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06 June 2006, 08:21 PM
Um hi, I'm BNN.

Been lingering in this forum in a long time but new to posting.

Was hesitating to create such a thread due to my inborn laziness but I was greatly inspired by the guy who had a thread "Journey of an Absolute Rookie" in

Hence I decided to push myself further and stop staying in this comfort zone.

Been drawing for around almost 4 years. Oh and I just turned 18 this June.
I am now a Year 2 student in my local polytechnic focusing on animation.
Most of my skills (if i have) are self taught and referenced from internet or books.

Been using Andrew Loomis' anatomical teachings for sometime and now to Bridgman for a change.

Please knock me down hard if I don't update this thread regularly!

Arm Studies (Bridgman Reference)

note: anyway, more to come since i still have some studies not scanned yet.

06 June 2006, 09:53 PM

Welcome aboard! :)

The main thing I would recommend as you are pre~university is to focus on work using Traditional Media. Most art schools primarily look for Traditional work (Drawing / Painting) in an entrance Portfolio. Do you have an art advisor of any kind? It would help me to know a bit more about what your plans are and what the requirements are of the schools to which you will be applying. :)



06 June 2006, 05:42 AM
Hi Rebeccak

Nope I do not have any art advisor.
Actually I do not have a plan of whether to further my studies or not.

But if I do have a chance to further my studies I'm very interested to go for Sheridan College.
(And if that's possible it'll only be in another 3-4 years time? After I finish National Service)

06 June 2006, 07:48 AM
character for my upcoming animation assignment

poses from Bridgman

failed torso study... from Bridgman

i guess it's better to do the studies on paper.
Kinda distracting to do it with computer uh...

Ok off to do my animation project =]

06 June 2006, 07:06 PM
WIP of a female head i'm modelling for my assignment.

This is the 3rd (2nd proper) head i'm working on for now.
Some views and wire.

06 June 2006, 07:13 PM

Lovely work so far on this! :applause:

Cheers, :)


06 June 2006, 07:18 PM
Heh thanks =D

I'll work on more!

Anyway I'll be getting Burne Hogarth's book tomorrow! Yay!

Hope to drill more anatomy knowledge into myself!

06 June 2006, 04:34 PM
Ok arm study with reference to hogarth

Not very accurate and it's done on used paper (didn't want to waste the stack of single sided prints)

Gonna redo pretty soon!

Going for life drawing class tomorrow, heard that the lecturer's very good!
Hope to post some drawings from the class =]

06 June 2006, 12:52 AM

I really like this recent drawing ~ hope to see many more like it! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)


06 June 2006, 01:06 AM
Very lovely drawing. As for the model its a bit early to crit, looks pretty decent so far. The nose may be off, but its hard to tell since the head isn't complete yet. Once the ears are on and the whole head is formed than its easier to check what is off on the model.

06 June 2006, 09:17 AM
Thanks Rebeccak =D I'll do my best to work more!

Womball, thanks for replying my thread and the compliments =]
As for the nose I think it's ok? I'm doing an asian by the way =]

Ok yesterday's drawing session was very fruitful.
Discovered my weakness actually but I think it can be improved.

Realised that my proportion (Especially the head) goes haywire when i'm drawing big.
The lecturer says I just need to practise more to get used to it. He's a very nice and friendly guy =D

Here's the pics

Gestures (1 and 2 minute poses)

06 June 2006, 09:18 AM
Gesture 2

06 June 2006, 09:19 AM
Longer drawings (ranging 15-30 minutes)

06 June 2006, 09:25 AM
Yea as you all can see in the longer drawings, a lot of the proportions especially at the head area is pretty haywired

So i tried to do another 5 minute gesture to see if it's better
The head is terribly wrong I felt, couldn't take it so yea that's how the gesture came.
I think it's still pretty haywired but i prefer the flow and quality of the lines here.

After drawing these 2 pics i consulted my lecturer. He asked me to do some measurement and checking before laying the stronger strokes. I tried and it seemed better. (I think it's in one of the longer drawings or gesture)

By the way the pictures are not in chronological order.
These are only I guess about 1/3 of what i drew yesterday. (yea the rest is pretty much crappy..)
6 hours worth of life drawing rocks!

Anyway.. pardon me if I sound unfriendly or stiff, I'm still not very used to posting in an international forum. =D

06 June 2006, 09:29 PM

Great collection here! :) It's always rewarding to draw for a long period, it really does take that long to sort of get into the groove and understand a direction. Definitely looking forward to following your progress with these! :thumbsup:



06 June 2006, 07:02 PM
Didn't have time to do much drawing.

This was done after lunch with friends as we sat outside the area facing the sea

Mostly done in 2-3 minutes

Pardon me with the messiness!

More to come soon =D
Especially Burne Hogarth's studies. Man he totally rocks, I thought his drawings were pretty too exaggerated until I see his figure drawing book. That blew me away with his teachings!

And I realised that my order of sketching is same as what he mentioned XD

06 June 2006, 02:30 AM

Keep doing those studies from life...make it a habit to keep that notebook at your side always.
Get in the habit of expressing your thoughts and feelings, both visually, and verbally in that notebook...make it your book of ideas for future paintings...start seeing the world around you in
those terms.....carry a little picture matt or picture frame in your notebook, so you can hold it
up and frame the scene you are decribeing, before and during the time you decribe it,...this will train your memory
and your minds eye to see in terms of composition.
Most of your outdoor figures in that resent batch are well might try using
a ball point pen when doing these quick gestures...block in the figures very lightly, and then
consentrate on the curves on the inside and outside of the figures...also look for shadows,
and vary your line thickness according to lighted and darkened areas on the figure, and
points of stress ect....Always be thinking of composition....a well drawn figure is less, if it is
not composed on the page with some forthought.
Keep studying Burne Hogarth, doing other master copies,drawing from life as you are doing, and it will be impossible for you to not get the resules you are seeking.
Hope these words are of some help to you..:)
Really enjoying your thread so far, and am looking forward to seeing more of your drawings..:thumbsup:


06 June 2006, 08:42 AM
Hey SpiritDreamer,

thanks for these precious advices man! I will keep working =D

06 June 2006, 03:27 PM

Good to see more studies! Another artist you should definitely check out is Glenn Vilppu. His website is here:

I have his Drawing Manual, and it is quite good. He also sells a number of DVDs, which razz has been copying from in his Anatomy Thread.

Anatomy Thread of razz (

He has been doing Hogarth studies as well, so you guys should definitely talk! :)



06 June 2006, 04:06 PM
Hey thanks for the recommendation!

I've been looking for Vilppu's stuff too! But it seems that I can't find it in my local stores =[
I can't purchase stuff via the net too..

Shall seek my lecturer I guess..

Checking out razz's stuff in a minute!

Doodles and studies for today:

06 June 2006, 04:08 PM

I realised I'm always very restless when I'm doing copies.. Shall train myself to focus!

06 June 2006, 10:54 AM
Hi....BNN.....:thumbsup: ......Those are ...GREAT STUDIES....Really glad to see you useing ink, will develope a much better line that way.....I also can see that you are thinking about composition, as you compose your studies, my eye travels over the page in a nice are creating motion, even with these little of the keys to motion in composition, is to not have any of the negitive space be equal.

The more equal the negitive space surrounding the figure, the less motion.

You might start to do little mouth studies of peoples mouths around you,
and try to remember and capture what you see, in the way of exspression, a lot of different
muscles at work in defferent ways around the mouth, to creat all of those subtle and not so
subtle expressions.
If you can master the muscles of the mouth area, and muscles around the eyes, brow area,
nose will be able to give personality to your figures from life and from your imagination .....KEEP GOING, YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB...:applause: :thumbsup:


06 June 2006, 05:50 PM
The more equal the negitive space surrounding the figure, the less motion.

Man these advices are really very helpful man... THANKS ALOT!

And hey i really needed these encouragements man... It's all these that keep me going till now =D

Thanks a lot really!

Ok today I didn't do much practise, done while i was watching TV.
Abit of gesture from newspaper and the TV itself

Doodles of various faces

06 June 2006, 01:54 AM

It's great to see your studies! :thumbsup: Keep doing these, they seem quite confident and can only get more so. :) One thing I would recommend is to vary your line weight a bit with the ballpoint pen. Don't be afraid to 'lose' the line for a bit or have it become quite faint in places.

Really looking forward to seeing more of your work! :)



06 June 2006, 02:04 PM
Hey thanks for droppin a comment by my thread.

I'm definitely learning a lot from this thread so far, especially from how you embody the suggestions of others. I'm also learning names, (because all I've heard of is hogarth! haha!)

So keep up the great work!

