 2006, 09:06 PM
Rebeccak - thanks again! I need a few days rest :D

AztcFireFlower - OMG she's amazing! Totally like the original :buttrock:

vincent1 - beautiful! The eyes are amazing!

SpiritDreamer - it's like he's coming out of a murky water - slowly but surely you can see more and more detail :) Cool way of painting!

NR43 - great progress - I'd suggest flipping the image horizontally, she seems skewed to one side and I'm sure it'll be easy to correct in photoshop with the liquify tool :) [GO PHOTOSHOP! ;)] :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 01:09 AM
SpiritDreamer, thanks for the great comments. :) My goal for this workshop was to learn how the masters sculpted their forms, that's why I did not do the full painting or finish the background. Eager now to apply it to my own work soon.

NR43: Thanks!! The Intuos has also help speed up my line drawings as it is so much more responsive.

Intervain: Thanks for the comments and also for the tip on using colour mode on a greyscale underpainting. :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 03:42 AM
homg drapery ::hides::
I don't see her lips making sense to me until I'm painting tone in. Grrrrrr.

12 December 2006, 03:45 AM's it guys I admit defeat, I've just spent 2 hours trying to pull that dress into shape and failed miserably...much respect to those who have conquered it here and to the main man Ingres himself, but I a lesser man could not complete the task and therefore take this figure down to a portrait with a little crop tool action...this is it, I'm finished with it!!

12 December 2006, 04:27 AM
craban, that's a great start - keep going!

Johan, I've no doubt that yours will turn out great at the end!

AztcFireFlower, Just a gorgeous piece - truly impressive stuff. :) It's not a surprise that your work is first rate, but given that this is amongst your first digital pieces, it's just truly inspiring. :)

Glenn, great look in those eyes!

ThePatches, ha, I sympathize! Looking forward to seeing this develop. :)

Mark, trust me, I am about to commit seppukku myself over this one. :surprised Not a lot of progress because I was extremely lazy this weekend. Still miles and miles to go:

12 December 2006, 11:35 AM
hi all
finally have some time to comment a little.

Rebeccak: perfect, love that soft skin and satin dress, looks very real (like you need to be told :))
Spirit: I like the way you play around with Ingres and all that :bounce:

AztecFire: well that's a precise copy for you :eek: . I'm on the same now, wish I could even come close to your result...

vincent1, Intervain, YMS : pretty much the same as above... just staring...

NR43: tried to fix the face in my update. it's coming on, but I wish I worked faster. I like the face in yours, can't wait for the dress (kind of shows which part is most fun:)). Keep it up:thumbsup:

Having corrected some parts which were way off, I'm trying to get the detail now.

12 December 2006, 04:51 PM
Everybody is doing great job! The work has been so inspiring that I'm going to jump in on this one and try to get something done before Jan 5th. I'm a little annoyed because I subscribed to the workshop thread and never got notification of this one (OFDW 020).

rebecca- There's some haunting quality about your piece with the dark and brooding tones

mal-1- If that's defeat, I'll take it any day!

Will post a WIP as soon as I get started ...after I pick one...tough choice.

12 December 2006, 07:05 PM

Rebecca - What's the original res on that? o.0 sooo smooth!

12 December 2006, 09:28 PM
small update...I worked a litle bit on the face

12 December 2006, 12:08 AM
I'm just bowled over by the work here. I don't know where to start, except to say "wow".

I'm still trying to figure out how to use PS for painting. This update actually represents a few hours work, but it doesn't show. I beagn to founder when it came to the finer detailing. The first steps seemed so easy in comparison. One other thing here: up to this point I'd worked by eye, but I decided to make some corrections to the proportions and placement using a grid and cut&pasting. Thus the funny lines.

12 December 2006, 12:30 AM
HladekStepan, impressive work so far! Keep going! :)

TripletDad, thanks a lot! I am sorry to hear you didn't get the notification - sometimes there are just unpredictably weird things with the server. If anyone else experiences problems with notifications of new Tutorials / Workshops, please let me know!

ThePatches, lovely drawing so far! I work nearly all the time in print resolution. This way, if I get a portfolio piece, I can print it - as well, I can finely details areas that need more attention. For this piece, the size of my canvas is:

4200 x 4925 pixels, or 14 x 16.417 inches at 300 dpi.

I recommend always working at print resolution, unless you are doing something really, really fast - you never know when you'll get something good, and you don't want to be caught with a great low resolution piece that you can't print! :)

Looking forward to your progress! :)

eduart, gorgeous work, really - looking forward to more!

holdensc, that's a very solid start so far - keep going, and don't be discouraged if the process takes a while to learn...I have a feeling you'll pick things up very quickly! :)

Experimental 'colorized' version - base layer - the grayscale isn't finished yet.

12 December 2006, 01:18 AM
Rebecca - oh, if only my system could handle that. I'm runnin' of 256 RAM. Anything REALLY big and I have to work at school. So mine's 1921x4000 at 72 DPI and my computer still freezes kinda every time I want to zoom in/out.


Oh well, it's just an exercise :D

12 December 2006, 01:21 AM
Rebeccak - that's amazing LOVE IT - and lol she's got a halo ;)

The Patches - beautiful start!

eduart - likewise, great image!

12 December 2006, 05:50 AM
Great to see how everyone's progressing!

Eduart - Nice work - I like the emotion and play of light that you are capturing

The Patches - Nice soft lines and a good start to building up some values too - must be frustrating having the computer freeze up on you all the time... I guess that "language" is permitted in such circumstances ;)

Vincent - Congratulations on finishing Biondina :) She looks really lovely!
Esp now that these copies are progressing quite far; it's almost strange seeing versions of one that I've been staring at for so long - well done!

YMS - Great update there, and I really like the likeness you are getting, both in his looks and his expression :) keep going!

AztcFireFlower - great work! You captured her pose and her strength beautifully :)

NR43- Can't wait to see more of this lady, progressing from Picasso to stunningly captured eyes... to...? keep going! Assuming you are working in greyscale and are going to baffle with the instant blow me away colourisation that you digital people do so well? :)

Rebeccak - See above :D even though it's just a taste of things to come; your colour test - looking good!

Craban - Nice "look in" to your workspace - think you were already selfcommenting on some of the issues and progressing well - keep it up :)

Mal-1 - Nice work, it's ok to crop at times - do you plan on doing anymore? or are you going to call it Christmas??? :)

Intervain - I really like the painting you've done, she looks wonderful - and that dress... is to die for! pity fashion has changed so much! My only comment as far as critique (and mentioned only because I've seen how far you can push things and what amazing skills you have in digital painting.. :wip: ) Looking at her neck - the right side (her left) - Lightening that shadow a bit would make the necklace more visible and show the chain resting on her collarbone and neck line, rather than looking as though it's cutting into her neck.

Great work everyone!

no time for update yet, but hope to be back tomorrow

cheers all and take care
a. :)

12 December 2006, 07:13 AM
Hi all.
Small update about next 1.5 hour. ( I try to keep account time spent on work. Simply interestingly how many it will turn out in the ending.)

12 December 2006, 09:46 AM
Small update on the dress.

12 December 2006, 11:30 AM
Hello everyone,
My name is Bronwen and this is my first time I'm trying this Old Masters Minichallenge.
I chose number 19, mainly because I'm lazy and I can work in monotones. I am not a professional, or even trained in the area of art past high school, so please forgive as I try to learn.

Here is my basic sketch drawn with the grid system. Critique welcome please.

12 December 2006, 12:51 PM
Hi Bronwen
Don't worry....we are here to you are most welcomed

12 December 2006, 07:16 PM
decided to have a go at no. 17, the Birth of Venus but in graphite, unfinished and not a great photo but you get the drift....

haven`t got time to comment but from a quick scan of the works here there is some great art here.....


