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09-02-2006, 03:49 PM
mazalo I dig it, nice sketch, painter X artistic oils - wet oil brush and dry oil brush? I had a similar idea but it was natives worshiping the awakened giant. It would be cool to put some cult type symbols on the ground, with some candles maybe.

So it looks like my rock dude is just a giant beast man now. Although I might still make him less human in some way. I am not sure if I am going to stick with the archer, if I do I will put some clothes on him. I think I might go back to something like the sketch, but a different pose. I might add a female in there as well.

09-02-2006, 04:17 PM
this one not to dark . painted in painter ...

09-02-2006, 04:19 PM

09-02-2006, 05:13 PM
Here is a small update.

I have more or less tried to do the things I wrote in the last post.

This is where it is starting to get tough. I tried to change the head to make the pose of the character look more playful and gentle but it still reminds me of an action superhero (I used the sculpture at the first post as reference for the face).

I have also started painting the clouds. I think I would like to learn a way to make them more round and full.

All the sketches have interesting compositions in them. The one you have painted is the one I would have worked on as well. I think that the spear as a weapon might work a bit better that the bow in that case, but that is only a suggestion. Keep up the good work. :)

Beautiful work! I really cannot offer much advice on how to improve it, but I will tell you that I can see a grey-green-blue hue reflected on the cultist bodies that does not show anywhere else. Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me however.

09-02-2006, 05:22 PM
OPB PureGhostGR:

PureGhostGR, I like the basic sketch you have but am wondering how this tells the story of a giantess awakening from underground? I think that to fit the theme you may have to show the ground being broken (perhaps make an extended vertical composition, with the earth below and perhaps some people staring up) - part of the challenge is not only to create a finished, rendered image, but also to make the image illustrate the theme. :) I would love to an extension to your current concept which explains the story of "The Awakening of the Underground Giant". Looking forward to more!

OPB Vidar3d:

Vidar3d, it's good to see you back here. :) Atm I am confused a bit as to what is going on in the scene. The giant seems not quite awake, and he seems a bit small to be a giant - I'm also not sure what has happened with respect to the skeletal remains of what I am guessing to be other giants? Mainly there is scale confusion between the giant in the bkgrd and the female figure in the foreground. Perhaps enlarging the giant could resolve this, along with making the female figure smaller.


Welcome. :) You have a nice start here and overall I am liking your composition - the main thing is, since the theme is about Awakening, you may wish to make the giant look as though he is sleepily awakening - right now he is sleeping, which doesn't fit the theme. :) I'd like to see you push the rendering of this as far as you can, and then we can further critique it. :)

More crits to come...



09-02-2006, 05:32 PM
OPB architectus:

architectus, this reminds me a lot of illustrations I have seen by Vallejo etc. - there is one image in particular I am thinking of but can't find it. I think the main thing you want to consider is how this illustrates the concept of awakening - he is awake and fighting, but how is he awakening, or how did he awaken? Something in the image needs to explain that - perhaps an army of men who dug up a pit in the background, where it is clear he has come from - etc.

Am definitely impressed with your speed, and would love to see you push this further in terms of the drawing of both figures. I think perhaps it might be good to do a linear drawing for the giant to work out the perspective and the proportions. You might even think about doing a traditional drawing first and then scanning that, as quite often your lines will be more convincing traditionally (this just depends on how confidently you draw in the traditional medium). Looking forward to more!

OPB mazalo:

mazalo, it's great to see you back here! :) I really quite like your start to this, and am very interested to see where you take it. I think I have pointed out to you the paintings of Alex Kanevsky (,Alex&index=0&showBio=no) to you before, but this again reminds me of that loose painting style. Would love to see you keep a bit of that while rendering this and working out some of the compositional issues as well. This also has a bit of a LOTR flavor which I like. Great start, looking forward to your progress!

More crits to come...



09-02-2006, 05:42 PM
OPB Frejasphere:

Frejasphere, I like your thinking behind this, now all of it just needs to show up in the sketch. :) One artist whose work I think you will quite enjoy is Arctis. You can check out some of his fantastic work here:

I think he depicts similar themes and in a similar way, and might serve to give you inspiration. :)

OPB Knedlo:

Knedlo, Welcome! :) I think that you have an interesting first sketch here but it needs to be more fleshed out before I can offer any real critique. I think the next step is to take reference photos or to use reference photos which you find on the web - check out the first post of this thread which contains a link to justmeina's gallery, which contains copyright / royalty free nude male photos, which would be very useful for the figure of the giant. Looking forward to seeing your next step!

OPB Cyanid:

Cy, it's great to see you back here, and with such a strong sketch! Really hoping to see you take this further. The main challenge here will to be to show how and why he has awakened. I think if you think this through this will give you more interesting sketch elements which you can introduce and incorporate into your basic sketch. I'd like to see you push beyond just doing a sketch and doing a more finished piece - as far as you can take it.



09-02-2006, 06:05 PM
OPB Shaolin7:

Shaolin7, Really liking the development so far - someone's work your painting style reminds me of is beaux (, who has Don Seegmiller as a teacher in Utah.

One area that looks a bit off is the upper legs, which appear to be a bit short. I think you are aligning the knees with the hands, and the hand could acutally be extended further vertically which would allow you to do the same with the knees / upper legs.

I'm curious as to what story elements you will be adding here - he looks as though atm he is at the bottom of a cave or well, so it will be interesting to see how you incorporate the bkgrd. Definitely looking forward to more!

OPB Glenn:
Glenn, it's great to see your experimentation, and as always, a pleasure to have you here as our established Workshop veteran. :) I think this is a classic Glenn concept, and it would be more interesting, I think, if you developed it more along the lines of a painting. I look forward to seeing more.

OPB danielh68:

danielh68, it's great to see your concept, and it's very strong compositionally - the main thing I would suggest is to make the figure less completely centralized and to let the composition breathe a little more - there's such a tight framing that it's hard to escape looking at anything but the giant, and you want to have other areas of the image that people can look at, yet have the focus remain on the main subject of your picture.

I like the sort of film noir aspect to this - I'm not clear if your giant is male or female, frankly I think it would be interesting either way - sort of a female moatzilla, if you will.

Definitely interested to see how this progresses!

OPB Corvax:
David, I quite like this concept and am just waiting to see how you flesh it out. It has a very LOTR feel to it as well, which I think is quite cool - there are tons of possibilities with this, so I'm looking forward to your update.

OPB botched:

botched, it's great to see you back here, and with an interesting take on this, along with a different approach than I'd seen from you in the last OFDW - am curious to see how you develop this. The lion atm looks like water - is that the idea? I'm not quite sure of the story yet or how the lion is awakening...looking forward to seeing how you piece this together.

OPB SaraD:

SaraD, it's great to have you back as well - I'm sure you'll do a beautiful job - one thing I might recommend is expanding the canvas so that the framing is not so tight. Apart from the ship there is nothing else to show scale...I think that making the atmosphere perhaps a stormy one could be quite cool as well, as a suggestion.

OPB nards26:
nards26, this is quite a cool sketch - do you have any updates?


As well, I would enjoy seeing an update.

OPB pierceda:

pierceda, I think the key is to look at reference. Try (, and find some good reference shots which you can use. The images are royalty / copyright free.



09-02-2006, 06:23 PM
OPB Splinter:

Splinter, welcome! I think that the bkgrd needs more mountains, etc. to give the volcano a sense of scale and place. I'm looking forward to your update!

OPB Siju:

Siju, it would be great to see this developed further - I really recommend giving more breathing room to the composition. Try not to completely center your figure. As well, adding in atmospheric perspective eventually will really give you a stronger sense of depth. :)


Andy, these are great, do you have any elaborations? I particulary favor the top right guy.

OPB Vilhelmina:


Do you have any updates for us? I like the first step I think the most - would like to see you develop this. :)


I am hoping to see an update from you soon as well.


Welcome! I am curious if you might explain more about your drawing and how it fits the theme of "Awakening of the Underground Giant". It would be great to see an update.

If I've missed anyone, it has not been intentional! Keep up the good work, everyone, and keep pushing yourselves to do better work and to challenge yourselves.

And please, continue to critique one anothers' work, as this is an invaluable part of these Workshops! :)



09-02-2006, 07:28 PM
thanks rebbeca.:)

i worked more on composition and wanted to add dinamic to the painting...i kill some colors in the way, dont know are the colors better now or before...C&C welcome...