06 June 2006, 12:05 AM
Thought id take a better look at your thread, and i must say am very impressed! Your quick gesture sketches look very accurate from what I can see. Looking forward to seeing more of your work on faces too!
Thanks for dropping by my thread!


06 June 2006, 03:27 PM
Thanks everyone for their kind words!

Drawing for the past 2 days

06 June 2006, 06:33 PM
Hi...BNN....WOW...BEAUTIFUL....STRONG DRAWINGS....YOUR LINE IS ALSO STARTING TO GET MORE RELAXED AND GRACEFUL ....LIKE THOSE EXPRESSIONS...they area lots of fun, once you get used to doing them, and really add to your studies....GREAT JOB....looking forward to seeing more....:thumbsup:


06 June 2006, 08:04 PM
Hey thanks man Glenn for your encouragement again!

Burning with more fuel!!

Here's a lil update on my model

Haven't been working on it for quite some time. Mainly updated on the eyes and the ears

06 June 2006, 09:46 PM
Mmm, 3d. As it's just a wip, I don't want to crit anything, later :D Nice Hogarth studies. Keep it up! :thumbsup:

06 June 2006, 01:28 PM
I'm really liking your model. I can't wait to see the finished version!

Speaking of which, I need to jump on mine... oroororo~

06 June 2006, 06:22 PM

Nice work with the Hogarth sketches! :thumbsup: Always great to see those, I think they will stand you in good stead. :)

The 3D model is looking great so far, the main thing I would suggest is watching the upper eyelid fold (it collapses a bit on the far end) and also I think the ear looks a bit off, here is a picture which you might use to create the ear:

Looking forward to seeing more of your work!

Cheers, :)


06 June 2006, 10:32 AM

I am new to 3D, so can't really say to much in that area....I just started using and experimenting with Z BRUSH about three mounths ago...what I have done so far is on the last ten pages or so of my anatomy thread...take a peek if you haven't already.
The thing that I like most about Z BRUSH, IS THAT IT ALLOWS ME TO CREAT REALLY FAST FACES, and to put an unlimited amount of expressions on them...great for practice.
My aim at the moment, is to turn 3D into 2D, USING A COMBINATION OF EACH.
I managed to pull it off once so far in my lion hunt painting....cover piece of my portfolio.
The facets that are created before you sub devide are GREAT,...the planes the facets creat
are a must for getting a good face, or any part of the body for that matter...they give you a solid foundation to work from, and to refine and smooth out later in the final steps.
I have noticed that a lot of people are jumping the gun, and doing the refined steps before
they have all the planes defined beforhand....can only lead to a barby doll effect I THINK.
If you have Z BRUSH, you might try doing a bunch of face and head studies with
expressions that vary with each one...get as many faceted planes established as you can,
just as you do with your HOGARTH ink a whole bunch of quick figures, parts of
figures, faces , heads ect. ...just like you are doing your ink drawing studies.....don't
worry so much about a perfect finished polished piece so much...just consentrate more on the faceted planes that creat the solid foundation from which you can perfect at the end
Like I said at the beginning here...I am no expert when it comes to 3D, but what I just stated seemes like the most logical aproach to mastering the human figure and form with
expression in 3D.
Hope this helps a little...can't hurt...:)
Keep posting.....really enjoying your thread....:thumbsup:


06 June 2006, 06:43 PM

Sorry for the lack of updates these few days, been doing some project work and there's only a few studies like 1-3 pages

I guess it'll be better to post in batches =D Almost done with the project (pretty irrelevant one -.-)

Yea Rebecca I'm guilty of doing the ear without a proper reference..
Shall REDO and push myself further!

Glenn! I'd like to get my hands on Zbrush but...... Yea my school don't have it and I can't afford it of course!

I'm really impressed by the Zbrush works around

I'll try my best to see how I get can my hands on it!

Anyway Yea you're right I think i should finish the general form of the head first just like doing drawings and studies.

By the way this head is for um... A Maya head modelling assignment, so i'd have to stick with Maya for now.

Updates will come soon!

06 June 2006, 10:13 PM
Looking forward to it :)

06 June 2006, 11:57 PM



06 June 2006, 09:05 AM
Nice work BNN!
Looking forward to seeing where this thread goes! :D

06 June 2006, 11:46 AM
Hey Glenn!
Thanks for the link man! I didn't know they give such trials!
That's great!

Gonna try out today.

Mr Steve! =o
Haha i'll do my best to work on anatomy and post my progress regularly =p

Ok here's the stuff for pass few days, my life drawing's with my friend though, so I can't post it.

06 June 2006, 11:33 PM
Wow these are simply stunning! You have some serious talent!!

Your sketching style is really inspirational too!

06 June 2006, 12:18 AM

Nice pages! :thumbsup: I really like the way you are exploring form in a gestural / yet structural way in your first page especially. Keep up the great work!

Cheers, :)


06 June 2006, 01:56 AM
REALLY ENJOYING those ink studies.....will pay off big time,..when your MINDS EYE put's it all together, and starts showing you VISIONS of what your SPIRIT longes to ... CREAT ..:)
and the MEMORY of what you have learned kicks in, SETTING YOUR IMAGINATION ...FREE ...:bounce:

On that Z BRUSH,....pick out sphere shape in the top left tool bar....put on canvas
Press the ...T ..on your keyboard....makes it 3D
NEXT press..... Z ...on your keyboard.....this gives you ....symitry....get the red crosshairs in
the middle of the sphere...horizontally, one across from the other, by turning the sphere...ajust their spaceing, so it equals the wideness of the arch of the nose ...and start to strech the arch of the nose out from the sphere or
think of it as a piece of clay, do eye sockets, and work your way outward from there....spinning the sphere around to see the profile ect. as you progress
Adjust the size of your brush or whatever you want to call it of sreen ..tool slider bar.
Press the.... Alt ...on your keybard to compress the pressing your thumb into a piece of clay...good for eye socket's , nostrals, ..ect
Press the ..Shift button on your keyboard.....smoothes the area you are seeking to smooth adding water to clay.
At the right side of screen you'll find the ways to make your image bigger, smaller...ect.
SPIN the face around by pressing on canvis.. outside of face on blank area.
After you get the facial planes down, + D on your smooths face it very quickly and let smooth just a little....the longer you press the
smoother face gets....the smoother face gets,..the less times you can edit, and corect mistakes ect.
Hope these little tips help you get started on your fist face in Z BRUSH...still experimenting and exploreing this beast myself...:scream: :)

Keep posting, and keep up the GREAT work...:thumbsup:


06 June 2006, 04:12 PM
feeling productive

pencil doodle on used animation paper during animation class

no reference so yea.. many things looks off

06 June 2006, 04:13 PM

Anyway thanks for everyone's encouragement! =D

And oh yea Glenn! Trying out what you say now!
Thanks dude!!!

06 June 2006, 05:49 PM
Kinda traumatised after using zbrush for a while

The interface is absolutely out of my world and I suppose I need alot of time to get used to it -.-

My attempt before I got lost and couldnt return to edit mode -.-

06 June 2006, 05:49 PM

REALLY REALLY NICE sketches and gestures. Reading your thread really reminds me to buck up and stop slacking.

Keep it up man!!!

06 June 2006, 07:44 PM
Hi.... BNN...:)
That's a lot of drawing.....your quick for sure....a few nice ones in their...will be more nice
ones than bad ones,...the more you do them....just takes time and practice, way around it..:)
Z BRUSH...LOL :scream: ....I know that might try staying away from the ..Ctrl + D
botton for awhile, tell you get used to makeing the facial planes....kind of like
blocking in shapes first....same principle as you are doing with your ink drawings....Consentrate on creating a strong foundation the pollish for last.
I didn't touch the pollish botton...Ctrl +D untel I created a whole bunch of stuff first...check out the last ten or twelve pages on my thread, and you'll see what I am talking about.
IT is a lot of fun once you get the hang of don't give up on it yet....:)

06 June 2006, 04:01 AM
lol.. a lot of works in short time....

i believe quantity makes quality! keep working.....( for me:shrug: . just believe,,, i have more :wise: excuses)

it's pleasure to reading(watching) through your thread...!

06 June 2006, 02:55 PM
Nice work cant wait to see an update on your 3d model, your head looks so perfect im rubbish at modelling heads keep up the good work.

06 June 2006, 03:04 PM
Hey there! I can see the improvement already. Your of to a good start, don't stop practicin :)

06 June 2006, 04:30 PM
LI XIONG! Oh my you joined CGS! Hope to see you post ur works mannn!

Glennnnn! Struggling to get the HANG of it... -dies-

sturmkim & cok3, thanks for encouragement! I'll keep at it! It's slowly becoming part of my life! I just photocopied plenty of resources (mainly Drawing Dynamic Hands - yea my weakness)

hoodedpython, hmmm my completed model isn't really up to my expectation due to the time constrain. But personally I wouldn't say it's complete so I'll improve it at my own time and so I can use it for the next assignment (making the whole body)

Did the hair pretty last minute and without reference/tutorial T-T
Gonna redo... Look oldish right? My 1st completed head model:
And um I didn't really complete my editing for the ear according to what Rebecca suggested, due to time constrain as well =[

I'll improve it.