12 December 2006, 10:35 PM
DEC 19 /06

Great progress happening on everyones work...real pleasure seeing it happen..:thumbsup:
Thanks for the feedback everyone...helps and keeps me going...:)


12 December 2006, 12:43 PM
Started my work with Painter IX. I am having troubles, it is my first time painting with this medium and just cannot get to grips with it. I studied Oil Painting in college, but I just do not feel as connected to this digital oil than I do with the real deal. Any tips or something to aid me along?

I also have Photoshop.

I started with sketching it all out with the 2B pencil Brush and also used layers for each segment of the figure (head, clothing, features...). I then found the 'middle-tone' for each section, and then started blocking in with the Bristle Brush. This I found I had very little control, but I thought that this would be good as it makes me avoid detail early on. Then I start going to the High-tones (shadows), to form depth, excluding Low-tones at this stage (Highlights). But this is making it look muddy, and I dislike looking at this as I work. I am also tempted to paint in the features, but dislike the muddy affect so much I do not want to go to features until I 'fix' this.

Tips please? I would use Photoshop (most familiar), but I thought I would use this as I can use real world medium effects.

12 December 2006, 01:15 PM
HEY....F13wk / Andrew...:)

I am using PAINTER # 9 ...I do the painting on one layer, in the BMP SETTING..LESS PROBLEMS
I just save versions as I go along, when I reach a stage in the painting worth AS INGRES #1..2 3..4 ECT...That way of doing it , makes it close to like painting on a real canvas, you can go back to an earlier version if you get way off track for some reason in your curent version..:scream:
Plus you can work at a high resolution, because you are working on a single layer all the time...won't have problems like you will run into if you are working multi layered in the RIFF mode at a high resolution..:)
You might try experimenting with some of the brushes in the TINTING get the stroke you want,..then in there is a brush called SOFTENER...GREAT for the edges of the might experiment with it a little...over and around your strokes
Also in the BLENDER section...I have been using the SOFT BLENDER STUMP #30...just ajust the brush sizes to fit your needs...I have just been using one brush from the tinting section, ajusting it's size as needed, and the softener brush, also adjusting it's size as needed, and a very little bit of the blender to push some of the stuborn edges of color into place ..The combination of those three brushes might work for you...don't know, but it's worth a try..:)

12 December 2006, 01:55 PM
i think i jus went crazy,but thats what im best at:scream: im gonna try another ofwd and this time iv chosen image 10.i don no if it'l b done in time or not but i'l sure try to make it well:thumbsup: keep it up ppl

12 December 2006, 02:23 PM
HEY....F13wk / Andrew...:)

I am using PAINTER # 9 ...I do the painting on one layer, in the BMP SETTING..LESS PROBLEMS
I just save versions as I go along, when I reach a stage in the painting worth AS INGRES #1..2 3..4 ECT...That way of doing it , makes it close to like painting on a real canvas, you can go back to an earlier version if you get way off track for some reason in your curent version..:scream:
Plus you can work at a high resolution, because you are working on a single layer all the time...won't have problems like you will run into if you are working multi layered in the RIFF mode at a high resolution..:)
You might try experimenting with some of the brushes in the TINTING get the stroke you want,..then in there is a brush called SOFTENER...GREAT for the edges of the might experiment with it a little...over and around your strokes
Also in the BLENDER section...I have been using the SOFT BLENDER STUMP #30...just ajust the brush sizes to fit your needs...I have just been using one brush from the tinting section, ajusting it's size as needed, and the softener brush, also adjusting it's size as needed, and a very little bit of the blender to push some of the stuborn edges of color into place ..The combination of those three brushes might work for you...don't know, but it's worth a try..:)

Thank you Glenn.

As you can see, I did not really mess with any settings, i just jumped right into the defaults and went from there. It seems with computer graphics you need to actually customize things to get the right affects. With traditional you can apply things depending on the input of pressure and direction. Sue digital can do this, but it seems you have to tell 'it', not your hand.

I will start again, but this time play around at first looking at the settings, brushes, and single layer work.

12 December 2006, 08:29 PM
One question, how do I set specific brushes to hot keys?? It would make things more efficient. I like the brushes you recommended, they are similar to Photoshops. Thanks for that!

12 December 2006, 08:50 PM
SpiritDreamer : Wow, yours take a big step i think! Love your progress!

Rebecca : I really like the sharpness of your painting. The dress is beautiful.

Eduart : Looks very good!

The Patches : Thats a beautiful start.

AztcFireFlower : Cool, a finished piece! You did it very well. Congratulations :)

Intervain : Congratulations too, its a very nice work you have done :scream: ! Your color pass work very nicely. I tried to do mine yesterday night, and was a bit disapointed :sad: I think maybe its because my b&w version is not enough good, i mean the values.I will have for sure to do a normal layer on top to touch up the colors.

Mal-1 : Nice work... even if you dont want to finish it :P But I totally understand you... I choose a less datailed one than yours and I have a hard time to finish it... and more it was your second one :scream:

Krispee : Beautiful drawing.. and not a so bad picture, in fact i didnt notice it was one :P

I had some time yesterday to continue mine. I tried to smooth the face and remove the original black lines. I dont know when I will have the courage to the the hair :D
I know there is something different in her face than the original, but I cant really put the finger on it. I feel less life in her eyes than in the original :sad: The mouth looks different too, but dont see what exactly is the problem :shrug:
Tried a color pass, and dont really like it too... I like the progress I did so far, but see a lot a small things that bothers me.. grrr

12 December 2006, 10:38 PM
Thanks you are doing a great Job with this, you have more patience than me!

I've been lulled back in with this one...Just a head study though!:)

Giving Artrage a it often gets a bad deal sitting next to photoshop & painter, so I'm trying to bring it back:thumbsup: .

12 December 2006, 10:40 PM
I just couldn't resist coloring it any longer:arteest: :)

12 December 2006, 10:56 PM
HladekStepan: Very nice values and drawing. But i think some edges could be a bit harder.

Mal-1: I really like those traditional looking brush strokes.

calan: Looks very good and very detailed. :D

Painting in greyscale again right now:

12 December 2006, 10:59 PM
SaraD - the cloth is looking beautiful!

calan - I think your b&w is perfect - love the lips! I had to touch mine up on a normal layer as well [well actually almost the entire chair was repainted because I didn't like how the values one turned out under the color layer!]

Mark - that's really looking great!

HladekStepan - are you using smudging or just soft brushes? I think it's too blurry - it would benefit from some harder edges :thumbsup: try it :)

Vulturius - that's gorgeus! Keep going :bounce:

12 December 2006, 11:26 PM
Hello, well here is my Try, I might try a few, just for practice, I am trying to break out of my style...which doesn't seem to be very popular. But, seems like my style just sticks with me. I used an Wacom 6 x 8 and my new iMac running Artrage 2, which is pretty cool for $19.

F13wk - I think you might like Artrage, its quick, has many of the same features as Painter!

12 December 2006, 01:33 AM
Wow...lots of images have been added since I last dropped by. Great work!

Glenn, You've been busy! Good work on his expression and he has very nice eyes!:)

Rebecca, You have really captured her and the coloring is lovely. Again fabric is awesome!!

Intervain, you really need to frame your image!

Vulturious..really coming along well, very nice work so far overall and on her face, arms and hands.

Krispee...lovely drawing looking forward to an update.

Mal-1, It is a great start, a head study is a nice idea. I may decide to try that as well. Hope you finish.:)

There are so many new images and I'm sorry I can't reply to all. Keep painting!:)

12 December 2006, 04:51 AM
Well, attempting to do some sort of painting.

12 December 2006, 06:54 AM
still messy. I decided to continue the rest of the sculpture in mudbox.

(sorry for the poor rendering. Im lazy :D)

12 December 2006, 04:31 PM
I've been lurking since this thread began - got started on my own study - and finally decided to get brave, join and post what I've been up to.

