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02 February 2006, 07:01 PM
Kory Heinzen is entered in the "The Journey Begins Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (

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02 February 2006, 08:27 PM
Subscriber... Like your work style.

02 February 2006, 08:36 PM
Luck...?...wish u luck?...naahhh...u are going to kick butt$ and u know it. Have fun KoryH. I am glad to see u in this. :bounce:

02 February 2006, 08:41 PM
All the best, Kory. :)

02 February 2006, 08:53 PM
Welcome Back Kory, glad to see u here bud, good luck! Hope to see u finish this one through its entireity!:thumbsup:

02 February 2006, 08:54 PM
you too here too :)

so many 5D entries this time, good luck!


02 February 2006, 10:50 PM
Thanks for the kind welcome.
I hope that I will be able to keep up with everyone this time around. I will try to keep my idea simple so I can focus my efforts on making a few elements go a long way!

Best of luck to everyone!

02 February 2006, 10:57 PM
Pulling up a front row seat.........Best of luck kory....I look forward to a fantastic journey.....:thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 12:53 AM
Hey Kory,

Good luck with your entry and have fun in the challenge. Are you doing both challenges again....

03 March 2006, 02:26 AM
hi korey! glad to see you here again! miss your nice painting and 3d from GSO , hope to see more from you man!

03 March 2006, 08:24 AM
Hey it's nice to hear from some of the regulars!
So here is the deal.
I am going to work out some of my ideas over in my 2D thread.
And choose something from there and then work it up for 3D.
I have some good contenders in my head, I just have to get some sketches done.
Off to bed for now.

03 March 2006, 03:10 PM
y0 Kory

looking forward to what you decide on, the 2d stuff is looking great! love the atmosphere in the Hanzel concept, very ominous and mysterious.

03 March 2006, 07:42 AM (

OK some of you have seen this already, but who cares. I need this for the concept phase. This one started out in the 2D section, but I liked it so much I felt that it needed an extra D to do it justice.
Now off I go to design some cute Bavarian kids clothes!

03 March 2006, 07:46 AM
Wow awesome sketch and concept!!

And good luck!

03 March 2006, 07:56 AM
nice concept i like it.

03 March 2006, 08:03 AM
glad you see it my way!

just kidding! :D

excellentabulous choice! :thumbsup: :scream:


03 March 2006, 08:05 AM
Nice sketch. I'll be watching. :)

03 March 2006, 08:24 AM
an extra D to do it justice

this looks to have some great atmosphere to it..

03 March 2006, 09:37 AM (

OK now down to the real work.
Here is a first pass at doing some designs for Hansel. A little on the chubby side. But what did you expect from a kid who carries around a loaf of bread?

03 March 2006, 10:55 AM
Very nice composition and characters man, i like this one :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 11:04 AM
I like the sketch at the bottom, head tucked into the shoulders. I'd recommend pushing this direction further. Maybe his sister can be the one pulling him along, so he can be reluctantly still facing us a bit. It would be a shame to miss this face / pose...
And the french bread - LoL!

Great concept!

03 March 2006, 04:11 PM
Thanks dober.
I had the same thoughts about our little guy. It would be good to see his face.
I'll see what I can do.

03 March 2006, 04:16 PM
I definitely think we have to see Hansel in that pose nibbling on the bread facing us. That expression is priceless. Can't wait to see more!

03 March 2006, 04:26 PM
Totally stunning sketches!! Looking forward to see them in 3d.

Keep it up! :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 07:00 PM
Wow man cool character and great sketching!

03 March 2006, 07:39 PM (

Hansel's big sister.
I think they look good together.
See ya later

03 March 2006, 07:41 PM
Wow I love your sketching style!!

Looks great!

03 March 2006, 07:54 PM
Thanks vedic.
I did this one durring my daughter's Ballet class. So I guess i was inspired by some pretty cute little kids. I am glad you like them.

03 March 2006, 06:39 PM
ahh cool, nice to see you didn't drop this :bounce:

03 March 2006, 06:56 PM
Is she going to have the Princess Leia hair do. Keep the sketches coming, looking good!

03 March 2006, 07:44 PM
Hey Pig-- just moved over here. Thanks for keeping up.
dMonk---that hair is actually pretty historical. The buns are actually more in the back than the sides.
I need to start modeling soon because I am so slow. I am also going to brush up on my z-brush. no pun intended. I have added detail to models before, but never really gotten into character stuff with it. I want to learn Z-shperes and all that stuff. You know, like the big guys do it. I like to be challenged by the challenges he he

03 March 2006, 01:37 AM
I really like your painted concept sketch even its not created for this comp but as idea it is great. I will be watching this thread, there will be some big things going on for sure:D

03 March 2006, 10:35 PM
Hi KOryH,

fantastic sketches you show up with, "cute" concept!!! Can`t wait to see the first steps in 3D :) btw welcome to the challange...

03 March 2006, 10:48 PM
Terrific characters, Kory. (I'll be smiling for the rest of the day because of them :) )
Now where's the witch? :D

03 March 2006, 12:32 AM
hey, thanks for the comments.
I had fun with the characters. The only bad thing is that they are so full of style and cute that they are going to be a PITA in 3D. Well at least for me. With cleaqn shapes lke this, there is so little room for error. Things can go from cute to horrific pretty fast in 3D.

As for the wich, well, that would be fun now, wouldn'it . HMM maybe if I had the time I can sneek her in sneeky like behaind some trees. but let's not get ahead of ourselves...

Anyway I got some research done on the costumes and some trees. The ones I have in there right now are't to accurate to the location I was thinking of. But I think I can take some liberties. But I will have some more varieties of trees to add some visual interest.

See ya,

03 March 2006, 12:38 AM
Hey Kory,

I must say that is a wonderful concept sketch. This concept sketch is really making me try my hand in the 2d section of the challenge this time , didn't quite make the 2d challenge last time.

If you can get that feel of your sketch in 3d you will have a great entry , good luck with this.

