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02 February 2006, 09:56 AM
Martin Sen is entered in the "The Journey Begins Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Modeling: gryphon almost done (

02 February 2006, 10:08 AM
is great to see u here again, Versiden :thumbsup:


02 February 2006, 10:10 AM
I loved your mech frog, best of luck with this one! :)

02 February 2006, 10:18 AM
Wassup Martin! Welcome and good luck!:thumbsup:

02 February 2006, 10:20 AM
Hey Martin !

Have a lots of fun and best of luck !!

cheers ,


02 February 2006, 10:20 AM
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02 February 2006, 10:22 AM
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I join this team !
Martin for president !
Have fun !

02 February 2006, 10:38 AM
Great to see you here Martin, loved your previous work, i'm sure i'm gonna enjoy this one, good luck ! :thumbsup:

02 February 2006, 10:43 AM
Hi Martin :)

Best of luck with your entry, time to push them polys to their limits again :D

02 February 2006, 10:54 AM
go martian go

or maybe you might remember this

forward forward forward grab grab grab forword forward

02 February 2006, 11:38 AM
I hope you have no crashes(and more time) this time!

(I ve got great expectations for you...):thumbsup:

02 February 2006, 12:29 PM
Sorry, but I already think this will rock!
Good luck..

02 February 2006, 02:59 PM
Hi martin ! good luck and please prepare your time for rendering pleasssee ! heheh :bounce:

02 February 2006, 03:04 PM
Hi martin . good luck with the challenge :D definetely a thread to look after :D

02 February 2006, 03:49 PM
Hi Martin, Glad to see u in, have tons of fun and let's rock the place one more time! :beer:

02 February 2006, 04:43 PM
I've loved your works in the two last challenges and i wish you to do the same wonderfull image ;)

02 February 2006, 04:58 PM
Itīs a great new see you here again MArtin, good luck buddy

02 February 2006, 06:15 PM
man this is soo cool, cant wait to see your character designs for this one! my best wishes friend! :buttrock::buttrock::applause:

02 February 2006, 06:41 PM
Subscribed. Best of luck. :thumbsup:

02 February 2006, 06:47 PM
Good luck!

03 March 2006, 08:49 PM (


still playing around with ideas, and warming up. I think this has alot of potential ;p

I think I'll want to swop out the human/pixie characters for insects instead (don't want to model another human from scratch)

comments and suggestions very welcome ;p

(more ideas to come)

03 March 2006, 10:13 PM
Hi Martin,

really nice start... I almost can smell the idea :)

03 March 2006, 10:29 PM
pretty cool, reminds me of bondage fairies :twisted:

good luck

03 March 2006, 12:33 AM
Hey, nice concept! :thumbsup:
The 3d version will be awsome!

03 March 2006, 12:48 AM
Hi Martin

Good to see you back.
Nice sketch.

be carefull with the bugs, they might mess with v-ray just like the frog, he he..
Good luck!

03 March 2006, 07:17 AM
hehe, thanks.. I guess I still have a week for more concepts, hope to come with more soon, it's a hectic weekend.

@theuni, Alberto_Ro - thanks guys

@dokturpotfor - bondage? kinky ;p

@3d-empire - huh? not sure what u mean with the vray thing...

03 March 2006, 07:32 AM

nice concept


03 March 2006, 07:43 AM
Great concept martin. On a journey and lost :D cant wait to see your models :D

03 March 2006, 08:33 AM
The sketch is cool and the idea seems interesting ...

03 March 2006, 09:16 AM
@3d-empire - huh? not sure what u mean with the vray thing...

He he,. sorry, if i'm not making any sense.
-You had some render trouble with the frogleg, some v-ray bug...
hmm, never mind.
Good to see your back..

03 March 2006, 10:29 AM
Hi Martin , !

One more , you're going with a splendid idea !!
Can wait to see the realisation of that baby !

cheers ,


03 March 2006, 10:41 AM
Yes pretty nice idea man, dunno if you're going to stay with this but it's a cool start anyway, looking forward for developpement :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 11:46 AM (

a quick doodle, hope you can make out from the mess. It's a ship made of leaves and twigs ready to set out for a voyage. I'll refine the designs for the ship a bit more, but so far I'm liking this idea more. hmm, from the sketch the outer shell almost reminds of the Protoss carrier from Starcraft ... but it'll be more leafy

03 March 2006, 01:35 PM
I get it, but if I was you I d make something to show your CRAZY modelling skills!:thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 01:43 PM
Hey Martin,

Cool idea on your 2nd concept and nice sketch on your first concept. Look forward to your image coming together.