I've been so impressed by the work here, the energy that's gone into the work and the enthusiastic support of fellow posters.

12 December 2006, 04:58 PM
amaryllis - are you kidding me?! It's awesome, definitely no need to be shy! Keep working on it!

12 December 2006, 06:38 PM
Thanks Mal-1, Vulturius and Intervain for the feedbacks! :scream:

Mal-1 : Very nice start again. I love the look of your canvas... I have not try painter or artrage... I really have to learn these. The "texture" looks very nice and rich.

Vulturius : Good work! Its coming very nicely in the face area!

claybub : Nice to see 3d stuff. Well done!

amaryllis: This is beautiful, I love the face! Keep going!

A little update for me. I only worked on the color layer for the face and the white clothes.
I really have to push myself next time to do the hair :D .

12 December 2006, 10:21 PM
Dec 21, 2006

Great work everyone.

More refinements. Tried for a closer resemblence. Think I got it.

OFDW 020

12 December 2006, 10:24 PM

I'm happy to see so many good works. It's a pleasure to see the new posts with your updates. is one of mine


12 December 2006, 12:30 AM
Just want to thank everyone for their kind words and report that I have had a Homer Simpson moment....I have lost the Artrage Ingres I was doing "DOH!", I either didn't save it properly or I accidently deleted it, I have searched everywhere including my bin but to no I'm afraid it will remain in that unfinished state!!:sad: Oh well!!:shrug: , I suppose I could always start another!:eek:

Some fantastic work revealing itself in here, keep it up guys, this thread rocks!!:buttrock:

12 December 2006, 02:26 AM
Here I go again...
After 003:

Stage 1, 90 minutes work. (

12 December 2006, 02:33 AM
MAl-1 So bad that such a nice piece disappeared. It was such a tremendous start. You handle brushwork like an oil painting pro. Nice tiling and color use.
HladekStepan Good start. Good flesh color. As you do head studies you will find it gets easier to place a likeness.
Vulturius Nice job especially in the atttude in her face. Her left eye not looking exactly at viewer, tho. Eye should be looking slightly higher.
Dark3D This Artrage is being put through it's paces on this forum. Like how you massed in darks in hair in the charcoal textured post.
claybub Nice render and modeling. Am impressed with 3d attempts at master works.
amaryllis Nice values. The draing is very good. I like the texture you've created in the folds. Very interesting satiny effect.

calan You've done a fine job of capturing the youthfulness of this subject. Something NOT easy to do. And the likeness....i think you pretty much nailed her look. But if you want nit picky, the iris on this side is a little rounder, that is, you see more of the pupil in the original, not as hidden under lid. Small small detail that may make a difference. As for the mouth, that is beautifully done, exactly to me, as the original, however, her jaw is ever so slightly pulled furthur back than you have. SO subtle in angle. But, it's great to be at a stage that these small refinements are worth your interest to correct. Means you have a refined eye for nuances.
Hair is just shapes that you see when you squint, well depending what kinda effect you're going for. But I think you've the skill to do it justice.
Very nice painting SpiritDreamer, The flesh tone has life. I totally admire the subtle plane changes in the cheeks and face throughout. Iris looks luminous and deep. I think you are going to do great in your figure workshops.
eduart Wow. Excellent job in handling the tones and transitions. SOLID FORM.

12 December 2006, 03:13 AM
Hello again, I really like all of the work here too. I am glad to see I am not the only one using artrage too! Love the 3D Claybub is doing too. I work in 3D and thats pretty good work!

My attempt at watercolors in Artrage.

12 December 2006, 04:35 AM
Hi to all, long time without post, i see really good copys and with great individual percptions, so now is my turn, this is a visual perption and eye acuracy work, so I don`t erase o take general proportions, is step by step drawing, taking measures inch by inch, hard work but really good for perception and visualization of teh danzing line of this master of drawing and paint, Ingres, c-you soon


12 December 2006, 04:37 AM
second update

12 December 2006, 04:38 AM
next step 3

12 December 2006, 04:39 AM
number 4, is gettin hard

12 December 2006, 04:40 AM
number 5, 1 1/2 hour

12 December 2006, 04:42 AM
last step for tonight, 2 hours till now of work, i hope you like

12 December 2006, 05:09 AM
After 003 Stage 2: (

12 December 2006, 07:33 AM
vincent1 Nice second stage. Good rendering around the face and shoulders.

12 December 2006, 12:10 PM
MAl-1 So bad that such a nice piece disappeared. It was such a tremendous start. You handle brushwork like an oil painting pro. Nice tiling and color use.

Thanks AFF......I come from a traditional background and so tend to use the digital media in that way.

Vincent - Great work, you have captured those delicate skin tones very well.

Zhay - tremendous draughtsmanship.

Eduart - the lighting on this piece is outstanding.

The rest keep up the good work!!

12 December 2006, 05:18 PM
Here's an update. I'm beginning to add some warmth to the color, though overall, it's still too light in value. I'm still refining - made some changes to the ear and shading on the neck. I'm thinking my copy makes the model look a little more like a 40's movie star than Leighton's painting. I can't quite figure it out - any insights?

I haven't done a master copy an ages and I forgot how much fun it is and how much there is to learn from it.

I continue to be impressed with the work you are all posting. I'd be interested to hear how you work with color, especially if you begin with a monochromatic scheme.

12 December 2006, 05:55 PM
AztcFireFlower, Mal-1: Thank you!

Here is After 003 stage 3:

Not long to go before she's done. (

12 December 2006, 06:38 PM
Phew harder than I thought! I have tried to avoid details as much as possible up to this stage. Any tips please? (VERY MUCH NEEDED!!!)

I must comment that even though my image is not as good as the ones shown here, I am learning A LOT by doing this, rather than learning half-assedly. I will try my best to try and make it as accurate as possible, in both colour and form.

12 December 2006, 01:46 AM
i haven't been around for a week or so, had to get my last 2 exams out of the way first...i came back and found GREAT stuff here! way to go everyone!
so here's an update finally, done with my brand new sparkling wacom tablet! yay x-mas!!! :D

12 December 2006, 04:17 AM
I continue to be impressed with the work you are all posting. I'd be interested to hear how you work with color, especially if you begin with a monochromatic scheme.
amaryllis, welcome to CGTalk and to the Anatomy Forum! :) Some very nice work so far, I'm glad you're enjoying the Workshop!

This is a frequently asked question and I should have posted this at the beginning of the thread or as a Sticky a long time ago, but I've finally gotten around to it here:

How Do I Go From Grayscale to Color? (

I hope this helps!

I'm sure we all may be a little MIA over the holiday break, but happy holidays everyone and keep posting if you are able! :)

EDIT: Dark3D, great to see you back here, and I really like your new direction! The linework on the piece you just posted is really nice - it describes the volume really well in a nicely direct way. :)



12 December 2006, 04:21 AM
Well, another painting, this one kinda quick in artrage.

vivien82 - Nice work, what kinda of tablet did you get? My wife bought me a Wacom 6 x 11 intuos 3, I think its hiding somewhere, I have to wait till Christmas..

12 December 2006, 04:35 AM
Phew harder than I thought! I have tried to avoid details as much as possible up to this stage. Any tips please? (VERY MUCH NEEDED!!!)
Fl3wk, I think at this stage you seem to be getting overwhelmed by the color - I think the key thing to do is to simplify each hue you are using into their value and saturation scales - using the hues you've selected, for example, red, try creating a limited value range for that red - a light, mid tone, and dark red - create solid, 100% opacity swatches for these - and do that for every hue you are using.