09-02-2006, 09:22 PM
wow great idea! maybe add more to the sides so both his hands are clearly visible? giving him claws or something that looks dangerous could add a lot more drama


omg this must have taken a while for you to comment on all of us
thanks for the good advice concerning "elongating" the figures.
I've changed my canvas to A4 sized which is more appealing to the eye - someone mentioned this here as a crit to someone else but it's good advise for me just as well.


Thanks, glad you like the figures. I will try to impress even more and improve them a lot (they need it ;) )

Here's an update on one of the victims anatomy. I hope I can post an update on all the others as well soon (being sick sux)

before Rebecca's valuable critics:


I used reference from Ben Miller at DeviantArt ( get the anatomy more accurate

Thanks again y'all and keep going you rock!

09-02-2006, 10:13 PM
Hi Ho

Architectus: I also vote for the spearman (you know, archers are cowards :) ). And maybe a more "evasive" pose would fits better to the giants crushing killing smashing stance, but it's just an idea. I'm really impressed by your amazing speed and unfailing enthusiasm. Keep it the way it is.

Hauntedminds: I love this one. It's really refreshing to see such a nice theme among all those dark or cruel beasts. Only those little guys with big feather trying to tickle him in a nose is missing :). Very good.

Mazalo: I liked it more the way it was, not so brownish. I would like it even more with some basic color tinge. Anyway it is very dynamic with those confident strokes of brush. I hope I will be also able to paint like this some day.

PureGhostGR: The change of her hairs was just what it needed. She gets much more lightness. Maybe more of it could be achieved by hiding her feet in a rarefied cloud or some kind of mist. But, well, Rebecca has the point with the missing theme. But I'm sure you will figure something out.

Well and something from me

It was one hell of a drawing sickness. I have been thinking about this "comparing thing" and tried to compare the giant to viewer of the image by adding the foreground plane and thus use a lot of perspective. I'm planing to work more on its right side, to add some big object maybe or something. Will see. Also it looks little "overstuffed" so I'm playing with idea to rise the top and make the giant stand (but i like the idea that even though the whole city fits in a cave he must kneel) with a lot of free space ( or not so detailed space) to couterbalance the bottom. But maybe the colors will do the trick or maybe it wont cause trouble on full size (I am heading for A3 format). But what I am really glad of is the photoshop. This is a wonderful piece of code and with wacom it is, well, can't find words. At first a was disapointed by my clumsiness but after some time i get used to it and now i can't do anything but praise it. I'm really enjoying the detailing works which were impossible at this level with traditional medias at least for me.

Please post any suggestions and advices that will cross your mind.

Keep your engines running :)

09-03-2006, 12:34 AM
NR43 saidI used reference from Ben Miller at DeviantArt ( get the anatomy more accurateQuite happy to have helped, thanks for the opportunity,

09-03-2006, 02:24 AM
Participation is ramping up even more, great to see! Very minor update from me, in response to your valuable crit observations Rebeccak:

Appreciate the feedback alot, if the left leg still looks funky as far as length please let me know. Still blocking in the right leg so it doesn't look very different but I'll see what I can do to make the lengthening more obvious if necessary. Also need to add an object / feature for scaling reference, to imply size but unsure of where or what I'll do in that regard. Keep working guys, some good things emerging and it's always really good watching the process of others. I'll save any crits for a subsequent post, right now you guys have it all well covered!

09-03-2006, 04:29 AM
Hi...Shaolin 7...:applause:

REALLY like the atmosphere your creating....can almost breath the air in your painting....:thumbsup:


09-03-2006, 04:34 AM
Vidar3d I am guessing because of the ha'nephilim on the females shield, that this is the grave-yard of the Nephilim in genesis 6. If so we know from numbers that the Anakim are of the original Nephilim,and OG was one of them, and his bed was made of steel and was 14 feet long. This gives us some idea how tall the Nephilim might have been. He does not look to far in the distance, so maybe make him a tad taller, unless you are going for about 9 feet. Cool idea.

pureghost, thanks, yeah I think I like the guy with a spear better as well, I will be working on a new pose for him. As for clouds try custom made brushes to lay down the foundation.

knedlo, hey I like your drawing, this type of fun world art has always been enjoyable to me, I cannot wait to see how the giant will look in this style. Yeah, the archer is out, however what about the archer from LOTR, he was not so much of a wimp.

rebeccak - here ( should be the Boris painting you were thinking of. I am not sure if I like the backround though. Besides I wanted to convey that he is coming out of the ground, I have not completely decided how to do that yet. Maybe volcano, then I would add the cools to the top and warms to the bottom. or a hint of a pit.

I prefer to draw in tradition medium, however my scanner broke a while ago and I have not had a chance to replace it yet. Besides digital sketching serves the purpose because I am just going to paint over it.

the story is still the same, the warrior seeks to find the legend of the sleeping giant, awake and destroy him. The giant feels the power of the warrior and it wakes him up. The giant equally wants a challange. This motif appears through out ancient mythology. Well not so much the sleeping part. Like Enkidu and Gilgamesh, and the some what sleeping giant they go search out and destroy. This story if found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, I think around tablet 7.

hmmm, now that I think about it, that would have been an awsome painting to do. Gilgamesh and Ekidu fighting the awakened forrest giant.

I was the last poster so I will just edit to add my update. Refining the overall image, I think the giant is about finished, unless there are some recomendations. You can see his cave off in the distance that he woke up from.

I am not sure what to clothe the warrior in. I was thinking a native thong, lace type shoes, and maybe warrior body paint.

09-03-2006, 01:08 PM
OPB mazalo:

mazalo, it might be nice to see the upper left area of the canvas resolved - currently that area seems pretty empty and the weight of the composition unbalanced. Perhaps slightly changing the stance of the giant would help - as well I think that your composition is very centralized so I would suggest changing your canvas size so that the viewer has more things over which to let their eyes roam. :)


Thanks for the feedback, and I appreciate your comments. :) I think your figure is definitely improved, and it would be great to see the same refinement for all the figures in your piece. Definitely look at classical greek and roman sculpture groups for inspiration. Take for example the Laocoon ( group ~ figurative work has ages of precedent, and though we're working digitally here, the same principles remain the same. Looking forward to more updates!


Wow, quite an update - the detailing thus far is really strong. :) I look forward to your rendering of the giant.

Ben / justmeina,

Welcome! :)


Looking forward to seeing the next update - the detailing of the cave should be quite cool, and I think that a scale reference object will make all the difference to the 'wow' factor.


Ah, thanks for the image link - are you using that as the basis for your inspiration? :) I quite like the detailing work you've done on the normal man's back - but I think that the giant needs a lot more work and detailing. The upper body, head, and arms are not yet convincing - and the smaller man is more detailed, despite the fact that the giant is really the focus. I would love to see you finish the giant to a high degree of detail and to work out the proportional issues - perhaps it would help to take a picture of yourself or of a friend in the same pose. :)



09-03-2006, 01:44 PM
here is another progres...

09-03-2006, 05:01 PM
Another small and confused update:

I have tried to show the concept of the dawn comming out of a the mountains a bit better. I would like to show the twisting movement and the change a bit more clear, but I am still working on the how. I have increased the canvas for the fabrics that will be a symbol for the night passing and the sun emerging from the mountains.

I think I should start working on the skin of the figure now and try to apply more shadows everywhere.

Thank you for your feedback. I was so caught up with the clouds and the colors, I lost track of the underground part of the theme. I would like to show a subtle 'emerge' from the ground if possible for the dawn. I have tried to show movement with the light and the clouds in the last draft so as to suggest rather than portray the movement of the sun rising from the mountains. Please tell me if you find that to be acceptible given the logic of my concept over the theme.

This is turning out increadible! I should really learn from your shading and use of color. The last version you posted looks very powerful and the changes with the new face are very expressive. I think I like the stone circle in the previous version a bit more because it gave me the feeling of being inside an underground temple of sorts. Also I think you would benefit if you placed the new left arm of the giant (our right) facing upwards towards the ceiling (like trying to reach out?). Just an idea.

I like the idea of the giant being on his knees. It underlines the fact that everything is underground and in my opinion and also it looks like the giant is watching over the village as a protector of sorts. I can already imagine a version of the circular buildings and their lattern lighting, which makes me feel that this will turn out beautiful.