03 March 2006, 01:17 AM
Fantastic character sketches man. I'm looking forward to more, and more, and more....... and more. I guess I'm trying to say, keep it up! :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 06:22 AM
cool sketchs keep going

03 March 2006, 07:00 AM
Dimitris said that you will kick an ass...
I can understand now what he was talking about...
You kick asses !
Awesome sketches ! The forest is just great and could be already a winner in the 2D section...
The character design is cool too !
I will follow this thread with great interest !
Thanks for sharing this !

03 March 2006, 07:05 AM
great sketches..

03 March 2006, 05:32 PM
Damnit another thread of yours to subscribe to :) Character concepts are looking real nice and I love your concept sketch for the scene/setting... Looking forward to see how this one develops as well!

03 March 2006, 08:11 PM
Ha there is so much to keep up with. some people are doing so well. Including some of you who have visited. I am doing some color sketches for the characters right now.
I think the figures are going to be the hardest thing for me to do. expect an update soon.
I am still in the design phase but I hope to be working on the characters in 3D by next week.

Any helpful modeling suggestions are welcomed!

See ya

03 March 2006, 08:55 PM
I realy love you concept!

Hey, say to me:
how much time you have to drawn you Idea? (is beautifull!)
My concept final concept I spend 4 hours... And my concept is very simple confrontation whith you concept...

03 March 2006, 08:22 AM
Woohoo! You're doing the Hansel and Gretel!

I love the colour concept and i can imagine this looking just fantastic with the extra 'D'!

Cool character designs too. Especially your podgy Hansel...



(eDiT: If you're still thinking of adding a witch, you could maybe just go for a dark silhouette in the woods... make it distinct with a hat and a stylised shape perhaps?)

03 March 2006, 08:04 AM
Concept painting rocks! Character sketches kick ass! Definitely looking forward to more!

*subscribed* :beer:

03 March 2006, 08:45 AM
The extra D! Great! I agree with you: the 2d illustration is spectacular and I think you'll make a wonderful 3D version of it! Good luck!

03 March 2006, 02:44 AM
Well I Think I should update this soon. I started with Gretel earlier this week. I didn't get too far. I am really trying to get the porportions to feel right. I also tried to do some z_brush stuff, but it crashed and I lost a bit of work. AH computers.
Anyway, I am going to try and push myslf to learn a couple of things so I may be a bit slow. I will post the model when I get home however.

Thanks for visiting

03 March 2006, 09:06 AM (

SO it begins. The hard part for me.
I am still working out the size relationships and form.
Then I will jump in to Z-Brush. That should be fun.

03 March 2006, 09:08 AM (

Here is the final drawing for Gretel.
I hope that I can get this look for the final image.

03 March 2006, 12:26 PM
Some more interesting sutff here, nice modeling start an cool sketch for posing the girl, nice emotion through her eyes, keep it up :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 02:07 PM
Very nice character. Like it!

03 March 2006, 03:45 PM
Great design! like you color.:scream: Good luck

03 March 2006, 04:16 PM
I don't think I can say this enough. You really have a fantastic style! I think your model is a good start. However, in your concept sketch her forehead is smaller than in your model. :)

03 March 2006, 09:27 PM
cool keep going

03 March 2006, 10:38 PM
i love your cartoony style...very cool:thumbsup:
good luck in both challenges :)

03 March 2006, 10:56 AM
That's a great concept. I like the atmosphere and the mistery you can feel in the middle of that wood. I will keep watching for your work.:applause:

03 March 2006, 11:20 AM
really nice character design for Gretel... she really got this German bavarian style with this traditional costume on. :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 11:22 AM
Gretel is so sweet... :bounce:

03 March 2006, 11:37 AM
Its going great. the only thing i can see is the nose. maybe make it a bit rounder.
God luck, im really liking your concept.

03 March 2006, 03:05 PM
The sketches are amazing! I hope you can achieve that in modeling. The models eyes could be bigger. They seem small compared to the concept.

03 March 2006, 10:15 AM
Hey Guys,
thanks for taking a look at the characters and especially Gretel. I hope I can get this feeling right in 3D.
I still haven't decided how much of the front we will see. I am hoping I can come up with a believable layout that would allow us to see the kids faces and emotions,

Theuni- I am glad you appreciate my research. I know I can't fool the real Germans.
Even though my name is super German, I have never even been there. I would love to be able to get tickets to the World Cup!

03 March 2006, 10:18 AM (

I worked a little more on this.
The eyes are still in progress. I haven't quite decided how I will model them. It may be a bit tricky to get the style I want.
I am still working on some z-brush tutorials so I can really brings this to life.

03 March 2006, 10:49 AM
The exagerated look od shoulders and else makes her look so sweet....

Nice work

03 March 2006, 11:00 AM
Hi Corey, great Stuff!

If you're aiming to hit the drawing, the hands are looking great - atypical for 3D modeling and very fitting! The dress looks too smooth, it misses the edges of your design - and the head isn't that far yet, but ... hotdamn!... looking good.

03 March 2006, 12:28 PM
lol cool updates keep rocking

03 March 2006, 12:51 PM
i really like your entry. you have such great paintig and modeling skills. keep it up :-)
gretl looks great by the way...

03 March 2006, 02:37 PM
Hehe...she's looking just like your concept. I think that you can try lightening the dark color around her eyes a bit.

03 March 2006, 03:19 PM
Excellent stuff Kory ! the modeling is great ! I really like the way you texture your models !

03 March 2006, 05:19 PM
This looks a lot better! I dunno if she needs that much zbrushing. If you can I would make it very subtle.

03 March 2006, 11:20 AM
Hey Guys,
thanks for taking a look at the characters and especially Gretel. I hope I can get this feeling right in 3D.
I still haven't decided how much of the front we will see. I am hoping I can come up with a believable layout that would allow us to see the kids faces and emotions,

Theuni- I am glad you appreciate my research. I know I can't fool the real Germans.
Even though my name is super German, I have never even been there. I would love to be able to get tickets to the World Cup!

Aaaah, you can bet on that pal! I will watch this with my German Eagle-Eyes :) And a little suggestion already for the costume... quillings around the bottom of her skirt would look more authentic. Only a humble opinion :) Keep going... great work!!!

03 March 2006, 02:07 AM
this looks great so far. your drawing skills are exceptional..that concept sketch is a knockout! and the gretel sketch is beautiful. liking the way the model is looking too.
you're bookmarked!!