03 March 2006, 02:07 PM
Nice start :thumbsup:

Good luck to you :bounce:

03 March 2006, 02:10 PM
Really nice idea. Waiting to see more of this... :applause:

Keep up the good work!!

03 March 2006, 02:23 PM
yes! with your modleing skill , I'm sure , it will turn out very well! and I love protoss carrier! :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 02:42 PM
Hi Martin,

Nice to see you here. Your last entry with those frogs was one of my favorits. Hope u rock again! Best luck old friend!

let's rock!


03 March 2006, 02:48 PM
Hi Martin. Your frogs were really spectacular. Your image was one of my favs too. Good luck to you on this long journey.

03 March 2006, 08:59 PM
Very nice concept mate! Ship made of leaves... very poetic! I fancy those bugsy stuff from the times of BUGS LIFE the movie :love:

03 March 2006, 09:01 PM
I love your concept! It's so original. Good luck with developing your idea further.:)

03 March 2006, 09:30 PM
ahhh...nice idea Martin..very orignal..:cool:, waiting fo more updaes:bounce:

03 March 2006, 11:14 PM
Loved the frog. I'm anxious to see what you come up with. That second sketch is a little hard to make out but if I were your boss I would trust you. BUT, like it was mentioned earlier, please leave room for rendering. Please, please, please, please!!! :bounce:

03 March 2006, 03:30 AM
Looking good Martin. The ship looks intriguing; I can’t wait to see more.:)

03 March 2006, 03:33 AM
Hehe the old notebook paper eh? Good luck Martin I am interested in see what u do with this, I really like what u did in the Spectacular challenge!:thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 07:50 AM
nice sketch martin . very nice touch with the ship'smade of leaves :D

03 March 2006, 07:56 AM
Hi martin,

Some interesting concepts ,I'm sure you'll do a great job no matter which one you choose.

The leaf ship sound interesting.

Good luck.

03 March 2006, 08:37 AM
yeah martin~its great that u join.i dig ur last challenge.wish u luck mate:thumbsup:looking forward to ur next progress

03 March 2006, 11:15 AM
Hi, both concepts are nice:), look forward to more...

03 March 2006, 11:32 AM
Hey Martin! Cool concept! Good luck! :)

03 March 2006, 02:36 AM
Hey Martin, loved the frog you did for spectacular, even though I missed the thread! I'll be in on this one for sure..the leaf boat is an interesting idea-could be quite a visual treat.
look forward to more.

03 March 2006, 04:23 PM
beautiful concept, looks really dynamic, have fun and good luck ;)

03 March 2006, 06:30 PM (

still trying to find ideas.

third concept of elven hippogryph riders migrating by air to find a new home. In the background they're pulling their flying vessel to pick up speed.

03 March 2006, 07:05 PM
Love the composition and energy of this latest sketch! And theres something about flying ships that always makes me "Wooo!!!"

03 March 2006, 07:07 PM
This looks excellent so far, really like the angle and composition of this sketch too

03 March 2006, 07:45 PM
Your last sketch is really great martin ! The composition is very dynamic ! this should be a great picture !

03 March 2006, 08:18 PM
man this one is also nice!...i like this idea...with your quality this can really rock!..
and well i also liked the leaves ship idea. so what ever u choose i think will be great

03 March 2006, 09:45 PM
Concept #3 kicks the boot! :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 10:07 PM
Nice 3rd concept, it's my fav so far, what would you choose for environnement, landscape, only a sky ?

Looking forward :)

03 March 2006, 10:41 PM
looking forward to whatever you choose, but i like the other leaf ship better. i thought it looked a little more original


03 March 2006, 08:38 AM
Nice sketch ... again :D

03 March 2006, 10:08 AM
I would say go with the third one. It seems more active and is more interesting to the eye. :D

03 March 2006, 12:10 PM
I love this Elven theme you've got going, you're comming up with some great ideas. Don't want to suggest anything, jsut want to see what you come up with... good luck :)

03 March 2006, 12:39 PM
argh.. lol, im pulling out my feathers ;p

I've searched everywhere, but can't find a method of rendering realistic looking feathers... sometimes I hate the technical aspect of 3d!

tried the pluck script, but it's tedious...