Very expressive and emotional work. I simply love it. There are so many details visible on the rocks and this is still a work in progress! The only constructive comment I can provide is about the horn/wing on the far back. Something about it's placement troubles me in relation to the front one. Maybe it should be moved a bit lower? Again, just a suggestion.

Thank you for the suggestion with the brushes. I really should try to make some of my own at some point.
The update is looking great! (and what speed!) The muscle structure of the human figures back is brilliant! Keep up the great work!

09-03-2006, 06:06 PM
PureGhostGR: thanks...well, I tryed that with the hand up before ( see the picture) but i decided not to go with that...:)

09-03-2006, 06:15 PM
sorry here isd the picture i was saying in the last post some problems with photo bucket..:)

09-03-2006, 11:24 PM
here is the latest...and that is all for today...

...I worked on background and the floor...add new hornes...
...and I think that it is geting close to finish...

09-04-2006, 01:00 AM
Sept 3, 2006

Hi Rebecca
I don't think this concept and painting can be done with a traditional painterly look. Seems to lose the magic the more I paint it the way I think that you think it should be painted...
What do you think? I like the top one best. closer to the vision I envision. Open for suggestions from you and anyone else

09-04-2006, 05:14 AM
spirit dreaming I like the bottom one.

Alright thanks everyone, I think I am about ready to call this finished. I might add some bright highlights to the spear, I do not want to over work the rocks, because I do not want them to distract the eye. I want the eye to go between the giant and the warrior.

I do not like the upper part of his face. I might completely redue that. I think some of the abs might need more highlights. I will look it over and see what needs to be fixed up here and there, but I am not going to spend to much more time on it. I will wait to see if there are any last ideas before I work on it more.

09-04-2006, 09:16 AM

mazalo: Well it seems the background made all the diference. Very nice.

spiritdreamer: I like the second one most, but also the first one. Maybe some combination of those. Those blured hairs looks great. It's up to you.

architectus: Very well refined. Giant's pectoral muscles seems a bit odd to me, but i supose you used some reference for it, so it probably be all right. Anyway great piece.

And for my image. I've finally sketched the giant and he's in a grat shape it seems :). I don't want to refine him till I get some feedback, so please make any suggestions, especially paintovers will be appreciated. I can see his head is too small and this will be overdone and also the sleeping face is too relaxed paying attention to him bearing such a weight. Well here it is.

09-04-2006, 09:19 AM
hi Rebeccak
after studying your repaint carefuly I decided to start over from scratch...and I just keep wondering how much help looking at a reference photo is... (I had to get one of justmeinaīs in the end as none of my friends would pose for me):)
Iīd like to add more life to the image - perhaps some birds and scared shepherd running away. I also think the giant still does't look evil enough...
Thank you thousand times for making me redraw this:thumbsup:
Knedlo: welcome,good to see more czech participation here:thumbsup: can't wait to see yours done, I really like your drawing and sense of detail (wish I could draw like that...), but I canīt give you any comments or crits as Iīm fairly new to this myself. well,later

09-04-2006, 10:17 AM
You are right about the abs on my giant, the upper ads to twist a bit to match the chest, I should fix it.

Here are a few of my ideas. His right arm seems to far out, which would be unconfurtable to hold something like that, so I moved it in a bit. I tilted his head down, although I did not draw the face to match the angle corretly, but you get the idea. I dig your drawing a lot. Would be very cool to see it painted with lots of bright colors, purples, greens, it reminds me of that type of art.

click here ( is one of the artist I had in mind.

hladek, maybe add some more little roots to the tree and dirt chuncks, and have a few of the little roots still in the ground. also perhaps a few roots on the giant as rebeccak recomended. I running away person would be cool.

09-04-2006, 10:56 AM
spiritdreamer: I think that the top one looks better :)

knedlo: the drawing looks carefull with the colors and the painting :)

09-04-2006, 02:58 PM
Sept 4, 2006

On my painting. my thought is to take it back to the very beginning, a time before there were gods created by men, and who KILL, THINK, AND ACT like men do...
I want to take it back to when there was only the MOTHER... EARTH


Take Care

09-04-2006, 03:56 PM
l will end my ref soon, and then l will begin to paint portrait ...

09-04-2006, 06:52 PM
OPB PureGhostGR:

PureGhostGR, this is developing into a lovely piece...I'll be really interested to see how you render this - lovely effects so far. How you choose to interpret the theme is of course up to you - I think that so long as you create a piece that is satisfying to you in terms of relationship to the theme, you're doing the right thing.

OPB mazalo:

mazalo, it would be nice to see the torso of the giant more refined...and the lighting effect unified and intensified. The background has certainly added a lot! It would be nice to see this pushed to a higher degree of rendering - I look forward to your updates!

OPB architectus:

architectus, I am happy to try another paintover if you wish - there are lots of things I like about this so far, but I think you could really tighten the figure of the giant for more impact. One thing that I think needs to be corrected is the center line of the body, which seems to be a bit off in places. Your speed is great - I'd love to see you finish one of these. :)

OPB Glenn:

Glenn, I think this is the best resolution for your piece so far; the yellow seems a bit bright / blown out, but I'm starting to like some of the deep blues of the legs and of areas like the hair. I know what you mean about the painting bit, and I think you should leave this one as is. It will be nice to see you do more paintings again, I miss seeing those.

OPB Knedlo:

Knedlo, before offering to do an overpaint, I'd like to suggest that you look at / use reference from justmeina's gallery, whose link is posted to the first link of this thread. There are many great male reference photos there which I think you will find useful.

I'm happy to do overpaints when people get stuck, but right now I think you just need to use reference and refine your figure. I look forward to seeing your update!

OPB HladekStepan:

HladekStepan, your update is really heads above your previous piece - quite a big improvement, that is really great to see. :) I would recommend starting to detail and add shadow where the earth overhangs his head, and details to the grass, etc. A great reference source is pbase photo galleries:

Of course you can't plagiarize imagery, but it certainly helps to get ideas by browsing photo galleries for colors, textures, etc. Looking forward to your update as well.

EDIT: Also, I don't think you need to make the giant evil. That's not a requirement. In fact, I find the fact that this sleepy giant is reaching benignly for a tree as a snack to be pretty charming. :)


imperioli, welcome! Is your piece going to be entirely 3D? Nice start here.

Nice to see everyone's progress here - please keep it up.



09-04-2006, 11:42 PM
haveing fun looking at all the work this is my update . thomas

09-05-2006, 04:58 AM

Cleaning things up a bit and refining some of my brush work. Theres still lots more to be done. The gash isnt very convincing so I'll need to work on that... I may add some kind of light emitting from it. Right now Im just taking my time... I already know more or less what the final image will look like in my head. More updates in the next few days. - J

09-05-2006, 08:30 AM


Did you paint/edit the continents on the globe?
Because I just can't take my eyes off how you painted/edited the continents on earth - that is so damn beautiful.

09-05-2006, 09:07 AM
My purpose is to create a portrait of dignitary who lived in lithania : ALBERTAS GOSTAUTAS ( XV a.)
Nothing else is left about him, except one picture:
( ( )

3d just for references...

09-05-2006, 11:13 AM
THANK YOU EVERYONE for the great feedback, support, and encouragement on the
EARTHSPIRIT // SPIRITEARTH painting and concept that I just fininshed..:thumbsup:
I hope that I have been of some help to you also, on your journies into the unexplored parts and unknown realms of your imaginations...this last exercise has been a lot of fun for me,
a chance to set my spirit free...and like the homeing pigion, it always comes back to where it came from....SEE YOU ALL ON THE NEXT JOURNY....:)

Rebecca....LOL....The light from the sun will always burn your retna's out, if you stare at it too long....:scream: ....Don't give up on me yet,..I still love to paint in the traditional manner...just curious ..thats all...:)

THANKS....MR MU...:thumbsup: .....Those continents and her hair, were painted using the Liquid Metal
brush in Painter #9....Set the transparency slider almost all the way to the right of scale, and
it is like painting with Liquidfied Glass....:bounce: :scream:

Submitted this painting to the 2D finished section....WAS REJECTED...MUST HAVE BEEN SOMETHING I SAID...LOL...:scream:


09-05-2006, 12:13 PM
great stuff everyone!!! Darn I wish I had my computer with me :(

MechaHateChimp ( :bounce: - love your idea and execution :)

mazalo - great concept - kinda reminds me of Doctor Who but I'm a geek so don't mind me :) I agree about refining the torso area


09-05-2006, 12:56 PM
Hi All :)

wonderful giants and giantesses emerging here :) :thumbsup:

Thankyou Rebecca for your awesome crits... time devotion and sheer stamina to keep up with all the work coming through this thread, and on top of that to post helpful, constructive and supportive comments :bowdown: I had a look at Arctis work; wonderful! so thank you for letting me know.