And next...

Hey zbrushers out there!
Help meeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I know this sounds kinda stupid and lame...
But I searched the help files but I don't see my answers!

1) how do i re-edit my geometry once I exit edit mode for it?
2) How do i delete a geometry? I CANT SEEM TO DO IT! T-T
3) What does snapshot do? I thought it'll give me a printscreen of what I did but no it doesn't!

For example; after i rough out my head i'd like to add eye balls to see the results, i created the sphere but I can't edit the head anymore!

edit: Anyway, i've seen people drawing and talking about the 100/50 heads a month, what is it about? I can't find the thread anywhere =x Pretty interested in it

07 July 2006, 07:54 AM

wow - really liking those sketches - especially the pen sketches - ink rules. Line looks good, maybe a tad stiff here and there. loosen up a bit, let your lines flow over around under through your forms. great progress, looking forward to more z-brushes.


- d.

07 July 2006, 08:38 AM
Hi demented! Thanks for your encouragement!

Really starting to get used to the of pen, and when i switch back to pencil i feel much more confident!

Will press on further!


In the 1st pic I almost forgot about the line weight, and so when I was drawing the 2nd one I suddenly remembered about it.

Sitting in front of computer without a proper place to draw is pretty crappy.. But I'm getting my new PC that will be in my room which is more spacious!

I will try harder!

07 July 2006, 11:17 AM
Another zbrush attempt

Used tablet to put in more features

Ummmmmmm.... Still pretty lost over he control... But it's really fun to use such an intuitive program

No ref, just still playing around to get used to the program.

07 July 2006, 11:54 AM
Hi....BNN...:) :thumbsup:

BEAUTIFUL ink drawings on those head studies.....:applause:
Also see you are getting more confortable with the Z BRUSH...WHICH IS GREAT TO SEE..:)
I notice that when I do the cranium...skull....I have a better result when I set the brush size to
very very BIG ....just seems to creat it in a much better proportion...I turn it so as to look
at it from the backside to start with, and start building it from that angle...that way ,I can see if it is getting wider or taller than it should be , in proportion to the face....then I go and look at it from the top , bottom, then side
and front....always keeping in mind it's proportion to the face.and also keeping in mind the
planes of the forhead and temple ..side planes, and how they join the cranium...skull..:)

GREAT to see you makeing such rapid progress...your hard work is really starting to show


07 July 2006, 04:05 PM
Yup Glenn! Thanks for your suggestion!

Anyway how do i remove a snapshot from my workspace?

Pretty confused about it

Now, 3/50 heads

Wanted it to be a quickie but it turned out pretty slow.. like 1.5 hours.
Didnt add the eyes as it looks horrible when i try XD
But I kinda like the result!

07 July 2006, 06:38 PM

That last digital piece is a nice simplification, which is exactly the purpose of doing fast studies. Also really liking the pen studies, and hope you push these further. :)



07 July 2006, 08:21 PM
Yup Rebecca I'll do my best to push on further! I always feel that I lack the discipline to reference something properly. This is a great opportunity for me to do so.

And yea please let me express my thanks to everyone who've been supportive of me in my thread. In this short period of time I really could feel some difference in me.

The past me pretty much neglected drawing as I felt my standard was already ok enough.
Now drawing's really sinking into me!

Some other studies for today:

07 July 2006, 07:47 AM
Great stuff with the ballpen:) ! reminds me of my work when I was in design school!

07 July 2006, 08:17 AM
wow I am stunned to see your work and what's more is that now I will draw draw draw until my arm falls off!
truly inspiring... I've seen so many things here my brain can't cope with all the info at once lol

07 July 2006, 05:31 PM

Lovely work here! :) Regarding using ballpoint pen, you might find this Tutorial useful, though I think you are doing quite well on your own: :)

TUTORIAL - General Principles of Anatomical and Figurative Art / Cross Hatching (

Keep up the good work!



07 July 2006, 05:52 PM
Hoho Rebecca! Yea i've been to the link and i must say it's GREAT!

Today i did finer shadings to my practices but i think it's ok to go with looser shadings?


4/50 Head:
Took much more time to do!
Like... 2.5 hours loosely.
But i feel pretty proud of this pic! This is something I couldnt do in the past! Been a long time since I put my signature too XD

I'm on fire!!!

07 July 2006, 06:03 PM
great job BNN!

What did you use for this one

07 July 2006, 06:08 PM
YO Cuzz!

I used Painter 8. Oil pastel crayon if I'm not wrong. =D

07 July 2006, 06:52 AM
The loose shading has a nice painterly feel to it. I think its fine to use that technique its really interesting to see.

07 July 2006, 10:07 AM
Nice work BNN, looking forward to seeing more heads!

I tend to end up spending a lot of time on my drawings too, on things like shading. I think it might be a form of procrastination but i think its also quite relaxing!

07 July 2006, 10:26 AM

great work - love the confidence of the penwork - starting to make me think of Bjorn Hurri - and the Impressionist qualities in your heads are awesome. Like how you are approaching the story, awesome work, keep at it!


- d.

07 July 2006, 11:48 AM
Yo Womball and Pete!

Thanks for the encouragement and compliment!

demented! I just searched for Bjorn Hurri's works and i must say it's really nice! It'll be a good inspirating to me!

Thanks everyone! =D

07 July 2006, 12:15 PM

Like that head study ...glad to see you doing these...You might want to pick out one that really appeals to you, and do a nice ballpoint pen drawing....use black ink ...keep drawing small.
Check out some of DaVinci's small ink drawings...will give you a feel for how to get atmosphere
with ink..:)
Looking forward to seeing your progress....GREAT SO FAR....:applause:


07 July 2006, 01:51 PM
Yo Glenn! Interesting suggestions... Will go try it out!

5/50 Heads:

Trying out colors of my choice
Was trying to see if I still can obtain the correct values

Here's the version after i made it greyscale

Hmm looks like more contrast can be made =o

07 July 2006, 02:52 PM
Hey man great to see u so active over here. Keep it going, we need more Singaporean presence here!


07 July 2006, 03:01 PM

I'd like to see you anatomy thread also!!!

Go go go!!!

07 July 2006, 03:03 PM

I think this is a great approach to this exercise, and I like that you are addressing the major planes without going for detail ~ that's exactly the approach I think is good to take. :) Making a more finished piece is just a matter of adding smaller and smaller planes, but without the major ones established, the smaller ones will make no sense. Keep up the good work! :)



07 July 2006, 05:42 PM
WIP of a concept sketch for story module, just wanted a simple sketch haha...

Hmmm actually a drawings not even needed, but hands' just itchy!

Had drawing class today, will post the pictures tomorrow =]

07 July 2006, 10:32 AM

I'd like to see you anatomy thread also!!!

Go go go!!!

Me? Anatomy thread??? :scream: That's a nice one haha.... I'll think about it once I step into camp! Cheers dude

07 July 2006, 11:51 AM
Nice drawings i like your style, who is that girl you have on your picture shes really good looking.

07 July 2006, 11:56 AM
hoodedpython! Thanks for visiting my thread and your compliements! =]

I've been waiting for people to ask me this question, she is Erika Sawajiri

A half French half Japanese, real sweet with fabulous acting! XD

07 July 2006, 04:12 PM
Today's updates very little, so I only have one drawing for TODAY hmmm..
Ok not a drawing but a set up for a head drawing?
I guess it's an exercise I should start long ago

I printed this head and i applied markers and paint on to it to create clear shapes so i could follow it

Wanted to actually to it like those negative studies but i wonder if it works?
Can I have some opinion here?

Updates for the drawing class I had:
Big-head-symdrome-on-big-paper still occurs -.-

07 July 2006, 04:14 PM

Feeling kinda crappy for not being able to do the negative studies properly... T-T
Will try to read up more on it

6/50 heads:
LITTLE bit of negative space practice, actually this is pretty experimental
Constructing the head and finding shapes (well this one i turned the reference back to normal view, was kinda tired to try the upside-down version)
Lazy piece -.- If I put in more effort to put the hatching nicely I'd like it more I guess...
Time to sleep..... 6 more hours to animation lecture......

07 July 2006, 05:46 PM
How can you draw human poses and make them look realistic do you have a wodden human model or something.