03 March 2006, 12:44 PM
Damn... I'm late here Martin... but at time for the best sketch... this latest one is really the better... really brillant... receive all my wishes for your creation my friend... and GOOooooo :bounce:

03 March 2006, 08:36 PM
nice new concept..I think that's my favourite..good luck with the feathers! bitmap/ alphas wouldn't be a copout.

03 March 2006, 11:38 PM
hello man...x
i did a little research and find som threads on the thopic...i hope they work for u: (

03 March 2006, 11:40 PM
also this one:

check out the lidragon post.:thumbsup:

Oh noooo! seems like the file isnt there no was a n interesting zip file...maybe u can ask Him to upload again..:shrug:

03 March 2006, 11:55 PM
Yay...U go on latest concept?...this is veeery has ..feathers in... :argh: ..a lot... :bounce:

Cool concept... :bounce:

03 March 2006, 12:42 AM
the last sketch is very nice, but it might say action more than a journey beginning,.
but what the ****, as long as it looks briliant.
Feathers will be a nightmare.
Hamid made a nice bird in the last challange, maybe some ideas in his spectacular thread..

03 March 2006, 09:05 AM
awesome ;p

thanks rattlesnake! a few of those links I didn't find.. good read. I think at this stage I'll go for the 3rd concept. Things are a bit mad over here preparing for volleyball tournament and training, so if I spend another week on concept I'm screwed.

Hamid's thread is great, tho he's using maya so the script he used won't work for me.. interesting non the less.

03 March 2006, 11:16 AM
Hi martin. I didn't saw you were on this challenge. Glad to see you here. I really like your last picture. Your concept seems good.
Good luck.

03 March 2006, 11:46 PM
Hello Martin!! :wavey:

Good new that you're on this challenge too, i love your last entry for Spectacular, was my favorite, and i can't wait to see what you'll do in this one!! :bounce:

Like the first and third concept, perhaps a little more the third, but the compo disturb me, i think it's not the final.
Keep posting!!!

Have fun and good luck for challenge!! :beer:

03 March 2006, 06:51 AM
Great drawings, all cocept is great, my favorite must be nr 3. i think ??
see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 05:41 PM (

Time to get the ball rolling - started on the head. it looks kinda weird since it's featherless... a lot of trial and error over the next few days/weeks to get it right


03 March 2006, 05:50 PM
Nice modeling on that brid!

Keep it up!

03 March 2006, 08:24 PM (

modelled the talons...

crits welcome

03 March 2006, 09:09 PM
Hey Martin!
love the modeling so far... can't wait for more.. ;)

03 March 2006, 02:46 AM
nice model as always man ! can't wait to see the whole body!

03 March 2006, 10:17 PM
very nice modelling so far Martin..look forward to more.

03 March 2006, 07:58 AM
hmm, I feel like going back to the first concept now...

03 March 2006, 08:06 AM
hi ...youre doing a great job on the modeling here, great details..:buttrock:no crits on my side:arteest:

03 March 2006, 08:23 AM
Nice begining :)

03 March 2006, 01:43 PM
Your idea is laid out in balanced compostion, and you have a lot of action. goodluck! :applause:

03 March 2006, 05:31 PM
Hi martin nice models...i finally found you, i was looking for you, now i have you jajajajajaja:twisted:

03 March 2006, 10:26 AM
Hey Martin !

stunning character as always man !
can't wait for the whole body !

cheers ,


03 March 2006, 10:50 AM
The third concept looks great.Nice modelling on the bird.

03 March 2006, 08:47 AM
Hi MArtin, hey found you, finally! Good luck on this new challenge, I expect some fire on your pages, it's a great start already:thumbsup: . Subscribing for the rest to come. Have great fun!

See ya!

03 March 2006, 10:12 AM
Hey nice looking bird, looks a perfect start, nothing to crit :)

03 March 2006, 11:16 AM
heya, thx for the input guys

haven't had anytime to work on the challenge, hope to get back to it soon and I'll post some updates


03 March 2006, 11:47 AM
concepts are looking very good to me. well, i like the bird one. you should work on this. it is more dynamic... ;)

03 March 2006, 01:52 PM
I have to agree with the other friends here...very clean mesh . I too can't wait to see this finished. :)

03 March 2006, 07:42 PM (

update on the arms, don't want to go too detailed on the shoulders and upper arm as it's going to covered in feathers.

more updates to come...