This color theory post may be of use:

Color Theory Principles (

Try not to get overwhelmed by everything at once - remember that form is just comprised of light, midtone, shadow, and reflected light. This doesn't change with the addition of the factor of color, it just becomes another item to juggle when putting together your painting. That's where choosing a simplified range of swatches per hue can help you with blocking in your painting. Once you've blocked things in, you can then sample your canvas (while in brush mode, alt + click your canvas to temporarily turn your brush into the eyedropper tool) and begin to get some subtlety to your blending.

Hope this helps! :)

12 December 2006, 07:05 AM
After 003 final stage:
I guess she's done. This time I put on more of the forger's mind; still an exact copy was not my intention.

About this copy:

As before it is all eye-balled.

No grid system was used.

No painting over a master layer. Just the original on the left and my copy on the right.

No greyscale underpainting, just final colours.

This time it was much faster, taking less than 10 hours over four sessions.

The main thing I learned this time:

If my imagination approaches this master, I would be considered one also in about 500 years.

Think about it; this painting is of a woman standing in a cave with a small hole in the roof where the shaft of light lights her up at the water's edge, with a trickling waterfall behind her. She wears nothing but a fine cotten open weave cloth. If this was painted live, she would have caught her death of a cold after this commission. :) (

12 December 2006, 07:46 AM
vincent1 Well done!

12 December 2006, 01:07 PM
Aztec FireFlower....HEY ...THANK YOU..:) ..I usually don't blend my brushstroks when I paint.
That Ingres portrait was a real challenge for me to try something new,..BLENDING...The only way to get those subtle color changes happening in his paintings I think..that and having all the right colors laid down in the right places to begin with..Was a real test in close observation..:scream:

Vincent...Yours came out BEAUTIFUL...JUST PLAIN OLD EYEBALLING, is the best way to really learn to SEE...A lot harder than other methods that the computer afords, but the results pay off ten fold in knowlage gained I think..and the rewards are much more satisfying in the end also..I eyeballed mine also,COLOR AND ALL ..was tempted to check it with an overlay for accuracy, but opted for the old fashioned way of just eyeballing and forcing my eyes to really see what is actually there..:)

F13wk / Andrew...The key to getting a likeness, is to really get the distances between forms,..starting with the eyesockets, their relationship or distance from bottom of chin and top of forhead,...then the distances and angles of the smaller forms, such as nose, lips, cheek bones, ect....kind of working your way outward from the center spot between the eyesockets..and really getting all of the distances and angles right between forms as you work your way outward from the central access of the face.
Start with big generalized strokes to decribe the forms,..then work into smaller brushstrokes
as you go along and refine the bigger changing the size of your brush, in the BRUSH CREATOR section in painter...Just leave a little bit of that menu showing behind your painting, and when you touch it with your pen, will appear on top of your painting..
ajust your brush size..then touch the edge of your painting , and the painting will reappear, and the BRUSH CREATOR menu will go behind it once more,..until you bring it up again, by touching it with your pen..
You want your color wheel seperate from the the brush creator menu..just put it somewhere on top of the original painting, or wherever you like, so you can chose your colors as you paint your strokes.
Hope this helps you a little...there are probably a lot of other ways, but that is how I do my painting...:)

12 December 2006, 05:33 PM
dark3D: it's a graphire4 A6 format...the bigger formats get too expensive for my poor student pockets :D but it is really excellent! for now i can only dream of buying myself an intuos!! lucky you, have fun with it! :D


12 December 2006, 05:39 PM
zhay13 - beautiful copy of the Ingres drawing! I don't know how you manage to keep the proportion together without some initial reference sketching. I'm impressed!

vincent1 - So nicely done! You're right - if that model was in a cave she would be a lovely shade of blue...

F13wk - I'm wondering if some skeletal structure would be helpful. Sometimes the underlying form can get lost in the kind of amorphous lights and darks. I need to have some sense of what the light and shadow is referencing underneath the skin surface.

vivien82 - Terrific start on the Ingres painting. I am appreciating the different ways each of us is going at these copies.

Dark3D - Lovely quick sketch. I think if we can see quickly in the beginning - if we choose to do a longer study it's all right there. The quick ones are very good practice. You're going to love your Wacom. Lucky you!

Everytime I think I'm done, I see more I need to work on. Rebecca - thanks for the tips. It made a big difference. I was having a hard time getting the values as dark as they needed to be, and this helped a lot. I think this is done - or close to it.

12 December 2006, 09:04 PM
rebecca: let me know if i'm posting too many images!...
amaryllis: thank you! i agree with you, it's great to see all the different workflows!

12 December 2006, 09:37 PM
vincent-1 - that's really beatiful!

vivien82 - love the hair and the bow on top - they look really shiny!

well I've had my break I think and I've abandoned the second Ingres after all :) - no patience for another dress... Instead I'll try doing a Leighton in the few days left..

Only just started - a few hours work so far as I had no time to do any more... So I do know a lot is off... I just want to show that I am doing something :) This one's being modeled in xsi from scratch. This is only the base mesh which will eventually go into zbrush - soon hopefully :) Will correct all the flaws in due time :)

12 December 2006, 03:12 AM
Great work everybody. I've been polishing my work a bit more. (His right leg is too short - have to fix that later).

12 December 2006, 03:53 AM
Another quick one, this one using my new Christmas tablet, an Wacom 8x11. Yay!

12 December 2006, 10:46 PM
Dark3D - there's nothing like a lovely tablet, heh? good one :thumbsup: though her lower body seems short...

battle812 - nice, keep going!!

here's my update on the Leighton:
the base of the head is done, the clothes need to be finished [since I want to make a bust stand for her :)] for now I'm off to start zbrushing :D


12 December 2006, 04:19 AM
wow.Great work everybody.

Intervain-Beautiful model.

My other side are bad:sad:
my update

12 December 2006, 04:49 AM
HuiTzu - that's great! Her face's awesome - especiallythe lips! - I know what you mean, it's so hard to get it to fit the image and still look relatively real from other sides since many artists just take a lot of licence with their anatomy and poses... sometimes they are simply impossible in real life but look so good in 2d :D I think you're doing an awesome job!

12 December 2006, 06:07 AM
woohah...... amazing works from everybody..
I'm sort of finishing mine now..


colorized.( it was fun to try new technique)

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND GOD BLESS YOU! ( dont forget baby jesus! )

12 December 2006, 10:18 PM
Merry Xmas!

! Update:

12 December 2006, 11:41 PM
thanks intervain, glad you like how it's coming along :)
did some minor work today, sketched in a little of the gown and did some of the hand...i'm a bit tired after all the xmas eating/cleaning up after relatives/socializing that i'm not used to etc... ;)

12 December 2006, 11:19 PM
you're flying with this one Vivien! :thumbsup:

12 December 2006, 11:37 PM
Dec. 26,2006


Finally starting to see some light at the end of this tunnel...blocking in the hands, needs more work on coat...ect....getting there...SLOWLY BUT SURELY...:)

OFDW 020

12 December 2006, 01:12 AM
he's looking absolutely awesome Glenn! :bounce:

12 December 2006, 07:59 AM
hi more updates, hard work, litle time

c-you soon

12 December 2006, 05:08 PM
Intervain and Sturmkim - I find it especially interesting to see the work of others working with the same image I've been staring at for days. Nice work!

I've decided to try another. Carravaggio has always been a hero and I'm finding out why. This is a substantially more challenging painting to copy. The impish grin of Amor - how did he see this expression that lasts less than a second, so clearly and accurately? I love the energy of this piece and hope to capture even a modest sense of it. I think I tend to be more a drawer than a painter and Carravagio is pushing me to be more painterly with this.

12 December 2006, 10:31 PM
vivian82- That is looking absolutely GORGEOUS! I love the colors of her face, very life-like!

I had to take a break, here's what I got so far. Still not perfect onthe face, but it looks like a human lol.