03 March 2006, 10:00 AM
Ohh, the sketch is just great and the girl model look wonderful so far! Good luck!

03 March 2006, 12:27 PM
Terrible travel begins! An atmosphere very real.:thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 12:32 PM
the face of Gretel looks very cool! so much personality!
You're still busy with the yes you said, well, I'll wait a little longer for those then..
Looking very promissing...

03 March 2006, 11:55 AM
The model is coming out very well. Nice style.

03 March 2006, 11:58 AM
Liking that model! She looks good. Might be worth modelling the eyes using several parts, cornea, iris, pupil etc and then play with the textures on each to get the result you want?

Looking really good though, great character! :bounce:

03 March 2006, 01:10 PM
hallo... I´m an aunt to a boy, 9 years old. We was looking at some of the threads and when he saw your Gretel he said...

That´s how my wife gonna look like... :love: that girl is sooo sweet...
and I agree with him, she is sweet... :)

04 April 2006, 08:53 PM
Hey everyone.

Thanks for the support and the comments.
I did some more sketches for the design of some of the trees. I will have 4 different trees in the forest.
I also worked more on the Gretel model. I think it's looking good.
I will post tonight when I get home from work. I ran out of time this morning. The kids can't be late for school!
See ya soon!

04 April 2006, 05:25 AM (

OK here is Gretel, and she is almost done.
I just need to do the hair and finish some wrinkle details in the clothes.
then off to Hansel, our bread loving hero.

04 April 2006, 05:29 AM (

I did some more research and discovered that the forests in Bavaria don't quite look like the ones in my concept sketch.
However there are some scarry looking Linden trees that can be a thousand years old. I also sprinkled in some large pines and smaller ones for good measure. I think this will add a great deal to the richness of the forest.

04 April 2006, 07:45 AM
I love her expression, is really nice, I'm cucious for the upgrade...

04 April 2006, 08:29 AM
Wow nice! you really know your stuff!

Can I come and live with you? Hehe:D

Anyways keep up the great work :beer:

04 April 2006, 09:08 AM

If a wicked witch were to entre this contest, she'd probably be hired by several competitors to eat you first, as you have somekinda eye candy going on for your entry.

Stay away from forests and ovens, at least until your finished. :buttrock: :beer:

Oh, and since you seem to know so much about Enchanted Bavarian forests, make sure all the wildlife hiding in the bushes is actually indigenious to Europe, and not found only in eastern Tibet (just one of many treacherous pitfalls to be weary of when depicting a fairy tale.) :p

You're concepts sketches and 3D character work are really over the top fantastic. Always eager to watch the process of a pro. :applause:

04 April 2006, 05:10 PM
thanks Cent

Vedic- My house is already crowded, but dinner would be OK.

Ha Corey, You always have something funny to say. I will be sure to be a authentic as possible.

Models of the trees are underway, i will post them soon.

04 April 2006, 07:20 AM
Hey Kory,

I totally agree with you on youre forest research. These German Bavarian Trees look quit scary... as long as you make this forest dark and compact it will look authentic :) nice work on Gretels face expression... keep going :thumbsup:

04 April 2006, 09:49 PM
Thanks theuni,
it should be soon that I show the models. I am experimenting with z-brush some more.

04 April 2006, 12:47 PM

Great looking sketch of the trees and Gretel looks adorable.:applause: Looking forward to those modeled trees.

04 April 2006, 06:21 PM (

OK here are some trees in progress.

04 April 2006, 06:31 PM
On a simple tech note. the bigger tree is the same base mesh with different displacement maps applied. I have also did a simple bone rig on the trees to twist and bend them to add more variation. It should go a long way to make the trees look unique.

Next... the large pine wich will be more difficult.

04 April 2006, 07:01 PM
awesome trees!
can't wait to see more:))

04 April 2006, 08:26 PM
Very promising trees, they looks quite realistic comparing to the cartoony girl, but the mix will surely bring something interesting, i'm looking forward for sure :beer:

04 April 2006, 08:28 PM
hahah love the expression on Gretel's face =) I think you said you're still working on the hair... that's the only thing I would've said to give that a little more so it comes closer to your concept drawing. Love it though can't wait to see Hansel!

04 April 2006, 10:04 PM (

I did some more work on the trees.
I am almost done then I just need to render a hundred of them or so.

04 April 2006, 10:43 PM
Hey Kory,

Super cool trees, awesome job on them. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2006, 03:31 AM
lovely work..the toon shader on gretel is great! and the trees look superb. really good texturing there.

04 April 2006, 05:25 AM
really really great texturing and modeling. :thumbsup:

04 April 2006, 06:30 AM
Hey pal,

now these trees look really German :) Honestly they really look like those dark wood trees I guess you were looking for. Should give some really nice "deep" shadows... great work, keep going, oh btw I know what you mean when it comes to posing trees... take a look at my thread. Nice idea to give them a bone system for arraying them. You should have started early with the trees, maybe I would have gone a different way with mine :)

04 April 2006, 06:12 PM (

OK here she is. with some minor tweaks she shall be done.
The next time you se this little one she will be with her little brother.

04 April 2006, 07:34 PM
so nice character and texture. i like the face expresion... it mostly looks like a toy .:) wish you doing well.:thumbsup:

04 April 2006, 07:44 PM
Perfect work with the trees.... really creepy looking.
Looking forward to seeing all of this together.

04 April 2006, 08:50 PM
just beautiful textures on her! love the understated colour. just a few points-her hand looks a bit big and ungraceful compared to the rest of her.I'd imagine 2/3 scale to what it is now would look better. and maybe a few more highlights in the eyes?
very nice work on this!

04 April 2006, 09:37 PM
thnaks for the comments!
shakes good call on the hands. However I will keep them the same size and I am sure once they are posed they will look a lot better. that is one of the tings I still need to fix.

theuni I am glad they are in the right ballpark. I think a bit of resaerch and reference goes a long way. In my opinion it always makes an illustration better if there is a bit of realness, or believability in it.

see ya!