Glenn: wow! I love your Earthspirit! She's looking wonderfully peaceful and full of movement and colour at the same time. I really like the ones where you have the moon in the painting... It just seems to add that extra dimension. Well done!!

MechaHateChimp: I like the colours you're working with - the red tones have a real sense of rage... Will be exciting to see where you go from here

Mazalo: I like the concept you are working with... wondering if the conjurers are pleased or very scared at what they just lured out of the pit (and sorry if you've mentioned it before)? The way you've thrown his head back seems to be working better (making him less central), and the setting with the background is looking great. looking forward to seeing more.

Architectus: You have certainly been (still are) on a massive journey with this one :) The giant's teeth are looking fearsome enough! Rebecca has already pointed out a few areas that I'm sure will come together for you, so keep it up and enjoy!

HladekStepan: I like your giant.. Your style reminds me a bit of Paul Seurat... not in imagery, but more the clean areas and colours. You are right in that he doesn't look that frightening at the moment.. more content. If you did want him more angry-looking; straightening the eye & dropping the angle of the mouth a little... might help achieve that :) Keep it up and looking forward to seeing where you take it.

Knedlo: Interesting concept.. will be interesting to see where you take it from here, and how your giant and landscape develop as you keep working.

danielh68: Great "Giant" feeling about your setting, the miniscule people and the close-up of his face.. I like the colours too and can't wait to see more!

There are so many great ones here... so even without comments on all: big thumbs up!

After a bunch of sketches, some which were done in the backyard on a windy day (the cyclone manifestation *scream*, I've started working on the actual drawing for my awakening earthmother giantess... as she comes out of the sea morphing into a cyclone... It's all traditional, so charcoal and graphite at this stage on A2 size thick paper. Rough at this stage.. but atleast it's a start

Cheers all and take care
a. :)
PS - her top hand actually fits in the drawing, just not in the photo.... :scream:

09-05-2006, 01:29 PM
Hello all! Finally back to CGTalk after a silly absence based on a wrist injury and Life-in-general. Coming to the party a little late but I'll see what I can do...

My first thought when I saw the title was something along the lines of Cthulhu.

"that he but seemeth dead, he sleeps, and yet he does not sleep, he has died and yet he is not dead, asleep and dead though he is, he shall rise again. Again it should be shown that

That is not dead which can eternal lie,
and with strange aeons even death may die."
--H.P. Lovecraft--

As I put on some good adventure music, it took me along the lines of not only Pulp Horror but Pulp Adventure as well. And below is what I came up with...

The adventurers in our story, in simply trying to escape the clutches of the fiendish madman andhis cultists that wanted the crystal our heroine carried, crawl through the darkened catacombs and ancient caves deep underneath the earth. Coming upon a massive room they find an ancient stone statue of something asleep. Or is it a statue...

More to come...

09-05-2006, 03:58 PM
Another update from me:

I would like to redraw the hands and feet with a reference, but I will leave them like that for now.

I can see that there are mistakes in the shading and anatomy of the figure (both in the body and face) but I feel like I have gone too far to go back and randomly try to fix things. I am having second thoughts about the art nouveau outlines with the figure, still I am glad I got this far with this.

The more I look at this, the more I realise the need to work with shadows (and to start building from dark to light instead of the opposite while painting). I will work on making the 'rising out of the mountains' part more obvious now.

Paintovers and pointers on what to fix would be great and highly appreciated.

09-05-2006, 07:26 PM
Hi again

HladekStepan: Hi man, I'm also glad that there are two of us from our small country. Thanks for compliment, but more than in my sense of detail it is in photoshop's zooming capability. Actually I'm new too so please feel free to criticise my work (and I think that no one will be angry with you making polite suggestions on their pieces, because the more critique the better.) As I wrote in my first post here this is actualy the first painting I'm trying to make (well to be honest five years ago, back at elementary, we have art classes, so it is a little lie :) ), but, for about half-year I am eagerly consuming every artistic tutorial I encounter, so I can only recomend this to you, because before that half-year I wasn't able to draw/paint anything. All the people here at CGTalk are so polite, nice and willing to help and this place is stuffed by valuable resources so that if you want you can became an excelent artist here. Just needs a strong will. And for your painting I like those clear gradients of color especialy on the skies. I also think you don't need to make your giant evil. I see him more like clumsy, good hearted old fella, little dizzy after a long sleep. But it is up to you what he'll became. Good work so far.:thumbsup:

Architectus: Thanks a lot for your time. I've corrected his shin (?) and also moved his arm little towards your suggested position, but not all the way because I want his arms to be spread as far as it is possible to strenghten his superior position. The head is redone completely. So thanks again and good luck with yours

SpiritDreamer: Well done:thumbsup:. Very dreamy.

Imperioli: Hi, curious what it will turn to.

Rebeccak: Yeah you are right. I just want it checked if it is OK so far. I've actualy used some bodybuilders photo from Maybe i will be in need of your help tomorow, because I was trying to draw his left hand whole day without even a tiny succes. I'm going to borrow a digital camera from friend to take my hand as reference, but if that won't help... it will be your tur.:) Thanks anyway.

hauntedminds: Very well, but i must admit i liked the previous peacefull version more. Hey I just figured out he looks like a friend of mine.

MechaHateChimp: Very good, I think the light would be exciting. Eager to see.

Frejasphere: Thanks. And good work. Hope to see you in another worskhop. Hold on:thumbsup:

CoyoteGuy: Hi, looking forward to see it in colors.

PureGhostGR: Nicely smooth. I see the problem in all the limbs are to much cilinder-like, with actualy no muscles on them. I know it is a gentle godess and not any kind of muscular warrior but even the gentlest beauties has more shapes on them. I don't think you have gone too far ( well in my beginer's enthusiasm with photoshop, i think there is nothing like too far with it's 100% ereaseability) and you know, it is about learning here, so my suggestion is you could try to add more shapes on her. Anyway it turning out very nice, so don't give up.

And well for me. I've started to adding color, and I have to disappoint all those who wanted them bright and lot. I have chosen a simple scheme. I want to introduce a lot of those lights in the city and also I'm playing with idea to make the giant's crystal hairs and beard a light source too. I will see. So here it comes

Have fun, everyone!
Sorry for those long senteces ( surely with a lot of mistakes in them) it is my bad habbit from czech.

09-06-2006, 05:19 AM

Playing with layout a little. I extended the canvas a bit I added the swords on the foreground character. Added a sickle instead of a whip to the giant for the time being... Im still debating whether to keep it or experiment with something else. Forground character detailing is next.

09-06-2006, 05:56 AM

I haven't commented much on yours, I hope you don't mind if I give a few constructive crits. :) I think that the demon's left arm still looks stiff / a bit unnatural. The upper arm seems too small / short for the size of the torso, which has a heroic aspect. The head seems small and the neck a bit large I think. I would suggest scaling the head larger and just seeing what looks right. I still think that enlarging the canvas, if only to give you the work area to work out the full figures would be really helpful, even if you don't include the full figures in the final composition. To really determine the balance of the figures and the full gestural motion, I think that sketching at least the ghost of the full figures would be really useful for making the spatial relationships work. Also I think giving more room to the top of the canvas will allow the figure of the giant to breathe.

Just some suggestions, and my 2 cents. :)

Back later with more comments...



09-06-2006, 06:33 AM

I haven't commented much on yours, I hope you don't mind if I give a few constructive crits. :) I think that the demon's left arm still looks stiff / a bit unnatural. The upper arm seems too small / short for the size of the torso, which has a heroic aspect. The head seems small and the neck a bit large I think. I would suggest scaling the head larger and just seeing what looks right. I still think that enlarging the canvas, if only to give you the work area to work out the full figures would be really helpful, even if you don't include the full figures in the final composition. To really determine the balance of the figures and the full gestural motion, I think that sketching at least the ghost of the full figures would be really useful for making the spatial relationships work. Also I think giving more room to the top of the canvas will allow the figure of the giant to breathe.