07 July 2006, 05:49 PM
python, I have life drawing class every Monday for this semester (which is ending in like... 1 month's time) for 2 hours (wish I could have more -.-)

well I also have the wooden figure at home but i don't use it at all cause to me it's too stiff to make any nice pose.

I suppose reference in the net is much better.

07 July 2006, 07:21 PM

every monday for two hours? so do I! Had it last semester (April-June) and will be doing it this semester again (July-September I think)

Pen study is looking real good. Would like to see you enforce more control over your line and hatching. to much in different directions can make it look like hair. Pen is a great medium for practice, keep practicing and you'll see the result very soon!

keep us updated

- d.

07 July 2006, 10:55 AM
Haha demented, these Mondays weren't really a good experience for me as I was not at good terms with my lecturer.

But I decided to tame myself down more and be willing to learn from her.

Enjoying lately!

7/50 heads:

Used a dying self inking caligraphy pen and graphite pencil.

The resemblance isn't really there but I kinda like the feel I created
Hope you all will like it =D

8's halfway through!

Anyway this is the trial version of my animation, the run cycle
Looping issues and background connection still fixing

Link: (

07 July 2006, 07:00 PM

Enjoying this last piece a lot, there's a great feel to it! I think the combination of your doing gestural life studies plus the master copies is really working together nicely! :) Keep up the good work!

EDIT: Just watched your movie ~ what a sweet little animation! It's really charming. :) The only thing is that I think the background might be a bit more developed in terms of the painting. I'm not really qualified to critique the animation, but I was definitely charmed by the look of it. :)

Cheers, :)


07 July 2006, 07:19 AM
Yo Rebecca! Thanks for your encouragement! You're definitely right about the background, i'll improve it as soon as time allows.

Ok I didnt do much drawings for these 2 days, was pretty much modelling the body for the head I did (yes another assignment)

Spent around... 2.5-3 hours? Cant remember. But i think the proportion still needs a lot of work.

And um... haven't referred to any reference yet, was having fun playing around with the topology

My wire's still pretty messy and raw as you can see, almost like a robot XD

Hmm... And practice on the new blendshape function I just learned yesterday

Didnt look very proper isnt it =x

Finally reached Saturday for a bit of rest and drawing.
Will post more heads up soon =D

07 July 2006, 06:26 PM

I think reference is definitely the next logical step :) ~ if you're going to be doing a lot of modeling, I would recommend getting a membership to, where they have tons of reference photographs and particularly orthographic reference that is hi res.

It's not terribly expensive, you can join for a month and download as much stuff as you can download / store. Also there's my friend's free site, > photosets, where he has free reference photos, though not as many of them are orthographic.

Cheers, :)


07 July 2006, 01:12 AM
Yeah I got that membership. It's really good.

07 July 2006, 05:26 AM
Yo Rebecca! Yup I certainly realised the importance of reference after visiting CGS XD

Oo.. And thanks the links! The photosets are great!

Hey Cuzz! Hmmm so which is better? The recurring membership or single membership?
I mean does it make a difference in the end?

07 July 2006, 05:57 AM

Hmmmm I'm not too sure to be honest... economics have never been my strong point. I got the 3-month one. Wasn't too steep for me and I knew I'd want it for more than a month. I saw too that they have this premium membership and all that jazz. I'm kinda no-frills so I just went with the basic 3-month one cuz I figured it'd only take a few models, like focusing on them hard to really get a good basic understanding of the modeling principles when it comes to anatomy.

Hope this helps... I like your gestures by the way, didn't see them b4 for some reason.


07 July 2006, 03:35 PM
Thanks for the compliment Cuzz, anyway the 3 month membership certainly looks more promising to me!

Update for today:
Half done in train (shaky with one hand holding reference -.-) half done at home
Just done not long ago but i kinda like the feel once again XD
Done on last friday, for my animation. A mere drawing to keep my momentum going.

Yup and my next animation project will be done without cleanups and coloring, I'll be keeping this loose drawing style

Wanna see how it's like!

07 July 2006, 05:52 PM
:applause: Hi....BNN....:)

Like all your lastest post......really really like that middle one,....the blue ink drawing ...very strong piece,....your line is really getting ....BEAUTIFUL....:thumbsup:

Also like your 3D head, and the way it is changing ....great to see......wish I knew how to do that changing thing.....would like to see my Z BRUSH faces changing thier expressions,...don;t
know what I would do with them,...but would be fun to see...:scream:



07 July 2006, 05:51 AM

Lovely work! I think you have a nicely tactile sense in your drawings, that's encouraging to see. :)

I hear several people from your school are visiting SIGGRAPH. Will you be there as well? :)



07 July 2006, 03:28 PM
Yo Rebecca.. Um I'm not going, can't afford it at all. =[

Anyway updates for today

10-11/50 heads
Done while I was very sleepy like 2-3 hours ago -.-

And honestly that was done after this:

I guess the 1st one was more of leisure and relaxation.

But I really like the 2nd one alot! Except the fact that my black ballpoint died -.-

07 July 2006, 03:33 PM
Wow BNN!

That second one yea! It really has an intense expression on it, great job!

It made me stop scrolling... haha!

The pen is coming along well, you make me proud to be in the ball-point-pen clan. haha

07 July 2006, 03:36 PM
Wow BNN!

That second one yea! It really has an intense expression on it, great job!

It made me stop scrolling... haha!

The pen is coming along well, you make me proud to be in the ball-point-pen clan. haha

Hey Cuzz! Thanks man! That made my day! =D
I'm really starting to love ball point pen alot! =p =p

07 July 2006, 03:49 PM

I'm sorry to hear you're not going, but there are always future SIGGRAPHS ~ plus, I don't know if you're aware, but you can go as a student volunteer (you have to apply months in advance, see their site for details ( but I believe they subsidize your travel expenses and accomodation if you work at their venue for part of the conference. :)

Lovely work with your ballpoint pen studies! :applause: You have a really nice touch with these and with drawing in general. :) Looking forward to following your progress here!

Cheers, :)


07 July 2006, 04:41 PM
Thanks Rebecca! Certainly hope I can visit the future SIGGRAPHS!

Anyway updates for today.

These are drawn in a very distracting yet blissful environment
So.. XD Accuracy is very off.

Heads 12-13/50:

Next a pencil sketch. Actually i think it feels REALLY good to switch back to pencil like after using ball point for sometime

It's like your pencil have been equipped with some magic you've never attained before

No reference just plain doodle (as I've run out of references for the heads, yup I printed them out so I can draw anywhere I want)

07 July 2006, 06:19 PM
=o Lately it's kinda quiet in this thread uh =o


Update for today:

14/50 heads

Yup actually in the beginning the positions of the features were off
Wanted to restart but I told myself to finish it and see how it'll be like.
Kinda like it.
Weird thing i felt today was the difference in strokes
It's kinda.. Shorter but tighter strokes hmmmmmm

07 July 2006, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by BNN: These are drawn in a very distracting yet blissful environment...Actually i think it feels REALLY good to switch back to pencil like after using ball point for sometime

It's like your pencil have been equipped with some magic you've never attained before
BNN, will be posting a bit sporadically over the next few days (boy that beach can be distracting :D) but I have to tell you that these comments are completely charming! :) Really funny to hear how much a difference it makes to use pencil after using pen ~ kind of like relying on one of your senses, it makes the others more accute. :)

You're doing lovely work ~ keep it up! :thumbsup:



07 July 2006, 06:50 PM
Hey, BNN! I love those pencil sketches, great linework. When you saw me having 23 heads, and told that you've done only 14, the first thing that came to my mind was that it's not the quantity that matters, it's quality. Now I'd really like to have let's say 10 heads but all of them finished and great looking. Now from all 23 I've done I like only a few. I know it's just a practise, but I like to finish things I've started. But I'd never reach 50 that way. Not sure if I will now. I've learned from this exercise to make the thing you're drawing (or painting or wtw) look complete. If it's a sketch, it's asketch, if it's a finished drawing, the finished drawing it is and so on. Now I'll try to finish the heads I'll be doing even if I won't reach 50. It's not the thing. If I make myself be fast I won't get good results, as seen now with almost all of my heads. So you don't make the mistake I've made and keep up the good work! The speed will come with more practising, not with forsing yourself to be fast or something. Ok, enough talking for me :)

07 July 2006, 08:13 PM
Hey I'm really feeling that last one!



07 July 2006, 08:47 PM
hey bnn. wow some really great stuff here! i love your gestures and heads, keep up the great work! :)

07 July 2006, 12:20 PM
nice sketches,

i've loved using ballpen myself but now i'm too lazy to take out a peace of paper and a ballpen to start drawing :banghead:


07 July 2006, 05:58 PM
Hey guys thanks for the reply and encouragement =D

razz, don't worry about it, I'm merely blaming myself for not managing the time properly, i know i can draw more heads in a day but sometimes I just slack too much! =x WILL WORK HARDER!