04 April 2006, 10:38 PM (

here is my final concept.
with all the elemnts in there.
I will work out the staging in 3D. pose the characters and all. but in this illustration I was going for mood and putting all the things in there that I wanted to include in the final. like the different types of trees and grasses. the path that ends in the forest. And my favorite... the willkommen sign that really seems out of place. as forshadowing to the canyhouse of the witch.
I still may want to hide the witch in there somewhere. Maybe I will let that be a surpise in the final.
thanks for all the support!

04 April 2006, 03:53 AM
just a thought...your colors are very engaging but it is hard to even see your characters...since you obviously are skilled enough to create engagin characters most viewers probably would want to see them? good luck, very good work!

04 April 2006, 03:59 AM
whew, this is looking great. the trees are looking excellent.

the girls face is great, and the rest of her is very good, but not quite as finished looking as the face (imho). her clothes look too specular or something?

cool cool.

04 April 2006, 06:07 AM
Hey Kory,

nice comp test on the woods. I like the feeling of "damn do we really have to go in there!" :thumbsup: and Kory... talking about references :) I`m running around here on the "schwäbische Alb" now for about 3 weeks taking photos for the challange with my new digi cam :)

I think "oceanbluesky" is right, I really like this from behind camera angle but you won`t see much of the characters face expression... well, maybe you didn`t even planed to show them :)

04 April 2006, 06:37 AM (

you are one very multi talented artist..mucho respect! looks brilliant.

04 April 2006, 07:30 AM
great concepts and modelling so fary mate

keep up the great work :thumbsup:

04 April 2006, 08:18 AM
Nice concept, Kory. I remember this tale, it's nice idea to make the illustration :) Good luck!

04 April 2006, 08:39 AM
tiny kids going into a scary forest. awesome idea.

04 April 2006, 08:44 AM
Ooh this is coming togther really well... Can't wait to see more images of the forest with your trees and the shadowy figures in there :D Gretel looks great too, will be nice to see them both together! More updates :D

04 April 2006, 01:48 AM
Hey Kory, Hansel & Gretel... just love it, the style, the final concept, everything. Very nice work as usual:thumbsup:

04 April 2006, 06:00 AM
Alsome concept man, love the color and mood of it, you'll pull it off i know, surely an entry to watch, keep going man!

04 April 2006, 06:41 AM
you are one very multi talented artist..mucho respect! looks brilliant.

Yeah...don't u just hate this guy..:) work man...

04 April 2006, 08:58 AM
cool. :buttrock: your entry i one of my favorites here. the sketches, the colors and the models, really awesome work... keep it up.:scream:

04 April 2006, 03:02 PM (

More characters! The Crows who eat the bread crumb trail.
I hope they look hungry.

04 April 2006, 04:12 PM
I like your crows, I really wouldn't like to meet them in forest somewhere :surprised Good luck ! :)

04 April 2006, 04:44 PM
yes, you really get scared of them. Cool, keep on.

04 April 2006, 05:55 PM
they look hungry and sneaky... :applause: like them

04 April 2006, 05:58 PM
Thanks for the comments.
I am glad everyone is enjoying my progress. I am having fun putting this together.
soon I will have a whole scene and I can start working on the lighting and finalizing the textures. I can't wait to finish the modeling. I really don't get a lot of plesure out of modeling, I would rather light and animate.
Anyway, thanks for suggestions and positive comments. It keeps me going.

See ya.

04 April 2006, 05:54 AM
Hey pal,

your crows gives me a goose skin :) Just one little sidemark... I don`t think that crows do have feathers on their beak... or is it just an overdone bump map? :scream: Great work... keep us updated...

04 April 2006, 06:04 AM
Fantastic work so far :applause:

You done a great modeling and if you can recreate the mood of your concept sketch that will be a great picture :bounce:

Keep goin` :thumbsup:

04 April 2006, 11:29 PM

Rig your Crumb Robbin Crows so that they are whispering conspiratorially to each other, or mocking Hansel and Googly-Eyed gretel. Right now, they're forms are awesome, but they have the stance of Wicked Witch Lawn Ornaments (which would be cool too, as witches are fond of turning fauna into frick-a-frack.)

And, as a side note, I think humor inspires humor. No matter how sinister the vile the mood, your work is of the highest and most soulful humor. So don't you go a pointin' fingers and callin' us funny. Seeing your progress, I beleive callin' me a gutless crow crumb is far more appropriate. :bowdown: :beer: :cry:

You're idea of a sneaky witch is freakin' bitchn' too. Give her wart a hair. :arteest:

04 April 2006, 02:03 PM
I love this thread :) very cool work all the way.

04 April 2006, 02:05 PM
Oh wow, those Crows are just brilliant.
They looks so creepy and evil... just perfect!

Might I ask for more renders of them ;)

04 April 2006, 02:23 PM
Fantastic work all through here - I love the crows! So simple shapes with such strong expression - impressive!
Can't wait to see how this turns out :applause:

04 April 2006, 04:26 PM
Crows are looking suitably evil :) I'd suggest a slight highlihgt on the beaks to pick up the bump and because crows have slightly shiny beaks heh. Although that depends on wehter you want to go for less defined details and more for crow-shapes... Glowing eyes maybe?


I like ravioli ranchers idea of conspiratorily whispering crows :)

04 April 2006, 05:09 PM

Latest Update: Shading (Textured and lit): the Crows
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I could swear that the first from the right is looking straight at looks, :)

Happy Easter man!

04 April 2006, 06:22 PM
great work on the crows mate.. although i think a little spec on the feathers would bring them out a treat

keep on :thumbsup:

04 April 2006, 05:50 PM
Are you sure these are Crows….? Looks like some badass Ravens to me!:eek:
The kind that could pick the bones of those tow little walking lunch dishes clean in 15 minutes.
Great job so far, love the spooky Eventyr setting!

04 April 2006, 12:16 AM
HA I am glad people like the crows. And yes they are almost Ravens.
The idea is the same either way. I'll polish 'em a bit for the final.
I have some more props that I have done as well as some early modeling on our young male hero... Hansel.
Updates soon.