Just some suggestions, and my 2 cents. :)

Back later with more comments...



Hi Becca,

Thanks for the crits!
Ive messed around with the proportions of the head as you suggested a but Im pretty happy with where its at right now. The left arm definitely needs work and I'll be working on correcting it along with other parts of the image as I get to them. Im just working on little bits here and there and just taking my time... It still needs alot of work but I think things will start to pull together as I get closer to finishing the final image. :)

09-06-2006, 12:40 PM
Here is an update. I changed the horns, abs, eyes, and a few other things I fixed, and updated the rocks.

09-06-2006, 02:45 PM
Spirit - I am really digging your giant. That is amazing with the liquid glass paint. Makes me want to do more experimenting.

Ghost - I like the direction you took yours. Very flowing, not over powering and dark. I assume you are going to place planets and stars in it?

Maz - I like the way you depicted some cultures worships. I think you have really have defined the theme Reb asked for. Good job.

09-07-2006, 08:52 AM
You might get some inspiration for scale, motion, imagination,...ect. by checking out this site.
Will give you a different perpective on the way this giant concept can be handled and created.:) (


09-07-2006, 09:47 AM
Hi all :)

Another update...
kept working since photo, so need to take more pics ;)

Take care all :)
a. :)

09-07-2006, 10:42 AM
You might get some inspiration for scale, motion, imagination,...ect. by checking out this site.
Will give you a different perpective on the way this giant concept can be handled and created.:) (


holy shit, glenn... thanks a lot for this pointer... wonderful artist!


09-07-2006, 06:02 PM

I think things look better - I would still say that the area that needs the most work are the arms and hands. What do you think?


Hey there, I like this update - and am happy to point out a few areas with an overpaint if you would like. :)



09-07-2006, 06:25 PM
:eek: OUCH ! So many great updates here...

Thanx a lot Rebecca for the in deapth feedback :)
btw whats the deadline of this contest? :/

09-07-2006, 08:19 PM
OFDW 019: Monday, August 21 - Tuesday, September 12th, 2006

That's next tuesday OMG lol

Well, I had a long struggle today to give my Deimos character a more dynamic pose...
2 done, 5 to go before I can start painting... Think I'll have to ask my boss for a week off and work 24hrs a day if I want to finish this in time eheh

architectus will your giant be holding something in his hands?
MechaHateChimp that's coming along nicely! any idea about a background? Maybe some additional light source from the back would increase the drama and make the silhouet of your giant more present (unless that is exactly what you want to avoid :) )

09-08-2006, 10:11 AM
got a little break from the giant this week:-)
I'd tend to call this finished, but there's always something to I won't
It might be nice to add a few birds or st-but I wouldn't want to distract the viewer and fill the image with too much small detail ( I probably did already) :shrug:
MechaHateChimp: I like yours - reminds me of the works of ElGreco (colors and tall figures).

Knedlo: hey man, can't wait to see them lights up and shining;-)

Frejasphere: nice dynamics. looks like she got awakened in a really unpleasant way too:)

Architectus: giantsome (:-)), dynamic - great job!

Rebeccak: thanks again for advice - this workshop is just awesome:thumbsup:

09-08-2006, 05:31 PM
Hi Rebecca, thanks for the comments. They were very useful and, as result, enhanced the composition. First, I extende the canvas to the right, thus moving the giant's head left of center. With the extra real estate on the right, I expanded the story line and depth by including two characters in the near foreground. I like the adjustments and will spend whatever time available just to polish it. Thanks, again :)

09-08-2006, 05:49 PM

You're welcome! :)

I really like the adjustment, and think that the addition of the two characters adds a much more expansive sense of depth. One thing you might consider is making the figures a bit larger / and have them running at a more frantic pace or nearly jumping out of the frame. I'd think they would be much more frenzied at the sight of such a monster clinging to the side of the bridge.

Do you plan to render this further, or keep your piece as a sketch? I am really liking the direction, and look forward to your update. :)

More comments soon...



09-08-2006, 07:43 PM
Daniel that piece is absolutely awe-inspiring. It's extremely well done and I simply love your style. I think that it would look really awesome though if the two foreground characters were frantically running away--with the girl stumbling over--bent forward with a few small rocks rolling away. Also, since they appear to be in a tunnel of some sort (correct me if I'm wrong) perhaps they should be a lot darker with greenish outline almost from the outside light and then just a bare glow from some small light sources in the tunnel. I may just be crazy but the people in the painting just seem like they're walking, not running. Once again, spectacular piece, excellent composition, great colors, and a very much horrifying giant. I love the small purple accents which really bring out the green.

09-09-2006, 12:49 AM
UrbanKunoichi & Rebeccak, Thanks :)

I made the couple a little bit more dynamic which looks much better than the previous version. I could push it further, but a comic book style of action would not be fitting for the piece. At least, in my mind. I kind of like the fact that she's awkwardly climbing up the rubble while looking at the terror behind her. In any case, your suggestions are really valuable and I think the piece has benefitted from it. Now, hopefully, I can find time over the weekend to polish it up :)

09-09-2006, 10:55 AM
daniel right on man, fantastic work. To me the style is a comic book cover, so totally exagerating characters would fit the style in my oppenion, however I like how it is right now. The girl in the red dress might have a curious personality, and the guy could care less and is trying to get then out of there.

Although, the characters add color to the painting, maybe try to dull their colors to the same purples and greens in the painting, just to see what it looks like. I take it there is a red light to the the mans left.

excelent work, I look foward to seeing how it turns out. I actually like the way it is right now.

09-09-2006, 12:20 PM
refined hands, I do not want them to detailed. Redid face after looking at some comic books, pitt inspired me to change it up a bit.

I might work on the right side of the ground, maybe add a few bones, or possibably an animal companion of the warrior, a wolf perhaps.

09-09-2006, 04:11 PM

Tried a few things with the colors and the shadows. I liked the previous colors more but I also like the contrast with this version.

I will try to remove the fabrics because I honestly don't think I have enough time to find references or paint them all before the deadline.

09-09-2006, 05:43 PM
hi all...

...think this is it, I think this is finished...I need to sleep on it and see...what do you think ?

09-09-2006, 06:06 PM

Looks FANTASTIC to me....BEAUTIFUL JOB painting it....really like the lighting....DRAMA..:applause:

Hi...Architectus....I did a paintover of your piece...corected arms, hips, leg, center line of figure ect......I like the drama of your piece, easy corections....If you want me to post my paintover
of your piece, let me know .....Paintovers are a great way to learn from each other, and are a lot clearer to understand, than words....:)

PureGhost GR ...I did a paintover of yours also....Will post it also ...if you want me to...let me know....:)


09-09-2006, 06:07 PM

I like your careful reevaluation of your figures - I think if that is what you get out of this Workshop, then you've gotten a lot which you can use in this and future pieces. :)


Very nice revision! You are most welcome, it has been a pleasure to see your progress. I like the unity you've brought to the image with the color / adjustment layer - I would still recommend detailing the grass a bit, and adding a few very selective highlights. A few of the edges around the giant's wrist are a little sharp - I think if you spend just a bit more time with this, you can really polish it up. :)


Looks better! I think you might want to make clear what the giant is looking at - if the giant is specifically looking at the fleeing couple or just at the scene in general. Looking forward to seeing your final!


I like your revisions, I would say that there are still a few suggestions that I might make for the giant - if you like, I can do a paintover, but of course won't if you don't wish me to. :)


I think this is looking good, what I would suggest is perhaps deepening the overall skintone of the figure a bit so that you have more value range to play with - look at images of lightskinned individuals, you will see that value wise there are areas that are quite dark. I suggest using a broader range of values so that your figure looks more dimensional. :) Also, I would suggest adding a bit of blue to the mountains to suggest depth and atmospheric perspective - and also to play against the dominant orange hued scheme of your piece.


I think this is looking great - I think if you added a bit of saturated yellow here and there, it might really set off the purple you have in the smoke - perhaps there could be more yellow in the steam of the pit and reflected on the cobblestones, etc. Looking good, I anticipate your final piece.