Anyway, updates for today:

No head drawings, pretty weird day but um.. this is the more indepth concept for my modelling

Inspired by Artgerm

It's kinda my version of his Pepper

07 July 2006, 09:14 PM
Very nice work in here BNN. I love the ballpoint work - great shading and sense of volume. Soo young and soo talented... where did all my time go? ; ) Keep posting, I want to see more : )

07 July 2006, 02:57 PM
Nice owrd I can see great improvement by the way whats SIGGRAPH?

07 July 2006, 06:41 PM
Thanks guys again!

python, Um SIGGRAPH... I have no idea in great detail, but apparently it's the biggest CG convention in the world isnt it?

anyway updates for today:

HAD to squeeze out sometime to draw! Man i gotta sleep so I don't doze off in CG Overdrive!!!

I think this pic, the values were ok before i got obsessed with trying to fix some details
But well for every painting/drawing i do, I will ask myself if i learnt or reviewed something.

If yes, it's fruitful.

To me this is yes, been hell of a long time since i colored something like this.

07 July 2006, 06:12 PM

Head 16/50 (i'm moving on pretty slowly T-T)
This was done briefly yesterday. Gonna start doing some pen portraits again!

Now things I've sketched over the 3 days in CG Overdrive.

Basically sometimes I sketch to keep myself more awake.

Um sitting in a convention hall for 6 hours (excluding lunchbreak) for 3 days can be really tiring.

But many stuff are INSPIRING!

E.g Mr Carlos Baena who did Cars' Guido!
Mr Feng Zhu who showed us amazing live demo on his approach to sketching and coloring!
Mr Andrew Gordon who worked on The Incredibles and Finding Nemo!
Mr Robert Chang who gave us insight about colors and techniques!
Oh and Mr Daniel Martinez Lara from Pepeland!

I'd say this is really worth it. I'm SO INSPIRED by these great guys!!!

Ok here's the stuff, nothing impressive =p

07 July 2006, 10:19 PM

A friend of mine who has a thread on this forum went to CGOverdrive ~ this mangy fellow: :)

His thread is here:

Anatomy Thread of LoTekK (

Nice to see your progress ~ really liking the simplified paintings, I think that's exactly the way to approach these fast pieces. :)



07 July 2006, 05:07 AM
wow that "rather corpulent" face under different angles is great
I gotta try something like that!

very inspiring stuff, keep it comin we luv it :)

07 July 2006, 11:12 AM
Haha! Rebecca! The guy on the extreme left is my 3D lecturer! XD

Thanks for the encouragement anyway =]
Must work on some refined pieces somehow... =]

07 July 2006, 06:18 AM

Hey, that's cool! :) It's a very small world, is it not? :)



07 July 2006, 04:13 PM
Yea Rebecca certainly! =p

Anyway updates for today:

Didn't have time to do much drawings lately -.-
Pretty satisfied with this piece though =]

07 July 2006, 12:41 PM

Heads 17-21

In a process of another head, this 20th piece was destroyed due to unforeseen circumstances -.-

BUT, this was created. I think this is one of my best heads =]

07 July 2006, 03:30 PM

22/50 heads:

Anyone still watching over my thread? o.O =x

07 July 2006, 03:36 PM

LOL, you have to give us a chance :D ~ these last 2 (3 rather, since 2 are on the same page) heads are looking terrific ~ really liking the sense of volume you've captured, as well as the life you've given to the drawings. Terrific work ~ looking forward to seeing more! :)



07 July 2006, 03:47 PM
your drawings are really impressive!

I love the character shape sketches btw - especially the little square guy at the bottom right, which looks a bit like a robot with huge eyes and a nasty expression of surprise :D :thumbsup:

07 July 2006, 04:32 PM
I like the one with two heads on one sheet. If not the best, they're the best you've drawn (or should I say posted here). Overall you're doing a great work here. And I really like the start of your paintings, maybe you should push your future ones more further. The result could be awesome.

07 July 2006, 12:16 PM

Your drawings just keep getting better....great to see....really like the the drawings a nice feel....Burne Hogarth used to fill up little notebooks full of drawings done in red ink....that one you posted above reminded me of what I saw in those note books of his...:)
Also like the way you are doing little compositional thumnail drawings...very important, and key for training your eyes to see, judge , and creat space....will pay off big time...for sure..:thumbsup:
Think your paintings will match the quality of your drawings, when you find brushes that you are comfortable with....just keep experimenting, tell you find what feels comfortable for you , and allows you to express the emotions that you are seeking to project.
REAL PLEASURE seeing your thread and your skill develope....keep up the GREAT work...:bounce: :thumbsup:


07 July 2006, 02:13 PM
Great Work BNN,

your almost halfway :twisted:

that last balpen drawing rocks. Keep 'm comming

07 July 2006, 03:14 PM
Rebecca,razz and Nothingness, Thanks for the encouragement! =p

Intervain, thanks =] I gotta start working on the concept again man. Have already paused for sometime!

Glenn! Wow you've seen Hogarth's sketchbook! That must be really inspiring! Anyway haha, that drawing's in red as all my (yes ALL) ballpoint pen died. (I'm a nemesis of ballpoints man...)
Indeed I feel that I'm still pretty uncomfortable with digital painting and doing long charcoal drawings.

It's like it just doesn't turn out nicely and I get so impatient with it. Will try to practice more and overcome them! On the other hand I really feel the ballpoint synergising with myself haha!

Thanks again everyone =D
Updates soon

07 July 2006, 06:14 AM
Hey BNN!

Wow, needed a while to go through your thread, such a lot of work in a short time:eek: !
It's absolutely amazing to see your fast improvement here, I really enjoy your drawings:thumbsup: ! I'm curious to discover how your digital painting may come out if you bring them a little bit further, there's so much potential in it!
I'll definitely come back soon to see more!:)



07 July 2006, 01:44 PM
seems tomorrow is the last day :banghead:

07 July 2006, 03:32 PM
Nothingness, no worries, even if I exceed the deadline I'll still complete as many heads i can, maybe even 100. But then again I must start working on Burne Hogarth's excellent studies. Been pretty caught up with work and events around. I must say that I learn damn alot from this 50-Heads Workshop! Really fulfilling!

Yo Sabrina! =D Thanks for visiting my thread!
One day, I must sit down and patiently start working on these digital pieces. To be honest these 'quickies' took pretty much the same time for the pen rendered pieces. I just can't get used to the workflow using digital means suddenly. Yea I've been using tablet for 3 years.
I've been experiencing the same kind of difficulty when it comes to charcoal drawing too! (yea I think I've mentioned this before but yea lemme just say again)

Anyway, actually I'm pretty interested to get an easel and practise at home. Ya so fellow friends here, is it feasible? Maybe gimme more input to the mediums I can try? I am currently very interested in tradition medium (including pastels after seeing Dominique Louis's excellent work)!

Updates for the day:

23(24?)/50 heads

By the way if anyone's interested, here's some of my old works in deviantart.

07 July 2006, 03:32 PM
hi BNN, you seem to be really doing well here, love your pen studies, real volume in them i see (oops, sounding like Yoda there lol) and looking through your work you`ve really made progress.......keep up the good work....i`ll be like Arnie, 'i`ll be back' :)


PS - visited singapore earlier this year, lovely place and interesting country, very hot!

07 July 2006, 07:56 AM
I'm loving your studies BNN. I especially like the heads in post 113 and 114. Rebeccak told me you were doing some pen studies so I came over to check them out. I definitely have something to learn from the way you creat volume and use a thicker outline. I like that.

07 July 2006, 03:25 PM
Yo krispee! Thanks alot for your compliment! =D Anyway yea, Singapore is pretty cozy, BUT REALLY HOT.

Hi Christian =]
Glad you learnt something from my studies =] Let's inspire each other!

Anyway, no heads for today, my net was down yesterday, so i'll prolly scan the head I did yesterday and some animation studies I did just now.

07 July 2006, 03:49 PM
Urgh.. Wasn't really productive for drawing these few days.

Head 25:
Didnt really like this, was out for some experiment yet it became sorta screwed up. But well... haha
Some animation 'thumbnails' I did for 'Superhero Jump'
Actually this looks more like a super villian =p

07 July 2006, 01:09 AM

these last studies are looking like an alien ;) Very funny everybody seems to see something totally different :)

Your heads are looking nice ... even if I personally hate the ballpoint pen... I am always geeting very dirty ... I hate this blue ;)

But if you can live with this ... keep at it looks good :)

07 July 2006, 11:00 AM
Hye BNN :)

Great to stop by your thread and see your work :) I joined in time for the 50 heads and saw you there, am only now getting time to browse around a bit :) delighted in what I find on this great forum. Your progress is lovely and wishing you heaps of luck and enjoyment in your studies..

a. :thumbsup:

07 July 2006, 10:26 AM
Yo Trunks, I think it looks like an alien to you as it's in perspective haha. So the head is bigger than the body =]

Hi Frejasphere! Thanks for your encouragement =D Good luck to you too!