04 April 2006, 03:52 AM (

OK here is the lamp that welcomes the unexpecting into the witches forest.
Notice the painting of the witche's house on the post. I did in a Kincade style because I couldn't think of anything more frightening!
More to come

04 April 2006, 04:13 AM
Sheez!! The talent on this board is freakin' amazing! Great work Kory! Really love the lamp post -- super original, can't get over the gingerbread house painting, just brilliant. Love it! Also adore the red and white stripe base...might want to plant that rock more firmly in the soil beneath it with a heavier shadow? ...also may want to consider a lite spiderweb and moths flying around the light...also, the ground in the pot at the lantern's base is so close in color to the orange of the pot they are a bit hard to distinguish (but that may be your call)...and the rim of the pot itself is very, very slightly poly-faceted, as is the circular frame for your picture/sign...those two elements look low-poly video-game-ish, but, maybe that's a style you're going for?

Whoo...jezz, this is good. Really impressed...the sunset of your picture drawing out colors of the light in the gingerbread house's windows...the subtle irridescent textures of your lamp's green/orange/yellow base. Love it!

Even appreciated the cool mysterious blurred background you've used to compose this post. Can't wait to see more!

04 April 2006, 04:47 AM
Good call Oceanbluesky.
Thanks for the crit. Yeah I know the planter thing is low rez. I am just using it for the prop and character renders. It won't actually be in the final image.
I really like the idea of a subtle spider web for looks and for symbology. The moths for the same reasons. Don't be suprised that they show up in the final renders.
I really can't take too much crdit for the gingerbread painting. I totally lifted Thomas Kincade's style for this. He is the painter of light you know.

04 April 2006, 04:58 AM
Hey Koryh,

nice job on the sign... I think I know this guy. I once had to do a job where some puzzles where sold with images from him... I can remember a cottage at a rough coast scenario. It was a lovely image from Kincade, if it was him :)

05 May 2006, 12:46 PM
KOryH, hi how are its been long time friend, i remembered the alienware challenge then go through some entries where i found a post you wrote and a link in t for this thread sorry i missed this one mate, so far you are doing a great job i like those craws,the land and grass they stand on. great render what did you use for it?...

05 May 2006, 01:32 PM

05 May 2006, 09:25 PM
The crows are beautifully stylized..great characters! and the lamp is fantastic- just love the detail of the painting you've put in. very nice work.

05 May 2006, 11:30 PM
Your last updates are just great, I like the lamp, Keep posting dude! :thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 07:47 AM

Great texturing Job Kory ! :thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 04:02 PM (

Here are some different camera angles I am thinking about. More rocks and grass to come but they won't change this too much.
the crow need to be added as well.
Any feed back on the angles would be helpful.

05 May 2006, 05:35 PM
this is great! i'm supprised it doesn't have many views or replies.
I love the concept so much! and the that little girl model, it's just a wow!
keep it up. following your thread from now on!

05 May 2006, 07:01 PM
Wow this image is just SOOOOOOO cool!!! I love your crows -showed this to a few people -and theyve all raved about it too! Its scary and funny and is one of my absolute fave images from this competiton!

For me i prefer a combination of the top left and top right images. I like the top left because you see the misty passage going off between the trees (as in your concept drawing) -and i like the top right because the figure's size and position is closer to the sketch. I pretty much think sticking to the compostition of the photoshop sketch works incredibly well, because the figures are not so small that you cant see the wonderful detail- their size still allows you to display their emotion -but setting them within the vast landscape at that angle really accentuates their vulnerability -because in the sketch its still high angle enough to get that point across -but the nature of your background strongly emphasises the dangerous journey ahead of them. I think that creating a feeling of depth within your background (through use of the path trailing into the distance, obscured by mist, hinting at some veiled threat) will be a very important thing to retain! Also the path in the sketch leads the eye into the image -another thing id like to see you keep!

Just my two cents but i hope it helps with your decision!

05 May 2006, 10:01 PM
I like tho top ones too - too much plain ground in the bottom ones.

05 May 2006, 10:10 PM
Top two look the best. Maybe you can try a slightly different cam angle...something in between these two comps.

05 May 2006, 06:36 AM
Thanks for the good insights and opinions on composition. I think the one I am working on now is mostly similar to the top right. I am trying to keep all the elements of the sketch ion the final peice. Hopefully I can add some depth and interest with the extra time and extra "D".

Thanks again. More soon.

05 May 2006, 09:17 PM
I like the top views the best- probably top left is my favourite, but both are great. this is looking superb!

05 May 2006, 12:18 AM
thanks for the feed back shakes.

Man, I really need to start some real lighting and rendering soon.
I've think I have a couple of dozen layers worth of stuff to get too.
with all the grass and little things like rocks and debris adding up.
I think tonight is a rock and ground night.
It is times like this that I wish lightwave had some sort of layering capability.
I just have to be smart about it.

05 May 2006, 04:02 PM (

it ain't clean and it ain't pretty but it's a start.

05 May 2006, 03:51 PM (

Yikes! I have to mow the lawn.
Well, things are getting in there.
I will be making them pretty soon. I hope.

05 May 2006, 04:51 PM
excellent. Seems great. A little small for more crit.:)

05 May 2006, 05:27 PM
Ha yes you are right.
I was in a bit of a hurry this morning and resized it too much.
I will add some more stuff and update the thread later tonight.

I just want people to keep up with the process.
Things should really start taking shape now.

05 May 2006, 07:46 PM
You are sure about placing the lantern almost dead on the centre of the image ? Now it acts as a vertical line, dividing the image in two halves. I'd move it to either side. Moving it to the left could give you nice pool of warm light to iluminate the kids, but on the other hand it'll drag the whole composition to the left. You'd have to do something with the right part to balance it. Moving the lantern to the right looks bit pointless, but maybe, maybe...

Personally, i'd make the moonlght stronger, more cotrasty.