Great stuff all, I look forward to everyone's updates! :)



09-09-2006, 10:19 PM
wow so many great works here O:

Hladek, It's great to see the improvement in your giant! is looking so much better, I love those little sheeps :D

NR43, your figures look better now that you have defined their shapes.

Architectus, Now that you changed the face of the giant it loos so much more scary.

Danielh, that's an amazing painting! O:

Mazalo, I'm liking your piece a lot, I think Rebecak is right about the yellows here and there, I think it would add a little bit more of life

PureGhost, The pose is so beautiful, I love the colors of the background, though I liked her more when she had darker skin, that's just my personal opinion :)

Well here is my giant, I worked more on the background and added more contrast. (Does it look too dark? I have a very old monitor and the colors sometimes look very different :/ )

D: Help is always appreciated.

09-10-2006, 03:29 AM
Another Update before finishing :D not much time to go - so better get a move on :)
I changed her arm and added more detail to her face and body... still working on the hair, background and shading of her body, so things keep changing as I go ;) Hopefully get there in time...

Opps! Rebecca: so sorry I missed your comments - been a mad week and lots of work to finish, so only been popping in very briefly... always appreciate feed-back :)

Mazalo: Looks great! you've done really well with the atmosphere and the scene setting. I like the white light in your giant - very effective! Well done!

Danielh68: I like the way you have your giant just about to pluck the fleeing couple... putting them in the foreground added a lot of drama to the painting and allows the eye to move past the giant. Well done and looking forward to seeing the finished piece.

HladekStepan: Looking good, I don't believe you have added too many distractions.. and even adding a bit more detail isn't going to take away anything from the painting; possibly just add that sense of refinement. You've done really well with this so far!

Talaria, Architectus, PureGhost, shyamshriram, NR43... good work and looking forward to seeing your finished pieces :)

take care all
a. :)

09-10-2006, 05:53 AM

Hope this little paintover helps - bear in mind, these are only suggestions. :) The main thing I would recommend is just elongating the legs and also just giving the torso a more overall sense of flow by lengthening the lines of the side that stretches, and contracting / pinching the lines of the side that is being compressed:

I also really recommend looking at Greek / Roman sculpture, for example the Laocoon Group, for examples of figures that exhibit twisting:

For everything we do, there is a precedent. :)


I can do a paintover as well if you like tomorrow. :)



09-10-2006, 07:41 AM
Thanks for offer Rebecca :)

This is another update... see how I go, might be one more today if I have the time...
I notice that as I'm taking photos and trying to correct the angle of the easel with the camera (that's probably got more to do with me standing in a strange bent way than the camera :D ), things look a little different in the pic than on the drawing... and some of the shading looks fainter... will try to take a proper pic when it's finished.
cheers all and take care
a. :)

09-10-2006, 01:22 PM said it was ok to do paintovers of your work...which is great..:thumbsup:
Alot easier to show, than to tell...a picture is worth a thousand words ...:)
This is the way I was example.
Study the intensity of Boris's colors, how he brings background colors into the figures, and his use of deep shadows ect.
I did a few corections on your giant figure...the main thing is the peanut shape of the torso and pelvic area is missing in your figure...he is missing the hips, which are the bottom shape of the peanut. I ajusted the arms and the one leg closest to warrior. Corected the center line from pit of neck, to groin....Made area concave on upper stomack muscles, where ribcage protrudes and envelopes the stomach muscles....made hands a little bigger.
Hope this helps some...I like your painting alot...would like to see it taken further...:thumbsup:


Left is original..right is paintover

09-10-2006, 05:53 PM
thanks for the paint over spirit.

anyone can do paintovers on any of the work I post, it is welcomed.

I decided to do a quick painting, more for practice than anything else. I am going with the other giant, but I thought this would bring a different interpretation to the awaking of the underground giant.

I never really painted anything under water, so I think this is my first real attempt. Reference of a purple octopus used from yahoo images. I changes the shape and over all lighting though.

09-10-2006, 05:56 PM
Thank you everyone for your really helpful feedback. Rebeccak I have tried my best to follow your guidelines and I am grateful for them.
SpiritDreamer I would love to see the paintover you mentioned if you also wish to share it.


Quite a change from the previous version, I know.

I tried to focus on the art nouveau concept more and cut off the parts that I wouldn't be able to paint ufor the deadline.

09-10-2006, 06:18 PM

You've really inspired me a lot! :)

I did a review previously, but had not posted - so here are two different versions, both just food for thought:

>>Large image link<< (

More comments soon...

Please Note:

EDIT: Everyone please note that while the Workshop officially ends on Tuesday, this thread will never actually close. So for those who wish to further work on their pieces, you are more than welcome to continue posting here.

Having said that, as with all OFDWs, I highly encourage people to stick to the given time frame and to move on to the next Workshop. The strength of the OFDWs is in working as a group, and I personally prefer to critique work in a group environment. But everyone is welcome and encouraged to also continue to refine their pieces and post both here and to a Personal Sketchbook Thread. :)



09-10-2006, 06:52 PM
thanks rebeccak, I like the top one, however I think I burnt my self out on the particular paiting. I might do another version in the future sometime as a personal project, using your sketch over, but for now I am going to pretty much call it finished. I will be posting my final image before the 12th.

Hey, that only gives ya two days reb, I hope to see you post what you have done on your painting.

there are several peoples work I really wanted to see, but I have not seen them post an update in a while. maybe they are waiting to post their finished work instead.

09-10-2006, 07:52 PM
Hi...PureGhost GR
I like your version below....has that style you were aiming for at the beginning of this journy,ART NOUVEAU, and it is a much better composition..:thumbsup:
Your vision of beauty needs that magical vivid color of a PARISH painting..just my opinion though....I think she should reflect the colors of the atmosphere she represents. It makes her seem more SPIRIT of the sunrise, than mortal flesh..just a thought.
Hope this helps some..:)

left is original...right is paintover

09-10-2006, 09:39 PM
pure ghost, I really like what you got going on here. It is turning out to be one of my favorite concepts. Here are some recomendation of mine.

I added details here and there over her body. Added some ribs showing a bit to get rid of the to smooth look she had. Added details in her hands, wrist, ankle. Personally I like it better with out the outline around her, so I removed it in many places just to see what it looked like. I adjusted the colors just a tad here and there to add more yellows from the backround.

I was not sure what you planed to do with the cloth, so I did a quick paint over to show what it would look like using many colors from the backround and her skin tone.

I adjusted the moutain top and tried a version with snow. I did not spend much time on any of this, so the snow is very ruff. I think it helps the whole painting give a sense to the cool side of her body.

I made her shoulder a little smaller. Maybe look at a few refernces to adjust her boobs just a tad.

Looking great, I am not the best digital painter, so not sure how much my ideas will help.

09-10-2006, 09:55 PM
Okay, I think I am just going to call this done, and realize I do not have the digital skillz I would like to have. Practice, practice, and more practice perhaps will get me there. Thanks for your help everyone.

09-10-2006, 10:34 PM
Hi all,

another quick update... think I'm staring too much at this at the moment.. and with the wind and the rain howling outside the workshop, feels like I'm living it a bit too much as well :D
I changed her face a bit and a few other details... The only reference I've used for this is sort of myself... or a photo of the pose... with some distinctive alterations ;)

Architectus, I know the burn-out feeling... you might come back to it, but so far you've pushed this project really well with flow of ideas and testing things, it pays off :)

PureGhost, I like the way you've brought dawn forward and given her more detail... it's got a nice feel about it - well done! :)

09-11-2006, 12:58 AM
this one is a little more dark

09-11-2006, 03:40 AM
architectus: I really have to commend you on the effort and enthusiasm you've shown. You've displayed a great deal of maturity and objectivity in absorbing all of the observations and critique, and applying them to the work. Your main entry looks much better compositionally and your speed is remarkable, really. Did you see Glenn's nice paintover to heighten colours and details? Good stuff, there. I'm even digging your octopus entry; big thumbs up man!

Talaria, I like your sketch alot, will you have the time to paint it up? The upturned face and the roots surrounding the form would make for an interesting visual, and would let you go in and put in some great details.