I hope I finish >.>

12 December 2006, 11:30 PM
Dec 27, 2006

Thank you Magdalena
Worked on the hands, robe, shirt and a few other details. Still a few more details to go.
Great work everyone!

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12 December 2006, 08:40 PM
I am totally overwhelmed by what everyone has been posting here... really beautiful!

So I practically restarted mine from scratch, taking a rather unusual approach this time...

you guys are all amazingly talented! Please continue!

12 December 2006, 10:29 PM
Glenn - he's rocking :buttrock:

Johan - like I've said, beautiful job on the cloth!

ehem... my Ingres 2 has received a dusting... don't know for how long though :) so just take my efforts to finish it with a pinch of salt :D

obviously haven't moved far with it... just some corrections and a bit more work on the face...

12 December 2006, 11:08 PM
Dec 28, 2006

THANKS...Magdalena...:) ...I can see that you must be a glutton for punishment...:scream:
GREAT JOB so far on your second piece,...OH to be young again, and have that much ENERGY..:scream: ...That first one you did is going to be a hard one to top, but i'm sure you'll
manage it...:bounce: :)

Hey Johan I like your new approach. That drapery is really coming out beautiful. :thumbsup:

LOTS of ROCKING work on this thread from everyone I think...:applause: :thumbsup:

Working on my final version of this piece. Decided to make it my own. :scream:

OFDW 020

12 December 2006, 02:36 AM
hehe Glenn - I'm glad one of us is sure :scream:

And he is your own now for sure - go yellow!! LOL

ok a little update - discovered a clever way to paint pearls in b&w so I'm proud of myself and a little relieved... And worked a little more on the face + the top of the dress underneath the lace...

12 December 2006, 07:38 AM
you guys are amazing.. i wish i were a little more ambitious tried some of those elaborate drapery... this naked body is hard enough for me :-(

a little update before it ends ...not much progresss as you can see, still on the underpainting.. appreciate comments!

12 December 2006, 02:47 PM
Looking good everyone :)
Here´s my copy and some stages..
You can see more stages here (

I´m still working on it..

Hope everyone´s getting a good time and Happy New Year :)

12 December 2006, 03:24 PM
imafo - I lov ehow you added more color to the painting! The swan feels real...

12 December 2006, 07:28 PM
imafo - that's awesome!

levin - real great job on the guy:thumbsup:

a very tiny update since I've drowned my intuos pen in the sink today and it's refusing to work properly :sad:

12 December 2006, 10:03 PM
Dec 29, 2006

Little further on this experiment...trying for some DaVinci lighting...Saw his second Madona of the rocks painting for real a few years ago when it was in BOSTON...The lighting was pure magic.
Had a lot to do with the way his colors came out of the darkness I subtle as to be hardly visible,..but without them there..would be no magic.
I will never be able to even come close to getting that kind of magic in my lifetime, but it is so much fun trying...:scream:

OFDW 020

12 December 2006, 12:36 AM
Wow !!!

Lotz of great artworks around now !

Just passing by from one resting place to another here... ;)
Heading to the beach now and wanted to drop this message to wish everybody here a Happy New Year ! My best wishes to everyone, lotz of health, prosperity happiness, peace and love and cya guys and girls next week before this OFDW ends up.

Keep up the great artworks ! :)


12 December 2006, 03:20 AM
Awesome work everyone :thumbsup:

Happy New Year


12 December 2006, 08:17 AM
Hi all :)

Christmas got in the way :D and haven't had much time lately - so it's going to be an interesting first few days of the new year as far as finishing goes :)

So many lovely pieces and great work from all you guys :)

A small update: her mouth is off at the moment - mainly worked on her blouse and some highlights on the left side (looking at) of her face. Hoping to find more time very soon as it's a great workshop!
acrylic on canvas

sorry about the photo quality...

Take care all and cheers!

Also: HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :beer: :wavey: (incase I don't get to update before - and we do have a slight headstart to the new year this side of the world ;) )


12 December 2006, 10:36 AM
My turn.

I started my own rendition of the 'Titan' pic. Here is the quick sketch and my first laying down of flats. More to come, though it will be slow going since I'm a PS novice.

12 December 2006, 12:59 PM
Dec 29, 2006




A little further on this experiment. Getting away from the "glow in the dark" tangent I wandered into .Saved all my versions, so have plenty of experiments to play with...:scream:

OFDW 020

12 December 2006, 05:59 PM
Frejasphere - wow she's looking really beautiful and delicate! You've managed to capture her youthfulness exceedingly well :applause:

Glenn - I have to say I like this new, toned down version way better! Oh man his face is really captivating! :buttrock:

again - a very tiny update on different parts, mostly the dress...

12 December 2006, 07:12 PM
come back from vacation, hope to have some time to dedicate to the workshop. Great work there ! Compliments to all

12 December 2006, 06:57 AM
Intervain another awesome one :)

SpiritDreamer Thanks :) really love that experiment your working on :thumbsup:

Oninoko21 nice start

Frejashere great work on the blouse :thumbsup:

worked on her hair tonight about 5 hrs
just some fine tuning left I think


01 January 2007, 03:53 AM
some miner fixes

Happy New Year everyone


01 January 2007, 05:09 AM
Wow Nice work in here. Good job everyone.

I sat out of a couple of these threads for a while now. I have to get my swagger back.

This is what I have so far. Painter 9 and about 30 mins......

01 January 2007, 02:21 PM
finished my piece, Nuvel`s Birth of Venus.....

again great work here, on this page especially, Spiritdreamer, Fatebringer, and Intervain....really fantastic work dudes.....
sorry i couldn`t comment on others but well done nonetheless....


01 January 2007, 02:52 PM
krispee - thank you and wow, she's great! Would have been nice to see some colour on those perfect lines now:thumbsup:

pushav - great to see you join it the fun!

FateBringer - the hair's just stunning! I love it so much [pard me I'm a hair person LOL, kinda obsessed with it :scream:] I have a slight problem with the nose, the nostrils seem to be starting down too low... otherwise great job :applause:

getting nearer the colouring stage, decided to speed up with it so the dress is not perhaps as good as it could be :shrug: [there's one more in-between stage in my thread - didn't want to post too much here :)]
Oh obviously I cheated with the wallpaper - it's a texture pattern ;)

01 January 2007, 02:55 PM
intervain: cheers dude, but she`s all graphite on paper so colour is out unles i start time though....

yours is getting better and better, stunning work on that dress, all round in fact, looks great just mono, but i`m a sucker for mono work.......anyway, fabulouso!


01 January 2007, 02:59 PM
oooh I was thinking about putting the scan through a photoshop torture ;) But I do love it the way it is too :thumbsup: and thanks again!

01 January 2007, 03:01 PM
ah, you are way ahead of me dude lol, could be done `tis true, hadn`t thought about it.....will keep an eye on yours though.....


01 January 2007, 03:08 PM
Well done everyone,Intervain you should post a close up of that detail work,looks realy good.

So here´s my final in this one,my respect for these Masters icreased so much,damm is just superb how they did this stuff with such attention a precision to details,values,shapes,etc..i just made a copy and still there´s so much i could improved it´s amazing.

Choice 02:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)
Oil on canvas, 1862
Private collection
Original size (
Keep up the good work everyone! :)

01 January 2007, 04:12 PM
imafo - fantastic work! Truly amazing, especially on the swan. Love the feathers! :bounce:

I agree with you, once you try to copy one of those paintings you gain a whole load of respect for those artists... I'm probably the biggest fan of Ingres alive LOL

here's some real size detail from mine - just the more interesting [well the lace looks like a lot of dots and swirls which is exactly what it is] parts ;) - the dress looks like a load of smudges and strokes in close up and works only when you zoom out... [which is how I painted it half of the time - with a very tiny canvas, zoomed out 2x at least and a rather big brush with a substantial falloff - so only the centre really paints, which is what I do anyway... I can't seem to force myself to paint with smaller brushes...]