Anyway updates for today

ok... perservered for another 45 minutes haha...
Doing portraits digitally can kinda kill... No idea why... But ok I'm pretty satisfied with this haha =]

07 July 2006, 01:51 PM
Beautiful head studies!

07 July 2006, 02:28 AM
Hiya BNN

The last digital ones look lovely :) great expression in the eyes.. you have really captured that beautifully. My only comment would be that because you have narrowed his jaw-bone (mainly the left side shading in second one) he looks more feminine... Nice sculpted feel to the shading on forehead and nose :)

keep it up and take care :thumbsup:

a. :)

07 July 2006, 06:31 AM
Hey Long,

wow, head # 25 is impressive, I'm always amazed to discover this patiently shaded traditional pieces:) , but I think you've also done a really good job with the last digital, great expression:thumbsup: !



08 August 2006, 03:03 PM
Yo Sabrina and Frejasphere! Thanks for the encouragement! =D

Anyway guys... Sorry for not updating. I'll need abit of time before i'll post more drawings again. Next weeks deadline for ALL ASSIGNMENTS........

Currently rigging for my animation assignment -.-

08 August 2006, 03:31 PM
Hey great progress here!

08 August 2006, 04:25 PM
Yo Trunks, I think it looks like an alien to you as it's in perspective haha. So the head is bigger than the body =]

No, it looks like an alien because it has a tail ...

this last head is very nice done ... good job :)

Keep it up :D

08 August 2006, 05:11 AM
Hi BNN :)

just wishing you luck with your assignments - hope all goes well

a. :)

08 August 2006, 03:00 PM

Great to see your new work! :) Hey, it was great to meet Steve and some of your classmates at SIGGRAPH! Everyone was very sweet, and I think they might even have been staying in the same hotel as we were (the Doubletree) since I ran into one girl from the group in the elevator. :D I posted some pictures here ( I hope you might make it next year in San Diego! :)

Keep up the excellent work, and keep inspiring! :)



08 August 2006, 03:20 PM
Hello BNN I really enjoyed looking through your thread and also realy enjoyed your ink work. I think its amazing how you can create such nice works with a pall point pen.:thumbsup:

08 August 2006, 06:29 PM
Thanks everyone for the encouragement! T-T

No updates, just to reply to tell you all that I'm still alive (barely actually)

Haha Rebecca, i thought Mr Steve was a very interesting guy =D Like the way he teaches =p

2 more days and I can rest for a LITTLE (literally) while...

10 October 2006, 12:46 PM
Hey BNN,

how's it going?
Hope you through those school assignments well...
Wish you would post a bit of sketches if you could...
Did you do any more ballpen studies? I loved those!


10 October 2006, 04:38 PM
Hey I'm back! Life's a total rollercoaster ride for me in this two months.

NR43! Thanks a lot for your concern! Didn't really draw for this period of time as I took a rest plus a series of events happened.

Not back with works though.

But no worries I think by my next post my drawings will come back. (By tomorrow!)
School starts tomorrow so it'll be a new chapter of life for me! =D

Cheers =D

10 October 2006, 06:59 PM
BNN! Great to see you back. :) I look forward to seeing your new work.



10 October 2006, 04:08 PM

Yo Rebecca! I'll do my best in the following time to come!

To start off, some warm ups

After staying from drawing for a period of time (which I think it was pretty essential for me)
Gonna pick up some bits and pieces back again!

11 November 2006, 11:02 PM
Wow, you get the prize for greatest improvement. I love your head studies for the group project. Lovely work.

09 September 2007, 07:31 PM
So whatever happened to this thread? Did you stop drawing? Are you still pursuing your career?

12 December 2007, 06:09 PM
After a really long break from CGTalk, I decided to return.

1st of all, let me apologise to everyone who was watching my progress and looking for my works. Some things happened in my life which almost made me give up a lot of things including my health.

I'm back with a positive attitude and certainly hoping to improve more than ever.
However I've returned not with a competitive heart but a heart that yearns for enrichment through art.

So, sorry again!

Let me post a few sketches I did over this 2 weeks. Pretty image intensive so bear with me!

Starting from the earlier ones.

Anyway, I'm not just filling this book with pure studies and practices as you can see. Some 'weird' and 'funny' parodies are around too. So please pardon me if they look offensive to you in anyway =p

Oh... I've recently (3 days ago) gotten into watercolor and I thought it'll be good if I can get some input on it too. I'm trying to develop a better sense of colors through it certainly.

Hope you guys enjoy my sketches =D

12 December 2007, 06:11 PM
Round 2

12 December 2007, 06:12 PM

Sorry for the triple posting as I'm restricted to posting limited amount of images per post.

Thanks for viewing.

12 December 2007, 06:37 PM
Welcome back!

It's good to see these sketches and paintings.
I think art has a therapeutic effect on all of us so it's nice to hear you are learning to find confidence and joy in creating it.

Just stop apologizing because you don't owe us anything ;)

Welcome back! You were missed!

12 December 2007, 11:56 PM

I just went through your thread, from the first page, to the last..The biggest change that I noticed, is that in some of your latest work from the last two weeks, ...YOU HAVE EXPRESSED ...EMOTION..IN YOUR OWN WORKS:bounce:
It is like an actor just mumbleing the lines out, without expression or feeling.:sad:
SO, ..Keep alive the emotion that you have found in yourself, use it,don't let it use you..:) and continue to project it into your future works...Will for sure take your work, and you also, to a higher level.

12 December 2007, 05:08 AM
thats some return..pretty variety to see :D

12 December 2007, 10:06 AM
Hey there:wavey: !

Great to have you back around here and to see some of your expressive sketches and paintings!



12 December 2007, 03:23 PM
NR43 thanks for the warm welcome! I'm very glad to have your support =D

Glenn, I really agree with what you said. I think I'm using this flow of emotion and energy nicely as of now. Whenever I draw it keeps me peaceful and happy after that! Shall utilise it as much as I can. Thanks! =]

killermachine and sabrina, Thanks for the welcome =D I'll produce more works while I can.

Today's sketches. Feeling very productive today having quite a few sketches done. Had life drawing class too but I don't have my drawings with me now.

For the last sketch, I'm having a personal concept of drawings-within-drawings-within-drawings so this is the 2nd piece of the series. I'm having a lot of fun with it!

Been using a lot of markers lately to train on line economy and precision of strokes.
I think it helped a lot. =D

12 December 2007, 04:38 PM
Was looking through my thread from the start. Weirdly I felt inspired by myself. How should I say, I can see the passion I had then and the change I had since then.

Anyway presenting a WIP I did 3 months ago before I started this sketching spree.

A tribute art to my favorite Japanese singer. However after looking back I realised this has no composition, thought, emotions and feelings involved. If it's just rendering I believe anyone can do it with an extended amount of time

Just wanted to document these words here to serve as a learning process for me and hopefully anyone who reads this.

I guess it's more of using the brain and heart over the hand and eyes.

12 December 2007, 03:08 PM

It's horse day!! It's the 1st time I've seen horses live!! I was SOOOOOOO HAPPY!!
I think some people might think I'm crazy but I was smiling throughout the session!!

Drew them in grey markers before I started going through them with black gel pen (except the 1st two)

Was testing out more methods of rendering and describing backgrounds.

12 December 2007, 06:06 PM
Hi ...Yee ..:)

Wouldn't mind seeing you try your hand at doing a couple of water colors of those horses, now that you have a general feeling for their form, and them...Just something loose and simple, like the hand print in red, or the other one with the faces in red and yellow, below it on the previous page...with just a color wash for a background...Add a little purple to that yellow, and you will get a nice GOLDEN COLOR..:)

12 December 2007, 06:57 PM
Hehe Glenn, I really really enjoyed doing the hand print as I could express my feelings more than I ever could from last time! I should do more than this and try crazier stuff!!

And yes I feel extremely inspired by these creatures, they're so graceful and beautiful and for that period of time I was really mesmerised by their beauty. But I'm kinda guilty as I did not practise much of horses beforehand (horse drawing started like 2 weeks ago actually).

I'll try out on watercolor! Actually I'm planning to make my sketchbook as interesting as possible as I do not want to make a portfolio as of now (I'm graduating in 4 months from my design school). So more watercolor would certainly be good!!