05 May 2006, 08:58 PM
superb lighting and grass. how long to render it with grass, just out of interest? looks brilliant-be good to see them bigger, but sounds like you're doing that. great work

05 May 2006, 12:22 AM
Good call azazel. I have been wrestling with that lamp for a while now. I really want some thing in there to allude to the witche's house. I may have to move the camera round a bit. maybe back to one of the lower angles that I had in one of my earlier posts. that may solve some problems.

for the grass. right now it is rendering at 1/2 rez in 9.5 minutes. I will do it in a seperate pass so it wont be to big of a deal. to rerender it. For the complexity of the scene I have it broken down in to sperate layers. for quicker render times and for more flexibility. I am also going to render out trees to use as flat cards and do a matte painting for the last 25% of the extreme background. I may even cheat a bit and do some camera projection texture fixes.
That's what some big studios do. That way I could even have a camera move one day!

05 May 2006, 03:50 PM (

well, here is a bit more work.
catching up on 24 and Lost cut into my work time.

05 May 2006, 04:37 PM
Definitely much better now. :thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 04:58 PM
Definitely much better now. :thumbsup:

I agree with this !

05 May 2006, 06:23 PM
Thanks guys.
I think I still need to scoot the kids to the left a bit more to open up the path into frame a bit more. The texturing is moving along and I have a bout a zillion more lights to get in there to really model the forms. and I still need to finish poor little Hansel.
I have a color scetch of him I will post as wel as some modeling progress.

It is hard to see in some of these renders but it is comming together nicely behind the scenes. i am excited to finish. I would also love to do a few seconds of animation when I am done. That would be so cool. If I didn't have a day job, kids and need to eat and sleep I would totally do it.

05 May 2006, 09:14 PM
looks so beautiful! I'd be tempted to crop the left a bit more, they're still a bit small.
I'm really impressed how you can match your 2d style in're very talented!

05 May 2006, 09:54 PM
Hey shakes
I was thinking that too. either by shifting the camera or the kids. I'll play with it some more tonight.
As for the traslation from 2D to 3D. Well that's been a long process. I have learned that the better your plan is(2d concept and design) that the better the results( 3d Final )
In my real job I would have spent some more time working out the more subtle lighting and the terrain. Right now it's a bit un defined in some areas. Lucky for me I don't have to give this to someone else to finish. I can work from the image in my head. I would hate to be the person who would have had to model or light from the concept. There would have been way too much guess work involved.

05 May 2006, 10:00 PM
As for the traslation from 2D to 3D. Well that's been a long process. I have learned that the better your plan is(2d concept and design) that the better the results( 3d Final )

well, it really shows in your work..very interesting watch you piece it together.

05 May 2006, 10:23 PM
There's something about the lighting and balance in the scene that is just perfect. It's like the lighting has become a character in itself.

Hansel does need to be revealed more, I think, but I really like the way this piece has grown. Every adjustment has been a solid step in making the image better and better.
Definite contender.

05 May 2006, 06:37 AM
Thanks for the comments.
Ok this migt seem out of left field But I am going to totally change the look of this one.
I have been struggling withthis because it was starting to feel a bit generic. S I am going to push the style a bit more. I would like to have more of a classic cartoon feel.
I should beable to use most of what I have already done. With a few changes to key elements. I hope it will solve some problems I was having.

05 May 2006, 06:40 AM
Yes !! Great athmosphere !!

Maybe, the main characters are a bit small (like it has been said)..

I should be cool if there were a bit fog, but realy down, like fog floating just above the ground..!

Good luck !

05 May 2006, 06:58 AM
Hey the grass looks great...would be cool to see a tutorial on how you polished it to this level of perfection sometime...looking forward to seeing more, especially Hansel, good luck!

05 May 2006, 07:20 AM (

I have been thinking about doing this for a few days and I finally decided to go for it. I really wanted to push the style and the peice was starting to be a little too generic. So here is my effort to push it a bit. I think this is more me and fits with some of my other work.
wish me luck!

05 May 2006, 07:28 AM
Lovely new image! I think this gives the crow characters higher prominence in the image -which is a good thing as theyre a bit special and you definately should show them off!

Its a lovely composition and totally works -definately gets two thumbs up from me!

05 May 2006, 07:45 AM
I really hope you'll success to have the same ambience in 3d than in 2d because it's really great.
Like the work you made on trees (in 3d).

05 May 2006, 09:12 AM
That sketch certainly solves all the composition issues, and looks sweet on its own. How's the 2d entry of yours by the way ? ;)

05 May 2006, 11:04 AM
Man, do I respect your decision!

There's 2 types of fearless artists.
One won't change what he's doing, even with negative feedback, because he believes in what he's doing.
The other changes course because it's not what he himself believes in, even though everyone is telling him his work is great.
I think the second type deserves even more respect.

05 May 2006, 11:12 AM
Yep i totally agree with glenn23, believe in yourself and create something true to yourself.

05 May 2006, 11:22 AM
It's just a masterpiece! Looks much better by composition than yours 3D drafts. Great work, keep it up!:thumbsup:

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05 May 2006, 12:44 PM
woo..that's extremely brave to switch this late..I've loved your entry so far, but you've gotta do what you gotta do, and this looks beautiful too. I'm sure it will look brilliant!

05 May 2006, 07:10 PM
Brave or dumb, we will see.
I am almost done with the new ground. It is looking pretty good. I will post some later today.
So far everything I have done before, with the exception of the ground, will be used for the new image. So at most I will be two days behind where I was. So it should be a risk worth taking.
Thanks for the support.

05 May 2006, 08:21 PM
This new color-concept is really great and I believe it focus better on the central characters... great atmosphere/composition... :arteest:

05 May 2006, 10:08 PM
Brave or dumb, we will see.

So far everything I have done before, with the exception of the ground will be used for the new image.

heh..that's a relief! for a minute there I thought you were possibly remodelling everything!!
that WOULD be crazy. you'll nail it for sure, got no doubts!

05 May 2006, 05:53 AM (

Here is something to tide you over until I have some more environment done. I still need to finalize him in 3D. Actually it is looking like he will be seen mostly from the back. so at least I don't have to model to much. MAybe I will finish him for an animation!
off I go to model plants and dirt.

05 May 2006, 01:15 PM
LOVE the character..he's fantastic- the arms are especially great!

05 May 2006, 09:20 PM (

Here we go.
I have some texturing to do and I have to finish placing all the plants. But I am back on track!

05 May 2006, 11:10 PM (

more work done and still more to do.