01 January 2007, 04:47 PM
Yeah,that´s what i was talking about ^^ those close ups..superb work intervain! :thumbsup:

01 January 2007, 07:46 PM
I just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed these. I wasn't able to participate during this round, but I can't wait for the next one. I love doing masters' copies.

01 January 2007, 08:10 PM
Well, I could join just today. Too late, but I couldn't resist. I got several trobles with my machine, so now I've got a new one, I'm here.

I'd started this sketch yesterday. I know I won't get to the deadline, but I'm here, most of all, to learn.

So, all your crits are welcome.

Here goes my first step:

Choice 04:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)

01 January 2007, 01:11 AM
I just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed these. I wasn't able to participate during this round, but I can't wait for the next one. I love doing masters' copies.
Asatira, welcome! I hope that you will participate in the future. Be sure to subscribe to this ( thread to be notified when a new one begins. :)


I'm not in the habit of extending the OFDW deadlines, but due to the holidays I've extending the final date for this OFDW til the end of the day (in your timezone), Jan. 10 - that gives everyone 5 extra days to work on their pieces.

I frankly didn't touch Photoshop during the Holidays (I needed a break!) :) so I hope everyone is okay with this deadline extension.

So: This OFDW 020 officially concludes at the end of the day on Jan. 10th.

Happy New Year everyone! :)



01 January 2007, 02:08 AM

That's a really gorgeous start on your second piece, I really want to commend you for working so hard in this OFDW in particular! :) It's also really nice how much you support everyone around the forums. It's really appreciated! :)

My apologies for not being very active in the last week replies-wise, but I have to say that having a break from being around the computer 24-7 was really nice. Back in the saddle today / tomorrow hopefully, looking forward to chugging away / picking up where I left's really fantastic to see all the great work around here - I hope 2007 will yield just as much amazing work as 2006! :)


01 January 2007, 02:45 AM
Awww thanks Becca and a HAPPY NEW YEAR :)

Well I'm gaining as much as I'm putting in or more by participating in the workshop and the forum in general so it's more of a pleasure than hard work! :bounce:

01 January 2007, 06:07 AM
Thank you Rebeccak :) :thumbsup:

That certainly was a New Year's present and a half - 5 extra days to finish! :)
Having just started the year with a big bang and lots of laughs - it feels great to have a few extra days to get into gear!

Fatebringer - love the hair, you can almost count the strands, that is amazing detail work :)

Intervain - lovely close-ups showing the detail work! Oh you are a true master of fabrics and bringing out the elegance :) keep it up!

Imafo - beautiful work in yours! Looks so much like the original and you've really captured her mood, the colours and - such detail!

Glenn - I do like your last version, he's jumping out much more and you've captured that expression very well :)

Krispee - Nice work! I like the softness in your drawing - gives elegance to her pose :) Also her hair... it's lovely!

Blessing - Nice start there, she's got a powerful expression which you have captured already :) with the extra days you should be able to finish ;)

No time to paint today, but will be back shortly...
take care all and cheers
a. :)

01 January 2007, 10:47 AM
So, a new year and new efforts :)
Have been away for the holidays, but here´s a small update from this morning.

Gonna go through all the beautiful paintings tonight, and do all the usual "wows" and "oooohs"

01 January 2007, 12:24 PM
@Frejasphere: Thank you so much! Fortunately the deadline has been extended (thanks a lot, Beccak!). I hope to get a good work and do justice to Lord Leighton's masterwork. :)

@all: The works on this thread are really amazing. Their quality is astounding. You're a great inspiration for me. Congrats to all!


Bless :)

01 January 2007, 03:53 PM
Jan 2, 2007

Working on details: coat, shirt, the rag in his hand.

Thanks everybody for the comments. Will have to write a few myself as soon as I get a chance.

Hope everybody had a great New Year.

Take Care

OFDW 020

01 January 2007, 07:59 PM
Thought I would just drop this one in before this challenge draws to a close.

Painted in my favorite new software Artrage2:

01 January 2007, 09:38 PM
Wow, I never really get over how insanely talented you guys are. :)
Okay, here's my little try, it's better than my previous ones, I think. =P

01 January 2007, 02:03 AM
Photoshop quickie.

01 January 2007, 02:30 AM
Intervain Thank you :) amazing work on your 3rd(i think) OFDW. really like seeing the close ups...I'm taking notes
Thanks Frejashere :)

some more work done w/ help from SpiritDreamer, Thank You :thumbsup:

Thanks everyone for your coments and critiques :)


01 January 2007, 03:44 AM
Mark - she's indeed looking better and better!

Frejasphere - thanks - you're too kind!

Started the colouring - obviously with the dress! Couldn't resist the temptation of pink :) got some values a tad off so I'm correcting things that are too bright a little with colour... The flesh's just a base tone now so do not be surprised at her weird looks ;) I only did parts of the hands 'properly'...

01 January 2007, 05:04 PM

@Rebeccak's a very good idea to postpone the deadline...I'll have time to finish my "poseidon man" : ))

@Intervain ....great job...I love the way you handled the dress (all that details drives me crazy)
.....the wallpaper (the background pattern) is hand maded?

oh...and you all guys are great...keep the good work!


01 January 2007, 06:30 PM
hi eduart - thanks :) No the pattern was stolen from this ( website - like I said, I cheated ;)

01 January 2007, 08:54 PM
@Intervain .... thanks for the site...the paterns are amazing
and don't worry....I like how you cheat with style and good taste : D

01 January 2007, 11:07 PM

Since no one's going to belive that i live in GMT-500:00 timezone, I propably won't finish this one before dead line :) :


01 January 2007, 11:48 PM
Jan 3, 2007

Starting to explore with transparent water color tints to see if I can warm up a few areas of this painting.

OFDW 020

01 January 2007, 01:11 AM
Wow, a lot of impressive images posted in the last few weeks. :applause:

Sumptuous work, Magdalena! :thumbsup:

Glenn, he's looking so great. Love your colour experiments!
A guy on the Concept Art OFDW thread (post # 123) has done THIS PORTRAIT ( in acrylics - looks fantastic.

Mark, she's looking better and better. You must be proud! :)

pushav, impressive result. Stamped with your own style.

Mark/Mal-1, looks like you're enjoying Artrage!

almostkungfu, you've got some nice values happening in parts of his chest, and on his left side Keep at it if you have the time.

(I'm working, finally, on getting some more work done to post... :) )

Happy New Year, All!

01 January 2007, 02:11 AM
YMS Thank you, I suppose you could put it that way :scream:

did some minor ajustments and calling this one done

Great work everyone :thumbsup:


01 January 2007, 02:34 AM
THANKS I have time to explore, experiment, and play with this painting..:scream:

HEY...Mark....:bounce: :applause: ......real jewel of a painting...SHE'S BEAUTIFUL....:thumbsup: ..GREAT JOB..:)


01 January 2007, 02:54 AM
Wow! flying colours to say the least :)

Mark - She glows!! wonderful job, the way her skin, hair and background all jump out - not to mention that blouse! :) well done!!

Intervain - mmm nice colouring! going to be a beautiful piece as she already is!