Thanks for the tips man! I didn't know yellow with a lil purple gives u gold! =o
Will experiment it!

12 December 2007, 08:27 PM
Hei your stuff is really lovely!
keep it up!

12 December 2007, 03:16 PM
Thanks Sk3tcher, I will keep it up =D

Is it me or that the server's kinda slow lately? I have to refresh 3-4 times to reply!!

That aside, sketches for this 2 day.

The watercolored version of the 2nd in the series of Drawing-within_drawing-within-drawing.
This is a very special painting for me as it speaks about my friend. I drew this drawing as I was chilling out with my long time friend (almost 10 years I think). I'm just 19 and I think i'm still pretty much a kid, but my friend has already learnt how to smoke. No offense to smokers but I strongly disapprove of smoking and it hurts me to see him smoke even though my reaction towards him is not strong. Not a very happy piece but my emotion was injected into it. I'm contented with it (but not the fact that my friend started smoking =[)

Rest of the stuff
Karaoke session with friends, didn't have much time to sketch so I quickly drew what I can XD
Feeling handicapped when I do this as I do not have my grey marker hence the lower quality in perspective and proportion. It also serves as a reminder to analyse form and not to copy just the outline. Also, I believe it's just that I'm not used or courageous enough to put the lines just using the pen alone. It can be done since I've done it with markers.
Decided to have abit of studies and making my own notes so this book will become more valuable instead of just a 'good looking' sketchbook.
This page marked the death of my newly bought 1.0mm gel ink pen. I bought it 6 days ago and I'm surprised I actually used it up within a week. It's a good yet a expensive thing =x
Playing around with cross contours to create depth.

To analyse the form and not to copy, so I can invent it even without reference.
Drilling this message into my mind..........

12 December 2007, 03:24 PM
Nice colour sketch!

I was thinking maybe the karaoke sketch could add some lighting information in it. Can play up certain elements and play down others.
I like the little dots and hatches you put in, it has the kind of Children`s book illustration feeling to it. I really like that style, but I can`t seem to get it right ;S

12 December 2007, 06:03 PM
Hi BNN - I really love your loose sketch strokes! And wow on the female portrait - truly impressive :thumbsup:

12 December 2007, 06:39 PM
zs, Actually I was experimenting on the aspects you where saying e.g lighting and the playing up and down of elements. But I think I can be more adventurous. Was feeling quite reserved without my grey marker as a base I suppose. Thanks for the compliment.

Hello Intervain, thanks for the compliment man I really dig your works so it's a huge honor! I did photo ref quite abit for the portrait anyway, but yea I'm not continuing it anymore. It was a good exercise and test anyway!

Ok didn't do much today. More like a rest day from sketching. But still I had a lil gestural digital painting here.

I tried drawing it 2-3 times and it didn't turn out to be what I want, got a little frustrated.
Turned off the 50% grey base layer and worked with black and white. And I think I managed to capture the energy!

Reference from tizianoadmirer ('s horses at the 15 minute sketchathon! (

12 December 2007, 09:59 AM
Whoa Nice to see a Singaporean here in this forest of artists...

Man! I just wished that my drawings are just as good as yours and my bad drawings skills have crippled my wild imagination from going anywhere....

12 December 2007, 10:45 AM
Hey TTYO, I didnt realise you're Singaporean!

Thanks for the compliment but I think I have a very very very long way to go as well!

I think it's important not to put our skills and level down as we compare it to others. All of us start from somewhere! We should acknowledge the fact that we will all improve through practice and things will feel better!

Jia you =p

12 December 2007, 02:15 PM
Yup I am a graduate from a Polytechnic. And I really shame my poly with such low quality drawing.... :P

12 December 2007, 02:34 PM
Were you from NYP DMD?

Anyway sketch for today

I think my sketch during train rides and doodles at home are very distinct. Done without reference so you can see me getting lost all over the place while I was watching TV =x

Was looking thru Rebecca's workshop thread about cross contour and I was very awed with the way she meticulously place down each and every strokes with varying pressure and weight to describe form. So I guess this page was pretty influenced by it. However using micron pen to create varying line hurts my wrist as I was holding it too tightly!

It's fun to do so anyway.

12 December 2007, 10:56 PM
Hi Yee, nice sketchbook!
I see you have been doing lots of sketches, they are looking good, some nice experiments.
That last horse is looking nice, you did capture the energy.
The other horse studies you posted earlier look nice too, but I think there are some anatomy issues there, especially with the legs... animl legs are hard to do... :D
keep it up

12 December 2007, 07:59 AM
Hi Yee!!... great sketches!!... I really like your loose strokes!

12 December 2007, 08:24 AM
Welcome back BNN! :) Sorry to hear you hit some rough times, but we all hit those. It's good to see that you have bounced back. :)

Love the latest post, those drawings are great! I am happy that the cross contour exercise was helpful - I did that drawing again after having forgotten about it for many years, and it really refreshed my memory, so it's good to see that it's been useful for you as well. Keep up the good work!



12 December 2007, 04:36 PM
Man... I typed a long post and firefox hanged on me. -.-

Ok.. Thanks for the encouragement and comment guys, I'll certainly hone my skills and observation skills more! I just got my hands on The Art of Animal Drawing by Ken Hultgren! Very nice gestures and teaching! Feeling inspired! =D

Currently doing some sculpture now, it's a stylised character for my sculpting assignment, I'll post some photo once I got my camera on hand!

For the routine train sketches now, I think I've gotten a little more comfortable with pen straight on the paper, but still need more practices!

12 December 2007, 05:25 PM
Mm, pen sketches, good. No erasing, hard. This little video (, if you haven't seen it already, might just give you an idea of how to use that pen. Because construction lines are not very nice to look at, because there are lots of straight lines there, they just make a mess of things. Try having them in your head and not puting much of them on paper. It might be just my preference of course, though I only use forgiving medium so that doesn't matter so much, hehe. But if I was to use a pen or anything I couldn't erase at all, no construction lines for me.
Don't want to point you in the wrong direction, so take this just a suggestion from me, it's what works for ME better.

12 December 2007, 06:14 PM
Hey that's a nice video! Honestly speaking it's the inconsistency my lecturer have been trying to drill onto us but he also expects good proportion!

I mean I'm doing these sketches on my own initiative actually and I've been enjoying it. For such sketches I think my objective is to capture as much as I can within the time frame yet adding a little mood and depth into it. I believe this is a very gestural and expressionist approach in a way.

That aside I think it's also slowly training me to construct the guidelines mentally but I still need much more time to instill it heh!

Thanks for the vid! I think that can help me a bit with what I'm doing anyway!

Was touching up one of the head studies I did long ago for my portfolio. Graduating in 3 months time...

12 December 2007, 03:27 PM
No sketches for today.

Doing up my website.

Here's a preview of it!

This is BNN's Office.
Done in Flash CS3 fully.

12 December 2007, 05:38 PM
BNN, we donot know each other but, one thing similar in u and me is lines.......beautiful work
keep it up

12 December 2007, 06:49 AM
cgyantra> Thanks =D

A little zbrush doodle after seeing members here like Glenn so happening with this amazing program.

BUT to be honest after 1 whole year of not touching it I've forgotten almost everything. So... Yea just a fun doodle.

12 December 2007, 08:11 AM
Hi Yee... Great to see you sculpting as well!!.. :bounce:

About "The Art of Animal Drawing" by Ken Hultgren, I have seen the book, but I feel that you should try "How to Draw Animals (" by Jack Hamm.. It has got much better drawings and the information contained is PRICELESS!!!

12 December 2007, 10:11 AM
anandpg thanks for the info!

I'll check it out soon! =D

Lil bit more of sculpting and playing with shaders etc etc...

12 December 2007, 09:56 AM
In desperate need of my weekly life drawing lesson.

Feeling very stale without drawing gestures so I went to pose maniacs and had some fun.
Was panicking as usual but weirdly I manage to calm myself down.
Lesson learnt: The looser I draw, the better I capture.

And with this few pages of gestures I felt much better.

Before that I was actually attempting the torso study but it didn't feel right. I mean it's been some time since I used back ballpoint pen again so it didn't feel in sync with me. Doodled a little here and there to get the feeling back.

12 December 2007, 11:34 AM
WOW! awesome stuff again!!.. beautiful, effortless lines!! keep 'em coming!!:scream:

12 December 2007, 03:03 PM
Wow, now that is a huge leap with the gestures! Keep going! :)

12 December 2007, 08:51 PM
Refreshed 10 minutes to be able to reply here. -.-

Thanks anandpg and Rebecca! I'll keep going =]

Was wanting to paint a digital portrait of a really cute local actress but suddenly it went haywired. And this was produced.