Frejasphere, another fun idea and you did it using traditional materials too, wow. I wish I had commented earlier, but there are so many posts and you don't always get a chance to respond to absolutely every entry. It would have been great to see a fuller shot, less cropped in so we could see her rising up out of the sea. Were you using some sort of kneadable eraser or smudge pen, to pick out highlights and shading? Your hands must have been black if you were using your fingers!

Pureghost, I hope you are polishing this one up right now, a nice ethereal / dream-like interpretation, cool stuff. It certainly does bring to mind Mucha's painted women, with the way you've laid things out. I also have problems working from light to dark, and have tried switching things up from either dark to light or midtones and working out both ways (I think in one of his tutorials, Craig Mullins worked this way). I like the idea you have, with her hair breaking the "frame" like that. The detailing on her face is well done as well! Good stuff my friend.

HladakStepan, also a nice job revising your work based on the crits you received, the improvement is quite dramatic in relation to your original. Good for you, I encourage you to keep up the drawing and painting = ). You picked up on fading stuff to the background and keeping the detail for main areas, maybe you're working right now on the lighting and shadows?

Knedlo, nice pencil work! It has an illustrative feel to it, particularly the city, though there are some issues with the giant's anatomy? The base colours you chose are a nice start, looking forward to the finished entry.

Danielh, impressive work (I also took the opportunity to scan your personal WIP thread, good stuff there!)! The additional figures in the fore really increases the sense of drama in the picture as well. Really looking forward to seeing your finished painting.

Mazalo, that's a really nice job on the underlit figure, though personally I liked the giant with the upstretched arms better. I agree with Rebeccak, some splash of colour would really make it pop more if you added some to the pit, had it affect the stones surrounding the well, etc. Also, the back of the one small figure facing the viewer should probably be darker, as the lighting appears to come solely from the well? It's good work, only a few things to polish up to make it really stand out.

For me, this is near to finished I think. I am not sure if I should tighten up too much on the background, as it might distract even more than I want it to; just poor composition on my part but a good learning process. We'll see about polishing up or not over the next couple of days, I had thought of adding some chains maybe and putting in proper wings but not sure if there is time to do it the way I want. Pureghost, thanks alot for pointing out the wings positioning, I've hopefully changed it so it makes more sense anatomically. I don't know if anyone but me realizes that white thing is a dove flying above = ). Is that enough to create a sense of scale, do you think? Also went overboard on the rock detailing, and not too sure on the depth of focus for the rocks. We'll see, I guess:

09-11-2006, 06:30 AM
shaolin thanks, the octopus was just for practice, I only spent an hour, tops, on it.

I like the rocks, that is my favorite part, I can tell you spent some time on those babies, they look sweet. The dove is so far in the backround that it does not give me a sense of scale for the giant. Maybe put a crow in the forground next to the giant somewhere. Dove-crow, good-evil?

I hope you at least throw some quick wings in there and do as much as you can before the dead line. Then polish it up later on. Are you going to add more hues to the devil? I think this is my favorite, will have to see what makes the dead line to be sure though. But for right now, you got my vote.

09-11-2006, 11:17 AM
Thanks Shaolin7 for your comments :) and well done on yours :thumbsup: .. looking forward to seeing the finished piece. Yes my hands have been very black lately.. I use my fingers a lot when I draw, and a bit of soft eraser, blue-tac and paper-smudge pen, anything at hand really.. fine sandpaper works well for some bits too. I agree with you on the cropping, I was in two minds about what format to draw her... either pushed back into the water further or more close-up... in the end I went for the closer one, wanting to focus on size and expression...

I think this is more or less it...

Concept: The Earthmother Giantess of the Sea awakens in despair at what humankind has done to nature... reaching out of the ocean she morphes into a cyklone rising up and spiralling with force, although that force in itself is destructive, it's not governed by her anger - it's a chain-reaction to what we, as humans have brought on by neglecting earth and forcing the giantess to awaken...

Drawing (traditional) charcoal and graphite done on thick paper - size 55x75cm

And just for fun, I altered the values in the photo...

I think if I work on it any more it's just going to be fiddling around endlessly... it's been a great concept project and I've enjoyed it, interestingly the weather has really been living up to this idea, with torrential rain and gail force winds, oh and the full moon as well ;)

cheers all and take care
a. :)

09-11-2006, 12:47 PM
Hi all,

Just wanted to pop in briefly to say that the Workshop goes til the end of the day Tuesday - whenever that is for you, depending on your timezone. :)

It's great to see everyone's work!



09-11-2006, 12:51 PM
OK guys, I gave up on my other Giantess to pursue my practice with Painter. The story is I got Painter 9 with my new tablet PC the second week of August, right when this OFDW started. Since then I have done a few paintings with it. I decided to study the human figure with various paints and fell in love with the acryllics wet brush. So I played with it while I was doing the figure and came up with a Giant.

This giants story is more a story of the human life facing the end of their term on Earth. With death looming over his shoulder, he reflects on how peacefull his world was in the beginning.

Here is all my interative saves.

Please remember to be nice with your comments, this is the first real piece I have done. I would really like to learn to make my work more realistic. Like the earth and the blending of the hard paint strokes on the muscles. I want all to comment and please help. Thanks.

09-11-2006, 02:03 PM
HEY...Frejasphere...:bounce: :applause: :thumbsup:



I like the blue...adds mood...:)

GREAT JOB....:thumbsup:


09-11-2006, 03:29 PM
Finished Entry:

- Larger Version - (

The Awakening of the Underground Giant - Dawn

And with each morning and passing night, her figure dances away from the mountains that confine her and the chains that keep her still.

This is as far as I could take the piece given the deadline. A big thank you to everyone for being supportive and an inspiration to work harder. Thank you for the paintovers SpiritDreamer and architectus. I really loved the red/pink hues and also tried to include some warmer tones too. I tried to make the snow as well, but I really couldn't paint something half as good.

I honestly look forward to painting something different now. :D Thank you Rebeccak for this great workshop.

09-11-2006, 05:13 PM
Hi guys...

thanks Rebecak and Shaolin7 for advice about ading colour to the pit and stones surrounding...I tried some and didnt like the mood this is it...

...the final piece...

...rebbecak , what is the right resolution for submiting th efinal piece, sorry I forget...:)

09-11-2006, 05:17 PM

I would appreciate an 800 pix width x appropriate pix length image, and if you wish, you may want to link a higher res image.

Cheers, :)


09-11-2006, 08:10 PM
here it is...:)

nice work everybody :)

09-11-2006, 08:22 PM
Maz - I still think yours defines the theme the best. Great job!:bounce:

09-12-2006, 12:07 AM
Rebbecak, thank you so much for your crit :) really helped me improve

Well here it is the finished version, it's only pencils (i hope thats ok O: )

09-12-2006, 05:01 AM
This is definitely it :) did some last minute changes, the actual photographing of the drawing has been an ongoing challenge :D

Thanks all for comments and support
and BIG :thumbsup: :bounce: to all of you!!

Concept: The Earthmother Giantess of the Sea awakens in despair at what humankind has done to nature... reaching out of the ocean she morphes into a cyklone rising up and spiralling with force, although that force in itself is destructive, it's not governed by her anger - it's a chain-reaction to what we, as humans have brought on by neglecting earth and forcing the giantess to awaken...

Drawing (traditional) charcoal and graphite done on thick paper - size 55x75cm
I hope it's ok to pop this version in as well... it's not really part of the piece I guess (so ignore it if it shouldn't be here ;) ) I was playing around with the colour values in the photo and the blue sort of brings out that ocean at night/early morning, in moonlight feeling...

Cheers all and take care
a. :)

this is an edited post... photobucket removed all my figurative images... so just popping the finished ones back in, the WIPs will still be removed, but as workshop is finished - for now this is my update :)

09-12-2006, 05:37 AM
My schedule suddenly got slammed with work this week, so I need to post what I have and just let it go.

Really nice work everyone. There are some really great entries :)

09-12-2006, 07:51 AM
the "story": This morning an old shepherd got awakened by earth cracking and crumbling. After a brief consideration he decides to make for village to warn his neighbours.All in all thereīs not much to be afraid of (considering giantīs vegetarian-like behavior and sleepiness... ) - but I guess thatīs just the way shepherds go under such circumstances:)

danielh68, I like yours the most, it's got it all - action,space,color - well wish I coud do st like that one of those days:applause: just amazing
there's quite a few other pieces (like mazalo's) I like very much as well, in fact all the works look pretty good and inspiring in a way.

thanks everybody for making this fun and interesting, and Rebeccak for nice and helpful critique:)

btw: fullsize image (

09-12-2006, 12:20 PM
Tal - I love your graphite work. And yes, it is alright to submit it that way. I have been doing it like that for months now. Check my links under my signature.