Belianis - you could always try to convince someone ;) you're off to a great start with good likeness, so don't stop :)

Pushav - I like the "poster-like" style in yours - a bit Tolouse latrec ;)

A quick update - and a dreadful photo - paint is still wet and there are reflections going awol all over the place - sorry :shrug: Just thought I'd post it anyway... been working on her hair and background - also adjusting her hairline, unfortunately the colours in pic are darker than real - Oh well that's enough excuses from me :D (note to self: take better pic next time :P )

take care all and cheers
a. :)

01 January 2007, 09:58 AM
I'm glad this was postponed, I always wanted to participate in these Master studies. Just finished the initial sketch; Here's the trick I used to nail the proportions; Basically I'll drag guides on the reference on the 'hotspots'. When I have all the guides in place, I'll go to 'create a new document on current state' , located on the HIstory palette. I'll delete the reference, and fill it with a light grey color, and start sketching. It's a lot like using a grid but much faster:

01 January 2007, 11:05 AM
Been working on this baby nonstop since the last update. Here's the current progress:

01 January 2007, 01:05 PM
Here's the finished black and white version. I'm going to add color now, finally;

01 January 2007, 02:18 PM
slickgreekgeo - great! I really love how you added the texture to her forehead area especially!

Frejasphere - beautiful, despite the shiny photo :D

FateBringer - really looking sweet!

YMS - thank you...

I hope I'll post something today - been a tad lazy yesterday :scream:

01 January 2007, 03:00 PM
Thanks Magdalena. I got a texture fetish, but I'll try to keep this as loose as I can. Here's the color progress:

01 January 2007, 04:03 PM
Here's another update, worked mostly on color harmony:

01 January 2007, 04:10 PM
I call this one finished. But with all the pieces I see here, I might just do another one, who knows. I love to see how OFDW threads grow big with lots of beautiful work.

Cheers all!

01 January 2007, 04:28 PM
Great work razz. Here's the final, I'm letting this one go earlier than I usually do :)

01 January 2007, 06:55 PM
Awesome stuff in here! It's amazing! I'm starting to feel ashamed of myself... :blush:

Congratulations to all! You're great artists! I hope to learn from you on these days. :)

Well, a small update: little fixes on her face, BG and hair. There's a lot of work to do!

Any comment or crit will be really appreciated. :)



01 January 2007, 11:24 PM
Hello everyone, good work so far. I have been so busy with work and stuff, but I really enjoy these master reproduction threads, so I am going to try to participate. Here is what I have so far. Just laying down a sketch and details, then I will add color. I already added some color for her face because I wanted to be sure I got that down before i went further. I think the major elements in her face are working, so I will not completely start over.

01 January 2007, 12:13 AM
fate bringer nice job

intervain, holy crap that dress is amazing

imafo- great job, the only thing I can comment on is try to bring some of the brighter colors used in the painting into the swan and wall

vincent1- looking good

calan- you really captured her face

01 January 2007, 01:55 AM
But i hope to make the new, extended deadline... Can't BELIEVE how AMAZING the work is coming along from everyone!!!



Cheers! Keep up the great work everyone!!!

01 January 2007, 05:06 AM getting there. This painting is going to be a lot of work.

Hey who here has used both graphire and intuous? If you have does the Intuous offer a lot more flexability? What I mean is, let us say you are drawing with it, does it feel more like a pencil, where you can easily draw light and dark be pressure. Because Graphire does not offer a big range from light to dark via pressure.

01 January 2007, 02:43 PM
Ohhhh extension! I like that....I'll definitely get mine in by we HAVE to post WIP's? Can we just post final image?

01 January 2007, 02:53 PM
Ohhhh extension! I like that....I'll definitely get mine in by we HAVE to post WIP's? Can we just post final image?
You're not required to post WIPs. :)

01 January 2007, 07:03 PM

I'm getting to the final touches....but I don't know what to do with the background....I don't know .. to make it black like in the photo of the real sculture !? .. and at the bottom should I make a rack like that !? .. or to make some waves (my idea : )) ? your idea?


01 January 2007, 10:49 PM
Jan 5, 2007

Worked on the hands, cloth he holding, his shirt and the easel in the corner

Some really great work happening by everyone. Real pleasure seeing it all
Take Care

OFDW 020

01 January 2007, 11:36 PM
hey rebeccak how is it going. I looked through the thread but I did not see your work, are you participating?

Spiritdreamer, I think this is the first almost normal painting I seen you do. The others I seen you do are very saturated neon style. It looks nice. To green and yellow for my taste, but I dig it.

Here is a little update. I usually work much faster than this, but doing so much other stuff. So i am working here and there.

01 January 2007, 12:31 AM
HEY....Eduard...FANTASTIC JOB ON YOUR NEPTUNE SCULPTURE....:bounce: :thumbsup:
You asked for IDEAS....just a thought here..:)
Not sure what program you are using....I did an action sulpture simaler to yours awhile back, using PAINTER #9...Did it in greyscale like yours, to start with,...then when it was finished, I
PUT THE COLORED SPOTLIGHTS ONTO IT.. found in paiter under effects..SURFACE CONTROL...LIGHTING...gave it a whole different feel and look....check it out, if you have time and want to.....might give you some IDEAS for yours:shrug: ...It's in my Anatomy / Sketchbook thread,
page #34


01 January 2007, 01:16 AM
Glen, I like abnormal. It is good to go against the grain, how else would we have, impressionism?

01 January 2007, 03:14 AM
Eduard: I think make it black and see what it looks like! Really nice job so far, and so many others did awesome work here!

Here is my final piece:

Choice 01:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)
Oil on canvas, 1879
20 1/2 x 16 1/4 inches (52.1 x 41.3 cm)
Hamburger Kunsthalle, Hamburg

LINK B (same ref. as above) (

And the wip:

01 January 2007, 03:20 AM
awesome job everybody!

slickgreekgeo - beautiful, subtle colours!

gilgamesh828 - how did you get so far in just 2 steps I'll never comprehend :D Awesome job!

architectus - thank you :)

Roja - fantastic result!

eduart - I'd go for black bg.. MHO :) still it's so gorgeus that it doesn't really matter :D

I finished the pink portrait [think her head is too big :eek: but enough!] and touched up some stuff on the blue one [she looks drunk still ;)]. So I'm done I guess... well the 3d one's not finished but I'm afraid it will never get there...

here are my final pieces:

Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Baronne James de Rothschild, née Betty von Rothschild
Oil on canvas, 1848
55 3/4 x 39 3/4 inches (141.9 x 101 cm)

Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Princesse Albert de Broglie, née Joséphine-Eléonore-Marie-Pauline de Galard de Brassac de Béarn
Oil on canvas, 1853
47 3/4 x 35 5/8 inches (121.3 x 90.8 cm)

01 January 2007, 09:59 AM
Hi,Thank you all for your feedback!

@SpiritDreamer I've made it in photoshop (CS 2...but the version doesn't matter much) ... I've seen your anatomy thread and I've get your idea ... I'll try to at the final to adjust the hue of the image .. and thanks!
nice work you have done there... I hardly wait you to finish it and give it some crispy edges

@Intervain Thanks! after counting the "vote" I've decided to go with the black background .. because I won't complete my idea with waves within the deadline .. and it is easier : ) ) )
wow...your finish works are great...though I think they are a bit too "overexposed" expecialy on the pink portrait .. the wrist of the pink portrait has something not qiute well and the dress highlights I think should be more flat ...
you've made them so fast!
I admire your details ... so beautifull
I love the left hand of the blue portrait ... though fist finger (or however is called the finger with wich you point at something .. my poor english :( :) ) is more straight than the original painting .. but I'm too melodramatic .. the copy shouldn't be perfect (because you might go to Louvre to expose it : ))))

overall the works are just great!

sorry for being so hard with the criticsm and I hope you won't be upset on me ... I try to be constructive and I'm sure that you've already seen them but due to the limited time you've let it like this

nice work! I like it a lot!
being again hard ctitic ... I think the contrast between the background and face is too low (a more black background) and the cheek is a litle bit too flat .. tha angle of the chin is not quite the right one .. the shadows of the "T-shirt" (I don't know the real name of the thing she is wearing : P) could be more smooth
overwall nice work!
oh .. I like the wip ... thanks!