05 May 2006, 11:14 PM
gosh you're quick Kory! looking beautiful..awesome texturing and light. they still seem quite small in composition,I know you love your plants(hobby gardener perhaps?!), but I'd love to see em bigger!

edit: P.S.. LOVE the birds!!

05 May 2006, 12:23 AM
hey man..

what a nice atmosphere! & environment!

lovely:thumbsup: ...

05 May 2006, 04:06 PM (

OK still going. I had to get more memory yesterday to get some renders to work.
The real Hansel in finally in there. I just have to pose him. mor texturing to finalize and I need to get the grass working again.

Thanks for visiting!

05 May 2006, 06:48 PM
This new composition really works well. Nice update.

05 May 2006, 08:57 PM
Now I need to bring up the lights to get that nice soft glowy painterly effect.

05 May 2006, 06:00 AM (

here is an update to the kids.
More environment to follow

05 May 2006, 06:04 AM
lovely characters! top work mate

05 May 2006, 06:10 AM
nice work..I love the expression on the girls face..she seems a bit hesitant of the journey ahead :)

well done!

05 May 2006, 06:12 AM
Ooh Hanzel is just as good as Gretel's design! The lighting kind of reminds me of Ray Harryhausen's work, the 5 fairytales he animated. I think you may want torotate his head a bit so you can see his eyes, and bend his legs, but its not really necessary. Your characters are reading a bit too small on the overall scene.

05 May 2006, 06:47 AM
that forest is really suitable for the faceexpression on the girl... it is a great surrounding.

05 May 2006, 06:19 PM
Thanks guys.
The characters have been fun to do. I want to get just a bit more surface detail in there.
at the highr rez they look a little too plasticy. I wouldnt mind clay-like however.

05 May 2006, 07:02 PM
I hate ya...all the renders in this page alone are crying out " got a winner here!!!.."

Stop now ...go out and get a beer or something....take a



05 May 2006, 07:21 PM
Great, i love this like-clay apperance

05 May 2006, 01:04 AM
Hey let me say that this is one of the most coolets escenes that i ever seen in this challenge!....good work!:eek:

05 May 2006, 06:07 AM
Hey DIMI--- thanks. That is a very nice thing to say. Let's hope I can pull this one off.

Those are nice comments ID and MELKAO.

I am having some issues with the renders tonight. AAARRGG. I always want a better computer! mine is not liking me right now. I am being forced to break the scene up more than I wanted to. It means more babbysitting renders and a total PITA.
I still will finish, just a little stressful right now.

I hope everyone else is doing well!

05 May 2006, 09:34 AM
Wow... the colors and the atmosphere of this image are beautifull. Like the characters too ... simple and effective.

05 May 2006, 03:54 PM (

now that some technical issues have been overcome. I am back on track.

Still to do...
final grass and the back ground.
and tighten up the foreground

05 May 2006, 04:01 PM
man, everytime i check your work it puts a smile on my face..everything's great but one thing...shouldn't there be crumbles on the ground in original story?
keep on

05 May 2006, 05:21 PM
Hey cgoz,
thanks, that's what I was shooting for. Ah yes the crumbs. It's one of the finer details I still need to put in. So many little things to do.

05 May 2006, 08:13 PM
Wow man! I really like your style!

Your characters are wonderful, and I love your trees.

Keep up the great work:thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 08:17 PM
Absolutely extraordinary. I am beside myself that I am able to participate in a challenge with an artist of your calibere. This is just magnificent. Such a learning experience watching your comps progress. Utterly amazing! Congratulations on making such a wonderful image!

05 May 2006, 08:56 PM
start to be really good. Love the simple black birds

05 May 2006, 09:00 PM
looking superb Kory! the colours and lighting are just beautiful!

05 May 2006, 11:57 PM
Thanks guys.
I really like doing stuff like this. I always push myself create images that are independent from the tools that are used to create them. For me the tool is irrelevent. I have a picture in my head and I do my best to create it with any means at my disposal with function in mide of course.
In the end I hope it is just a good illustration that people will enjoy looking at. And if someone askes " hey, is that 2D or 3D?" then mission accomplished.

authentic-- I had my dpubts there for a moment. In 3D the is so much front end work that things don't always pull together as quickly as I wish they could. I have a plan and I am sticking to it and in a week we will all see how it turs out.
Render tweak render tweak render tweak render.

05 May 2006, 04:57 PM (

I got some beter trees in there to frame the kids better. There is some early compositing done and stand in fog.
Still more to come.
I still think I can sneek that witch in there even if she has to be painted.

05 May 2006, 07:34 PM
This is really a wonderful image! The only thing that I would do with this image would be to add a strong light source (an eery blue would work) at the bottom of the hill they are walking toward. This would rim light the main characters and help pop out some of the forground. But otherwise I can't see what else you would do with this! I think your pretty close to finishing!

05 May 2006, 10:18 PM
Thanks womball,
Yeah I really need to put polish on it like the subtle rim lighting and such to pull out form and off set the characters from the background.

05 May 2006, 10:48 PM
I've just had the pleasure of going through your whole thread and agree with the others that this is something very special. No crits from me. I love the trees and crows especially. I'm also glad that you decided to do the new composition. Good luck

05 May 2006, 11:45 PM
Thanks Mark,
I am glad you enjoyed the process. I am glad I changed the composition as well. I was really having a hard tme finding some thing I liked. I just had to get a little freshness to spark the old creative juices.
BTW You have a really nice entry yourself.

05 May 2006, 01:27 PM
Great piece. Love the lighting and the general atmosphere.
good luck!

05 May 2006, 03:36 PM (

well I got the grass in there for now.
I am still not happy with it, but at least it's rendering at the resolution I need.
So Now I can tweak it along with a dozen other things.

05 May 2006, 08:07 PM
Nice work! The scene is coming together really nicely. Looking forward to seeing it all come together in the final. Go go go. Cheers.

05 May 2006, 10:31 PM
Pretty cool !Great scaling and composition work, i love the colors and mood :buttrock:

05 May 2006, 11:07 PM
Truely amazing. It has been an real honor to watch you progress with this. I've learned a lot watching you work.

