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01 January 2003, 01:41 AM
Count me in, i borrowed a wacoom today and opened painter for the first time, damnit if one wouldnt celebrate that with making an entry here as first thing to work on.

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 02:06 AM
You are in too my beloved wife(insiderjoke!!!):love:

Waiting for ya first wip.
And btw... ya will love the wacom for sure!!!!!


Tommy Lee

01 January 2003, 02:15 AM
My Character:

Njorun is a nightcreature, she holds our most precious dreams close to her heart and guards them from evil.
The dwarfs calls the night "Dream-Njorun".
Njorun was once the godess of dreams, she had 2 hearts, one beating for her and one beating for the hope that dreams produce. In a battle with Sauron, he reached towards her chest and took the heart that beated for her own body and dreams, forcing her to decend into the night living only for the hopes of the people of middle-earth.

Well,will scan the doodles sometime this weekend :)

(Edit: Njorun is a dream godess according to the "snorres edda", a tale that describes the nordic mythologi, I figured that since the whole middle earth is borrowed from there, then I could keep the legacy up :p )

(Edit2: wohoooo, today is my 111:th birth... post :p )

01 January 2003, 07:25 PM
Njorun has 2 spiders, Nirna and Narno who send out their childern around the middle-earth to make litte spiderwebs above all the creatures beds to collect their good dreams and hopes.
Then all dreams ends up like little flickering lights in Njoruns web.
She collects the dreams and puts them in the hole in her chest where her heart should be.

Sauron has her heart and hopefully, one day, someone will bring it back to her, letting her give back the sheltered dreams to people and put her own heart back where it belongs.

She lives in the outskirts of lothlorian and all living things loves her and wants to be near here, they love her so much that some flowers and trees have started to grow on her.

She lives inside a tree and the tree grew her little wistles and pipes to play on, letting her play a lullaby for all the children of middle earth.

Isnt this just sugary sweeet :p

01 January 2003, 07:51 PM
Hey Alice, nice idea.
Tolkien did indeed take a lot from the various incarnations of the Edda, as well as other nordic sources, so your idea blends in quite well, although it might be just a little too sweet. On the other hand...maybe not. I mean, Tolkien did
include Tom Bombadil....and he's hardly subtle. ;)

01 January 2003, 07:59 PM
Yes, I almost chocked on the sickly sweetnes as i wrote it :P
But then i added the 2 spiders and thought about drawing her as a nice tree-goth-like creature with one spider on each shoulder.

She prolly was a verry strong and beautiful creature once, but has becomed something else since she doesnt have an own heart.
Sorta like gollum, but faded and not passed over to madness :)

Tanx for the input :)

(Edit: and heck, considdering EVERYONE prolly will make gore wonderful evil creatures, someone will have to even the statistics up and put one in for the good guys :wip: )

01 January 2003, 10:04 PM
Well, this is how she looks right now :/
Should I scrap the idea?
Its not like the one who guards our dreams could look evil.
Oh well.

01 January 2003, 10:12 PM
No, stick to the idea...
but you could make her look older, she looks quite young right now. If she fought Sauron, she should look a little wiser, more elegant, if you get my meaning.

01 January 2003, 10:17 PM
Good thing, thanks!
(sheŽll prolly end up wrinkled like an old turtle :p )

01 January 2003, 10:21 PM
Hey....ernie..hehe it's been a while...nice your artwork....can't wait to see the finished piece....keep it up:thumbsup:

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 11:04 PM
I have to agree with culann...

anyway I like it!:beer:

01 January 2003, 12:52 AM
what ever you say dear :)
hi Remi, thanks for stopping by, where the holidays nice?

well, doodled a bit to see how she would turn out. Im a "dogsitter"( :P ) tonite, taking care of a dog called Kata, or Kate in english. Shes kinda cute and the best thing about her is here ears, if you wondered why I keep hanging on to thoose weird ears :)

01 January 2003, 01:15 AM
well, she needs something to ride on, think I will make her a Woc and attach 2 horns to its forehead.
Or Im just gonna go to sleep :p

01 January 2003, 08:32 AM
I liked her younger, but older makes sense too. I know it's 2d, but she would look nice in 3d (any of them):thumbsup:

01 January 2003, 11:04 AM
When I said older, I didn't really mean old. :)
I was thinking more along the lines of 'Galadriel-old'. Her features should look timeless, as if they stood under no influence whatsoever, as usual with Gods.
So, basically, you could show her age by paying a lot of attention to her eyes, which express her wisdom, while keeping her features more like a young woman. But of course, it's entirely up to you.

01 January 2003, 07:29 PM
but hey, on the other hand, all the people i have seen so far in the movies have been good looking (female ones I mean) Maybe a woman looking abot galadriels age but with something different, like a burn from a fire or something ...
i dont now, she old now anyways :)

IŽll keep on working on it and maybe do a serie of pictures from young to old or something..
Tanx for the input!