@all .. keep up the great work!

and I invite you all to criticize my work .. I really need some : P


01 January 2007, 12:24 PM
Superb work everybody! I have learned so much from all your posts here. Keep it up guys :thumbsup:

Anyway, new years resolution for me is to become more active on CGTalk. I was always a bit shy to do anything here because I never thought my work wasn't up to par. But, I'm working hard and this year I hope to make a giant leap forward in my art self teaching!!

I'm facinated with colour choices here. I've always been told a warm face has to be balanced with cool shadows, but generally in these paintings, shadows (or halftones) just become a more neutral and slightly less saturated version of that colour. Any ideas? Or do my eyes need some more training?

This painting is me trying to re-adjust myself again to Painter. I started in Photoshop.

Thanks so much everyone, all the best in 2007!

01 January 2007, 12:25 PM
Roja you might want to fix that upper lip. It looks as she is angry now. However.. you've created an amazing painting! Far better than I could do :)

Magdalena, Glenn, Annette, Razz, Architectus... jee... looking at your work I realize how green I am behind the ears! ultra inspiring work you guys!

Well, I'm almost embarassed to show my own progress so far lol

obviously there is a loooot to do left

01 January 2007, 12:28 PM
I'm at the final touches.... waiting for opinions...

01 January 2007, 01:42 PM
The level of work being produced here is simply astounding!

Slowly getting back into the swing of things after the holidays: :)

01 January 2007, 02:17 PM
Eduart & NR43: Thanks for the critiques, you're probably both right on many of those points..I'm just tired of the piece at this point and need to move on. I do realize and see it's not as close to the original as it could be, and I know I could work it more if I wanted to. But I did learn new things about painting and also using painter, and those were my main goals :)

Eduart: The only small thing that stands out to me a bit are the brush strokes are too visible in some spots, maybe smooth them out more? I don't know, maybe it's better the way it is..but they seem to be a bit distracting. My eye keeps thinking for it to be really smooth, sculpture like.

NR43: It's looking good, especially the folds on the cloth, keep going with it!

RebeccaK: looks great so far!

01 January 2007, 03:28 PM
@Roja're right ... it looks more like a painting copy than like a sculture copy .. I'll try to make it smoother but is a bit hard for me because I'm always used to leave a brush stroke visible .. thanks

@Rebeccak .. wow .. incredible smooth .. so smooth that gives me an unreal feeling .. hardly wait to see it finished


01 January 2007, 04:58 PM
thanks guys - eduart - oh no probs! I actually agree with your crits whoeheartedly but I've had enough LOL and I'm not touching those two lasses any more :) They'll have to remain that way! I especially agree about them being too bright [particularly the pink one ... sigh... time to say enough I think!]

Great choice on the bg btw. black looks good!

Johan - YAY - keep going, she's looking great!

Rebeccak - awesome! If I could say one thing that annoys me - it's the fingers, they look a bit 'wavy', the shadows make them look unnatural in shape, like they're smudged out too much...

More everyone! MORE!:thumbsup:

01 January 2007, 05:07 PM
Eduard....AMAZEING JOB....I like the brushstrokes myself, and the fact that it looks like a painting of a sculpture...brings it to life,...just my opinion though...
If I were to make a suggestion would be to maybe give the upper hand in the painting a little more detail where it is wrapped around the handle of the's a little light in that spot.Maybe a little more of the top knukles of the hand showing, and the muscle between the thumb and the first finger bulging a little...might add to the strength of his grip on that handle.
maybe a little more of the wrist bone showing also.....just minor details...You have really managed to capture the power and movement, in a great way...FANTASTIC, and a real pleasure to see..

Rebecca...TOTALLY BEAUTIFUL, AND TOTALLY YOU...:bounce: ........She has the look of the Mona Lisa about it...:scream:

Magdalena....Didn't think I would, but I do like the lady in pink better than the lady in blue.
They are both beautiful paintings though, and you did a fantastic job with both..Quess I am just a sucker for those warmer colors in the pink one, the prettier smile, the subtle lighting,
and the greater depth and atmosphere you achieved with it...BEAUTIFUL WORK.. :applause:

Thanks ..Johan /NR43...Really looking forward to seeing that face, after seeing how you handled that cloth....should be great I think...:thumbsup:


Roja....For being new to PAINTER, I would say you did a FANTASTIC job on her.. can always just adjust the brightness and contrast, found in the effects section at top of menu in painter....go tothe tonal control settings there and play with the two sliders, ..will give you a darker background, and richer skin colors ect....might be worth the experiment...:)

architectus....GREAT JOB SO FAR....I think that it might benifit from some intense colors looking a little on the MUTED side ...needs a little of that neon glow in there, to make it pop with luster and life...just my personal opinion though..:scream:



01 January 2007, 05:38 PM
@Intervain ya...I know what you mean...I know the feeling... thanks

@SpiritDreamer thanks for the your suggestion...there is something not right at the hand grip..I'll fix it... thanks again


01 January 2007, 07:38 PM
Your mastery of grayscale is fenominal i could have sworn that that is a photo!
Great clothing, i`m afraid i cant really get the feel of your picture just yet because there`s no character there, i`m weird like that. But your attention th folds and values is lovely.
The colours are definitely vibrant although not quite true to the original.
The highlights around the lips and on the nose,the brow are too cold, the lips look as if she`s heavily into lipstick, i think it would be better to make them slightly lighter and place a highlight on the bottom lip a little more boldly. And another minor thing-the ear really grabs attentionas its more saturated that any other place :)
I`m doing the same piece, i`ve spent only a couple of hours on it...

01 January 2007, 08:31 PM
I continue to be amazed and impressed!

Eduart - I agree, the black background really allows the image to pop off the page. I also like to see brushstrokes. Even though we're copying, I like to see a little of the personality of the copier coming through.

I have to say, I'm really wrestling with this Carravaggio. I'm pushing myself to be more painterly with this and also to add color as I go with the paint. So - the changes are : defining the hand, adding color to the wing on the left and some of the background and beginning to add color on the figure. There are some areas where the color is dropped in, but not blended yet.

I'm up for feedback, if you would be so kind...

01 January 2007, 10:35 PM
Raja nice work

Rebeccak, cool there you are, looking good.

spiritdreamer thanks, I will try to boost the colors some. I really want to match the painting as close as possible colorwise. I am getting lazy with other stuff, it just takes to much work to get all the folds in the clothes exact, and the patterns on the clothes.

01 January 2007, 12:40 AM

I like the smile so far...captured it nicely..:thumbsup:
You are a little on the light side with your colors at the moment..I think that if you darken the values just a tad, and increase the saturation just a tad,...your colors will be pretty close to the original....done in EFFECTS...under TONAL CONTROL .../ BRIGHTNESS AND CONTRAST.
in the PAINTER #9 program that I work with,...not sure what program you are using.
On the wings, if it were mine, I would get the darkest colors in there first, and work my way up to the lights....just a thought that might be of help to you, and make your life easier...:)
Anyway, keep going,'s coming out great so far..:thumbsup:

01 January 2007, 01:26 AM
4 more days, I think I can finish. Not much left to do.

Everyone has done such a great job, makes me try harder.

01 January 2007, 01:51 AM
Now to make those peacock feathers shimmer and vibrate with luminosity...color color color...:eek: :scream: :)

01 January 2007, 01:40 PM
architectus - great to see that you've been inspired to try harder with the detail - it's looking awesome! Can't wait to see it finished :)

01 January 2007, 02:35 PM
Small update, finally starting to add jewelry: :)

01 January 2007, 03:14 PM
WOW that's stunning and that necklace truly shines :eek: You can tell it's metal :applause:

ps. have fun with the pearls :scream:

01 January 2007, 04:03 PM
Jan 7, 2007

A great adventure in learning, but I think it is time to venture on!
Calling this one DONE.

OFDW 020