05 May 2006, 03:34 AM

Wow. :thumbsup: The grass may not be up to your impossible standards, but I'm jealous all the same.

The forest is haunted.
Hansel is a hog
Gretel walks all flaunted
While a homocidal hag hides in a log.

I'm calling the witch. May she eat your monitor before the deadline and stick your computer in the stove. :buttrock: :drool:

05 May 2006, 09:58 AM
looking great're not tempted to place those cute characters a bit closer to us?
I know I've said it before, but I just wonder if they're TOOO small.(they're so beautifully done, they deserve to be bigger!!)

05 May 2006, 02:44 AM
HA thanks guys and gal,
I almost have another update. Maybe later tonight I'll post it.
In the mean, time check out the Gretel turnaround.

Thanks again and I'll talk to you soon.

05 May 2006, 05:26 AM
Hey man, nice to see you keeping it so close to your concept (i really liked the concept) looking ready nice already, can't wait for hte final!

05 May 2006, 03:19 PM
Nice grass...and the view gets to the image a dark perspective...pretty good!:thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 11:56 PM
I am glad I went with the new composition. It has been much more fun to work on.
I have been tweaking stuff for a couple of hours. I think there have been enough changes now to justify an update. I'll do it when I get home from work.

05 May 2006, 03:33 AM (

Alright as promised. I am a little further along. I am still looking for things to add interest and clean things up.
3 days of subtle and not so subtle tweaks.

05 May 2006, 03:57 AM
looks beautiful Kory-awesome textures- one thing I noticed..that black thing under the right crows- is that the house? it's a tiny bit destracting from the crows

05 May 2006, 04:52 AM
Very nice pic with awesome ambiance and environnement, great work

05 May 2006, 05:45 AM

Good eye shakes. That is a rock that is masked out. The real one is not in there yet.

05 May 2006, 05:56 AM
The middle of the road is a tad too dark. I don't know if that rock is necessary unless its bent over more to the left. This would direct the eye to the kids and trees.

05 May 2006, 10:24 AM
I like the atmosphere you created there but I have 1 observation, that was told earlier, concerning the black part of the road ad the second one concerns the grass in the right side.

Good luck

05 May 2006, 04:32 PM
Thanks for the great suggestions and observations.
the ground has been bugging me for a while. I am in the process of re-rendering right now.
as for the grass. I just finished putting a new layer of it in there. I will have an update when I get some more new pieces in there.

Thanks for keeping me on my toes. It is really helping me make this the best illustration it can be.

05 May 2006, 02:40 AM
i've said it before but again, I really love your characters and style! comp and color scheme are awesome =) oh and thanks for the comment! (unfortunately my final demo reel for school is due a day before this contest ends, so i'm not going to be able to finish =(

05 May 2006, 05:36 PM
Hey whisper.
too bad about your lack of time. I know how that goes. I have started more of these than I have finished.
I have done some more work on this and I will put up what I hope will be my final image tonight. This week of TV finales has thrown off my schedule. I have no will power when it comes to mediocre TV.

05 May 2006, 07:00 AM (

well here is my first pass at the final.
I think it's done and I will stare at it for a while before I upload the real final.I may or may not make any changes.

05 May 2006, 07:15 AM
looking great :thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 07:18 AM
beautiful scene Kory,nice atmospheric effects,the characters look great & tell a story
nothing to crit..well done:thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 07:46 AM
Thanks anatoli and Stefan.
I have a few more hours to stew on things. I'll see how I feel tomorrow.

05 May 2006, 07:51 AM
awesome Kory! looks perfect, you ol perfectionist!

05 May 2006, 08:35 AM
Looks great. :thumbsup:

I love the raven.


05 May 2006, 03:17 PM
HA thanks,
People seem to really like those ravens/crows.
I was inpired by the crows from the short film "Badgered."
it was nominated for the best animated short film at this years Academy Awards.
It is agreat film, and not 3D.

05 May 2006, 03:53 PM
that's my favorite man, really great job

05 May 2006, 05:46 PM
Nice job man, I like the atmosphere :thumbsup: Good luck.

05 May 2006, 06:34 PM
Just one of my favorites!:thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 06:41 PM
No crits, I think you nailed it! :thumbsup: So different than when you started but just fantastic story telling. Congratulations.

05 May 2006, 06:49 PM

You may not change anything. :argh:

Though,, I'm looking for the witch, and the best I can do is the shadow on the left background tree, beneath the crow. 'Tis her, or has she curled up in the bark like a squirrel? Did Hansel already eat her?

Damn you. How I wish to be this exceptional. :bounce: :applause:

Hmmm. On second though, if you haven't added the hag, maybe there's time enough to add her hand or shoe or hat someplace. Or a broomstick. You can always resubmit finals, so . . .

In any event, gorgeous reimagination of a classic. :)

05 May 2006, 06:51 PM
This is looking awesome!! I love the feeling you have created!

Good job:thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 04:15 AM
Thanks everyone.
I try hard to tell astory with this stuff. I feel it makes for a better veiwing experience. It's fun trying to imagine what will happen next.
and Cori I think I just may sneak her in there

05 May 2006, 04:15 AM
Thanks everyone.
I try hard to tell a story with this stuff. I feel it makes for a better veiwing experience. It's fun trying to imagine what will happen next.
and Cori I think I just may sneak her in there

05 May 2006, 04:22 AM
Great concept, and amazing mood, like a lot, no crits, well done! :beer:

05 May 2006, 01:45 PM
Hey Kory,

Very nice job on this image:thumbsup: :bounce: :thumbsup: , it has a nice atmosphere and I like the characters standing right at the lampost , it is like a point of no return. Great job and good luck.

05 May 2006, 02:25 PM
Nice mood, I think i have no crits. Love the composition and the style.
Good luck :thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 03:20 PM
Ahh you finally made it, it looks very beautiful, one of my favorites for sure, it would be great if there was the whole movie like that. I esp like the lighting, it gives a cosy feeling. Oh and my favorite... crows :scream: btw, hurry up send the final

05 May 2006, 03:57 PM (

A long time ago in the deepest wood outside a small Bavarian village, two young children set off to find the answers about a curse set upon their family by an evil Witch generations before.