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 10:19 PM
MY suggestion: DO what ya like most!!!!!!


01 January 2003, 01:45 PM
Tommys post makes me wanna cry and go back and work in the beautyshop :annoyed:

Oh well, update:

Edit: guess the problem with the arm will go away when i add colour and make the whole sleeve dark.

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 02:11 PM
Shut up Alice...ya doin fantastic....:thumbsup:

Here is a little help for the arm prob...just a little tweak:

01 January 2003, 02:16 PM
thats true, tanx tommy!

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 02:25 PM
No prob!:beer:

01 January 2003, 05:43 PM
great concept Alice. I really like the dream catcher concept with the spider webs and you've managed to catch a very grandmotherly feel with her expression. :applause:

01 January 2003, 08:29 PM
Fantastic work, your style is great!

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 03:55 AM
UPDAAAAAATE!!!!!:wip: :wip: :wip:

01 January 2003, 08:50 AM
Wait a month or so, I mean, I dont want to kill myself working :p
rather, truth is, i need to do some real work and learn painter as well :)

01 January 2003, 11:28 AM
I think I liked the younger version better (njorun_2). Can't say why, it just appealed to me more than the elder one. Excellent work so far Alice. I love the style. Very adorable. :love:

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 12:02 AM
:wip: :wip: :wip: :wip:

01 January 2003, 01:57 PM
Maybe you could put the old and the young in? they both look good and it might be a nice composition.

01 January 2003, 04:16 PM
Im thinking about changing the concept a bit and do a good-dream godess (njorun) and almost... ofcause, a bad dream godess, that way i can have a little fun aswell :)

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 05:33 PM
Sounds great Sweety!!!:thumbsup:
Till the new concepts:beer:

01 January 2003, 07:44 PM
oh well, started to shade the old woman, considdering tommy helped me out with the arm and that the idea of first shading in black comes from him, I do feel like I own him :D

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 09:16 AM
Oh thanks my beloved mistress:bowdown:

IŽm glad that ya donŽt throw that concept away. I like it alot.. It has such a granny feeling to it. This turns out great:applause:
She fits absolutly perfect in the Tolkien-universe!!!!

Laterz sugar


01 January 2003, 04:51 PM
oh well, started colouring, will draw more of the jacket she wears.
I feel like drinking beer.
/me hands out some.

01 January 2003, 04:53 PM

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 07:37 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

01 January 2003, 07:52 PM
Looks good, nice colouring and shading. :)
I'm still having difficulty believing that this nice elderly lady fought Sauron once... ;)

01 January 2003, 03:03 AM
Looks like Yoda finally got a sister



great pretty old lady you have there
nice colouring

Search for Mucha's art. See his art nouveau paintings and what he did to flowers in his paitings. Maybe it would look nice on her.


01 January 2003, 07:56 AM
Thats awsome! You're awsome! :D

Tommy Lee
01 January 2003, 11:23 AM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

01 January 2003, 02:35 AM
Ugh! Compression is killing the detail you have going on with the flowers in her hair. I can tell you spent some time on them ... I just wish for a better image (I'll go check the CGChallenge site).

01 January 2003, 02:05 PM
I kinda forgot about the challenge, and started off with a 3d character instead. Silly me.
Well, got acess to my host again so Its entered at the cgchallengepage. Will finish it tho :)

02 February 2003, 08:52 PM
back in wip :)
It was a great and fast start but i guess the long time tend to make one forget about it =)

02 February 2003, 11:48 AM
U ROX!!!!:buttrock: nice.

02 February 2003, 11:15 PM
tanx :)
Its supposed to be a wodden frame, once Im finished with it .

02 February 2003, 02:47 PM
will do something better off the frame...

02 February 2003, 03:40 PM
Hey I like that frame Alice. I don't know why you're saying gah. Add some highlights and contrast maybe.
I don't normally find old people cute, but she is.

02 February 2003, 05:45 PM
I guess I said GAH! just about the time i realized that i had to ad them hightlights by hand, i tried several different filters and layer stylez but it all looked horrible :p

But thanks :)
She looks a lot like my granny, exept for the hole and the ears, but the otherwise, the moss is spot on! ;)

02 February 2003, 10:07 PM
Better and better! U got style!

02 February 2003, 07:00 PM
Nice character Alice! I like the concept a lot...and I'm partial to the old folk:D I think the frame adds a nice touch:thumbsup:

Tommy Lee
03 March 2003, 07:07 PM
Its great like it is!!!!!:thumbsup:
Grannystle rulez:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

BTW...will reply to ya PM soon!!!


Tommy Lee

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