Great job everyone.

Frej - I like the blue version. The angle of the head is a difficult one. Did you use a reference? That would be my only crit. I guess you could say she had the abnormal giant gene which would account for the larger upper jaw and cheek bones. Her torso looks good. My question is that tenicals comming out of her nipples or wet hair?:scream:

daniel - Yours reminds me of the 1950s horror films.

09-12-2006, 05:12 PM

Hi I'm quite back to personal production after some busy bugs times... :banghead:
I've been just posting these days... arrghhh.... back to pencils now ! :) back to oils ! back to wacom ! Back to life ! :D
Is it ending today ?
Everybody's work just great.

My favorites are Danielh68 (great expression, great mood, the concept is clear, powerful image) , HladekStepan (I loved that concept of a funny vegetarian giant, it's a nice artwork) , Mazalo (literally 'underground', great demon) and Talaria (I think there's a great style there and there is an expressive line of action on it).

Anyway everyone artwork as I said is just very very good. Great to admire it all.

Congratulations to all, keep it up.

09-12-2006, 06:06 PM
This has been a wonderful experience, allthough my active working time on this was rather limited. My first OFDW and definetely not my last! Hopefully I'll be able to actually work intensive on the next one (too many circumstances at the moment argh) :s
Nevertheless, watching your work and progress has been extremely enjoyable and I learned a lot through your entries, crits and opinions, which is most important after all right?

top class peepz :thumbsup:
thank you

here's what I got so far...

09-13-2006, 03:11 AM
Hey guys,

I just wanted to thank everyone who participated in this Workshop - both those who contributed work and those who commented on others' work. As always, it's nice to see the variety here and I hope to see everyone participate in future Workshops.

To be alerted of the next Tutorial or Workshop, I recommend subscribing here:

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Please be advised that the next Workshop on the Anatomy Forum is:

Coming Soon - The Anatomy Lesson Series - Body Part 2: The Torso (

And that the OFDW will likely run after the conclusion of the above month long Workshop, as I've found that running two Workshops concurrently tends to cancel one or the other out.

I invite all to participate in the upcoming Workshop! :)

09-13-2006, 03:23 AM


Amazing amount of work you did in this Workshop, on a number of different pieces - hope you will come back to this eventually and work a bit more on the lower arms and hands of the giant. Great to have you aboard, I hope you will participate in future Workshops as well!


I really liked the aquatic sketch and hope that you continue to render it. Did you want to further render the water and the boat? I think the giant is looking quite good so far, would love to see you take this further in your own time.


I really like the way this started out and I think it would be better served scale wise with perhaps a small, silhouetted human figure near the giant - the dove doesn't read fully but when you pointed it out I think it's a cool idea. I think that a bit more detailing in Photoshop would really help this out. I look forward to seeing your participation in future Workshops as well!


I think you could really take your image a lot further digitally, and would love to see you explore that. I'm sorry, I wasn't sure by your last message if it was okay or not to do a paintover. I'm still happy to do so if you wish. :)


I'm not sure I like the reaper or the globe, but you've made good progress on this - just keep working on it, and continuing to post your updates to your Sketchbook Thread. Like I say, I don't understand the purpose of the reaper or the globe, I think you are best served by focusing on the central figure. :)

You did a great job with this and I like the final outcome / cropping and framing. I think you might want in future pieces to try to make the figure a bit less plastic looking - but I also appreciate the styling and think you have done a nice job framing the figure. I hope to see your work in future Workshops. :)


09-13-2006, 03:33 AM


Good job with this in the amount of time allotted - I think you might want to render it further, but you've done a really nice job with the concept and really I think conveyed the concept the best. I think if pushed in terms of the rendering, this piece could really pop and have even more presence. Nice work!

Nice to see your work on this, it's another that I think well suited the concept. I hope also to see your work here in the future.


Nice to see you take crits in stride and to really use them to improve. Nicely done, I hope your next piece will push you even further.


Nice to see you back here!

It's good to see you working out these figures and taking things at your own pace. Keep working to refine, studying master works I think is really the key. Keep working hard to improve. :)


09-13-2006, 03:36 AM


I think this turned out to be a striking composition, and while I think there might be a slightly different color combination, overall this is a nice sketch - can't wait to see your future work as well.

If I have missed anyone, it is unintentional.

Thanks to all for a great Workshop! :)



09-13-2006, 04:18 AM
Well it's not midnight yet where I am = ). Lots of polishing left to do but I tried to cram in what I could, so here's my final submission (hope I can still get in Rebeccak!):

What a great workshop, excellent participation and lots of enthusiasm all around. Some really nice entries, too; thank you so much for running it Rebeccak!

09-13-2006, 10:22 AM
Rebecca :)

Yes it would be fun to take things further in the digital world... will see - am still very much a traditional mediums artist at heart... with a lingering curiosity - and you quoted on my play-around altering values instead of the original :eek: that can be taken as a PUSH to digital or just hmmmm :D and so sorry you misunderstood me; paint-over is totally fine if you want to... :) I think I'm done with this one now though.
Am wondering where the giant awakening in the museum got to? hope to see him resurface :)

take care and cheers
a. :)

and Glenn :)
I love your EarthSpirit (you got in and finished ahead of all of us :) ) but just want to say again that she is wonderful! :thumbsup:

09-13-2006, 02:50 PM
Rebecca - Thanks. The reaper and globe just placed it into this OFDW. I wanted to be involved in it. I kinda impressed myself with the progress and my competitive spirit wanted me to get involved in the OFDW.

09-13-2006, 05:27 PM

Heya, sorry for the misunderstanding! :)

Here is a paintover, bear in mind it's just a suggestion:

>>LARGE IMAGE LINK<< (http://%5BIMG%5D

No, unfortunately my giant never awoke. :)


Liking this update - would love to see you fully complete it in your own time as you can. :)


No worries! I understand. :)



09-13-2006, 09:55 PM
Congratulations everyone. There are some really great works here. I've been watching this thread for a while , and I must say it's been interesting to see how each of you progressed. I wanted to participate but I just couldn't finish in time. I'm glad that you all were able to finish.

Talaria- I love your pencil work.

Rebeccak- I think it's great for you to be so involved with everyone during the process.

I wish I had time to comment on everyone, but I gotta run.


09-13-2006, 10:00 PM
Rebecca :)
Cool... it's fun to see things with different eyes, and it's a slightly strange pose; neck / head actually do follow the reference (I could show you the reference, but won't post it here :D) nice elongation though :)

take care and cheers
a. :)

09-13-2006, 10:07 PM

Thanks for the comments, and I hope you can participate in future Workshops. :)


Oh, np, these things are only suggestions. :) They're also fun for me to do, so I don't mind making suggestions, even if your piece is finished. :)

BTW, I am curious to know from everyone if they prefer for me to give critique (I'd rather not dominate critique, but would prefer for everyone to interact) or not - I try to gauge what I think people want, but sometimes I'm not sure. Please post to let me know if you prefer to have more or less critique in these Workshops from me - I'm happy to try to do either. :)



09-13-2006, 11:38 PM
BTW, I am curious to know from everyone if they prefer for me to give critique (I'd rather not dominate critique, but would prefer for everyone to interact) or not - I try to gauge what I think people want, but sometimes I'm not sure. Please post to let me know if you prefer to have more or less critique in these Workshops from me - I'm happy to try to do either. :)


I didn't participate in this workshop, but I always like that you are active in critique. :)

09-15-2006, 12:39 AM
Hello everyone!

This is to let you know that this New Workshop is NOW OPEN:


Anatomy Lesson Series - Body Part 2: The Torso (

2D: Draw / Paint 50 Torsos in 1 Month!


3D: Sculpt 10-15 Torsos in 1 Month!

Friday, September 15, - Saturday, October 14, 2006 (

Please Note that the next Open Figure Drawing Workshop will not begin until after the above Anatomy Lesson Series Workshop ends. I hope to see everyone's participation in the Anatomy Lesson Series Workshop!

Cheers, :)


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