03 March 2006, 09:01 PM
Hey, Martin! Modeling looks very nice, as always! Super clear modeling! Cant wait to see it textured! :)

03 March 2006, 08:42 AM
I must agree... clear and clean :thumbsup: ...

03 March 2006, 09:22 AM
I third the motion.

03 March 2006, 06:54 PM
hey man nice model and very scary claws!:eek:

03 March 2006, 10:37 AM
great sketch martin and the modelling looks awesome :D

03 March 2006, 07:27 PM
man u must be one of the best modellers around,..really like the precise modeling u do...we need :


03 March 2006, 09:33 PM (

haven't been very good with updates lately, been a bit busy ;(

I've done the legs and torso, not final yet and alot to be tweaked. Still working on the head and need to add ears, then finally the wings.

comments and crits welcome

03 March 2006, 10:03 PM
That looks pretty interesting.
You've got a good and smooth transition between the different species that looks very convincing.
Looks cool.

03 March 2006, 10:49 PM
Wow! it looks like the "imposible creatures" game...good work!:thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 12:37 AM
Wow i like so much, the sketch going to be a nice final imagine seeing what you have done in past challenges...Have fun!

03 March 2006, 01:02 AM
Nice griffin. I really like the proportions you have there, much better than many others I've seen.

03 March 2006, 01:44 AM
nice update! very nicely modelled, and great bizzare character.

03 March 2006, 08:14 AM
Superb modeling sofar Martin! I like it a lot! Good luck with the rest, will be back!:thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 05:19 PM
Very nice and awesome model! great work:thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 05:39 PM
have no crits friend..the modeling is pefect so far:applause:

03 March 2006, 10:18 AM (

added the ears and tweaked the head shape, I think it looks better than before ;p

Started on the wings, feathers to come

03 March 2006, 10:51 AM
The modeling is really good :)

03 March 2006, 10:51 AM
Very nice modeling, nothing to crit man, keep it up :)

03 March 2006, 07:01 PM
more more more!! :thumbsup::bounce:

03 March 2006, 07:08 PM
I enjoy watching you model. Keep going! :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 08:56 PM
I think he could use some muscle definition in 'wing shoulder' area (heh don't know the proper anathomical name ;) ), and lower neck - Since the wings are supposed to be able to lift the whole creature, it should be muscled quite well. I like the way you did the rest of the body.

03 March 2006, 10:35 PM
thanks for the feedback guys

azazel - valid points, thanks. I'm still thinking if it's worth adding the detail for the neck and wing area if it's covered in down/contour feathers, I'll see how it goes but I'll probably add it ;p

03 March 2006, 10:37 PM (

progress on the feather layout so far, I'm using a planes approach for the wing feathers, the rest of the body I'll play around with feather geometry hair.

03 March 2006, 10:52 PM
Is going to be every time better...Keep on in this way:bowdown:

03 March 2006, 01:10 AM
Hey nice creature and vry good job with the feathers!:thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 08:13 AM
The wings are promising. Impatient to see more.

03 March 2006, 09:10 AM
nice creature !
looking for great work here.
good luck man... .. .

03 March 2006, 11:55 AM
very good work :) and good idea ! nice modeling too :)

03 March 2006, 01:17 PM
Very cool creature:thumbsup:

Nice modeling,.
good luck with the feathers!

03 March 2006, 01:31 PM
huge amount of work here with the feathers... your wings will look grate shaded, best wishes

03 March 2006, 01:42 PM
thanks guys, appreciate the encouragement, will post an update hopefully tonight

03 March 2006, 01:45 PM
Hey, Martin! Your creature looks very cool! Waiting for updates! :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 01:45 PM
Coming along nicely! :) You have a lot of work for you with them feathers. Good luck.

03 March 2006, 08:09 PM (


03 March 2006, 08:12 PM (

I think i'm done with the main mesh. I'll be concentrating more on the feathers this week and getting it right.

comments / improvements welcome ;p

03 March 2006, 06:45 AM
Wow man, very nice modeling! Your character is looking great and the feathers are awesome!.

Keep it up man:thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 06:49 AM
nice work on the feathers..looks like a tedious job!!

03 March 2006, 08:13 AM
That comes to be really impressive Martin... the design of this pet is vzery original... nice work and very clean modeling :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 08:17 AM
Dig the feathers man, nice job. :)

03 March 2006, 08:56 AM
Very nice looking griffen dude.Keep it up.

03 March 2006, 09:13 AM
Wow ! splendid progress on that griffen !

I really dig your so clean and accurate modeling !
Can't wait for more !

cheers ,


03 March 2006, 09:21 AM
Great job dude.
It looks awesome... I like the model itself as much as the design.
the muscle is very clean and accurate. I'll check u out again.