I thought it's pretty interesting though I didnt had much idea what i was doing =x

12 December 2007, 02:49 AM
HEY ...YEE ...:)

I see you have fallen back into that great grove with your lines..just like riding a bike after not doing it for awhile..a little shakey at first, but then it all comes back to you...GREAT to see that fluididity in your line work again..:thumbsup:

12 December 2007, 07:10 AM
Hey Glenn! Thanks for your ever encouraging words! Actually my lecturer didn't like me to use ballpoint pen as he thought the way I used was too stiff. So after some time of using a 'wetter' medium like a gel pen I wanted to see if I could apply some things I've learn into ballpoint. I guess it helped quite abit!

I think I should really credit my lecturer! He's a great local sculptor (which you hardly find in Singapore)
Here's his link:

Ok some works for portfolio. Gestures I did weeks ago using conte. I touched up using photoshop.

I guess even if it's a gesture work I should give it a title to 'upgrade' its value. So...





I hope the titles make sense or at least stir up some thoughts from you guys XD

12 December 2007, 07:50 PM
HEY ...Yee ..:)

I really like those conte gestures .:thumbsup: ..DO ALOT MORE OF THOSE ...:bounce:
That's a GREAT medium to allows for you to use your full energy, to express your emotion, through strong vibrant and fluid strokes. ...just like you have in those ones that you just posted.
Work on big sheets of newsprint with the conte crayon, and stand at arms length from the paper when drawing..hold the crayon between your first two fingers and your thumb,using the whole side , and also pointed tip of the crayon ..let the energy flow from your shoulder, and ending up in your wrist action..:)
KEEP GOING, ...KOOKING GREAT ..:applause: :thumbsup:

12 December 2007, 08:49 PM
Yes Glenn! That's what I've been doing for these gestures actually! My lecturer emphasis alot on the flow and energy/spirit of the figure before he goes down into anatomy etc etc etc...

One drawback about conte though, I can't really get details up, and for poses that requires foreshortening (like lying down poses) I tend to mess it up!

But yes, conte feels excellent. Some of my friends thought there's something wrong with me as I was moving my drawing hand like an orchestra conductor while I was waiting for the model to change pose. But I thought that worked very well for me and I could feel the energy as I move! I was testing out this with orchestra music also, works even better!

12 December 2007, 06:57 AM
Been compiling my portfolio works for my Grad Show.

I'm trying to integrate the artwork into the portfolio pages like it's all a piece of work. I hope it adds to the polishness and effort of my work!

Saros - The Beginning

12 December 2007, 09:35 AM
I like the gestures, very nice and economical.
When I do gestures, I always plot and draw out all the construction lines and it just ends up looking pretty messy.
You also see before my gestures during class and you know what they`re like, right? Can`t seem to plot down the contour lines with construction lines without the entire figure going slanted.

Anyway, nice sketches!

12 December 2007, 09:45 AM
IMO concentrate on the direction of the energy and capture it in 1-2 swings.

And I believe this is why I do dynamic poses better than quiet poses. I find it quite hard to capture the stillness properly.

But yea like Mr Calvin says, touch and go.

12 December 2007, 10:33 AM
Was celebrating Christmas with friends yesterday, didn't get to draw...

Today! Digital gestures as portfolio work!

I'm pretty satisfied with it.

Inspired by one of my favorite artist zhuzhu!
I did this piece from the right most to the left most. And I thought I was getting a little looser and more comfortable with what I was doing!
Reference from my local newspaper.

Glamour Galore
Hope you guys like it!

12 December 2007, 07:18 PM
Before I continue this post.


Ok, I wanted to do a photomanipulation of my own picture to put as part of a portfolio work. But an accident changed the whole plan. I was using curves adjustment layer and I accidentally deleted the layer mask, and a whole new concept came out. It's still in progress, i wonder if i'd finish it though...

But here's my thoughts, art has to be you, not just about techniques and whats not. So I threw in what I like and made a very fun art, for myself. XD

Ok getting lengthy....

This will look familiar if anyone of you guys watch an anime called Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann! It's heavily inspired by it and I hope you guys have fun viewing this WIP.

I might continue, or not. Hmmm....

12 December 2007, 08:07 PM

It's a wow experience for me up till now. When I was working at this 1 hour of time, I was having pure fun. Ignoring how the final image will look like, I placed bold and contrasting values which I never dared or could.

I think every work I do should give me this kind of feeling and drive! I'm starting to find it!
I've decided to finish this piece =D

But it's 4am now, I'll continue tomorrow! XD

12 December 2007, 06:22 AM
hey Yee!!!.. this is cool!!:thumbsup: what are you planning for the background?

12 December 2007, 07:30 AM
I`d say probably space, stars and planets.. with some galaxies thrown in for good measure. ;DDD

12 December 2007, 09:42 AM
Yo Anand! Thanks =D For the background... I'm thinking along the line of something epic? Not very sure as of now haha XD

zs> LOL

More updates, was working on various details on the body and move on to the arms. Still fixing the values for the arms before going down to legs.

Resting for now as my wrist hurts after painting for sometime =x

12 December 2007, 11:43 AM
Hi ..Yee ..:)

It looks like you were't afraid to expess your feeling/emotion/spirit through the use of color, in that first version, with the intense red,....but then you got afraid and decided to subdue that first burst of emotional energy/feeling...don't be afraid of what others think,...go where others dare not go, because of their own fears...:) ...Just express yourself,forget about what others may think,and you will find yourself. You will also be much happier in the end.
CHECK OUT THE WORK OF ...FRIDA KAHLO......if you have the chance. Study how she uses color to project EMOTION/FEELING.

12 December 2007, 12:23 PM
Hey Glenn! Thanks for your interesting insight! Actually I masked out the red background 'try' to get a better sense of values as others say grey is a good neutral color that won't affect your color and value sense!

I turned off the layer mask to reveal the red right after I see your comment. I think! You're right! I should let my emotion lead to the outcome of the painting!

I'll let this piece be just purely experimental 1st! It's getting more and more fun =D

Thanks Glenn!

12 December 2007, 04:06 PM
Thanks to Glenn! I was having real fun with this piece. I'm actually wondering if I should go back to do all the other stuff I was doing or just stop at this.

I got a feeling this will be the end of this piece. When it's done I'm actually smiling to myself like an idiot infront of my monitor!! XD


TENGEN TOPPA BANANANA (well yes BNN stands for banana, long story)

Should I put this at my portfolio as an introductory art to myself?

Anyway this is the 2 photo that I used.
Yes it's me, the fat me under the super-robot-facade XD

12 December 2007, 04:27 PM
You´re crazy buddy, I like that. : )

I was discovering your sketchbook this morning. Lovely pieces and studies.

In some of your sketches you drew a very interesting "musculature", very fleshy and organic. I´d like to achieve a little bit of this in my drawings...

Anyway. Have fun with your art. That´s the most important IMHO.

12 December 2007, 04:37 PM
Agnaldo, thanks for the compliment! =D Yea... I'm really enjoying this piece a lot alot! In fact I believe it's the one piece that I have most fun with! Anyway, hope you'll enjoy or even learn from my thread in the future! =D

Integrating it into my portfolio layout!!

12 December 2007, 06:08 PM
HEY ..Yee..:)

Are you sure your not from MEXICO ...:) I love the optical vibrancy/movement of it...I know that my color theory teacher that I used to have many years ago, would also love it...we were both children of the 60'S THE COLOR GENERATION..OPTICAL ART :)
I was tinking that maybe for an experiment, try, with the smooth version above the last one posted,...Maybe put a thin gold band frame around it, with a black background on the outside of the gold frame,...this will capture and contain the image and colors...and will make a nice format/layout for the front page/cover ...just a passing thought.
ANYWAY. KEEP GOING, and glad to hear that you are having fun, being you, with your art...that's what it is really all about., and is what will in the end, make you stand out/apart from the carbon copy crowd.:)
Don't get me wrong here,..alot can be learned by copying, ..but you also stand a pretty good chance of loseing your SELF in that process, if you are not careful..MORE can be gained by UNDERSTANDING, than by COPYING.
It's like walking on a highwire/tightrope...keeping a perfect ballance between the two extremes is the key to making it to the end of the rope/wire..:)

02 February 2008, 01:31 PM
Hi I'm back!

Been really busy preparing stuff for my graduation show.

Here's a portfolio I compiled.
I wanted to do something more special and memorable compared to those plastic sleeves where you place each work in. So I made it into a book form!

The content on the cover page is kinda lopsided but the overall quality is pretty good for a start. I'll go down to print a corrected copy soon!

02 February 2008, 04:18 PM
Hey, the portfolio looks great! And it's so cool to see some works from the 50 Heads Workshop in your book. :) Thanks for sharing, and congrats on your graduation! :)

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