03 March 2006, 10:18 AM
Neat :) But i have one more crit - the wing's forearm/elbow part looks very thin and fragile, and bit too short. Or maybe it just sticks out due to color variation of feathers and the body, as the silhouette looks about right.

03 March 2006, 10:27 AM
thx for the feedback everyone ;p

@azazel - heya, the wing mesh actually extends beyond the feather region with the feathers over it, and as you said, the colour contrast makes it look thinner. With all the feathers/hair in place it should look smoother (in theory, hehhe)

03 March 2006, 11:08 AM
The gryphon is fantastic. Has to be one of the best I've ever seen, and it's not textured, yet! Excellent work.

03 March 2006, 11:38 AM
Yup...sweet stuff as always....:bounce:

03 March 2006, 11:05 PM
Jeah Martin It's really great! Maybe the pose is "rigid", but the character's proportions are smooth and well thought. :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 11:30 PM
Very good work Martin!

The feathers worked out very nicely.
Did you map them before all the copying around?

03 March 2006, 07:15 AM
y0y0, thx guys

to answer some questions -

@Tremoside - it's not rigged yet ;p

@dannyfalch - no maps applied to the feathers yet, just shaped planes

03 March 2006, 07:42 AM
@dannyfalch - no maps applied to the feathers yet, just shaped planes

Ok,. it will take som map/texture work to get the wings done then, if no uvw was applied before copying,.
Good luck.

03 March 2006, 12:14 PM
Very impresive as always Martin... Your modelling (and texturing) skills never ceaze to amaze me...:drool:

03 March 2006, 01:58 PM
Hey, Martin! Cool creature! I like your attention to clear modeling! :thumbsup:

03 March 2006, 03:12 PM
Hey Martin,

I am really glad that you posted in my thread, otherwise I would have missed this!
Really nice and clean modeling. Hope you will have a good hand at texturing (escecially the feathers!)
Keep it up!

03 March 2006, 06:39 PM
great result so far man..feathers are looking cool from here,:applause::bowdown:

03 March 2006, 08:25 PM
great work here!
looking forward to see more... .. .

04 April 2006, 02:50 PM
I like your idea :) and nice modelling, i hope more update :)

04 April 2006, 11:29 PM
Welll done Martin, the modeling is really good, specially the head and muscle, you've done a great job, i'm following to see more... update!!! :beer:

04 April 2006, 01:57 PM
great model... could you show us a screensaver for the IK-wings setup?...

04 April 2006, 02:59 PM
This is the most beautiful creature. I'm not gonna crit on anything, that would only imply that I know more than you...which I clearly don't. I can't wait to see all the elements together and not to mention, the amazing texture on that creature...Griffin? - I'm sure you won't dissapoint.

04 April 2006, 08:23 PM
Hey's been a while since you updated. We want to see more! :D

04 April 2006, 07:00 AM
howsit guys

sorry for not updating in 3 weeks, alot has been going outside of 3d work and I haven't been able to really get this project going smoothly.

It seems that I probably won't be able to finish, which is a real shame and I hate not finishing what I start. Over the next month I'll be learning XSI to prepare for a new career in animation.

till then guys, I'll be watching on from the sidelines - goodluck!

05 May 2006, 03:12 PM
great modelling, man!

congrats, keep it up

05 May 2006, 03:14 PM
Sorry we won't see this finish, it was a great piece. I love that griffin. Best of luck to you in your new endevour. :thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 08:47 PM
sorry to hear that, but life happens! maybe next one eh? now you can enjoy watching us panic!

05 May 2006, 11:33 PM
Sorry to see that u can't finish :cry: , but i wish you good luck in your new animation career, and waiting to see some of your new stuff!! :thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 09:07 AM
howsit guys

sorry for not updating in 3 weeks, alot has been going outside of 3d work and I haven't been able to really get this project going smoothly.

It seems that I probably won't be able to finish, which is a real shame and I hate not finishing what I start. Over the next month I'll be learning XSI to prepare for a new career in animation.

till then guys, I'll be watching on from the sidelines - goodluck!

oh man suddenly i feel a bit sad:sad:, i was expecting to see an other great master piece on this one, but well im happy to see youre learning some new weapons, that means that ull be back stronger to kick some butts!:applause:, my best wishes on your projects bro!:)

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